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So I usually do one hour amritvela simran but today maharaj kirpa I did 2. I went back to sleep for 2 hours and had the most disgusting, disturbing dream that I can’t even mention on here. There’s those kaam dreams just about kurheits and then there’s the most deep, disgusting dark dream I had, no exaggeration. 
 

This happened to me a couple of days back when I missed amritvela so I thought it was a sign to get up, but now it’s happening after simran.
 

Please help I feel so disgusting. I feel like I deserve to be punished in narak for this disgusting dream.

I don’t even think of kaam throughout the day. I do simran in my head and I read books on Sant mahapurash. I’ve began to keep some of sarbloh rehat (not all yet just incorporated batta into my life and completely stopped eating from outside). I also read more than 7 baniyan a daily. So I don’t understand why this is happening!!!!

What happened?

Well it’s all over now lol. We apologised to each other. She told me that she hasn’t got anything against sant ji as he did right to fight back the government. It’s because when my mum was small she has seen what was happening in Punjab with her own eyes as is still a bit traumatised by it. I found out today that one of my close relatives who was about my age was picked up by police and never seen again, she’s seen Sikh getting tortured with her own eyes which is why she felt like this. She was just scared of what happened to jaggi with also happen to me as well. 
She told me I can keep the pic on lol. 
Tbh I’m happy this happened today as now her misconceptions have been cleared. It’s a shame she was taught that sant ji was the problem by the Sikhs in her village, as we know not every Sikh was with sant ji. 

30 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

 

hey at least you will have peace at Daddi's , and have someone who is likeminded, Waheguru ji is sending you to sangat.

Yh maharaj kirpa

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

these cult followers don't realise that there is a definite hindu propaganda going on , like you need a dehdhari guru to explain Guru Granth Sahib ji else it is not possible to understand it for yourselves , make a donation, pay for your langar etc e

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22 hours ago, Guest Singh said:

Sums up everything I said. Focus is to much on ‘looking like a sikh’. No focus at all on the the things which will bring you close to god - simran, naam abiyaas 

Both are equally as important. Bani and bana. Maharaj described them both as wings. Yes maybe more influence is given to outward appearance than simran but that doesn’t mean that you take the stress off rehat and put it more on bani as you just did. You should be encouraging OP to keep rehat of Dastaar and naam simran not taking the stress of Dastaar and putting more emphasis on simran. They are both equal. Rehat keeps the simran going, you can’t have one without the other. You should have encouraged op to tie Dastaar and tell her to do naam simran as well not just outwardly appearance. 
bhul chuk maaf

I think dumalla suits everyone’s head as there’s so many ways you can tie it . Big, small, round, and you can end it anywhere. 
 

Just tie loads of styles, don’t give up on the dastaar. Maharaj has given his Khalsa a dastaar with a keski not a patka.

Once you start tying a dastaar you’ll go through loads of styles then you’ll find your one, this happened to me and almost all dastardhari people. 
 

I think most  styles do probably suit you, it’s mostly your mind getting used to tying a dastaar for the first time. 

I’ve also heard that the 4 jugs are a mental thing. Satjug being the time when you are doing simran or bani with dhiyaan, then slowly getting into treta when coming to the end of your nitnem, dwapur is once you’ve finished your nitnem and now doing other things but you are still in a little way connecting to bani, kalyug is when you’re constantly ingrained in thoughts and attacked by 5 chor. 
 

Those that have ajapa jaap simran happening in their body 24/7 through immense jaap and gurprsaad are constantly in satyug. Which is how we can all be living in the same time frame, however mentally living in different jugs. 
 

bhul chuk maaf. 

19 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Definitely kalyug brother. Lol. I'd say I feel you, and totally agree on that, but I know you're quoting Bani and what we think is beside the point. 

I am genuinely very curious though, and I can tell you must have thought on that, care to share what makes you see things that way?

Also very curious Veer Ji what sources you're drawing from?

Karni Nama about Khalsa Raj 

gurprataap suraj Granth 

I remember it from a Katha I heard of Giani sheer Singh 

bhai Rama Singh Ji’s vision of Khalsa Raj in their book “manmukh to Gurmukh” is where most of the info is from. 

also just various kathas and speaking to singhs. 

sorry I can’t give exact sources just what I can remember from the top of my head 

I think we are still in the early stages of kaljug, maharaj has written in nehkalank Avtar what will  happen in kaljug, some of it is happening now but more will come in the later years. 
 

Plus I’m sure Khalsa Raj will come in kalyug, I think it will last 14,000 years and be a mini satyug within kalyug. Then it’ll go back to kalyug again. Then Kalika will change the time back to satyug. 

Didn’t kaljug come to guru Nanak dev ji and explained it’s his raaj. I doubt kalyug is already over within 400 years. 

On 1/31/2020 at 1:50 PM, puzzled said:

Is there any significance to doing simran with a mala? I do it with a mala, with every bead say waheguru. If I dont use mala I cant concentrate.  Is it just a habit that iv got my self into? 

Another thing about 10mins into doing it my body starts feeling weaker/lighter it feels like my limbs are shaking, like a slight vibration. To stop that I lean myself against a wall or sofa.  

Another thing dont know why but my ears start popping!  A bit like when your in a aeroplane!  I hear these pops. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? 

Does anyone else have these things happen as well. 

Yh, Ears popping or thumping, throat pain and headaches. I’ve been through these when I started my abhiyaas not that long ago. You’ll soon go past them. 
 

a gursikh told me it’s just your body adjusting to the naam or jot which is beginning to manifest. 
 

some people see lights or get  some pains in their stomach; some even have toilet problems. It’s just your body adjusting it’s self. 

8 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

What are they experiencing?  Sounds? Seeing the future? Obtaining what they desire?  If they were experiencing something spiritual as Gurmat describes they would fall at the feet of Punj Pyare and take amrit.  

 

Satbachan, after speaking to them I know they were just going through dharam khand as they described as they were walking on their path they could hear screams of people in hell. As per what they hear or see he wouldn’t tell me more. 

Akalifauj, could you share some light on people of other faiths and paths experiencing stuff in simran which is described in Gurbani. 
 

My extended family members haven’t had gurmantar from Panj Pyare, however they have experienced stuff very similar to sikhi if not the same. 

Thanks for both of your inputs, really helped!

This reminds me of Bhai Rama Singh who used to jap raam as a kid and he spent the whole day and night in the forest, he searched everywhere for a path of Simran and then he found sikhi.

I also think sikhi only mentions ajpaa Jaap stage? Could be wrong 

Hmmm I feel as though those people who don’t jap gurmat Naam get to Khands below and up to  saram khand possibly Karam khand (very rare). I know people personally who have reached stages in their Simran (not gurmat) and have described their experiences, I think they are reaching the khands but no where near karam or sach khand. Idk, what do you guys think? 

I was reading discourses of the beyond and in the beginning of one of the chapters in part 3 the Sangat said to Sant Isher Singh ji “there are Sikhs, Hindus and Radha Soamis here and we all have similar experiences, we have come to the conclusion that all paths eventually lead you to the same destination”. Sant Isher Singh ji agreed and said this is very deep and true thinking, all paths will eventually lead to one destination. 
 

I feel as though this makes sense, but then again I always hear that Gurmat swaas swaas is the only way to get to sachkhand and it’s only for Sikhs. 
 

what’s the truth? 

On 1/17/2020 at 4:19 PM, ipledgeblue said:

so when the amrit sanchaar or khanday dee pahul ceremony needs to have a jathebandi stamp, then what does this mean?

The stamp is so the abhiyaalki knows which rehat is going to be given, because whatever rehat is given you have to follow it with satbachan. 
 

imagine you believe firmly believe kes to be a kakkar and then the Panj say the 1st kakkar is keski not kes. Or if you believe raag mala isn’t bani and then you’re told to believe it. If you’ve already made your mind up for which rehat you want to follow, then when you go to get Amrit and they tell you something else, the person won’t follow it wholeheartedly. Simple. 

the “Stamp” has nothing to do with Amrit because everyone drinks the same Amrit. With sarbloh batta, Panj baniya etc. It’s the rehat that’s given after (which is equally important) why the stamp is there. 
 

some people believe mool Mantar to be up to Nanak hosi bhi sach, Others believe firmly in 2 hours simran amritvela, the stamp is actually quite important for rehat come to think about it.  
 

I didn’t even used to believe in naam dirr and think all the stuff people tell me that happens is just made up or exaggerated. Until I went to get it

1 hour ago, Big_Tera said:

What about just believing in God and doing good deeds?

Why the need to do all these extra prayers. Surely that time would be more beneficial if you were helping the needy. Instead of spending all that time praying? Which is not really helping anyone. 

Errrmmm I do the help the needy in any way I can. Daswand to Charities, going out with Langar seva etc, I’ve spent time volunteering as well just last week I know it’s not major change and it’s nothing really but I do try to balance. But Amritvela is for guru ji lol that’s the only way we’re going to get Mukat. 
 

Can’t remember the pangti but guru ji says that giving to charities, good deeds are worth nothing if you don’t have naam. Also mentioned in Maskeen jis book karam philosophy and naam da heera. 
 

Any help on the topic mentioned would be appreciated. 

About a few months before pahul my nitnem was chardikala Panj granthi added and other baniyan maharaj kirpa. 
 

after Amrit and drirr I could really feel the difference, Saas Saas simran was happening a couple days after and I would wake up in the middle of the night and just automatically doing simran. 
 

well I had the flipping cold and just a couple of days after Amrit sanchar (last Saturday, got the flu on Monday) I was just such a Manmukh that I stopped doing the Hukam of 2 hours simran and cut it down to 45 mins and cut my nitnem down to 5 baniyan. 
 

now my flu has gone but I can’t concentrate for even 10 mins without looking at my phone to see what time it is. My Saas Saas simran has gone and kaam has kicked in. I was so depressed and frustrated with this morning simran that I just couldn’t concentrate. I’ve lost the little experiences I would have after a couple of days from sanchar and drirr. 
 

kaam dreams have kicked in after simran, my mind won’t concentrate. This morning I did around 40 mins of simran (20 mins was focused the rest was just mind wondering) then I did my nitnem that I used to do before. 
 

it seems like I’ve lost that chardikala with naam, please help me get it back!!!!!   

Dhan shaheedo  
Chardikala Singh 

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