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Dil apna 'hindustani' stop diverting the topic from the real issues, and making silly debates.. OK now you have seen the video, and you know its beadbhi, what are you going to do about it? At the end of the day all you sohi supposrters are good at just diverting the attention from the real issues. The committe which is in power has allegations made against and by not answering to these, they are obv hiding something? why dont u for a change go and get the answer to the real factual issues which have been asked over and over..?

harjap u talking about sangat? sangat is guru's sangat, sadh sangat!! its not sohi's family and thugs... its not people who have been paid £25 to become members to vote for them.. its not people with fake addresses just udes to vote.. its not people who are dead and somehow still have a membership card... how can that be a fair election!!! so how mucch are you being paid to reply to this message.. LOL!!

Live up to your name 'Sewa' Singh. There has been no formal account of what has been spent where. You can't just yeah we spent 17 million on a gurdwara and thats it. Each memeber has a right to investigate the accounts of the gurdwara. But the sad fact is that they aren't allowed becasue the coimittee will not allow them to. No wants the election cancelled. They only want it suspended so that the membership which has been made can be investigated by an independent authority showing that all the members are eligible, and not with 10 people living in the same 1 bedroom flat. Use ur common sense you muppet! Also they want other issues clarified like why the comittee changed the constitution without asking anyone? for their own selfish motives? Taking the gurdwara to court is the last thing any sikh wants to do, but if thats the only way to get these gadhars out then so be it. Guru Sahb is ang sang! Sohi is the one who goes to party's at the indian high comission! I remeber 3/4 years ago at the election, he got a hindu pandit or something to come and sit in the gurdwara car park and do some pooja or wateva they do.. haha whats that all about. Someone should ask them if they running the correct institution. maybe they should stand for the mandir elections. LOL!!

Live up to your name 'Sewa' Singh. There has been no formal account of what has been spent where. You can't just yeah we spent 17 million on a gurdwara and thats it. Each memeber has a right to investigate the accounts of the gurdwara. But the sad fact is that they aren't allowed becasue the coimittee will not allow them to. No wants the election cancelled. They only want it suspended so that the membership which has been made can be investigated by an independent authority showing that all the members are eligible, and not with 10 people living in the same 1 bedroom flat. Use ur common sense you muppet! Also they want other issues clarified like why the comittee changed the constitution without asking anyone? for their own selfish motives? Taking the gurdwara to court is the last thing any sikh wants to do, but if thats the only way to get these gadhars out then so be it. Guru Sahb is ang sang! Sohi is the one who goes to party's at the indian high comission! I remeber 3/4 years ago at the election, he got a hindu pandit or something to come and sit in the gurdwara car park and do some pooja or wateva they do.. haha whats that all about. Someone should ask them if they running the correct institution. maybe they should stand for the mandir elections. LOL!!

The only reason why sohi apologised was coz the elections are coming up and wants votes. he is becoming like a dictator. why has he stayed in power all this time? coz him and his committee have always rigged the election process and never allowed a fair election to take place. in previous years when there werent any photo membership cards, they used to call down 100's of people down from north etc.. and give them fake membership cards on the day. I have myslef witnessed this. Since the photo ID cards have been used, sohi & co have been scrutinizing the membership themsleves and no allowed anyone from outside to see what they are doing. If its there pesron they wont even check ID, and if they know the person isnt gonna vote for them, they will make every excuse to not let them enroll even if they have the correct id. They pay random ppl £25 to become members and vote for them, for a membership which costs £5. Just look at the membership records! The list was scrutinized and some of the members that appear on the list dont even exist. Some are dead. Some dont live at the correct address. One example shows 10 members which live in a 1 bedroom flat? Now u tell me does that sounds right? Again I stress that this is not a personal attack against any individual. We dont really care what people do in the personal lives but when they start runnin sikhi instituions and using this for thier own selfish motives and not the interests of the sangat, thats what we have a problem with. These people need to be shown that th sangat is not gonna stand back and let them sell sikhi off in front of us. Our guru's gave their lives, their childrens lives, thier parents's lives, and everything they for the chardi kala of the panth! Yes, there shouldnt have been shouting and raving in the meeting on sunday, but when all else fails people need to voice their views. Malhi & co have been trying every other way possible for the past 5-6 years but the committee have not even tried to cooperate. And if youll believe that the only reason the indian gov brought canons was coz K.S. Mand told them then you'll believe anything.. LOL!! :nihungsmile:

The only reason why sohi apologised was coz the elections are coming up and wants votes. he is becoming like a dictator. why has he stayed in power all this time? coz him and his committee have always rigged the election process and never allowed a fair election to take place. in previous years when there werent any photo membership cards, they used to call down 100's of people down from north etc.. and give them fake membership cards on the day. I have myslef witnessed this. Since the photo ID cards have been used, sohi & co have been scrutinizing the membership themsleves and no allowed anyone from outside to see what they are doing. If its there pesron they wont even check ID, and if they know the person isnt gonna vote for them, they will make every excuse to not let them enroll even if they have the correct id. They pay random ppl £25 to become members and vote for them, for a membership which costs £5. Just look at the membership records! The list was scrutinized and some of the members that appear on the list dont even exist. Some are dead. Some dont live at the correct address. One example shows 10 members which live in a 1 bedroom flat? Now u tell me does that sounds right? Again I stress that this is not a personal attack against any individual. We dont really care what people do in the personal lives but when they start runnin sikhi instituions and using this for thier own selfish motives and not the interests of the sangat, thats what we have a problem with. These people need to be shown that th sangat is not gonna stand back and let them sell sikhi off in front of us. Our guru's gave their lives, their childrens lives, thier parents's lives, and everything they for the chardi kala of the panth! Yes, there shouldnt have been shouting and raving in the meeting on sunday, but when all else fails people need to voice their views. Malhi & co have been trying every other way possible for the past 5-6 years but the committee have not even tried to cooperate. and if u believe things like the only reason indian gov. brought canons coz K.S. Mand told them to then you'll belive anything. If thats true then prove it. LOL!! :nihungsmile:

The only reason why sohi apologised was coz the elections are coming up and wants votes. he is becoming like a dictator. why has he stayed in power all this time? coz him and his committee have always rigged the election process and never allowed a fair election to take place. in previous years when there werent any photo membership cards, they used to call down 100's of people down from north etc.. and give them fake membership cards on the day. I have myslef witnessed this. Since the photo ID cards have been used, sohi & co have been scrutinizing the membership themsleves and no allowed anyone from outside to see what they are doing. If its there pesron they wont even check ID, and if they know the person isnt gonna vote for them, they will make every excuse to not let them enroll even if they have the correct id. They pay random ppl £25 to become members and vote for them, for a membership which costs £5. Just look at the membership records! The list was scrutinized and some of the members that appear on the list dont even exist. Some are dead. Some dont live at the correct address. One example shows 10 members which live in a 1 bedroom flat? Now u tell me does that sounds right? Again I stress that this is not a personal attack against any individual. We dont really care what people do in the personal lives but when they start runnin sikhi instituions and using this for thier own selfish motives and not the interests of the sangat, thats what we have a problem with. These people need to be shown that th sangat is not gonna stand back and let them sell sikhi off in front of us. Our guru's gave their lives, their childrens lives, thier parents's lives, and everything they for the chardi kala of the panth! Yes, there shouldnt have been shouting and raving in the meeting on sunday, but when all else fails people need to voice their views. Malhi & co have been trying every other way possible for the past 5-6 years but the committee have not even tried to cooperate.

Harjap your lies aint gonna fool anyone. the fact of the matter is that sohi & co ran off because they cant answer any questions. Why dont you go yourslef and get a tender estimate on how much a similar buliding would cost to make, similar to that of havelock road. I bet u it wont be more than £10 mill at the most. So what the hell has sohi done spent £17/18 million. forget taking the gurdwara out of debt, he's put them in more debt than they could ever imagine. Whose gonna being paying off the debts for the next 30 years?. Malhi lot dont want to take the credit of whats been done, coz their is no credit to take. LOL!! And more so, the company that built the gurdwara has gone bankrupt. just a bit of a coincidence dont you think?

as i sed before harjap get a life. your lies aint gonna fool anyone. the fact of the matter is that sohi & co ran off because they cant answer any questions. Why dont you go yourslef and get a tender estimate on how much a similar buliding would cost to make, similar to that of havelock road. I bet u it wont be more than £10 mill at the most. So what the hell has sohi done spent £17/18 million. forget taking the gurdwara out of debt, he's put them in more debt than they could ever imagine. Whose gonna being paying off the debts for the next 30 years?. Malhi lot dont want to take the credit of whats been done, coz their is no credit to take. LOL!! And more so, the company that built the gurdwara has gone bankrupt. just a bit of a coincidence dont you think?

At the end of the day if sohi's comittee had allowed the AGM to be conducted in a proper manner, maybe things wouldn't have turned out the way they did. They are supposed to be running the managment of the committee and they cant even do that properly. Instead they cant face the truth and have to go up and hide. If they were fair they would have given the opposition time to voice thier views, which they are fully entitled to.

Harjap, get a life! Sohi & co couldnt face the sangat so they took all the mics and went upstairs to the office and locked the doors. How many times can we let these ppl dop beadbi of sikhi. I am not sure if the elections will even take place next week, because the constituiion states that there MUST be an AGM meeting before the elections. But i doubt they can call what happened yesterday a proper meeting. Why doesn't sohi let anyone speak? why does he run away when questioned? why haven't the committee answered questions posed by members regarding accounts, building funds, managment issues ? Why have they changed the constitution of one of the biggest sikh orgainsations outside india without consulting anyone? for their own hidden agenda? what have they to hide? why did they need to spend millions of extra ££s on the gurdwara which they didnt need to? and fyi, sohi didnt save the gurdwara from bankruptcy, guru sahib did! One of my friends went to the gurdwara during the mebership period and was offered £25 to become a member by the comittee for a membership which costs £5, simply shows you how low they can go to win..

I agree, there is no acccount where the sangats money that was spent on this project is going. How convinient it is that the company which undertook the project went bankrupt? So obviously where are they gonna get guarantees from? Hmmm... Sohi lot are bunch of jokers and need to be kicked out! In addition a project of similar scale, and with better facilities that havelock road is currently being built in half the amount that was spent in southall.. why? where did the money go? Noone knows..

BTW just FYI Malhi is not even standing, he is only supporting the opposition group to get sohi and party out!

People who are doing so much beadbi of the kaum, you think they will listen to Akal Takht?? Any resolution or change to constitution must be passed by the general body at a General body meeting. The original constitution of the gurdwara states that no commitee member is allowed to consume, touch or sell tobacco or alcohol. About 7-8 years back the committee tried to change the constituion to state that the committee members can sell and touch. In protest 8 members of the executive commitee then resigned. Between that time and now, the comittee still on their own accord WITHOUT takling the general body into consideration changed the constituion. This is a direct violation of the constituion and the sikh tenets. This was only found out recently when the opposition party asked for a copy of the constituion and were refused. They then approached the charity commission to get a copy, which they did. The charity commission also confirmed that the constituion was changed without their knowledge and the thte original one should still stand. This shows how low they can go to progress thier own selfish interests, and not those of the sikh community. How can they be allowed to continue to run the gurdwara? Furthermore the only reason they suspeded the membership for some members was so that they cannot runn for elections and oppose their selfish interests. This is not a personal battle, but anyone that overides the tenents of sikhi must not be allowed to manage such an instituion.

No 51 people aren't running the gurdwwara, thats just the nominees for elections. Those people on the list will be split into 2 parties of 21 members each, for who the members will vote.

THIS CURRENT COMMITEE IS A JOKE! SOHI HAS BEEN IN POWER FOR 5 TERMS OR MORE AND WHAT HAS HE DONE...?? HE HAS DONE MORE DAMAGE THAN GOOD FOR SIKHI! ITS TIME HE WAS KICKED OUT! AND NOW IS A BETTER TIME THAN ANY TO TAKE ACTION! LETS ALL TAKE TIME TO GO TO THE ELECTIONS AND GENERAL BODY MEETING TO SHOW THESE JOKERS THAT WE ARE NOT GOIN TO STAND BACK AND LET THEM MAKE A MOCKERY OF SIKHS. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT SIKHI, ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS HOW MUCH MONEY COMES IN AND GOES INTO THEIR POCKETS. LETS ALL GET TOGETHER AND VOTE THEM OUT!!! VOTE FOR MALHI GROUP! OUT WITH SOHI!!!!

Its not working!

No I dont think Manpreet Singh taught Jagpal Singh, but their styles are somewhat similar.

Point Taken, but I dont think Malhi will be standing. I think we should all become members, so we at least have the option of having a say. Sohi has been around for yonks and claims that the gurdwara is his and no one an throw him out. We definately dont need people like him. I would rather have anyone than him. We cant let people like him keep making a fool of sikhi. Him and his party are bunch of idiots.

Got this in an email: Memebership Open until 6th August!! --------------------------------------------------------------- SRI GURU SINGH SABHA – Southall – Appeal to the Sikh Community TRAIL of DECEIT, LIES and VIOLENCE Betrayal of Sikh values and Robbery of SIKH assets. Membership Now Open: 10am to 1pm 4pm to 8pm Venue: Park Avenue Gurdwara, Southall, Middx. ID needed: 1 with photo e.g Passport, Driving Licence or 2004 Gurdwara card or a photo signed by doctor , bank manager,etc. + one proof of address e.g recent letter, bank statement, bill ( not mobile) PLEASE BECOME MEMBERS OF SRI GURU SINGH SABHA – SOUTHALL. WHY: READ BELOW A group of members of this Sabha raised written concerns of malpractices and procedural improprietory conduct of the out going (2004) executive committee to gain unfair advantage over others in the conduct of issuing membership and elections and other grave irresponsible behaviour and non existence of very important information and documents or controls in the course of managing the affairs of the Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Southall- A Sikh public institution having £3 MILLION annual income. THEIR REPLY: ‘ your concerns are only of a general nature’ Upon further pressure the ‘Trustees’ invited two representatives of these members to a meeting with them, the General Secretary, Mr GARCHA and The President, Mr SOHI to discuss their grievances. This meeting was attended, in good faith, by two of the enquirers, as mutually arranged and agreed at 5pm FRIDAY 24th September 04, but on arrival at Park Avenue Gurdwara offices, the enquirers were was told that the meeting CANNOT take place, even though Committee heads, Mr SOHI and Dr GARCHA, plus TWO TRUSTEES, Mr AS Sevak and Mr SS Bilga, were present as agreed by both sides. The heads of the temple said that they were not willing to talk to anyone on the issues raised, even though the agenda, for this meeting, had been agreed with them 2 days earlier. The enquires, however, persisted to put some questions to the president and the general secretary, Messrs Sohi, Garcha: Q. The CONSTITUTION states that the 2nd AGM should be in AUGUST? Their Reply: ‘We arranged it as we saw fit’ 1 2 Q. In the UK a person can get a passport, Driving Licence and arrange virtually all their affairs by post or the Internet. Many Sikhs who want to be members of this Sikh temple cannot travel because of sickness, disability or lack of transport. Why do you not offer postal membership applications? Answer. We decide how a person becomes a member. Q. Why do you not allow people to become members all the year round? A. Why should we? Q. Why do you make difficult for people to join as members, is it so that you can engineer the election results in your favour? A. We don’t know what you mean? Q. Your decision is discriminatory and limits the number of members that can join and this gives your illegitimate votes and family votes a greater percentage of total so that you can win the elections and keep control of Gurdwara money. Is this why you do this? A. No answer. Q. WHY have you arranged the AGM 5DAYS before the ELECTION, when it should be 42 days before? Their Reply: ‘ we arranged it as we saw fit’ Q. Do you accept your duty to inform the SANGAT of all the affairs of Sri Guru Singh Sabha? Reply: ‘ we do as we see fit’ Q. Do you not think that the SANGAT (temple congregation) needs time to assess your performance on the ‘facts’ that you present in the AGM? Reply: as above. Q. This mounts to a deliberate deception of the Sikh Sangat, does it not? A. That’s your opinion Q. As per the CONSTITUTION The AGM scheduled for 26th September 04 is ILLEGAL as upon declaration of Election which should be in AUGUST AGM the Executive committee should be dissolved. Is it not your responsibility to abide by the law? Reply: ‘Its irrelevant, we do as we see fit and there is nothing you can do to stop us doing as we please, we do not want to talk to you any more’ Please note that the usual opposition group to the sitting committee had boycotted the election process due to the unfairness and cheating practiced by the later. On 26th September 04 about 10 members of the Gurdwara held a peaceful boycott of the illegal AGM outside the Park Avenue Gurdwara and were distributing leaflets outlining matters of concerns about management of the Gurdwara and demanding fair and just democratic process to choose the people to manage the temple. The temple president,SOHI, his brother and two sons, in full view of his committee members and other Sikhs numbering over 200, attacked the peaceful protestors causing serious injury to them and 4/5 persons required hospital treatment. Serious threats of more violence were made against anyone who dared to question the president and his CONTROL of the Sikh Temple. (Park Avenue and Havelock Road SOUTHALL) The aggressors all lied in court under oath to the Gurbani and they got their paid cronies and relatives to come and do the same. No committee member, even having seen everything, gave witness statements to police or court – is this an example of Sikh gallantry? NO, It’s shameful. One Committee member later gave written and signed account of seeing the president of the temple, his brother and sons attacking, hitting and kicking the peaceful protestors: He later refused to say this in court (His written statement is available but due to evidence laws it could not be produced in court hearing) 3 Mr SS Sangha gave witness statement in favour of Himat Sohi, the president and main person accused. It should be noted that Mr Sangha did not respond to any police appeals for witnesses or appeals in Punjabi papers by the victims. At the trial 15 months after the incident and after all prosecution witness statements, Mr Sangha suddenly and miraculously remembers incident details and his duty to give evidence. Mr Sangha is a Justice of Peace (JP) fully aware of his duties to help the law. His statement was utter lies given on oath to the Sikh Scriptures. PLEASE NOTE Mr SANGHA was, and still is, engaged, by the committee, as a consultant to the Gurdwara and is a paid cash benefit ranging £2000 t0 £4000 per month. Therefore he was fully aware of the police and other appeals for witnesses as he claims to have seen everything. He must have seen Police attending the disturbances and knew of the Police investigations into the incident. In his statement he does not declare any conflict of interest or vested interests. IS THIS AN ENGINEERED ACTIVITY TO UNDERMINE THE CASE OF TRUTH. CCTV system recording was destroyed. Dr Garcha lied to police that system was out of order (Letter of proof from the claimed maintenance company available but not admissible in court as writer was unwilling to appear at court). Dr Garcha claims to be neutral in this matter? Criminals got away scot-free!!!!!!!!!!!!. Their victims and their witnesses were ridiculed and later expelled from the membership of the temple and remain expelled to this day. This is an evil manipulation of the situation to avoid the opposition and their questions. The expulsions were timed a day before the 2005 AGM and after questions of the deceptive methods of the committee were again submitted in writing to be raised at the AGM. Dr Garcha and the so-called ‘independent’ committee of the Temple took this action without referring it to the General Body as required by the Constitution. The president claims he had no input in it? It is worth noting that elections are now due again. Is this Sikh justice and democracy in a place of worship? Dear Sangat Ji: We beg you to think of these questions: Is this the message we want to give to our children? Flout the law in a place of worship and then lie on oath to its Scriptures to escape punishment? Be too scared to give witness to the truth? IS THIS WHAT Today’s SIKHISM STANDS FOR – Hypocrisy and cowardice? Remember all the sacrifices given by our Guru’s and forefathers to stand with the truth. Are we true to their teachings? Do we want? 1. Violent and ruthless people looking after our places of worship? 2. People with business deceit judgements against them, controlling and managing Millions of pounds of public money. 3. Criminals who use violence, and then pay cronies and family members to lie in courts and cast illegal votes managing the Sikh places of worship. 4. People who could not be brave enough to perform their Sikh and citizen duty of offering to witness crimes they actually saw, despite Police appeals, to be representing Sikh interests. 4 Record has shown, over and over again, criminal minds will bring disrepute to our community and do irreparable damage to our Sikh core values of honesty and integrity and many other human qualities preached by our Gurus. The values cherished by all civilised societies around the world. PLEASE THINK AND MAKE YOUR CHOICE OF RIGHT AND WRONG, as we are all accountable for our decisions, actions or inactions. As Sikhs this is our duty. Please MAKE a CHANGE before these hypocrites become PERMANENT CONTROLLERS and KEEPERS OF SIKH PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, built with your hard earned money. Our children will rightly curse us, if we don’t. For example: New Gurdwara building account was not given until pressure from us and then project costs are given as £13Million approx and the total project costs are given as nearly £19MILLION. It came to our knowledge that £4MILLION was paid in professional fees alone. This 30% of project building costs and 3 TIME MORE THAN Royal Chartered Surveyors guidelines on fees of similar projects. The reasons and final destination of the money is not being revealed. YOU CAN FIND OUT BY BECOMING MEMBERS, I AM NO LONGER ENTITLED TO ASK QUESTIONS. Please ask: Who are these ‘professionals’ that your money was paid to and what for? What safe guards were in place to control abuse and malpractice in appointment of them and controls on their costs? Why detailed accounts are not available even after so many years of completion of Gurdwara? Why Sangats is being denied their right to know and have independent audit? We undertake to pay the cost of Forensic Accountants to do an INDEPENDENT AUDIT to satisfy the Sangat. What justification is there for a decision to build this Monumental Gurdwara with so few extra facilities than the old building and yet costing nearly £19MILLION. It is more of a showpiece and ego gratification of the management than serving Sangat. High Cost of having functions – marriages, etc, makes it a Gurdwara just for the rich and ignores the acute needs of the local working class Sikh Sangat. Unwise and inappropriate decision by few but whole Sangat is liable for costs. Why is the Sangat being kept in the dark and not included in the decision making process? Sikh way is that the Sangat should decide and managements should serve as SEVADARS (servants). This Gurdwara building does not fit the needs of the local community, it was conceived as a ego gratification of the committee members. SANGAT OWNS THE GURDWARA AND OTHER ASSETS OF SRI GURU SINGH SABHA- SOUTHALL: LET SANGAT KNOW AND DECIDE and end Illegal votes, ARROGANCE of office holders, DECEPTION & LIES, INTIMIDATION & VIOLENCE, Only increased membership’s participation can bring changes to produce TRUTHFULL and HUMBLE SEVADARS 5 Present committee has no answers: our 30 odd letters remain unanswered over the last 3 years dealing with: TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY that is the right of the SANGAT. Information to membership: nil We wonder why certain important information is only detectable by looking at two different notice boards some distance apart? Is it to CONFUSE PEOPLE? Why notice of meetings are not properly sent to members. Other Gurdwaras post them. Why member’s questions/queries are not answered in meetings? Why the executive refuses to answer legitimate questions from the membership? Constitution, Meetings and Elections Clause 16 of the CONSTITUTION: Retires the outgoing executive members in the regular AGM that should be in AUGUST and election date should be announced to be held after 42 days of announcement. No AGM should be called during this other than voting. Membership should be allotted after august AGM in the month of September. Why supervision of membership process is exclusively under the control of the outgoing executive? This is illegal. All parties have a right to be involved and oversee the membership process with the outgoing Gen Secretary having overall administrative control. Any meetings after this AUGUST AGM are illegal and the last sentence of Clause 17 is invalid. When was this added and why? WHY is the 2nd regular AGMs always held in last week of September and ONLY I week prior to election date? THIS IS AN ABUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION More questions need answers: Unconstitutional and Illegal Votes? Recent survey of 800 votes revealed 80 illegal votes. The committee has complete control – why do they not let opposition parties also participate in the process? AMENDMENTS to CONSTITUTION? What, when and why and without General Body approval? Why no accountability is available without expensive and unnecessary legal actions. ELECTIONS: Methods, Timing, and Fairness. ALL CLOSED SHOP ACTIVITY. Why all groups are not allowed to have equal role in supervision of these? Limit length of term in office to enhance more accountability and opportunity for new sevadars. WHY and how THIS LIMIT was DELETED FROM THE CONSTITUTION? EXPULSION OF MEMBERS: why has the constitution been changed to give all power to committee? Membership: why people are not encouraged to become members but it is made difficult with limited time windows and cumbersome procedures. WHY NO POSTAL MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION ARE POSSIBLE at any time of the year? 6 THE ANSWER IS: LESS MEMBERS MEAN GREATER POSSIBILITY OF WINNING THE BALLOT with the help of family and illegitimate votes to keep control of Sikh assets. Become a member and help to give true democracy a chance. Other issues 2 Procedures and Bye Laws: There is very little written down which leads to ambiguity and suspicion as the Sangat experiences conflicting set of arbitrary decisions. Employees v SEVADAR culture: More and more engagement of employees erodes the principles of seva in the Sikh way of life and has a negative affect on our faith. Management should encourage seva activities not negate them with paid employees. SIKH GURDWARA BELONGS TO THE SANGAT. Then why do we not encourage Sangat’s prominent role in decision making and running its affairs? The present committee headed by Sohi is guilty of manipulating the rules for political benefit and changing the Constitution without approval from the General Body. This is unlawful and shameful for a Sikh place of worship. NB: on 16th July 2006 at about 5am the OPPOSITION campaign offices at Monsoon Banqeting Suites were burgled. It should be noted that: Nothing of value was taken, No money was taken, and CCTV camera recording shows the culprit clearly going through the desk draws looking for papers and documents. Opposition group has many sworn statesment from people alleging malpractices and harassment during membership application process. Naturally, given the past threats and actual violence, we wonder if it’s connected to the Gurdwara politics????????????

On now!! :T:

Sant Anoop Singh Ji & Jatha will be arriving in UK this weekend. On Saturday 20th May, their programs will be: 6/6.15pm - 7pm at Gurdwara Guru Nanak Nishkam Sewak Jatha (UK), 142 Martindale Road, Hounslow. Middx. TW4 7HQ 7.30pm - 8.15pm at Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Park Ave, Southall. 9.15pm - 10.15pm at Sikh Sangat Gurdwara Leyton E10 San Fransisco Rd :nihungsmile: