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On 10/17/2022 at 6:05 PM, dallysingh101 said:

That's not entirely true, decades ago, it was common knowledge that the Taliban founder/headman Mullah Omar, held SIkhs in very high regard and had given them protected status. It was only after foreign jihadis came in (and Mullah Omar had to hide from US capture/execute parties) that Sikhs started to get seriously abused.  

No the exile of Sikhs from Afghanistan started in the late 90s, I remember that's when I started seeing them appear in bigger numbers in Southall. I also met a few of them who left Afghanistan in the 90s and they said life was terrible under the taliban. 

3 hours ago, BhForce said:

It is sad to see our people having to leave a place they had been living in for centuries. That was, ultimately, a result of US meddling.

As far as a "completely different religious and cultural country", why isn't that the US or UK? They're completely different from the Punjab, too.

It does go to show that we all need to know how to read, write and speak Punjabi. For the next generation of Sikhs in Mexico if they don't know English and you don't know Spanish, how will you communicate?

Obviously, Punjabi!

The Taliban was forcing Sikhs to leave well before the Americans invaded. 

On 2/25/2022 at 8:54 PM, Premi5 said:

 

Seem happy. Some might try to cross into the US?

 

 

 

That must be the end goal. If they're going to settle in Mexico they might as well just have gone to India. 

One punch can change a life. 

3 years is not enough for such life changing injuries. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/us/california-family-kidnapped.amp.html

So sad, he even killed the baby. 

And you had foodoo apne protesting against the CAA bill in India which supported such refugees. What a pathetic bunch. 

Please don't look for medical advice on forums like this. Go and see a doctor, and I mean a proper doctor, not some desi quack. 

On 9/29/2022 at 12:11 PM, Suchi said:

I am talking from personal experience. 

The Punjabis were working in factories mostly. Mostly from villages. 

Opening a shop is seen as marginally better. Plus being peaceful they made a positive impact on the perception of Indians generally. 

Gujjus were also better qualified and hence became accountants too. 

The fact that they came with nothing is not because they had nothing as most had huge assets in Africa which they were forced to leave behind. 

The fact is that the Kenyian economy virtually collapsed and they invited the Indians to return with a promise if their assets back. 

If they were forced into detention camps it was not their fault. 

 

 

Look, the same points you made about Gujarati Kenyans, I can say the same thing about Sikh/Punjabi Kenyans. They were more educated on average than immigrants direct from India. 

I worked with a Gujarati from India and he told me that Gujaratis are not known for being educated. 

Compare Gujaratis from Kenya to Punjabis from Kenya and also Gujaratis from India to Punjabis from India. 

It's sad but we really shouldn't be going to such countries, especially to southern American states like North Carolina. 

Can we really expect people to know the ins and outs about every religion and culture? 

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The muslims cannot really do much in Leicester so they picked an easy target in Birmingham. 

And they use what they are good at which is the numbers game. 

I wish there was a community that breeds at higher rates than the muslims so that when the muslims try to get their numbers that they get out-numbered by another community. 

As to your post that you mentioned about us Sikhs being outnumbered by mobs from other communities is that although we are quite a docile race, we have a knack of being extremely well organised and disciplined when the time comes and this bodes well when tackling an unruly mob particularly when being outnumbered. 

It's like some kind of dormant gene that gets activated.

You saw how quickly our community galvanised during 2011 riots, how quickly during the Kisaan protests.

Like MrrSingh said we are a walking contradiction. 

1947 is also an example. We were heavily outnumbered by muslims in Punjab but inflicted more damage on them than vice versa. Again it was them who started it. 

The muslims breed like rabbits but what they don't realise is how much poverty it causes them. 

8 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

One major factor for the Hindus are doing what they are doing in the UK is the political backing.

The Hindu political leadership in India is comprised of Gujjus and it is the Gujju diaspora that is spearheads in countries abroad. 

Even if we had this level of political backing, we Sikhs don't do what these two other communities do. 

We are wired differently.

Even if we were an overwhelming majority, we don't pick on other communities. 

But for some reason, these two other communities love to use their numbers. 

But as a neutral observer, it is interesting to see Muslims in the UK on the back foot. 

The Hindu lobby groups seem to have turned the tables on the Muslim lobby groups. 

The police and local authorities seem to protect Muslims but they look quite helpless. 

Muslim lobby groups seem to infiltrate systems from a lower level but the Hindu lobby groups seem to be excercise from a higher level.

So it seems to be top-down vs bottom-up.

 

 

 

From what happened last week it looked like the Hindus started it and the muslims ended up on top with what happened in Birmingham. 

You're right apne don't really bully minorities, we are racist though.

I can't blame the Hindus to some extent when it comes to suls. Their leadership let them down big time allowing huge amounts of suls to stay behind after partition. We've been fortunate to have an almost sul free Punjab, we only know what suls are like due to living next to them in the west. Punjab has the lowest percentage of suls in all of India.

Suls like to push the boat to see what they can get away with and when they go too far like they did in Myanmar recently, the majority community finally has enough and retaliate. If they were a community that kept their head down and worked hard no one would hate them but they just try to push their way of life on all of us. They have conflicts with every other religion. 

On 9/24/2022 at 9:06 AM, Ranjeet01 said:

What the Hindus have shown (They have decades of experience in India) is that when you stand toe to toe in mob violence with Muslims,  the muslims b1tch and scream and play victim.

When they cannot use their usual tactics and are unable to use their numbers, they capitulate very quickly. 

I think we are the very few communities that can exert extreme violence historically but we feel great aversion to go down to mob violence route. 

Though I am completely neutral in this Hindu -Muslim spat, it is an interesting case study.

The thing is that Hindus will only give it the large when in a significant majority and as soon as the numbers turn against them they pretty much give up. The only exception I've seen to this is the Tamil Hindus of Sri Lanka.

They also have appalling unity, did the Punjabi, Tamil, Nepali Hindus come to help the Gujaratis? Nope. Yet you had Arabs and Somalians helping the Indian muslims and Pakistanis. 

Sikhs historically have always been a minority in India and even greater Punjab so we are used to fighting when the numbers are against us. Just look at how we retaliated against the muslims of UP who heavily outnumber us when they tried to take our land. Even in Hyderabad Sikhs have fought against Muslims who make up a huge amount of the city. 

Just now, jkvlondon said:

are you quite sure , because its amazing how many apnay are marrying gujus and panjabi hindus  and seperating the next generation from sikhi

That's not due to grooming, its their own choice and from what I've seen it's more Gujarati girls marrying apne. 

On 9/11/2022 at 4:09 PM, Premi5 said:

Wonder if this was 'Islamophobic'

The suspect is from Chile, and is a footballer

 

So a South American mestizo attacks a Sikh priest. 

I've visited Los Angeles and New York and saw how racist and rude the Mexicans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans were. 

3 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

remember both parties have been grooming our children to convert them or dishonour them and openly have called on their numbers to do so . We are alone in our battles so protect our own and leave these wastes of space to kill each other or make their activities known without falling to apologism .

Here in the UK where this is happening it is just the suls doing such stuff. 

It makes my blood boil when I see apne support suls in such matters. 

37 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

At least he's not doing bhangra.

If it was a Royal Wedding he probably would. 

Why is there a full turbaned Sikh singing hymns during the funeral. He's dressed up properly as a Christian choir boy.