StarStriker

Heres an interesting question/thought....once an independent sikh raj/country is established, wat is the national flag? Also from the various kindly posted links, wat would u guys say, was THE OFFICIAL flag of sikh empire?

This is my personal fave.

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sikh_flag.jpg

27 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

why surprised ...if they can take originally literally BLACK madonna and make her gori with blue eyes and reddish blond hair we're small potatoes . 

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/09/19/10-images-of-europeans-praying-to-black-madonna-and-black-jesus/2/

that is why I respect the east ortodox more as they kept true to the actual message not like RC pagan hybrid ...what do you think New Age is ..pagan hindu milgoba

honestly seeing Guru Arjun Dev ji with a hanky on his Joorda makes me angry and sick to the stomach at the same time.

im not suprised, im just saying, its sickening. I was gona mention how the goreh have done same to african/egyptian gods/prophets.

18 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

top one is definitely ripoff of western madonna iconography(babylonian ) including the hand position and fingers . bottom one is a 3HO stylee picture they have similar for Guru Ram Das ji and Guru Nanak Dev ji you can tell they look like white caucasians rather than Indians.

sickening isnt it?

25 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

 

This one has been discussed before. 

It is VERY unlikely to be a flag from Ranjit Singh's time. The very pristine condition of it is a give away, plus we have loads of standards that have survived from that time in various locations in the UK - none of them look like this. 

Yea indeed, if true 100% im not suprised, as i stated above, its prolly edited by em.

1 hour ago, Singh559 said:

Lol you're that Sikh Talk took guy from Instagram?

Erm no, but i did crop those 2 pics frm his instagram. I duno if ur new to this forum, but any1 can tell u im not him. I dont mind him tho, im subscribed to his youtube channel for a year or so now, n i like his views on colonisation of apnay and black ppl etc. The rest of his stuff havnt really paid attention to. Genie in another thread says hes a communist/marxist.... im clearly not that for cryin out loud. 

I wouldnt b suprised if the khanda is a cleverly crafted symbol by the goreh to resemble freemason/illuminati symbolism, which they have cleverly done everywhere in the world. Dally on another thread pointed out how there r freemason/illuminati symbols on the floor at harmandir sahib on the tiled parkarma, which was shown on a youtube video. But there is a flag which brits captured frm anglo sikh wars, which shows a resemblence to modern day khanda. But for all we know brits cudda edited it.

But as we all know, this 1 below is the original nishan sahib, which streches back to 6th gurus time.

But 1 thing i do know is, we have got to make some serious efforts to retun the sikh panth/way of life back to wat it was, prior to these dirty brits comin in and posioning our panth with their editing.

Unfortunatly, there r some idiotic sikhs (esp freshy sikhs, who still romanticise over gora rule), who have colonised brains. These latest pics r an effing disgrace! Im not sure if these r 3ho or colonised brainwashed panjabis, either way, assi bachke raina chaiyda!

Mata gujari as some sort of "virgin" mary, or guru ramdas ji lookin pagri walah joseph holdin guru arjan dev ji as some sort of wannabe lil jesus, shocking!

34 minutes ago, genie said:

No point I heard he blocks people who challenge him on some of his daft opinions.

Better to have other Sikhs to have a look at his viewpoints on here where we can discuss openly without his censorship

Look at that other mug..https://www.instagram.com/inquilab_channel/.

I remember this mug frm few bhangra videos as a bhangra dancer. This guy i remember started makin videos on youtube a while back, on panjab/sabyachar. I seem to remember he turns his nose up and was critical of pro-khalistanis/khalistan comments on his channel...yet look at wat he has written behind him in his videos....."freedom for palestine"....u cudnt make it up, honestly! Typical maha-fuddhus, want freedom for everybody else, but their own ppl! Though i could be wrong, he maybe a pro-khalistani, who knows.

He describes himself as a socialist, no doubt he arse-licks bhagat singh. Shame he shud read how bhagat singh became a sikh again and wanted to take amrit.

Tbh, when i was younger, i made a mission in my mind, that i wud not only fully read/understand the zafarnama, but id learn farsi/persian to read it, as opposed to a simplified english translation. Trouble is though, the farsi/persian spoken in modern day iran is diluted and is not pure farsi. Infact, they say, that dari (east persian), which is spoken in afganistan, is the purest form of the old farsi left, to the point, afghans mock iranians for ditching it for their modern day rubbish. I remember watchin a documentary on iran presented by rageh omar, n they were using french phrases, like 'merci beaucoup' and 'bonjour', which i thought was ridiculous.

So it looks as though, if there is gonna be sum sort of persian/farsi revival, then it will have to come from our fellow afghan sikh brothers/sisters. 

1 minute ago, kcmidlands said:

I completely agree, like i said, he's an entertainer, where some people may have a moral conscious and say they won't listen to his music because of his beliefs or lifestyle they are twice as many that will overlook it. I don't know too much about who he believes in, to be honest there are plenty of singer's who probably have dubious beliefs, that's their burden to bear, at the end of the day we need to look at what positive change we can make everyday in our lives, he's released a song and will make money from it, we can debate or argue all we want but he's still cashing his pay cheque.

 

No, but unfortunately that's the world we live in.

true!

1 minute ago, Balkaar said:

Can't judge a father by the crimes of his son. Not saying Gurdas Mann is an angel but these sorts of comparisons have no place in a rational discussion.

It would be like judging Guru Ram Das for the actions of Prithi Chand. 

My friend, again, u r missing the irony of this sextape and its timing. In the new song panjab, gurdas maan asks for respect of women in panjab and how its goin downhill.....then his own son films himself sh@gging sum girl! 

Also u say u cant judge the father coz of sons actions.....u do realise gurrickk, gurdas' son, helped write the song/direct the video!

Hun duss!

5 minutes ago, kcmidlands said:

He's an entertainer, if anyone's looking for anything deeper they're barking up the wrong tree, i like his music (well, sometimes), his new song is reflective of the climate in Punjab, the timing of the release of it (in the middle of the elections) is questionable but sometimes, like already mentioned, we need to focus on the message, and that is on point in my opinion, i'm sure is someone else sang it someone would probably have some issue as well, there aren't many Punjabi entertainers who can stand up and say they've got a "clean sheet".

Nobody is askin for ppl to have a 100% clean character, but its the 2faced ness of it all thats the irony! He talks about how nasheh (smoking/drinking etc) is killing panjab....wat duz that dirty dera baba laddi shah do then, to whom gurdas prays to? Smoke and drinks and swears in panjabi on stage infront of kids, while standing completely nanga! Thats like me doing an advert on tv for famous grouse whiskey/vodka, and then releasing a song talking bowt how panjab is drowning under alcohol influence.

3 minutes ago, kcmidlands said:

As far as his son's sextape, there's plenty of them going about, most of them being from the mp's that are standing for election in India like Sher Singh Ghubaya.

Oh ok that makes it fine then...

Well it seems gurdas' lachhan/behaviour has caught up with him now....his sons sextape is spreading all over internet/whatsapp. Nice to know, wen it comes to bein a k@njar, like father, like son!

5 hours ago, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

Lets all just hope by "certain Sikhs" you are referring to those from urban city Punjab and Delhi who not only regularly set their daughter in laws on fire but also marry and have children with their first cousins.   If that's not who you meant by "certain Sikhs", lets all just be extremely worried and afraid that your deeply held and well-known prejudice against a "certain" community is such that makes you see incest as not too bad a thing. Not a bad thing at all.

y dont u just create an account rather than comin back as a guest? I thought u sed u were never to come back on here/or u had written ur last goodbye etc. Geezer just make an account man, im sure i aint only who has missed ur p.o.v on topics.

11 hours ago, Guest London jwan said:

 Doesn't mean they all get along, but they are not smashing up their own mosques

.....tell me ur kidding right?

17 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

not ironic but telling ...he is not humdard of sikhs , just another leech of the kaum's youths' blood

Very true. Heres a great article written by naujawani.com bloggers.

https://naujawani.com/blog/something-is-missing-from-gurdas-maans-punjab

22 minutes ago, Hammertime007 said:

The song would have suited sukshinder shinda, a pretty clean living guy who knows what alcohol can do,  due to what happened with his elder brother. He has also done songs like this before. Also raj kakarra the most known for dharmic geet not the most known singer.

Yea 100% singh, shinda is well behaved individual! I remember a video, where 1 of his band members, kaka mohanwalia,who took amrit in recent yrs, sed while all misbehaved on tour, shinda was the clean bandha! 

Also yes, raj kakkra is a brilliant lyricists and is blatant khalistani, without sayin out loud, and is a true sikh! Just like, he makes songs/films on subjects, he knows will get banned/financial loss, but does them bcoz he genuinely cares.

34 minutes ago, Hammertime007 said:

Your likely to be right in what your sayin, but the song or video is not about him. Look at the song and video,  what it highlights,  and not at Gurdass Mann. As for booze songs his one of the least.  Jazzy b sings alot about booze,  kuri,  and caste,  no one called him hypocritical when he contributed a song towards saada haq movie. 

How can u compare jazzy b with gurdas khan? Say watever u want bowt some of jazzys haircuts/tattoos/songs etc, but jazzy is 1st n foremost wen it comes to makin songs bowt sikhi and sikhs/shaheeds. When it came to sadda haq movie, jazzy stood up n made the song for it when nobody wud touch it. Jazzy promoted n pushed out the rajoana situation and made viral vids supportin his release.

Also these 2 artists r not comparible, as jazzy doesnt pray at the feet of some foul mouthed, naked, smokin druggy like laddi shah, nor does he invite killers of the panth (kp gill) to his album/movie launch parties. Funny isnt it how this kuttha fake gurdas releases this video, AFTER elections of panjab and not prior. We all appreciate gurdas' contribution to our language/sabyachar, makin ucha dar babeh nanak da, various panjab songs, but hes undone A LOT of that with his last decade of gandh/anti-sikhi acts. He is BLATANTLY bein payed by indian govt to do this. I saw a post on ravi singhs (khalsa aid) fb page, where sum1 wrote that ajmer singh randhawa wrote a book explaining how gurdas khan/sardool sikander were payed by kp gill in 90s to deliberatly write gandeh songs to corrupt youth of panjab. 

This song/video itself is fantastic no doubt, but his past/present actions r unforgivable! The cheek for him to complain bowt drugs/drink in panjab, wen he prays/promotes laddi shah who does EXACTLY THAT is just laughable!

I find it ironic how he takes a young bhagat singh forward into time n doesnt show him partition or even the 80/90s....wonder y eh?!

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Okay, watching the video, he isn't from Tigerstyle. No Scottish accent. 

na dally, thats bhai shamsher singh ,from NSYF (national sikh youth fed). Hes an articulate brother, who has had a lot of discussions with that melt nihal on bbc about 84. He and the NSYF have some good intellectual Q&A's on sikh freedom. I know for a fact u wud love his thoughts on sikhs who brown-nose or have been colonised into wat we r 2day. This was a good discussion from a while back.

https://www.youtube.com/user/theNSYF

i saw this video the other day, 1st thing thatcame into my mind was....oh gawd not another eco-warrior!

......where exactly did i even insinuate these other groups were friend of sikhs? Read my post again u mug. Did u even watch the videos i asked u to watch? I specifically mentioned akali dal bcoz theyre the ruling party for past decade and r directly responsible for the drugs problem.

4 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the drug racket in punjab is by indian govt itself , instead of smuggling from pakistan as is often said ! 

They won't win ! Khalsa has seen worse days than these. Just look at our history of 18th century. You will get goosebumps. Just before sikhs got raj , they were tortured and hunted like animals. Forests and deserts and mountain tops were only refuge. At a time, mughals thought they had finished us, but it doesn't work that way lol.

They might seem to be winning. However waheguru watches.

Look up shashi kant on youtube, he has told every1 in clear panjabi/hindi/english that the drugs r bein distributed by panjab govt (badal/majithia)! Hes an ex panjab police dgp, so he knows all the secrets from barnalas days, to beanta, to captain to scummy badals. 

The CIA did same thing to black ppl frm the 70s-90s. 

Heres an old thread on this topic, look out for my post and watch the videos. Thank god tho, ppl of panjab r finally wakin up n refusin to have their votes bought by crates of alcohol which is a badal speciality.

1 hour ago, buddasingh said:

The story doesn’t move me either. Don’t now the guy and don’t care for bhangra much. Do appreciate most genuine artists. Didn’t read far enough into the story to see exactly on what basis he would be referred to as a fool. But none of that pushed me to post.  

 

However… Sstriker? Dude what’s up with suggesting some stranger, the woman in the picture, is a prostitute? Not cool anywhere. Very not cool on a sikh forum.

 

All I recall is you’ve been around forever with I think some decent perspectives. Bro consider retracting that.

fair enuff, u didnt like my post n were offended. So ive removed the post since u asked nicely.

On 31/01/2017 at 9:48 PM, dallysingh101 said:

 

Great news.....

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Hes a scumbag h@rami...hes an anti-dasam granth fuddhuu, who has been allowed too much air time on tv/panjab radio. Hopefully this will disgrace/tarnish his name, n force him into hiding. Cant stand his voice/speaking style either.