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Cake looks good

From what I understand from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, it’s a grey area. From what I have read, Ang 1289-1290 Guru Nanak Dev Ji ridicules those with their priorities mixed up - they fight over not eating meat but do not spend their time  remembering waheguru. Finally concluding that eating meat or veg is the same as they are living beings and basic ingredient is water. I believe guru ji is stating focus on yourself and remember waheguru.

I am a vegetarian. It agrees with me. But in this age, it’s very difficult to be pure veg with all these hidden ingredients.

Forgive me if I didn’t grasp the meaning and lesson behind this message.

@harsharan000 where have you disappeared to?

It’s really bad.

Glad to see the panth finally waking up and taking action.

He is no way legitimate! People like him set up these nakli deh dhari cults and take advantage of innocent people.

As Singh’s we should and it is our duty to stand up for the innocence. It doesn’t matter if there will be 100 or 10,000 people to see him if a pakhandi is taking advantage we should be there! His following is growing from the first guy that set up this cult. They attract a lot of Sikh just by having Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Jis name in their company name They place a Saroop of Guru ji next to his stage. Using sikh appearance to attract singh Family’s. We need to be careful and protect not just our own but all these innocent people attracted to these pakhandis.

As singh brothers we should and have a duty to protect.

I’m sorry but this is how I feel. I’m passionate about this subject as I have seen the affect of these pakhandis. It tears family apart and from our satgurus paath. The  path of saints is not from pakhandis like this guy.

I appeal to our Khalsa panth we should go and stop this. I have heard we did before. It’s time we do this again maybe some elders should come and who can nicely explain to this guy don’t come to the uk and try to cause confusion or separate Gursikh sangat?

I will be going with a few of my singh brothers. This can all be done with a peaceful manner.

Just my thoughts. 

Waheguru

Urgent appeal!!!

Request all sangat to help stop the pakhandi protien baba sant tarlochan darshan dass 

He has a programme tomorrow:
Friday 21st September 2018
From 6pm to 9pm
Kenton Hall,
Woodcock Hill,
Harrow,
London,
HA30PQ

We need to stop this profiteering on the vulnerable. Time to clear up all these phakandi nakali babeh. He got a bad name all over India at the moment... I’m guessing he’s here to get away from our Singh’s back home. 

Please show support. This is sewa for the panth. We need to protect our future! 

WJKK WKJF

He clearly has won the award for fake sant of the year!!

But on a serious note, this is very worrying. How do we protect people from leading astray? There are so many nakli babeh out there... Khalsa fauj was created to serve and we can’t even protect our own

We need to have modern day awareness courses in all gurdwaras highlighting topics like this too. Is this something that Basics of Sikhi can help with?

31 minutes ago, muscleman said:

Our bodies can only endure spiritual sadhnas as long as they remain fit and healthy. Unless you are physically fit and healthy your body will not be able to sustain  lengthy - long lasting  samadhies; without this we will never attain mukti. Healthy body is important when we are walking the path of spirituality, for self-realisation. Don’t follow the sheep on this forum, follow the LIONS with all your heart and soul.  LEARN IT, KNOW IT.

People have been doing sadhanas for thousands of years without the need for protein shakes, but obviously this Baba has got to pay the bills. #WheyWalaBaba

Brother, it seems that my idea of a sant and your idea of a sant is totally different. Satguru sab te Kirpa kare.

There are many Godly souls out there who teach and guide us on Satgurus path. I just don’t believe a Sant should be making money from things like this and then saying it’s prashad! 

Check this out guys... When things can’t get any worse. The reign of fake babeh  is never ending...  Baba selling protein shakes ???

WJKK WJKF

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Did any one from this forum go to see it?

I had went to watch it. Outside the cinema there was a handful of our brothers outside, trying to deter everyone from watching it... From what they had been told, and telling people was false. First of all, there was not an actor playing Satguru Nanak Dev Ji, it was an animated light.

The movie was a collection of sakhia narrated and relived through the eyes of bhai mardana ji. It highlighted Satguru ji's messages to the world... the cinematography was awesome. The soundtrack was gurbani shabad kirtan. I still listen to it, and the version of the aarti mentioned above I find blissful.

Okay, I can see the issue with actors/actress playing certain roles. But if you think with an open mind, its the first time someone has made a movie about Guru Nanak Dev Ji and put on it a worldwide level platform. A part from jesus christ, I don't think I've seen a movie of that calibre about any other faith.

To me and what I have understood from gurujis teachings. Everything is temporary, and death is a reality. everything turns back into dust... the only thing that is true and constant is Waheguru! If we look at the world and history, people have argued about what jesus had looked like. Have these people listened and learnt from the bible?! I've heard people say about guru jis painting, this is the real roop of guruji (not too sure if was at gurudwara sisganj or bangla sahib) - But from my understanding, the body is a vessel and is temporary. I have not read or seen anywhere to worship the gurus processions and artefacts. Don't get me wrong when I see such items and shastars I bow my head out of respect as it had belonged to gurus. but the gurus have never said worshp them or material things.

I saw the movie as re asserting what we have been taught. some of the core sikhi principles. It was a reminder of the love and greatness of guru nanak dev ji.

Being an introvert and one who doesn't know how to express himself well, what I'm trying to say is if we look beyond the material things and try to understand on an open and deeper platform, maybe one day those seeking salvation will be blessed. I think it all starts with being humane with a combination of understanding what has been said in the bani and practicing it.

Forgive me if I had said anything wrong. I'm still learning. I've joined this forum to learn through expressing my views. kindly correct me and help me understand if you disagree

I agree, I believe faith and knowledge goes hand in hand. If you believe, have faith or do any paath, its important to understand the meaning, the purpose, the message which we are blessed with. This is an issue with the world and religions across the world. I am grateful for organisations such has basics of sikhi and others organisations which break down and help us all to understand the teachings, paath within our guru granth sahib ji.

@harsharan000 well said!! 

Thank you. It's nice when people share knowledge and help development of others. 

I am very sorry but am very sceptical of sants. The knowledge they may give, I am grateful - I guess it's when people put them on a platform and they allow it. I'm sorry if I may offend anyone. I'm still learning everyday. 

Sewa is very humbling and blissful

I see spirituality as a rollercoaster, you will have those times. I sure they are all tests. But just don't give up. Start in small doses, build it up again. 

Whether I have those times or not, I still talk to waheguru ji as a best friend, or parent or try think of waheguruji in whatever I do. I guess it's about developing that pure unconditional love - just like how Guru ji has for you.

Not to become routine but to develop the thirst for god and do path/kirtan/simran.

Jokes aside, it's saddening that it's taken 15years since the victims letter. It's about time the whole world sees the truth with these so called pakhandi babeh. Hope others are exposed such as maharaj trilochan darshan das, that guru maa... there's way too many on the list. 

WaheguruJi please open everyone's eyes to the truth. Forgive the innocent who have beenn brainwashed and show them the correct path!!!

@harsharan000 i miss your words of wisdom posts... hope all is well. 

It's not just RS, you have other cults out there too. They use gurbani to lure people to fill their pockets. They are leeches, do not follow these so called cults... so called baba trilochan das has even started charging money for prashad. Rebranding Ayurvedic as guru prashadam and sell it to their followers - google it.... People Need to wake up. Faith is a business for these so called pakhadis.

On 27/01/2017 at 10:37 PM, Preeet said:

Our Satguru ji is only Satguru because of perfect qualities. Kabir ji's shabads which are accepted and one portion of our Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is proof that they are not different from a Satguru &their qualities are also perfect since we matha tek to their gurbani as well. Anyone who matha teks to our Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji also matha teks to everyone who has shabad portions in it by default.

Thank you for the awakening. I always have had respect for bhagats. But I know very little. I could be bias as I see Satguru ji as a greater form. Yes I agree, the shabads and writings of bhagats are just a different manifestation of devotion towards waheguru.