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  1. Can someone please explain the 611 - 614 sakhi?
  2. Sometimes after amritvela sangat abhyaas, chardikala gursikhs say shaheed singhs came and did abhyaas with sangat. Ive heard this many times. Shaheed singhs become pargat normally to abhyasi singhs, as those gursikhs have dib drishti, they can see lok parlok.
  3. Never heard of shaheed Singhs coming to take a soul, normally for a very chardikala gursikhs panj Singh come to take them. It’s most likely true, as I’m not sure why anyone would lie about that. Also, if he told your friend 15 days and he died exactly 15 days after that, then it’s most likely true.
  4. Totally agree with above. Read jail chittiyan first. The first 100 pages will blow your mind! After that start to read bhai sahibs books. Most of his books are online and around 7 of the most popular books are translated into English. Here are some summaries of them from gurmat bibek forum (here 16 books are summarised however bhai sahib has written around 30 books while in jail): Books – Biographies Jail Chithiaan: This is the most popular and most widely read book of Bhai Sahib. This books contains detailed account of Bhai Sahib’s life from the time Bhai Sahib got interested in Gurmat all the way up to 1930 when Bhai Sahib got released from jail. The first 100 pages or so are about how Bhai Sahib got into Sikhi and how he had Darshan of Vaheguru. What an account Bhai Sahib has written about Darshan of Vaheguru. Bhai Sahib had to endure extreme hardships in jail to keep Gurmat Rehit including Sarbloh Bibek. It’s nothing short of a miracle that Bhai Sahib during the terrible times of early 1900s kept Sarbloh Bibek rehit in British jails. Guru Sahib worked through Bhai Sahib and showed the world how a Gursikh should keep Rehit. This book serves as an inspiration for Gursikhs around the world to keep Gurmat Rehit and work towards attaining Vaheguru Darshan. Ranglay Sajjan: This books contains life of companions of Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee. Bhai Sahib did great service for Panth by writing this book. This book not only contains life sketches of great Gurmukhs but also preserves some golden principles of Gurmat that otherwise would have been lost. Some chapters of this book cannot be read without shedding tears. This book inspires one to become a better Gursikh. Ones who are serious about their Sikhi should read this book not once but again and again. Books about Naam Gurmat Naam Abhyaas Kamaayee: This book contains detailed account of Gurmat Naam. Questions like What is Naam, How to Japp Naam, Where to find Naam, the concept of Naam, How to focus on Naam, Where not to focus while chanting Naam, what is Ajappa Jaap, True meaning of Sunaia and Manai Pauris of Siri Jap jee Sahib and Sarang kee Vaar etc. have been answered in great detail. After reading this book a few times, one gets true understanding of Naam and Gurbani now hits the reader with different affect. One’s Gurbani understanding increases manifold. Naam tay Naam Da Daata Satguru: This is another book totally devoted to the concept of Naam. How this book differs from Naam is that his book explains that Gurmat Naam is very special and rare and can be obtained only from the true Guru. This book enhances one’s understanding of Naam and inspires one to Japp Naam with increased vigour. Collection of Articles Gurmat Vichaar - This book contains some very interesting articles. Great articles on Amrit and Keski are in this book. Gurmat Lekh - This book has small articles that Bhai Sahib wrote from time to time. Gurmat Parkash - This book too has small articles, mostly those articles that Bhai Sahib wrote on Gurpurabs, for newspapers. Books on Sikh Mysticism Sach Khand Darshan – Many people think that the 5 Khands mentioned in Siri Jap jee Sahib are merely spiritual states but Bhai Sahib in this book has very strongly refuted such false claims and has proven that these Khands are real Khands where the Jeev-Aatma depending on its candidacy goes after death. Anhad Shabad Dasam Duaar: Gurbani mentions Dasam Duaar, Anhad Shabad, Angana and Panch Shabad many times. Since a normal person has no knowledge of these mystical terms, many Gurudummis like Radhasoamis take advantage of the gullible Sikhs and misinterpret these terms. Bhai Sahib in great detail has explained these concepts in the light of Gurmat and detailed the differences between the Dasam Duaar of Gursikhs as opposed to that of Yogis and Radhasoamis. It’s a wonderful book but very hard to read and understand. Charan Kamal kee Mauj - This book is very mystical. It talks about the Charan Kamals of Vaheguru and how one can enshrine the charan kamals of Vaheguru within oneself. The Charan Kamals of Vaheguru and Satguru jee are not made of flesh and blood and nor are they used as metaphors. The Charan Kamals of Vaheguru jee and Guru Sahib are very real. How do you wash Guru Sahib’s Charan and drink them? This question is answered in detail in this book. This book also talks about inverted Lotus at the navel and how it becomes straight through Naam Abhyaas. This book also talks about how the Mann rises from Nabh Kamal to Dasam Duaar. No other book talks about these subjects and ones that have attempted are so incomplete. Other Books of Bhai Sahib Gurbani diyan Lagaan Matraan dee Vilakhantaa - This book talks in detail about Gurbani grammar and correct padd-chhed of shabads. Reading this book one realises how the thinking of a Gurmukh is above and unique from commoners like us. Jhatka Maas Parthai Tatt Gurmat Nirna - This books refutes claims of supporters of meat. A great book. Gurmat Karam Philosophy - This book explains in detail the 9 meanings of the word "Karam". This book delves deep into how Karma works according to Gurmat. It also presents very interesting details on comparing Gurmat karams to non-Gurmat karams. This book is a rare book as it is not published anymore. A must read it is. Katha Kirtan - This book is the last book of Bhai Sahib and Bhai Sahib in this book proves that Gurbani Katha done at Gurdwara Sahibaan cannot be classified as Katha referred to in Gurbani. In Gurbani the word katha almost always means Gurbani itself or Naam Abhyaas. Gurbani in fact is the katha of Vaheguru jee, done by our Guru Sahibaan. This book is a great book that should not be left unread. Gurmat Gauravta - This books proves the supremacy of Gurmat over other matts (Dharams, religions). Bhai Sahib proves through Gurbani how all other religions fall short of reaching the true goal of humankind. A very great book this is. Gurmat Sach Nirnai - This book is very hard to concentrate on. Only when one has read other books of Bhai Sahib and wants to read on more, one should read this book.
  5. The state you are referring to is called ajapa jaap. This is when simran goes on in automatic mode inside and goes into rom rom. The way you get to this stage is by going to panj Singh, receiving naam and doing swaas grass simran. After immense jaap the simran will go into swaas automatically. Gurbani talks about multi tasking (doing worldly tasks and keep japping naam in surti (mind) in the beginning stages to reach this stage. There’s a shabad by bhagat namdev ji (I think or another bhagat) where they describe a child flying a kite and talking to his friend. The shabad explains how the child is talking to his friend however his chit is focused on the kite. There’s another shabad where it describes how women in olden times would carry pots of water on their heads and walk back to village while speaking to their friends. The same concept in this where the women are still walking and talking to their friends however their focus is on their heads so the pot of water doesn’t fall down. This is how we are to do simran throughout the day. We should do all worldly tasks but keep our chit in naam (jap naam in surti). So how do we actually do this? Gurbani updesh: ਊਠਤਬੈਠਤਸੋਵਤਨਾਮ ॥ While standing up, sitting down and sleeping, jap Naam. let’s leave sleeping for a moment as this will come by it’s self. However we can focus on the beginning shabad. This shabad is talking about naam simran at all times. But let’s take this shabad literally. Whenever you get up start to jap naam and when you sit back down begin to jap naam in surti. After some time your mind will get used to it and whenever you sit down your mind will automatically start to jap naam and when you stand up your mind will again jap naam. It will form a habit by guru kirpa. there are many other tips, but naam paras kala is only received to the person who has been given naam by the guru. You cannot open dasam dwaar with gurmantar without receiving the mantar in the first place. Otherwise what would be the point of Amrit? Panj Singh will give you the technique to jap naam and how to do so throughout the day. As for experiences, when daas when to get naam drirr 6 singhs and 2 bibiyan went unconscious. The kala of naam is seen and experienced by everyone who is present where naam drirr is given. Naam simran for everyone goes into automatic mode. It depends on the karam how long this will last. For some people it is only within the amrit sanchar, most people it happens for a couple of days and very very few gurmukhs it goes into automatic mode at all times till they leave this world. I never used to believe in it myself, my bibi challenged me to go and if I didn’t experience anything different she would never tell anyone to go again. That day guru sahib showed me the kirpa of naam. The rest is to remain gupt. Guru sahib kirpa you will also experience this rass. (Btw I’m not saying only naam drirr is the way to get naam, I’m just telling you my experience).
  6. “Some jatha baba” show some respect. That “some jatha baba” has done more for sikhi than you’ll ever do in 10 lifetimes
  7. Because Guru Granth Sahib was given gurgaddi. They are jagat guru. The other two Granths are maharajs own bani gifted to khalsa. But they were not given guruship. Lol this is exactly the confusion this type of stuff causes. We know for a fact Guru Granth Sahib ji was given guraddi. End of story.
  8. Doesn’t that mean that the hukamname of guru ji and rehatname are also guru ji? They are also gurvak. Should we say rehatname Guru Granth Sahib?
  9. Guru Granth Sahib ji is pooran Guru all on there own. I’ve heard *some* nihang singhs say that Guru Granth Sahib is incomplete without all three Granths, when all there are together then it’s pooran Sargon saroop of akal purakh and maharaj. That is nonsense, maharaj is complete on there own. Even if they didn’t have takhat, chandowa or chour they are still king of kings. We add these for our sharda. ਜੇਸਭਿਮਿਲਿਕੈਆਖਣਪਾਹਿ ॥ ਵਡਾਨਹੋਵੈਘਾਟਿਨਜਾਇ ॥ Dasam and Sarbloh Granth is also maharaj bani and 100% satkaryog but it was not given gurgaddi. It’s only some nihangs which consider Guru Granth Sahib “complete” if it’s on the same takhat as dasam and sarbloh Granth. Infact in the times of guru ji and the small time after, dasam Granth was called “dasve paatshah ka granth” I don’t think in any historical text you’ll find: dasam Guru Granth Sahib or sarbloh Guru Granth Sahib anywhere. Dasam paatshah jis bani is 100% sat. But Guru Granth Sahib ji was given gurgaddi alone on the takhat sahib, if dasam and sarbloh bani was on takhat as well then it’s different. Gurgaddi was also given to Khalsa panth alone. anyone is welcome to their own belief and I’m not attacking or putting any one down. But I just want to stress that maharaj alone was given gaddi, and alone they are complete.
  10. Just try and get a midday flight lol
  11. I’m on about 5 baniyan nitnem should be memorised no matter what. The rest is fine. plus I know many singhs who have panj granthi kanth, also a Singh who has akal ustat memorised. He recited naam swaas swaas and akal ustat in surti. Can you imagine the anand! You’ll find with listening people will get used to it and will be lazy to learn to read gurmukhi. In the first stages it’s alright but we should be reciting it ourselves. The best thing to do when listening is that recite it along with the Singh. Don’t just sit there listening, your mind will wonder. Only a naam abhyaasi who’s practiced the shabad can stop all thoughts and listen with ek man ek chit. This comes with practice. This is what maharaj is rehras sahib is saying is the hardest thing to do. Akhan aukha sacha naao. The required minimum is 5 baniyan this should be memorised, and if a Singh has prem for bani he will memorise the rest. plus Guru jis 52 hukams one is to get bani kant
  12. It’s so important we get nitnem kanth though. Listening is alright but you don’t want to have to rely on your phone for something as important as nitnem. What if your phone dies? It’s not hard to get nitnem baniyan memorised. I think all of us have chaupai sahib kanth, swvaiye sahib is also easy as its very small. Anand sahib is also fairly easy and japji saib is too, you just need to learn the order of pauris really, you’ll find many of us already know most of them. The problem for most people is jaap sahib. it took me half of a Sunday to get nitnem memorised completely. A singh told me to recite each pauri for every bani 10 times then recite the whole bani twice. This method helps so much. When bani is kanth you can close your eyes and focus more on bani. For those of us who are naam abhyaasi, we can recite bani is surti (in the mind without moving mouth) this will increase dhyaan by 10 times as we need to focus more and the mind will stop wondering. Nitnem in surti is so advantageous, it will increase our dhyaan in simran and our focus in many other things. Many gursikhs advise us to do this. Also, you’ll find in surti, nitnem gets completed much faster, with more concentration, win win lol. This means we have more time at amritvela to do more naam simran or read more bani. So many benefits!!!! Maharaj knows best.
  13. Never. There is no excuse. I know cases where people have gone back to maharaj because they a have made a bujjar kurheat. They’re asked how many nitnem they have missed. The panj Singh tell them that they must recite all missed nitnem then come back. Then they’ll be given amrit. I know a Singh who had to recite 30 nitnem! He missed a whole month! I don’t think you did it on purpose, so just read 2 nitnems the next time. It’s important you get nitnem kant (memorised) then you will never miss it.
  14. 5 in the morning, 1 evening, 1 before bed. This is minimum
  15. I think it was bhai vir Singh hi or some other famous gursikh that sobha called to have a look at the painting and the gursikh was displeased and said “my guru Nanak dev ji doesn’t look like that”. We shouldn’t even have paintings of guru sahib anyway smh
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