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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! Very sorry for replying SOOO Late! :umm: @ A large collection of keertan DVD's, VCD's, CD's and tapes are available at more or less every rehnbhai, including the Bradford rehnbhai last week. This includes the recent Manchester Smagam last yr, North Smagam, International smagam and many more keertan programmes. Please attend Rehnsbhai Keertans regularly if u wish to purchase them. Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! wow didn't know that Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

lol i think i also agree!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! well said - i agree. i personally believe that all choices (besides the one abt all sikhs can wear the kirpan regardless of what stage they are at make no sense:

agreed.he started all this fuss by showing off his knowledge - "cardiac arrest" , which he must've learnt in the last 2 years: novtejsinghkhalsa Posted on Nov 7 2003, 10:17 AM

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! First of all Doc, I never said that you said that a Sikh can specifically go to the mandir. You, yourself presumed that. What you actually wrote was: In other words, a Sikh can go to the Mandir to pray to the wonderfull lord Waheguru. Well I wrote in reply: Meaning that why would a Sikh go to the Mandir in the first place when the Gurdwara is always open for Sikhs to practice Sikhi without restraint. Logical isn't it. And if I'm not mistaken, you agreed with that which I am grateful of: I more or less agree with everything here. You should have written that in your previous post which would have prevented me in replying thinking that you believe that Sikhs can go to the Mandir, Mosque or Church ONLY to worship Waheguru! I personally wouldn’t go to a Mandir even if invited and I have my reasons but I don’t want to further this topic. What I disagree with is: (I think u meant Mosque here am I right?)This point has been made before, but still, the message fails to get across. Guru Nanak Dev jee went to the Mosque ONLY to make a point, which you and I both stated, in our previous posts. Guru Nanak Dev Jee couldn’t have made that point effectively WITHOUT going to the Mosque. That doesn’t mean that Sikhs can go to the Mandir or Mosque just because Guru Nanak Dev Jee did – It is not a valid reason!!! Guru Nanak Dev Jee did unusual and extraordinary things just to make a point powerfu lly and efficiently. You know the story of Guru Nanak Dev Jee and the Hindu pilgrims at Hardwar. That doesn’t mean that we Sikhs can go to the River Ganges just because Guru Nanak Dev Jee went there! There are many more example of this. You wrote: I agree that you should meditate on Waheguru openly and without fear in any place at any time. What I don’t agree with is that if a Sikh goes to the Mandir or Mosque and starts to do Simran loudly and openly whilst the Hindus worship. That would be very insulting for the Hindus and would infuriate them to cause tremendous conflict and confrontation. It would also be egotistical and arrogant. If I by some unknown reason was in a Mandir, I would meditate or recite bani quietly BUT without fear because you should respect others beliefs as: ihMdU qurk duhUM mih eykY khY kbIr pukwrI ]3]7]29] hindhoo thuruk dhuhoon mehi eaekai kehai kubeer pukaaree The One Lord is within both Hindu and Muslim; Kabeer proclaims this out loud. ||3||7||29|| This is what Guru Nanak Dev jee did when he went to the Mosque – he did not recite gurbani loudly, but remained quiet and disciplined and recited bani quietly as the muslims performed their evening prayer. Also, you have misunderstood some of my points such as this: Errm... I dont recall saying that? I never said that you said that! I don’t know if you misunderstood or if I didn’t write too clearly, if so, forgive me. Sorry if I offended Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! Doctor Saaab! (that is if you are really one) What I dont undertand is why would a Sikh specifically go into a Mandir so he/she could pray to the wonderful Lord Waheguru when they can just go to the Gurdwara to freely practice Sikhi!? What would a Sikh do in a Mandir? Would he/she sit in the corner and confidentially meditate on Waheguru as the rest of them worshipped their idols? Would a Sikh pretend to participate in their singing of hymns from the Vedas but secretly whisper Chopai Sahib to theirselves? Because I am well aware that a Sikh can't just go into a Mandir and openly pray on the Lord Waheguru in the form of doing Simran, Path etc... It is equivalent to Hindus coming into the Gurdwara and practising their beliefs. It would cause tremendous confrontation and conflict. I know that Guru Nanak Dev Jee went to the Mosque BUT he went there to show a point - the Guru went there and stood by quietly reciting gurbani while the rest performed their afternoon prayer. And when the Qazi stood up to begin the prayer, Guru Nanak Dev Jee took one look at him and laughed as his mind was elsewhere. Guru Nanak Dev Jee went to the Mosque only to demonstrate this, that the mind always wonders even while praying therefore devotion to the Lord cannot be true: kwjI swihbu eyku qohI mih qyrw soic ibcwir n dyKY ] kaajee saahib eaek thohee mehi thaeraa soch bichaar n dhaekhai O Qazi, the One Lord is within you, but you do not behold Him by thought or contemplation. Guru Nanak Dev Jee did not go to the Mosque so he could EXCLUSIVELY pra y on Waheguru by reciting Gurbani and doing Simran. So that does not mean that Sikhs could go to the Mosque, Mandir or Church ONLY to woship on Waheguru. Sorry if I offended Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Why change your own original eye colour that Waheguru gave you? The wearing of coloured and tinted contact lenses are seen as fashionable nowadays, which is the reason why so many people wear them. Another form of maya...

Dr Mani stated: Then why would you go to a mandir? Are you saying that there is nothing wrong for Sikhs to go to the Mandir to to take part in worshipping idols, joining in with the arti ceremony or any other hindu practice?If you are, then I disagree with you. If you aren't, then can you explain why it is okay to go to a mandir. Guru Sahib says: and also: Sorry if I offended

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! Let's see what the sangat thinks. Science vs Guru Granth Sahib

doctor_mani Posted: Nov 6 2003, 02:42 AM

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! Some good points I singh! some people may call a person ramgarhia beacuse it may be the name of the gurdwara they go to. For instance "gobind marg boys" - isn't any diiferent. Thought i make that point as i've seen that at the end of some messages. lol - sounds pretty rediculous to be honest. All for the Panth.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! what do you mean by are they AKJ?? :T: I have come to know that when gursikhs do keertan in a continuous manner, thats akhand keertan. The fact that everyone does it together makes it a jatha. please feel free to oppose. The Khalsa Panth

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! My question is whether any of you lot know whether the mandir has links with RSS or not. As far as i'm aware this topic seems to be more of a hotspot for youth in Braford. I can see that ther is definately a segregation between the sikh youth (i assume youth as the elders would probably say things straight to each others face) in bradford. I've come to know that the centre that you are also 'ASSUMING' to be a centre for RSS is actually a :v :g Nirankari Bhavan. Now this group is mislead in such a way that they only believe the guru in form of a human. please follow the link: Nirankari Bull another intereseting one ht tp://www.sikhlionz.com/nirankari.htm We should try and aim to resolve problems. Thought i make a few pointers Yours The Khalsa Panth