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  1. You can do both simultaneously. Naam simran out loud then nitnem in surat or other way round, whichever is easier. Once you become adept in your abhyaas then you can do your nitnem in your hirdha and simran in your nabhi. Your mouth is closed, no sound is made, it’s all within. This comes with kirpa. Simran done while falling asleep will eventually make it continue throughout the night. Then when you open your eyes at AV simran is already going on. Continue your simran while getting out your bed, going to the toilet, brushing your teeth and having ishnaan. Continue your simran while getting dressed and then sit down and do your abhyaas for however long. Start with 15 mins then work your way up to around 2-2 and half hours. Then do your nitnem. This is easier as your mind will get tuned to naam while gettting ready so it’ll make it easier to concentrate when sitting down. You can do nitnem first or after doesn’t make a difference because simran should not stop when doing nitnem. Once naam simran becomes automatic, then there is no before or after. Do whichever is easier. Most gursikhs do simran first then nitnem. Simran will make it easier to concentrate on nitnem.
  2. This is the most ignorant statement I have read on this forum lmao
  3. Fateh ji Abhyaas has four main stages ji: 1. Baikhri (mouth): this is the beginning stage. jaap is done with mouth open using our tongue. Basically chanting like we talk normally. Abhiyaas starts off loud as the mind is not used to bhagti so is constantly running, hence we do simian loudly so it's easier to concentrate at this stage. ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਹੁ ਜਪੁ ਰਸਨਾ ॥ Meditate on the Name of the Lord, Har, Har - chant it with your tongue. 2. Madham (throat): As the mind is becoming accustomed to listening to the shabad, we can now lower our voice to whispering jaap. as our mouth is open but we are using our breaths, this jaap occurs at the throat. If the mind starts to run go back to stage 1, then slowly turn it to whispering again. 3. pasanti (hirdha): the most important stage to reach as a gursikh. jaap turns to simran. now our mind begins to chant. there is no need to open our mouth or make any noise, all the sound is internalised. in this stage simran is matched with our breathing: ਸਾਸ ਸਾਸ ਸਾਸ ਹੈ ਜੇਤੇ ਮੈ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਮੑਾਰੇ ॥ With as many breaths as I have, I chant the Naam, under Guru's Instructions. ਜੋ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਧਿਆਏ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ ॥ One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind. 24/7 simran occurs at this stage. we are constantly breathing, we breath when we talk, sleep go to work etc. guru sahib has given an instruction to gursikh many times for our simran to be going 24/7: ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਲੇਇ ॥ Twenty-four hours a day, he takes the Name of the Lord. ਊਠਤ ਬੈਠਤ ਸੋਵਤ ਜਾਗਤ ਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਈਐ ਸਗਲ ਅਵਰਦਾ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥ While standing and sitting, while sleeping and while awake, meditate on the Lord, all your life. ||1|| ਊਠਤ ਬੈਠਤ ਸੋਵਤ ਜਾਗਤ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਈਐ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Sitting down, standing up, sleeping and waking, forever and ever, meditate on the Lord. ||1||Pause|| As our simran is now internalised and matched with breathing, we can do simran all the time. Whatever we do throughout the day, that is what we dream in the night. if we are constantly chanting with out breaths throughout the day it will occur when we are sleeping as well. when our eyes open at amritvela, if simran Is going on inside that means mind ws chanting while asleep. This is why matching simran with our breaths (swass swass or swaas graas) is so important. it's the technique guru sahib has given. when every breath is connected to Abhiyaas, guru sahib has himself called that gursikh a sant: ਜਿਨਾ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਨ ਵਿਸਰੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਾਂ ਮਨਿ ਮੰਤੁ ॥ Those who do not forget the Lord, with each breath and morsel of food, whose minds are filled with the Mantra of the Lord's Name ਧੰਨੁ ਸਿ ਸੇਈ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਪੂਰਨੁ ਸੋਈ ਸੰਤੁ ॥੧॥ - they alone are blessed; O Nanak, they are the perfect Saints. ||1|| this is the technique Maharaj is referring to in this Shabad: ਨਾਨਕ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਭੇਟਿਐ ਪੂਰੀ ਹੋਵੈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ॥ O Nanak, meeting the True Guru, one comes to know the Perfect Way. ਹਸੰਦਿਆ ਖੇਲੰਦਿਆ ਪੈਨੰਦਿਆ ਖਾਵੰਦਿਆ ਵਿਚੇ ਹੋਵੈ ਮੁਕਤਿ ॥੨॥ While laughing, playing, dressing and eating, he is liberated. ||2|| because while "laughing, playing, dressing and eating" we are breathing, and if we have reached this stage where simran is connected to our breaths then Abhiyaas doesn't stop while doing any of those activities. Maharaj has even said: ਜਿਨ ਹਰਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਬਸਿਓ ਤਿਨ ਮਾਤ ਕੀਜੈ ਹਰਿ ਬਾਂਝਾ ॥ The Lord's Name does not abide within their hearts - their mothers should have been sterile. Thus, mind must begin to do Abhiyaas with every breath. this is the technique. you don't need to go into the forest, or spend your life with a sant. How merciful Maharaj is. The technique to salvation is as simple as that. Our breathing is going on constantly, just match your simran with it internally. But don't be fooled! The technique may be simple, but for the mind to begin chanting it takes a lot of effort. We should dedicate around 2 hours at amritvela to reach this stage. but don't rush. start off with 15 mins then work your way up. ਮੁਖਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਕਰੈ ਵਿਰਲੈ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਵਸਾਇਆ ॥ Everyone can chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har with their mouths, but only a few enshrine it within their hearts. ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਨ ਕੈ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਵਸਿਆ ਮੋਖ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਤਿਨੑ ਪਾਇਆ ॥੮॥੨॥ O Nanak, those who enshrine the Lord within their hearts, attain liberation and emancipation. ||8||2|| ਰਾਮ ਰਾਮ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਕਹੈ ਕਹਿਐ ਰਾਮੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥ Everyone chants the Lord's Name, Raam, Raam; but by such chanting, the Lord is not obtained. ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਰਾਮੁ ਮਨਿ ਵਸੈ ਤਾ ਫਲੁ ਪਾਵੈ ਕੋਇ ॥੧॥ By Guru's Grace, the Lord comes to dwell in the mind, and then, the fruits are obtained. ||1|| when simran is internalised then no one knows you are doing it. you can go to work, eat, sit with your family they'll all be oblivious to the simran going on within: ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਐਸੀ ਵਡਿਆਈ ॥ Such is the Glory of the True Guru; ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਕਲਤ੍ਰ ਵਿਚੇ ਗਤਿ ਪਾਈ ॥੨॥ in the midst of children and spouses, they attain emancipation. ||2|| 4. Para (nabhi) when simran is connected to our breaths then it will go right down to the source of our breaths, our nabhi. at this stage our breath is seated at navel and our consciousness rises to the tenth gate. ਨਾਭਿ ਪਵਨੁ ਘਰਿ ਆਸਣਿ ਬੈਸੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਖੋਜਤ ਤਤੁ ਲਹੈ ॥ The breath is seated in the home of the navel; the Gurmukh searches, and finds the essence of reality. ਸੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਆਛੈ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਜੋਤਿ ਸੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਲਹੈ ॥ This Shabad permeates the nucleus of the self, deep within, in its own home; the Light of this Shabad pervades the three worlds. at this stage the lotus which is upside down in our nabhi will turn upright and we will begin to hear anhad shabad, drink amrit rass and see the jyot of Maharaj within our hirdha. this cannot be explained, only experienced. ਕਹਿਬੇ ਕਉ ਸੋਭਾ ਨਹੀ ਦੇਖਾ ਹੀ ਪਰਵਾਨੁ ॥੧੨੧॥ I cannot describe its sublime glory; it has to be seen to be appreciated. ||121|| Sikhi is practical. guru sahib never said trust in me and in death you shall see I was telling the truth as the prophets of other religions have said. guru sahib is saying do simran, and see it for yourself. to summarise: jaap begins out loud with our tongue it then goes quieter to whispering jaap is internalised with our breaths, turns to simran, mouth is closed, shabad is vibrating inside simran travles to nabhi, lotus is turned upright, tenth gate is opened, anhad shabad, amrit rass and jyot parkash.
  4. 4. bhai shingara singh ji. read about his amazing jeevan: https://www.gurmatbibek.com/contents.php?id=1849 1. looks like bhai jeevan singh ji singhni (cannot remember name) 8. looks like Bibi Bhupinder Kaur ji
  5. ਭਾਗਠੜੇ ਹਰਿ ਸੰਤ ਤੁਮੑਾਰੇ ਜਿਨੑ ਘਰਿ ਧਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਾ ॥ bhaagaThaRe har sa(n)t tum(h)aare jin(h) ghar dhan har naamaa || Your Saints are very fortunate; their homes are filled with the wealth of the Lord's Name. ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ਗਣੀ ਸੇਈ ਇਹ ਆਏ ਸਫਲ ਤਿਨਾ ਕੇ ਕਾਮਾ ॥੧॥ paravaan ganee seiee ieh aae safal tinaa ke kaamaa ||1|| Their birth is approved, and their actions are fruitful. ||1|| ਮੇਰੇ ਰਾਮ ਹਰਿ ਜਨ ਕੈ ਹਉ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਈ ॥ mere raam har jan kai hau bal jaiee || O my Lord, I am a sacrifice to the humble servants of the Lord. ਕੇਸਾ ਕਾ ਕਰਿ ਚਵਰੁ ਢੁਲਾਵਾ ਚਰਣ ਧੂੜਿ ਮੁਖਿ ਲਾਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ kesaa kaa kar chavar ddulaavaa charan dhooR mukh laiee ||1|| rahaau || I make my hair into a fan, and wave it over them; I apply the dust of their feet to my face. ||1||Pause||
  6. You don’t need to go to India to reach a high avastha, vaheguroo is within. Keep naam simran in your chit throughout the day as much as possible (Hirdha jaap), eventually (if not already) by reciting naam throughout the day, it will go to 24hours and that’s when you’ll experience the true bliss of anhad Shabad, Amrit rass etc. you’re at the very beginning stage of Simran where naam is beginning to activate. There are many dasam dwari Gurmukhs in the west, especially Canada, do ardas to guru sahib for naam rasiya di sangat and attend rainsbhais, that’s where many naam abhyasis meet up.
  7. AKJ does not believe that doing nitnem out loud is a must. I was told by panj (AKJ) that nitnem should be done aloud in the beginning stages, so the mind is focused; once surti is strong, nitnem is encouraged to do in surti, or bani read aloud, and surti should be engaged in Naam Simran simultaneously. OP guru Ji says Naam Simran should be done 24/7: ਮਃ ੪ ॥ Fourth Mehla: ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name. ਉਦਮੁ ਕਰੇ ਭਲਕੇ ਪਰਭਾਤੀ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵੈ ॥ Upon arising early in the morning, he is to bathe and cleanse himself in the pool of nectar. ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪੈ ਸਭਿ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਪਾਪ ਦੋਖ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਵੈ ॥ Following the Instructions of the Guru, he is to chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. All sins, misdeeds and negativity shall be erased. ਫਿਰਿ ਚੜੈ ਦਿਵਸੁ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵੈ ਬਹਦਿਆ ਉਠਦਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani; whether sitting down or standing up, he is to meditate on the Lord's Name. ਜੋ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਧਿਆਏ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ ॥ One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind. ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਦਇਆਲੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਮੇਰਾ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਗੁਰੂ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਸੁਣਾਵੈ ॥ That person, unto whom my Lord and Master are kind and compassionate - upon that GurSikh, the Guru's Teachings are bestowed. ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਧੂੜਿ ਮੰਗੈ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਕੀ ਜੋ ਆਪਿ ਜਪੈ ਅਵਰਹ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ ॥੨॥ Servant Nanak begs for the dust of the feet of that GurSikh, who himself chants the Naam, and inspires others to chant it. ||2|| Guru Raam Daas Ji in Raag Gauree - 305 The first pangti Maharaj tells us to jap Naam, then Maharaj says to have an ishnaan at Amritsar, then to jap naam sitting down. A big lesson is given here. guru sahib has mentioned three "different types of Simran": 1. upon waking up at amritvela, the moment your eyes open, you should start your Simran. 2. Maharaj then says to have an ishnaan at Amritsar. How can we have an ishnaan at Amritsar if we don't live near harmandir sahib? Maharaj has given us the blessing of having an ishnaan equivalent to that at Amritsar if were are japing Naam or reciting bani at the same time. Why is harmandir sahib Sarovar considered Amritsar? Because there is bani 24/7 there and the water absorbs that bani, in the same way, if we have ishnaan at amritvela while reciting Naam or bani, then Maharaj has told us that due to paras kalaa of Naam bani, the water will absorb naam. It will be as though you have had an Ishaan at Amritsar! Dhan Dhan Guru Raam Daas Ji! 3. then, to jap naam sitting down for at least two hours, all sins will be washed away. Then we will recite our nitnem at sunrise and continue to jap naam all day. Maharaj has mentioned Naam Simran 5 times in this Shabad; Naam Simran is that important. every ang mentions Naam in Guru Granth Sahib, every ang! Unfortunately, the panth has forgotten Naam Simran and are just happy to read their panj baniyan, lol. But to answer your question: yes, according to guru Raam daas Ji, you should. These amolak bachan were told to daas by panj pyaare.
  8. Tie your dastar or small keski around your waist, like a kamar kassa then put your kanga in it. Best to tuck kirpan into keski as well to stop it from dangling around. Putting kanga into gatra will make it much more prone to dropping. If you tie a keski around your waist and put kanga and kirpan in it, there will be a much less chance of beadbi
  9. Ask for forgiveness time and time again. Never forget what you did the next time you get angry.
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