sikh_youth_uk

Due to myself knowing one or two if feel it is an opportunity to bring them back to their original faith.

Using reason logic and SGGS scripture this task can be fulfilled.

First it important to know the origins of Raodaswamis (help needed here) from what I know it was started by the bloke called dyal, who was thrown out of a Gurdwara as he used use to alcohol. Im sure there more to it like who is aiding them.

There Scripture is also questionable is it true they have copied from SGGS and changed here and there to make look like a new message??

Most important are the activities and intentions against Sikhi and in what way.

Quotes and facts needed.

Thank goodness the MODS have seen sense and closed the most recent post by sikh-youth-uk about the incest issue and Muslim....seems like EVERYONE is jumping on the band wagon and criticising any aspect of Islam for the purpose or stirring debate...which is probably not very constructive at all.

I for one am glad that particular discussion thread was stopped and I hope people see the sense in NOT trying to criticise anyone else's religion and actually start to criticise themselves for a change!!!

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My thread quoted stats from an authentic source the BBC, it is something which does go on. Fair enough it got closed but how is it anti anyone ??

Know one wishes to teach the ethics, the values of Sikhi, because their is no preaching in a language that the youth can understand this is bound to happen,

The people who run Gurdwara dont want the sangat to know the turth about Sikhi cos is the the sangant found out Gurdwara commities would never make any money - FACT

Tensions will rise.

Below is the Islamic Council of Great Britain´s response to the situation in Sudan and efforts to make the Sudanese authorities see sense.......

kauragous is a great orgainsation keeping it alert on what the scum are up to.

Christmas for most is just a seasonl celebration/Holiday period that ends the year off.

Sikhi talks about souls being one with God, in other faiths it talks about rewards and punishment of a physical person.

The ones talk about rewards and punishment of a person bury so how does the body reach where they think it is meant go???

Could our argument be stronger in that we cremate so the soul can reach where we feel its going or even in to another entity??

I picked up a packet and saw the halal sign I was horrified and put it back, check before you buy.

The old saying is you cant trust them.

Never get too close to them in terms of frienship and always be aware of what they're up to.

MOH in Punjabi means attachment to worldly things and relations.

Can anyone give an example to me is like being obssed with a football team ??

Sorry not interested in Jackanory, I deal with philosophy.

obviously you have not bothered to contemplate bani in a broad sense.

To contemplate something in a broad way can lead you to understand something wrongly, and could mislead as broad would mean, not stringent and not straight to the point.

With ethics and doctrine it has to be concise.

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iblwvlu mhlw 5 ]

bilaavul mehulaa 5

Bilaaval, Fifth Mehl:

ibnu swDU jo jIvnw qyqo ibrQwrI ]

bin saadhoo jo jeevunaa thaetho biruthaaree

That life, which has no contact with the Holy saints, is useless.

imlq sMig siB BRm imty giq BeI hmwrI ]1]

miluth sung sabh bhrum mittae gath bhee humaaree

Joining their congregation, all doubts are dispelled, and I am emancipated. ||1||

Could it mean the Saints of that time ??

A sakhi comes to mind. enjoy

Respect for Gurbani

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

When Baba Ji was only a few years old everyone in his village noticed he was different from ordinary children. Instead of spending time talking or playing Baba Ji would immerse himself in Seva and in Naam Simran 24 hours a day.

One time as the children were playing outside some villagers saw Baba Ji carrying some planks of wood. They began to wonder what Baba Ji was doing.

Using a few tools he had borrowed from someone Baba Ji started to work on the wood he had bought while constantly keeping the name of Akaal Purakh on his lips. After a few days Baba Ji had finished his work and the villagers who were watching what Baba Ji was doing saw that he had made a Manji Sahib.

Baba Ji took this Manji Sahib into his house and placed a new cloth on it along with a new Rumalla Sahib. When he had done this he placed his gutka on the throne. Baba Ji also made a Chaur Sahib.

After preparing some sweets with the help of Mata Prem Kaur Ji, Baba Ji called out to all the children in the village to come to his house. They were curious as to what Baba Ji had been doing, so almost all the children who heard Baba Ji’s call went to his house. As they entered Baba Ji’s house he asked them to remove their shoes and wash their hands, feet and faces with water that he had brought in a jug. He then took them inside and told them to bow before their Guru. After all the children had done darshan of Guru Sahib and had spent some time reciting Gurbani, Baba Ji began to distribute the sweets his mother and him had prepared to all the children.

This is how much respect for Gurbani beloved Sikhs of Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj have.

Narrated by Bhai Harjeet Singh Ji

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

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Sorry not interested in Jackanory, I deal with philosophy.

sants are more interested in promoting thier own agender.

plenty of property and big bank accounts.

Good points some people are practising sant worship, with their collection of pictures of these religious types.

I have even scene pictures put in front of SGGS in Gurdwara, which is a complete disgrace.

Some Sants never tell you about real Sikh cos if they did, they would never make any money.

Look at Sant Mann, trying do some kind of miracle by preying while in cold water. This is contradiction of what Sikhi tells us.

WGJKK WGJKF!!

i agree, sant worship is increasing, our sikh brothers and sisters are falling into the trap of these so called sants... if they were truly "sants" then they would also understand sikhi, and not dwell in maya.

:nihungsmile: peace to all

Yes my Brother.

How many Sants translate/explain and show how to apply Gurbani?

You no the yogis and pundits who Guru Nanak jee confronted for cheating people??

Well these Sants are doing the same as the yogis

Good points some people are practising sant worship, with their collection of pictures of these religious types.

I have even scene pictures put in front of SGGS in Gurdwara, which is a complete disgrace.

Some Sants never tell you about real Sikh cos if they did, they would never make any money.

Look at Sant Mann, trying do some kind of miracle by preying while in cold water. This is contradiction of what Sikhi tells us.

they must go mad on valentines day lolll

Valentines day, mothers and fathers day all celebrated on the same day !!!

lolll that reminds of of a joke...

sikhs call it rakhri, hindus call it raksha bandhan, muslims call it valentines day :lol:

Somebody with business skills could capitalize on this and make the “3 in one card” !!

I don’t we should look in to it too much as it does not effect us.

they must go mad on valentines day lolll

Valentines day, mothers and fathers day all celebrated on the same day !!!

Yes very disgusting, but it has nothing to do with us, let them sort out it out (if it is a problem in their eyes that is)

Propagander

i will vote bnp, and boycott muslim shops.

I was watching a talk on a muzzie channel by Dr Zakir Naik (india), the talk was about identity of faiths.

He brought up beards and said the biggest apperceation of the beard has to go to the Sikhs, and was saying how Sikhs are very proud of their identity.

He also said how Sikhs will take employers to court if anyone says anything and Muslims hide there identity I always thought it was the other way round.

Dr. Zakir Naik is a very well-versed scholar. I have not had the chance to listen to many of his speeches or read his writings, only few. His opinions on Sikhi are not totally something we would disagree with, although the little bit here and there what we call incorrect does exist.

Dr Niak is a student of comparative Religion, he knows many verses of all Scripture from every Religion. I often wonder how he rembers them all.

my favorite quote of his is "To understand a Religion look at the Scripture not the people of that faith"