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3 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

No i was calling the Sikh KAUM spinless...for the constant the islamic attacks against Sikhs whilst they're sanitizing mosques or holding iftar dinners in Gurudwara whilst we cant take care of our own kaum and endless porblems we'd need sort out.  Why'd call a ill 105 Sikh grandfather spineless...Jeez

Maybe the family of Grandfather put him there should have to answers? Are they neglecting him did they put him into islamic care home ....or does he even have anyone?

 

Doesn't the 105 year old fall into the Sikh kaum?  Also this is an incident that took place in a isolated location with no other Sikhs present.  Why would you blame the Sikh kaum for something they only became aware of after it happened and through a video.  The problem with you hot headed Sikhs is, not that you are hot headed, but you dont know how to direct the anger.  Your message should have read, what a spineless muslim.  Because this is the person who is oppressing another.  

Do you know what the older generation is blamed for in the sikh community?  They emotionally blackmailed the youth to react out of anger and frustration.   They got teens and the youth into trouble with the law and destroyed their lives.  While these elders sat back and enjoyed the donations coming in from their parents.  Told the parents we are helping to get your children out of jail and get the charges dropped.  But they weren't doing anything to help the youth.  Your comment is no different.  Blame the Sikh kaum for something they could not prevent from happening.  If you want Sikhs to do something.  Put your own neck on the line first.

1 hour ago, Kau89r8 said:

Thats not his grandson. He's pen tending to be grandson. Listen to his voice... he has Caribbean accent! He's either carertaker, nurse, social health care worker or one of the Dawah men going around converting ppl..this is UK...

Did you have the right to attack a 105 year old man for doing nothing?  What you did is called nindiya.  

1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

They are not attacking him but what muslims are doing.

 

She wrote, "we are a spineless kaum."   Which means she was attacking the 105 year old man.  Also grouping every sikh as to be spineless because what a muslim did.  

10 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

Oh yes...the attack on Gurudwaras, ISIS attack, the grooming Sikh girls, the forced conversions, the history of Sikh vs Mughals

But lets stop making mountains out flat lands 

That list has nothing to do with one very old grandpa repeating something he does not fully understand. 

The old sikh man did nothing wrong.  If you wanted to accuse someone of being wrong.  You should have highlighted the fact a muslim grandson is manipulating his grandfather.   Instead you blame the grandfather by calling him spineless.   

Your issue is with the grandson and say nothing about him being wrong.  But you blame an old man. What does that say about you?

16 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

We are a spineless kaum!!! 

Hes 105 years old!!!! He doesn't understand what the muslim family member is saying as you can tell from his voice.  The grandfather probably thinks it's one of those funny movies kids make.  

The true spineless person is the muslim trying to manipulate a old man into islam.  

A rational human being would see a poor old man repeating words he doesn't understand and doesn't care for, but hes his grandson before him and goes along with it.  

Stop making mountains out of flat lands.

The way to stop these mislead committee members and granthi is to hit their personal bank accounts.  That's if they did this on purpose.  If they admit to their mistake let it be a warning.  Most of these head committee members own a business.   Sikhs need to develop an institution that is powered and run for the fact of accumulating money and run by lawyers.  Soon as these ill willed committee members want to go against Gurmat.  Send the lawyers in to make court cases that will get these members caught up in legal battles for years to come.  Bleed their bank accounts.  Like good crooks they will use the Gurdwara donations for their legal battles and this will further expose them as the sangat will be made well aware how their hard earned donations are being wasted on lawyers and court cases.  

In today's western world,  this is the way forward. 

Sikhs first

4 hours ago, Singh375 said:

I hope this isn’t the start of another argument 

I hope you actually answer the questions rather than running away.  I haven't even asked you difficult questions yet.  

29 minutes ago, Singh375 said:

You’ll find things on gupt section about naam simran which is way beyond the thinking of average people. Sangat with avastha wrote that stuff!

If you want to correct someone do it by touching their feet, not slapping their face.

May Guru Ji give us all nimrtha and pyar for each other

Make another thread and clarify what you are talking about.  Be a man rather than act like a woman by making accusations and than not say directly what it is.  

https://www.sikh24.com/2014/09/11/giani-thakur-singh-patiala-acknowledges-accusations-denies-molestation-charges/#.XsWzfmkTGdM

51 minutes ago, Singh375 said:

I’m new to this forum, but I just looked through your posting history. All you do is argue and bicker with people in a very aggressive manner.

How about trying to make a positive contribution to the world and sharing love? That’s what Giani Ji did recording so much katha and sharing their experiences of being with mahapurkhs.

If I spoke in favor of takhur Singh, you would have praised me.  Since I asked you to not highlight takhur singh as his negative actions will come to light, you have an issue with me.  This baba mentality is the issue with your type of people.  People like you don't want to see the other side of the coin.  When a person like me present it.  You sound the bell of the other being aggressive.  If you had actually seen my post, you would have seen other posters like @proactive swearing at me.  Did you see how I responded? No, because that would not favor you or your baba mentality. 

By shining a light on people like takhur Singh who have wronged in the past, I am positively adding to the world.  You surely will not agree because it does not further your cult mentality. 

When takhur Singh misdeeds show up on this forum.  You can't say you were not warned.

2 hours ago, Singh375 said:

Yes Giani Ji is in chardikala

These days they focus on doing bhagati not katha

Sant Jarnail Singh Ji told them “you will do seva first then bhagati towards the end of your (long) life”.

 

You don't want comments posted about takhur singh that will show case him in a light that isn't good due to his actions.  So don't make up or circulate made up stories that he would want others to believe.

This is a cheap publicity stunt.  There are many working Sikh doctors dealing with the coronavirus issue and they have not cut their hair.  Non sikh doctors are still working without shaving at hospitals.  What makes this guy special?  

Seva in this doctor's case would be, keep on working at the hospital without cutting hair and  rely on mask that have been made for people with beards.  The Canadian chief defense minister developed his own mask and this guy could of reached out to harjit sajjan. Other industries have created mask that  would have worked.  Firefighters wear mask that blows oxygen into the mask which allows the firefighters to breath.  But it also is designed to keep any air from coming inside because its blow air into the mask.  So this mask with oxygen tank would have been good to use when this doctor was around patients with coronavirus. Many professionals are working on the frontlines who are considered frontline staff during this time of coronavirus and they don't behave in this foolish manner. 

Those educated in this matter will know this guy as the biggest buffoon of all time.

20 minutes ago, H908 said:

How can they be traitors, when they werent even sikh

Very true, he starts off by saying hes a sikh.  Then a third into the video he goes hes never been religious.   A Sikh is religious.  There is no end to the lies he will spread. 

33 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

If you  had an iota of some rare gray matter stuff, you would have comprehended who started their cr2p.

Or all casteist pseudo Sikhs like you find it difficult  to comprehend?

Yea, I know my last name.  What are you going to do about it?  

16 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

AND YOU SOUND  TO BE A TYPICAL CLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!

DO YOU WORK IN A COMEDY SERIAL BTW.

DIMWITS LIKE YOU WHO STILL FOLLOW THE HINDU CASTE SYSTEM ARE NOT SIKHS.

 

Does anyone have a glass of water for this guy.  Hes gone off the rail again!!!!

You never learn, but you are not the only one who behaves in this manner repeatedly. 

52 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

 Didn't know that you can joke too? Which state is non corrupt in India?

Dont be a troll.  

1 hour ago, DailyMail said:

 Buddha Dal has already disowned these criminals. It's a shame some fantasists on this thread are living in cuckoo land.

 

The police are there to enforce the law. No one is above the law. 

Please don't quote the corrupt leader of buddha dal as a legitimate source.  the government put him in power to run buddha dal as they want.  

Did the nihang Singhs go too far? So far what we have been told, yes.  The sword should not have been used to chop at them, but as method to stop the attack. When the sword came out the coward police ran for their lives.  They should have got back in the truck and left.

Police in non corrupt states are there to enforce the law.  However punjab police are corrupt to the core.  Had these nihang Singhs given a bribe, they would have let them go on their way.

2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

before Guru ji  there were bhagats - Bhagat Namdev was one he was of a different faith label ,  and all the bhagats had different methods of doing bhagati but they were one-minded .

before Gurbani , there were many different faiths  still are , all ages means all ages (even before this pasara) gurbani doesn't differentiate between faith labels for true bhagats , as they have risen above and Guru ji is samm drisht anyhoo. Do you really think no body ever attained paramhans stage prior to Guru Nanak Dev ji? in other words if they are taking Akal purakh as their one tek , their true guru why would they not achieve kirpa ?

 

 

This is what the British taught you and sold it as sikhism.  I am asking you about Sikhi. Sikhi says Gurbani has always been here.  And Gurbani has presented itself throughout the ages to protect its bhagats.  Please dont limit Gurbani to your minds understanding of how the world may work.  You made a claim and said Gurbani supports it.   you presented a Gurbani tuk and it did not say bhagat of many faiths existed, which was your original statement. Now you are using manmat to rationalize how not bhagat naamdev ji met Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji.   Bhagat naamdev ji didn't know naam simran, so how can he know akal Purakh? Only after meeting Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji/satguru did he receive the teachings, took Satguru as his Guru and received kirpa of becoming one with akal Purakh. 

Do you agree with Gurbani,  without Satguru no one, even bhagat naamdev ji can't be saved?

31 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Bhagat Namdev ji's life was before advent of Guru Nanak Dev ji we all know he was blessed with Naam and had Waheguru ji's protection due to the sakhi of the temple doorway moving to where he sat to allow him to pray. His Bani is now Part of Guru ji so this means he was accepted by Sikhi path.

Gurbani- Asa di Vaar:

Har jugu jug Bhagat upaiya, paij rakhdiya aaya Ram Raje
In every age Waheguru (Ram RAi) has protected his Bhagats

You said, "there have always been bhagats of Akal Purakh in many faiths"

I asked you to provide proof to say bhagats of Akal Purakh are in many faith and you said it's in Gurbani.  You provided a Gurbani line and the line says:

ਹਰਿ ਜੁਗੁ ਜੁਗੁ ਭਗਤ ਉਪਾਇਆ ਪੈਜ ਰਖਦਾ ਆਇਆ ਰਾਮ ਰਾਜੇ ॥
ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਹਰੇਕ ਜੁਗ ਵਿਚ ਹੀ ਭਗਤ ਪੈਦਾ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਤੇ, (ਭੀੜਾ ਸਮੇ) ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੀ ਇੱਜ਼ਤ ਰੱਖਦਾ ਆ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ 
In each and every age, He creates His devotees and preserves their honor, O Lord King.

nowhere in the above Gurbani line does it say, there have always been bhagats of Akal Purakh in many Faiths. Instead the above Gurbani says he creates and preserves his bhagats in every age.  Had it said in every age akal Purakh creates and preserves his bhagats of every faith.  You would have a point.  But it doesn't say this.

bhagat naamdev ji was not Satguru.  So he could not attain akal Purakh himself.   Gurbani says without Satguru akal Purakh cannot be attained.  Gurbani says Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji is nirankar and is the highest/supreme who has kept me safe.  A poster on this forum tried to push his opinion that bhagat naamdev ji was a hindu.  Nowhere in Gurbani does it say Bhagat ji is a hindu.  Instead bhagat kabir ji says he is not a hindu or muslim.  

On 4/10/2020 at 2:19 PM, jkvlondon said:

gurbani

Hello, many like you make this claim but none have provided any Gurbani to substantiate their claim.  

3 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

 

Do you see how it says in the video notes, same horse breed as Guru Sahib horse for the last horse?  

They are actually very nice horses.  Well kept and fed.  

Langar will continue.   You guys will whine. You guys will go to the nagar kirtan to eat all your favorite dishes.   Then complain more about langar.  You will eat lavishly at home and restaurants,  while cursing the langar of the Guru.   

You can't force Sikhi down people throats.   If someone wants to do naam simran, it's on them.  If someone wants langar from the Guru than it's on them.  

I can see you guys turning into the new Christian's of sikhism.  If you dont say these prayers 10 times, then no langar for you......get out of my house....I paid for the fridge in the Gurdwara kitchen.

6 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

The point here is the nihang singhs were breaking the curfew imposed on people of punjab for their own good, that is protection from coronavirus . And on top of that, the police itself were attacked. BTW, I am no fan of police. I know there're MANY wolves in there . I know they also give common people a tough time. But now the news is "Nihang sikhs cut off the hand of police that wanted to impose curfew for safety of people" . How does that sound ? it ironically puts the nihang singhs in a negative light, and on the wrong side of things

 

You don't know what happened.   Punjab police are corrupt to the core.  Punjab police are not there to set curfews.  They are taking bribes and taking advantage of the common folk.   

When has news ever been there to properly portray what happened and especially when Sikhs are involved?  This is not new.  The nihang Singhs were outnumbered so taking out the sword is justified.   Cutting off the hand, well that is tough to say either way.