MAX

This Shabad is by Guru Tegh Bahaadur Ji in Raag Dayv Gandhaaree on Ang 536 of SGGS ji:

<> siqgur pRswid ]

ik oa(n)kaar sathigur prasaadh

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

rwgu dyvgMDwrI mhlw 9 ]

raag dhaevaga(n)dhhaaree mehalaa 9

Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree, Ninth Mehla:

Xh mnu nYk n kihE krY ]

yeh man naik n kehiou karai

This mind does not follow my advice one tiny bit.

sIK isKwie rihE ApnI sI durmiq qy n trY ]1] rhwau ]

seekh sikhaae rehiou apanee see dhuramath thae n ttarai 1 rehaao

I am so tired of giving it instructions - it will not refrain from its evil-mindedness. 1Pause

mid mwieAw kY BieE bwvro hir jsu nih aucrY ]

madh maaeiaa kai bhaeiou baavaro har jas nehi oucharai

It has gone insane with the intoxication of Maya; it does not chant the Lord's Praise.

kir prpMcu jgq kau fhkY Apno audru BrY ]1]

kar parapa(n)ch jagath ko ddehakai apano oudhar bharai 1

Practicing deception, it tries to cheat the world, and so it fills its belly. 1

suAwn pUC ijau hoie n sUDo kihE n kwn DrY ]

suaan pooshh jio hoe n soodhho kehiou n kaan dhharai

Like a dog's tail, it cannot be straightened; it will not listen to what I tell it.

khu nwnk Bju rwm nwm inq jw qy kwju srY ]2]1]

kahu naanak bhaj raam naam nith jaa thae kaaj sarai 21

Says Nanak, vibrate forever the Name of the Lord, and all your affairs shall be adjusted. 21

Excellent passage. Yes, this is how we should all be thinking; constantly meditating, constantly reflecting. The line between miri and piri is a thin one, indeed...and it must be walked with the greatest of care and the utmost scrutiny.

Questioning oneself is the hardest thing to do. But like all the most difficult endeavours in life, its rewards are the greatest.

Wasn't trying to imply anti-muslim violence is okay, that's not a characteristic of the khasla. Khalsa is nirvair.

But I think all the sweet talk and peace talk breaks down the minute some thugs grab you at the intersection or outside of the gas station. Then only your kirpan is going to help, and it better be sharp and you better know how to best use it.

Personal safety is the responsibilty of each person, no matter where you live. "Educating" doesn't always help. There are plenty of haters who know full well who we are and still they detest our presence.

There's a reason Guru Gobind Singh ji compares an unarmed Sikh to a sheep.

With the saint qualities that Sikhi offeres, it's very unlikey for a khalsa to start battering random white people with his baseball bat or randomly start stabbing every white guy that looks suspicious..lol

Anyway, if you don't like the idea of having weapons within reach, then it's your choice. For me, I've decided it's time to start listening a bit more to Dashmesh.

Become armed and ready khalsa ji!

Can't we use mace spray instead? It's cheaper, non-lethal, easier to use...and comes in nifty pocket-size shapes

Ive had an old man foaming in the mouth wanting to fight me at a red light as he got out of his car and knocked on my window and I asked them what his problem was and he laughed{all evil} and pointed to his head implementing my turban. All I did was stay there calm and while sitting in the car I put another turban on and he didnt know what to do while standing out in the middle of the street with 20-30 cars all around and the green light came on so he ran back to his car and drove off.

He wanted me to do somrthing so it looked like I did something first on the news/media to give Sikhs a bad name.

Now that I think of this I want to buy pepper spray just in case this happens while Im out of the car. Ill let them hit me and then Ill mace them . It will be lawfull and shows that I didnt want to take anger out on him but just stop what he was doing. I wouldnt have wanted to fight but he would give me no choice but to stop the problem. Then to the police I wouldnt look agressive at all.

This is just one incident. I would never cut my hair for jack @$$e$ like this, and will wear my turban with more honour :e:

Love Sikhi and dont care for what the public opinion is and youll be a happy Sikh of the Guru.

I bow to the Shabad Guru

Ah, a fellow fan of 'The Way Of The Intercepting Mace'

Yes, I think you've definitely got the right idea, and your clarity of thought and maintainence of discipline under pressure is admirable and down-right exemplary. Good on ya :TH:

P.S. - I love all the pictures...and a kid that cute has got to be illegal

Or you could just buy a t-shirt saying im a Sikh not a Muslim

POST OF THE DAY!!

Sat Sri Akal:

The following five K's are the mark of Sikhi.These five can never be parted from the body. Kara, Kirpan, Kashera, Kangha, recognise these as four of them.The fifth is Kesh, without which the other four are useless. There are also four H's which must be avoided. Understand this without any doubt, no lies have been told. Hukka, taking tobacco (including any other type of intoxicants). Hajamat, removing of hair. Halalo, eating meat. Haram, adultery (sexual relationships outside of marriage). These are the four H's. Dyeing of beards (including any other body hair), and the wearing of mehndi (including other types of make up) are strictly forbidden. (Sri Dasam Granth)

(Gurmukhi version is at: http://www.damdamitaksal.com/lit_basicsfivek.htm ).

I believe that the words speak for themselves.

Thanks for the link, dude.

Just to quote the thing about the kirpan:

Okay, I think there's a difference between "never" and "never". Assuming that a Khalsa in 17th century India, where he nor she was ever truly safe (we were commanding guerilla-type warfare at the time) was the environment in which they were living is sightly different from today. It was designed as a mode of security and a form of honourable living. But removing a kirpan temporarily whilst in the sky - where the safety and peace of mind of every passenger is supposed to be the number one priority (there are security personnel travelling in disguise on flights) - I'm sure that Guru-ji would know that there would be nothing wrong with this. I don't think that international commercial airliners were even a dream 300 years ago, were they?

Theres a simple procedure i follow:

1. Ardaas (ask for ability to remain steadfast and shastardhari)

2. 5 Chaupai Saahibs (for protection)

3. 5 Japji Sahibs (ability to remain Guroo Saahibs sevak)

4. Ardaas (for protection and ability to be Guroo Saahibs sevak and for the Bani recited)

5. Final Chaupai Saahib as I walk through metal dectectors.

Hm. For a God that is supposed to have no correlation to human interested linked with fear and emnity and is One with everything including us (ref Mool Mantra, of course), there's an awful lot of 'asking' and a willingness to be 'protected' going on, isn't there?

Since recieving Amrit I have been blessed with the ability to board an aircraft without having to remove my kakaar.

Yeah. What page of the Dassam Granth was that line on again...? :mellow:

Like I said, its about shardaa and having faith that Maharaj will take care of everything....

wjkkwjkp!

Yeah. I have "faith that Maharaj will take care of everything", and that he has given me a mind to allow me to ensure that this is precisely what happens :TH:

The seduction of attachment, the opiate of ego and the deceitful weapon of rage are three of the Five Thieves that has the power to turn the Khalsa from an Army For Humanity into an Army Against Humanity. Such is the power of dogma, it is a sword that can be used for great good or tremendous evil.

May the Khalsa Panth be endowed with the spirit of God to overcome these temptations of maya; illusions that become more sophisticated to battle their enemies of sincerity and virtue.

I'm getting a feeling these days that our (Sikhs') safety is going downhill. More hatered seems to be brewing just below the surface. Seems each time some muslim does something wrong, we gotta face a wave of angry looks and violence, even from people who know we're not muslims!

Khalsa ji, we stick out from the crowd. To the haters, a Singh is like a sheep. Easily spotted and easy to take down. That's why Singhs gotta be armed and be Lions and not sheep. Without weapons on us, we are sheep.

Arm yourselves. Keep a good sharpened kirpan on you. Keep a rod under our car seat. Keep a baseball bat in your trunk. Keep some sticks or soemthing within reach in your homes.

Maybe i'm just paranoid, but I'm gettingt his feeling in the pit of my stomach that things are turning bad, slowly but surely.

This situation is too complicated to be sorted out with the lack of understanding and brutality that comes with wielding a sword or baseball bat. Not to mention the fact that it would be okay to attack Muslims is implied in your sentiments.

The ignorant do not understand what a Khalsa is, perceiving him or her as a threat. They do not understand that it is the duty of the Khalsa to protect them. Due to their own lack of knowledge, they misunderstand who the Khalsa are, confusing the people who should be their saviours for the people who are a threat to them and their families.

Instead of countering hooliganism and barbarism with...more hooliganism and barbarism, perhaps we should consider educating those who do not understand. Sikkh authorities can encourage the governments of Western countries to educate school children about such things.

The sword is only just to be used when all other means have been extinguished.

In an age where the reign of democracy, the power of the ballot, and the ideology of secularism and globalisation are the dominant underpinnings of society, we must realise that this is the dream state - the 'Khalistan' - that the Gurus would have wanted. Our duty is to nourish it. And the fact that this state now exists means that the use of the sword can finally hope to be relegated to a position where it may never need to be used again.

I don't wish to comment on the topic at hand (I'm sure we can all do with one less opinion in this beehive of potentially volatile self-expression... ), but I will say that these types of reflective and insightfuly posts that are made with open minds and pure hearts are what gives me inner encouragement that the philosophy of Guru Nanak Dev Ji is on the verge of being rediscovered and reborn in a way that is more pure and untainted than it has been in almost three centuries; a way that will allow it to fit into and accomodate the modern world in the perfect unison that it deserves to.

Rock on.

VJKK, VJKF!

no no, do ardas and eat it.....

Um...okay. And what purpose does dong ardaas serve?

Uh Max...

Ever heard of box cutters?

Sometimes, more than a little common sense can go a longer way.

Haha...no, you're absolutely right

The idea that butane lighters are still allowed to go on board, etc due to not wanting to tarnish relations with tobacco companies @ But this is a very awkward situation, unless of course we can find a way to edicate everyone in the Western world about precisely what a Khalsa is? We can't blame them if they are scared out of their wits at seeing what they believe to be a theratening person. They're ignorant - of course they are. But we should be doing something to remedy that situation instead of stomping our feet going "no, no, it's not fair!".

Until the other 99% of passengers on board can feel safe (and we all know what 9/11 has done for peoples' paranoia about safety in the air...), I think that the Khalsa have a responsibility to ensure that the human beings whom they are supposed to protect actually feel safe.

Terrorist George:

Hey Bob we could get past security issues by breaking a glass liquor bottle and using it as a weapon.

Terrorist Bob:

No George, can’t do. I saw a post by Max once saying that a glass bottle is not designed to be a weapon of combat with the ability to kill so it would be unfair to surprise people.

Terrorist George:

Bottle?

Sword?

Which one do you think people would feel more threatened by?

Sat Sri Akal:

Mr. MAX, you may want to check the date on the Nirmalas being sent to Benares...cause me thinks it was before the Khalsa was founded and hence, the requirements of the Kirpan were not yet mandated to the Sikhs (Sikh Encyclopedia states this was between 1685-1688, before 1699).

Ah, okay, thanks for the chronology :TH:

I was wondering if there were passages in the Dassam Granth you could point me towards concerning the 5Ks? Much appreciated.

P.S.

I'm sure that Guru Gobind Singh Ji - a very, very practical and reasonable man - would not deprive his Sikkhs of such facilities in today's world over something like temporarily placing down a weapon. Either we make an effor to educate people about this or we stop complaining that people shouldn't feel threatened when seeing a man or a woman carrying a weapon on their waste who - to them - looks just like an Islamic terrorist.

gurfateh ji

u cud wrap your kirpan in your beard like my friend does it works!!!!haha :T: (bt u gta have a long beard obviously)

Dude, you just made my day

We are responsible for both miri and piri. One without the other is to live an unbalanced life. Work, duty, and politics are a part of the world of miri.

But politics without ethics is dangerous. No man or woman can enter the political arena and think that they can serve their duty when fuelled by the Five Thieves or lacking in the Five Virtues.

Where did you get this Nirmala story? What's the source? Do you really think Guru Sahib would tell his Singhs to give up their rehits and worship the Hindu way just to get Hindu education? Maybe you should use some of that "common sense" you talk about.

Like you said; it's the "Nirmala story". Of course, I don't think that their insistence on turning it into a completely new sect was the right choice (people will follow almost anything, won't they? ), but the moral behind the story of understanding that humility and respect are not beyond anyone; least of all the Khalsa who are supposed to have suppressed the demon of ego and embrace the virtue of being humble.

As for your kirpan argument: I've heard this stuff from anti-Kirpan people but first time I'm hearing it from a Sikh. That's what the anti-Kirpan side was arguing in the Supreme Court of Canada case, that the kirpan is a weapon. Anything can be a weapon. The kirpan is an article of faith. The ban on the kirpan makes no sense. What damage can a small 4" kirpan do that a bottle or rock or some other object can't do? Mayybe you can justify a ban on 3ft kirpans, but a total ban on any size is not justifiable.

Being a Sikkh isn't supposed to make me closed minded and bound by illogical dogma; it is supposed to set me free and allow me to think with clarity and insight. And doing this does not somehow make me "anti-kirpan". Calling me that is just...rude

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AIRPORT DUDE

Uh...I'm sorry sir, but blades aren't allowed on board.

PASSANGER

Oh no, it's okay. You see, I'm a Sikkh.

AIRPORT DUDE

(flicks through regulations)

Ah, okay, yeah. You're a Sikkh, huh? Yeah, you can come on board.

PASSENGER

Hehehe...what a gullible <banned word filter activated>. He actually bought that "I'm a Sikkh" line.

Now to have some fun...

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I'm sure I don't have to make the security loophole any more evident.

At any rate, it is a dhill to remove kirpans or any other kakaars. Like I said, perhaps Guru Sahib forgives it with ardaas, but it doesn't make it OK.

"Guru sahib forgives it with ardaas"? What are we; Chrisitans who believe that murder is cool as long as you go to confessions? No such magic is promoted in Gurbani, I'm afraid. Virtue comes from what you do...not what you wear. To idolise these fabrics and metals of maya in such a way is to forget the central concept of 'Ek Onkar'.

Sikkhism was not designed as an excuse to trade one form of dogma for another :TH:

I am not a sikh

Well I would like to finally clear up a few things that have been on my mind for quite some time. Recently, a fellow user at sikhsangat.com has raised an important question. Well I won’t reveal who it is, but I will say it did make me think for a moment.

So who am I? well first off my name is Darcy Starr, my age is 20 and I have been practicing the sikhi lifestyle for just over 11 months now. It’s always difficult to explain how I got into sikhi, as it wasn’t a difficult or elaborate way how I entered into this path. There was no vision, or dream, nor was there a voice talking to me or sudden realization. Instead it was a series of events in my life that made me find this path, but I don’t think it was by accident.

So now today, I am writing something different from the usual dull posts (LOL).

I am not a sikh. Yet still a sikh… I still find it difficult to come to terms with this reality. Nearly every time I post on a forum like siksangat.com, I get the feeling as if I’m not in the right position to be giving advice nor talking about guru ji. Yet there is a feeling of desperate need to post and help other to the best of my ability. I’m still not amritdari, due to the feeling deep inside me that I’m not ready no deserve it…

So post are still made, and now I finally realize that what I have been told in the beginning have been all lies… why do people tell me that I’m not sikh? Why do people talk behind my back? Why are my friends are treated badly for trying to be sikh? Why is it everywhere we go, we create more enemies? It’s all because I have been told by myself that I should not take other peoples advice and that I should just pretend that I can tell others what is good.

I finaly realize that some of my posts in the past have damaged people and have offended some people. I cannot take back my early days in sikhi, I can’t go back in time.

So now what… if I’m not sikhi because I’m not amritdari. What am I really?

I feel lost now, I want to help others, but feel in need of help myself… but with no firnds or others who understand me… how do I break this cycle…

Have I really come this low in my life?

i don't expect people to understand my posts sometimes, as they are out of my twisted mind...

I have met so many people - so...many...people - who claim to know 'the truth'. Everywhere you go, there is someone offering you 'the truth'. Or their version of the truth. Of course, the truth has no 'versions'. There is only ever one truth. And yet there exist people who will swear on the graves of their ancestors that their truth is the right one. It isn't necessarily rooted in logic. Heck, if we get enough people together, we can start believing in castles in the sky

So, in this mad dash in the search for existentialism, one must ask the question; not "what is the Truth?" but more importantly "what is my Truth?"

That is why I am neither for nor against the wearing of Bana; but rather ensuring that I act with virtue and nobility through my journey of life. Whether my moral guidance comes from the Granth, from Vedic passages, or from God's whispers in my own heart, I have set my goal simply as being a virtuous human being.

That, in itself, is a challenge that is worthy enough of my time.

That is my Truth.

What's all this about "an animal you can't drink milk from"? This is just a Hinduistic vaim, isn't it?

If in the future, it is decided that dastaars are not acceptable for flights, and are banned (not so outlandish, seeing as how France has banned dastaars in schools, etc) would all of us Sikhs then also go bare headed on to planes? We can justify our weakness with excuses that we are doing it for the safety of others, etc. but the truth is that taking off the kirpan is a weakness.

What security risk does a kirpan pose in comparison to some psycho breaking one of those liqour bottles and using that as a weapon?

The total ban on the kirpan is wrong and when we take off our kirpans, we are making a compromise in Gurmat. Guru Sahib is always forgiving, but that still doesn't make it right.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji once sent two of his Khalsa to a renowned Hindu center of learning in order to be educated and to bring back copies of specific scriptures (the Guru translated a number of Hindu texts including the Upanishads). These two Khalsa made there way to the Hindu temple and came back empty handed.

The Guru asked why this was.

The two Khalsa said "Guru-ji; the Pandits at the temple would not allow us to use their texts due to our appearance".

The Guru replied by saying:

"You are walking into a territory where a certain code of conduct is required. You cannot march into someone else's world and make demands. You must relinquish your ego and show these men the respect that they deserve for the service they will provide you."

And so, the two Khalsa wore their hair down like the Pandits and made their way back to the Hindu temple. They did the rituals that they required and showed the proper respect.

They returned with the information and scriptures.

The country of France has its own domestic policy. They attempted to prevent anti-religious attacks in public places (a noble goal) by ensuring that no-one displayed any signs that were evident of their faith (a little naive, unfortunately).

Clothing has never been an issue on planes; with all the different and varied cultures from Asia to Africa to South America, everyone is allowed to wear what they wish. But you must understand the practical difference between wearing a turban...and carrying a weapon. Unlike a glass bottle, the blade was designed to be a weapon of combat with the ability to kill.

Sometimes, a little common sense can go a long way.

Indeed. As long as we remain burdened by the demons of the past and those of our parents, progress and peace will remain a dream.

Let us practice the virtues of contentment, charity, kindness, positive attitude and humility and build a better future for all of humanity.

Max, dude!

Doesn't matter what you belive or think. We humans make mistakes. It is all about what Guru says.

Focus less on making mistakes, and instead allow yourself to admit the mistakes you have made / are making and rectify them through virtuous actions to the best of your ability.

If virtue and nobility is your goal, God will be only too happy to help.

Nope Im not baptised either, I'm not ready yet as I still need to overcome some of the 5 sins. And I believe it is better if individuals overcome their negative points before representing and becoming a Khalsa.

I support Khalistan from a Sikh nationalistic perspective, the desire to have a homeland so that Sikhs of the Indian subcontinent can be free to practice their faith and live in a land away from persecution and genocide.

The world is the Khalsa's homeland.

The Khalsa has no reason to exist if not to protect humanity.

The Khalsa who fortifies himself and pusues only inward, selfish desires is not a Khalsa. He is a man who wears the symbols of humanity's Army, but who practices the vices of cowardice.

The true Khalsa walks through the world, free under the protection of the Lord, home only in the House of the Lord, and offers his/her service to all who might require it.

I don't know! Maybe it's just me...are we making pop star status out of our ragis. I mean someone told me that the established jathas can charge £1500 per diwan that's total gross earnings of £15,000 for over a week. This does not include kirtan peta.

The Gurdwara diwan packs up on the day but are we going to have Guru Ji's darshan or to see our favourate kirtani

This Shabad has got me thinking about selling Gurbani.

Ang 1245

salok mehlaa 1.

Shalok, First Mehl:

Dharig tinaa kaa jeevi-aa je likh likh vaycheh naa-o.

Cursed are the lives of those who read and write the Lord's Name to sell it.

khaytee jin kee ujrhai khalvaarhay ki-aa thaa-o.

Their crop is devastated - what harvest will they have?

sachai sarmai baahray agai laheh na daad.

Lacking truth and humility, they shall not be appreciated in the world hereafter.

akal ayh na aakhee-ai akal gavaa-ee-ai baad.

Wisdom which leads to arguments is not called wisdom.

aklee saahib sayvee-ai aklee paa-ee-ai maan.

Wisdom leads us to serve our Lord and Master; through wisdom, honor is obtained.

aklee parhH kai bujhee-ai aklee keechai daan.

Wisdom does not come by reading textbooks; wisdom inspires us to give in charity.

naanak aakhai raahu ayhu hor galaaN saitaan. ||1||

Says Nanak, this is the Path; other things lead to Satan. ||1||

Awesome passage, dude.

Nice to meet you too. And yes you cant go much wrong in life if you follow the basic principles of Sikhism, even if you were not a baptised Sikh. :TH:

Assuming from the way you talk and your promotion of the installation of a 'Khalistan', I assume that you fall under the category of a "baptised Sikkh"?

Although I am sure that you are a noble and morally steadfast amirdhari, I do find that assuming that the wearing of Bana by automatically makes one a 'good person' by default can be a potentially dangerous train of thought. But those who wear the Bana and use it as a tool to pursue a virtuous life of service, humility and humanity (like some of the members I have met here), then I believe that the Bana truly serves its purpose as a symbol that is representative of what it means to be a good human being.

Sikhi isn't a religion... it's a way of life

Yes, I have heard many people from many religions claim the same thing :TH:

there is no such thing as "sikhism" but there is sikhi.

I would have thought that they were one and the same; one term being an Anglicised version of the original?

We recognise all paths as ways to god, not just ours... however, i believe (IMHO) that sikhi is the most straightfoward and simple way to reach god in it's most basic, raw form...

Guru Nanak has said things that I think are very right.

A question for the sangat:

"When is it a good time to get "political?"'"

As long as one keeps perspectival and level-headed about it, any time can be "a good time"

Oh, guys...?

I was wondering from where I can get a good English translation of the Dassam Granth? A little help?

(P.S. - Don't you often find that, due to the inexperience of the translator in one of the two languages, that sometimes the poetic images of the texts are sacrificed for literal translations? It's kind of left to you to fill in the metaphorical meanings, which can be a bit of a pain, eh? )

i remove it because by obliging with the law, i help make my world a safer place to live in. I help contribute to safer skies, and I'm indirectly contributing to protecting the innocent, the defenseless and the meek. When I take my kirpan off, I'm acknowledging that I'm not going to make an issue about it, because anyone can DRESS the part as a sikh. All our rights and priviliges would be stripped and ripped if some random loser carries a kirpan onto the plane cuz it's allowed, but then stabs everyone in sight.... well we all know what would happen.

I take my kirpan off without a second thought because if I'm contributing to the safety of all of mankind, then I'm still fulfilling my duty as a Singh.

Your heart and mind are in the right place. You have a mind that is willing to solve the situations of real life with dilligence and intelligence. You are a man of virtue, duty and humble service.

In such ways, you are a true Khalsa.

Thats a whole different discussion... but anyways

I disagree, as I believe everone has the potential and power to do evil or do good. And I doubt anyone on this planet is either completely evil or completely "virtuous" as you put it. Some "evil" people reform and become better people while others once good decline and end up commiting evil acts. But I agree with this that we are all ultimately under the command and answerable to God.

Hey there :TH:

Yeah, that was my point. By "they" I was referring to deeds, not people. No-one is entirely evil or entirely virtuous - such labels are one-dimensional charactatures that hold little truth.

By the way what religion do you follow max? If any.

I was born into a Punjabi Sikkh family

I don't know if I necessarily "follow" any religion - I have a personal belief that Sikkhi is more than simply another 'religion' since its movement seems to have been motivated by a deviation away from the prison of institutionalised religion ("na koi Hindu, na koi Musalaman") - but I certainly agree with and admire much of what Guru Nanak has to say on the nature of God and the principles of morality.

Nice to meet you, by the way

I don' think there are any "types of Sikkh".

Only human beings and their deeds exist. They are either virtuous or evil. But all are ultimately under God.

Out of nowwhere a girl I know wants me to get to close to her, she is so-so attractive, and is really interested in eastern traditions.

I told her I was going to another town, and she's like can I come. I was thinking, okay.

And then she's like well have lustful relations...

Theirs one part of me thats says "HELL YEAH", and another that doesn't want to break temptation

and fall into sin.

What should I DO?

I am really weak as well.

It all comes down to one thing: choice.

There is nothing inherently wrong with casual sex relationships. Much has changed in the last six hundred years, and the social norms for which Guru Nanak was writing are alien to the ones that we are living in today. But the fundamental principles still apply.

"All men are alike in nature. It is their habits that divide them." ~ Confucius

Personally? I stay away from casual sex relationships because you always run the risk of becoming more emotionally involved than you might want to (I'm a very emotional person). If you decide to go ahead with this, you must do so with the knowledge that this could potentially come back and bite you in the arse at some point if you don't handle it well.

As long as you are both of legal age and as long as this relationship is of mutual consent and if you are both happy to do this then I see no real reason why not. Of course, having an affair is just unforgiveable, but if you're both single, horny and smart, you can do this and be fine.

Like I say, it's no guarantee. Hence it comes down to your own choice.