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I just read that it’s a western (American) Sikh organisation.

I can certainly relate to them more than India based organisations.

I agree with the cult 3ho.

But Sikhi is well known in the west because of them.

Many westerners go to their website.

Sikh net has a lot of Kirtan to choose from and i enjoy reading their news.

15 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

I've only heard a few of the recordings (which are very shudh) but yes most definitely given Bhagat Ji's jeevan.

Nihung Santhiya also give lessons via Skype. Gurmat Veechar has some recordings of Santhiya from Taksal as well. Both excellent.

I'm not being biased but really Taksal are the leaders in Santhiya, and a lot of the good Ustaads in the UK are ones who have learned directly from them.

You will still find some minor differences depending on which branch of Taksal the Ustaad has learnt from, and some other small variables but it's generally the same standard. One sorta big example that comes to mind is the pronunciation of pairi akhars; some don't put emphasis on these (imo you should though).

Occasionally people try to learn from complete recordings e.g. the famous Bhai Jarnail Singh and while these are really epic recordings, you can't learn from them...they're still worth listening to just familiarise yourself however. Some recordings by Namdharis on Youtube too which are shudh.

 

I'm not sure I agree...the way you have worded your post makes it seem like it's not important. You should only use it where it is indicated.

Learning to pronounce words correctly is good.

But the message is more important.

9 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

It's very important to know how to pronounce zazza (and where and which Bani's), but I have heard many people who don't have shudh uchaaran decide to put it where they think it goes, where it most definitely does not. For example:

ਹੁਕਮਿ ਰਜ਼ਾਈ ਚਲਣਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਨਾਲਿ ॥੧॥

ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜ਼ਰੀ

 

Not only is this irritating but it's also wrong. Santhiya is jaroori; don't make up your own rules.

I agree. Just go with the flow.

Don’t get caught up with where to add a Z. If you use it then and now it’s fine.

The old Punjabi doesn’t have the letter Z it is derived from Farsi.

The new modern Punjabi does have Z.

Is is Okay to use it in Gurbani.

One convert to Sikhi in a year isn’t good enough.

These 2 faiths are spreading rapidly in the west.

The Hare Krishna in the west.

Many convert to Islam (especially black people).

We as Sikhs need to do more to attract people in the west.

Why does it have separate name to Dasam Granth?

3 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

The roots of words in Japji Sahib aren't just Sanskrit, there are Persian and Arab ones too. 

I like the Quranic Arabic.

Western scholar describing Sanskrit

I heard that they did 5 Banian alone and Sukhmani Sahib and Asa Di Vaar with the Sangat.

I like the usage of Sanskrit words used in Jaap Sahib.

This ancient language from India would have disappeared from earth.

Sanskrit was spoken by the Brahmins (priestly caste).

Now Hindi has taken over.

There is Sanskrit Saloks in Guru Granth Sahib.

Watch Punjabi films.

The lost culture of Europe where everyone covered their heads and supported beards.

Are we allowed to kill (harmful) wasps and spiders?

I mean in the house.

I went to Smagam today  and they had 300 year old Puratan Saroop of Guru Granth Sahib Jee.

Satnaam - auda Naam sach hai

Karta purakh - au sab na da karta hai

Nirbhau - au noo kise da darr nahi

Nirvair - Au noo kise naal ver nahi

Akaal Murat - au di moorat akaal hai

Ajuni - au jooni vich nahi auda

Saibhang - au da Prakash apne aap taw hoa hai

Gurprasad - Guru di Kirpa naal jani da hai

Jap - au da naam japo

Aad sach - shuru taw sach saroop hai

Jugaad sach - jug shuru hoye te sach see

Hai bhee sach - hun bhee sach hai

Nanak hosi bhee sach - (Guru) Nanak kehnde hai au bhiwik vich vee sach hove ga

They destroyed Sri Guru Ravidass Mandir in Delhi. 

Samagam in Smethwick UK to celebrate 550 Parkash Diwas of Guru Nanak Dev Jee and Sampooranta Diwas Guru Granth Sahib Jee.

https://summersmagam.com/

When the Singhs were at war with Mughals, the latter used Muslim women to trap the Singhs.

Hence Charitropakhyan was composed as a warning.

Nihangs (who remain celibate) read  Charitropakhyan.

For me this section (one third of Sri Dasam Granth) is the play of Maya which ends with Benti Chaupai.

http://www.babanandsinghsahib.org/

I think Sikhi is much stronger in the west rather than India.

In India they follow Sikhi because of their ancestors whilst in the west they actually choose to become Sikhs.

England has a lot of history. There are castles, museums, old houses dating back 500 years, the Queens house.

I live in UK and London has always been my favourite.

Do Sukhmani paath. It is wonderful and powerful bani.

Some Sikhs recite it everyday.

The paath will give peace to you and the deceased.