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With reference to all information posted. I disagree that Tarlochan Das is anti Sikh, you may have seen his spiritual discourses on channel 808 Aastha. If from watching this you can say he is saying bad about the Sikh faith then I find that hard to believe. See for yourselves. in today’s society when we see individuals not following a main stream trend then they are regarded as bad, come on guys I think we are all wise enough to let people get on with what they believe in. Mr Singh Cllr has made these comments without any insight into what Tarlochan Das is saying or doing, I welcome Cllr Singh to watch the satsangs of Tarlochan Das and then make a judgement. When Cllr Singh needs votes it doesn’t matter who’s door he knocks whether they are Sikh/ Radhaswami/ Darshan Dassi/ Nirankari or Hindu. In a democratic society why is it not possible for all to live in harmony? I have contacted the PR Department within Sachkhand Nanak Dham to ask them what there response is on the story, they responded in a polite manner quote "we are not going to make any reference on false information that Karen Burke has stated in this article, as fellow believers in God we ask in a humble manner for all individuals who are providing individuals like Karen Burke with inaccurate and false information to not do this as we all have one fear, this fear is of God. Truth can only be understood when one is humble to the belief in God regardless of caste, creed, religion, colour, and race". I personally ask for individuals not to post such comments, when you have nothing Good to say then please do not say anything at all. Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala In the name of the Almighty, Do something good for someone else

Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala I think your point is valid; this discussion should not take place on a Sikh site as we are not here to discriminate or attack any individual’s beliefs. If i can urge members who follow Darshan Das Ji to set up an independent message board for this discussion to continue. If any persons have said anything to offend your faith then i apologies on their behalf. I pray as God's beloveds that we all are content in our belief and have the strength and passion to recite and believe in his Holy Name. "Oh Lord Shower The World With Peace" Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala

Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala Darshan Das himself stated on many, many occasions not to refer to him with any status e.g. as a Sant/ Guru. Firstly i would like to point out to all that are apart of this discussion that disrespecting others for whatever belief they follow, who are we to judge whether something is right or wrong only the almighty God can identify. Many of us are aware of how globally fundamental religious groups have broken down basic respect for all God’s creation. Think back to Sept 11th after this many Sikhs were targeted because of their appearance (the beard and the turban)…. Why because Muslim’s have beards and they also wear a turban. Just because the identity was similar did it mean the actions of these men would be the same?? – No it all came down to JUDGEMENT……. I am not highly aware of many things the holy Gurus in Sikhism had done but I am aware they had struggles throughout the line of Guru Jee’s, some were captured, some were attached – my point is that others thought they knew better and tried to bring these Holy Saints down – but the truth overcame all of this and these Holy Gurus who fought these battles are our living proof that man has no judgement over a believer in God. If an individual embraces in SadhSangat then this individual becomes united with All. Without Sangat their, would be no Gurus not Saint’s, no Prophets, no Devi/Devte. Humanity has broken the link of uniting with Sangat the home of where a Guru resides. Das Dharam was created by Darshan Das Ji as a centre for people who wanted to mix with all walks of life under one umbrella this umbrella is of Humanity – Thus using the holy word from the Guru Granth Sahib Ji “Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala” “In the Name of the Almighty Do Something Good For Somebody Else In Your Life”. Seva – seva can only be attained when one acts doing a selfless deed, Das Dharam is a centre where Seva & Sadhsangat are held in the highest esteem. Quote singh_comradz”and what is a joke is that his puppet of a son is now going on the same level, maharaz tarlochan das or whatever your call him. hey maybe i'll put a white dastaar and chola on, you gonna start worshipping me..” I think your source of facts is incorrect Tarlochan Darshan Das Ji has not placed himself on any level but only to do a service (Seva), there is not just one way of doing seva e.g. serving Langar, cleaning our temples/ churches, dropping an old lady home so she doesn’t have to catch a bus at night (you get my point)/ singing hymns etc. These are all forms of seva, Tarlochan Darshan Das Ji is doing a seva of talking about Saint’s and God this is regarded as seva that any individual can do, but it is only classed as a seva when there is SadhSangat. As I have stated before Judgement is only for the Almighty to decide. From the teachings of my Guru I have learnt to respect all of Gods creation. If I go past a Hindu/ Sikh/ Christian/ Muslim/ Buddhist temple I will bow my head with respect. If many of you follow politics the thing Tony Blair has Started is that the policy of RESPECT. This I personally think is not for the youth but for all to have a think about? So what Darshan Das Ji started Das Dharam – how many billions of people live in this world and very few individuals discriminate someone for their belief – where is the peaceful humanitarian democracy? – we have governments who try to take control, why as God beloveds and believers do we say ones belief is wrong because they don’t follow what you do? Also Darshan Das/ Tarlochan Das/ Ds Dharam have never slandered the Holy Guru’s of Sikhism or any other Holy saints or Holy Prophets. Quote singh_comradz kUkr kUVu kmweIAY gur inMdw pcY pcwnu ] kookar koorr kamaaeeai gur ni(n)dhaa pachai pachaan || Those who practice falsehood are dogs; those who slander the Guru shall burn in their own fire. Again the Holy Almighty will judge this – if you believe that Darshan Das was as such – you yourself are practicing a false hood of hatred to a believer of God. Another small point that I was taught at Infant age was “if I have nothing good to say about anyone, don’t say anything at all” I think it’s probably the best advice I was given. If we can not do or say any Good then why say and do anything Bad. Apologies if I have said anything to offend anyone. I believe that God is my Guru and is my only guide I can not discuss fact or fiction for people who are not willing to put negativity aside. God Bless all With Love and Peace – if not world peace then peace within ones soul. Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala