Tarrandeep Kaur

What upsets you more the fact she lied to you, or the fact she has a history? People change, fair enough she messed about before, but she wants a 2nd chance. If mahraj can forgive her of her sins, cant you at least try to put this behind you. Why make it a massive thing, if she has taken amrit since doing thse wrong actions then she has a new life, so you cant hold these things against her. Think about how she is feeling aswell, she obviously lied becuase she didnt want you to think bad of her etc.

End of the day, these things happen as a wake up call, when were all happy with our lovey dovey lives, we get a slap on our face reminding us that these relationships are false they can break at any time. Yeah fair enough this issue is going to play on your mind for a bit, but, as hard as it is to do, try and fight all these feelings of anger etc.

Use it is an opportunity to have some space from her, and sort yourself out.

Gurfateh jee

but seriously as keerpa said "keep a close not closed eye about antiSikhs on the forum, a.e muslims posting as hindus trying to insite hatred or hindus posting as muslims trying to insite hatred or moorukhs posting nonsence pretending to be Sikh".

Yes i agree, and you guys can help us, by reporting any topics that fall in this category.

There are classes on sunday evenings. At the gurdwara, edward street, west bromwich. I think they run from 6pm-8pm.

vahigurujikakhalsa, vahigurujikifateh.

I think its important to know, what the sangat thinks about the current state of this forum. Please post suggestions on what we can do to improve the quality of this forum. Constuctive critisims please, not blatant attacks :BL:

vahigurujikakhalsa, vahgurujikifateh.

Just curious to know if its possible to marry (Sikh boy and Sikh girl) without the parents being present within a Gurudwara....for example if one of both passed away or without the parents blessing etcc..

If your parents have passed away then there is no reason why a sikh boy and girl cant get married in a gurdwara.

If you dont have your parents blessings.........hmm i think you will get different advice based on peoples opinions. Personally i think its important that your parents agree with the wedding, however if they are against it due to silly principles such as your both not the same caste or something.. then perhaps the anand kaaraj could still take place with other family/relatives there.

But i'd say always try and work it out with your parents first, or get someone to talk about it.

sorry if i havent made sense, but i dont really know the circumstances, so cant comment appropriately.

gurfateh jee

No you didnt read properly. If there are problems concerning INTIMATE RELATIONS about your PARTNER, then you should ask olders who have experience with marriage etc, and can advise best. As youth will not always give the best advice since they havent been married, are not old enoguh etc, to understand these problems. For example the topic in question was about a husband and wife to be and wether the woman had had previous intimate relations. Im sorry but i think he would get a better answer from someone who has had the same experience. is married, have come across such problems.

I would never say, that you shouldnt get advice from the youth, i for one respect the youth alot, im just saying that certain topics deserve consideration.

If you have anymore concerns, feel free to pm me.

For now, topic closed.

gurfateh jee, thanks for the post.

I understand where your coming from, but you have to see it from our point of view. 1stly you have to understand people of all ages read posts on this forum, when posts come up regarding maritial personal probelems things will be posted which isnt right. There have been alot of posts when people have given responses to similar problems. Ultimately the best thing to do is to ask older gursikhs for advice, not youth on a forum. however if the topic isnt too personal and the poster really needs help, it will be posted.

vahigurooo :BOW:

jasmine oil is the best- and smells sooooooooooooooooooo nice....

Hmmm firstly, you need to get this girl out of your head; reality check-this girl left you, she said she loves someone else. Why would you want to be with her. Actualy theres not much point on even trying to explain things, because the mind is so stubborn, when it wants something it wont want to know anything else. You are right, going pesh, although it maybe necessary- its not a quick fix solution. You have made this mistake, and its going to be tough now, but ultimately its your battle. See how much dedication you have to mahraj and your sikhi. Keep doing everything your doing; ardas and nitnem. Even if your mind wanders dont stop doing baani, it will only help you. Theres not much else to say, you know the answer, you know what you need to do.

Gurfateh jee

oooooooo i remember now, bhai manjeet singh from glasgow sung it at a rainsbai- must be on the akj.org website somewhere, if anyone can find it....let me know.

Thanks alot for that; theres still one particular track im looking for, the tune is in my head...just dont know where to look for it.

Keep posting all the links sangat jee, thanks alot.

gurfateh jee

gurfateh jee

has anyone got the audio for the shabad: aisee laal thujh bin koun karai |

Im looking for a particular track, think it was sung by a bibi at some rainsbai-not sure.

G Kaur------- do your magic :smile-kaur:

Vahiguroo

you put 26th june on the thread name lol.

rainsbhai should be good

Haha, ive edited it for him.

gurfateh jee

jYqsrI mhlw 5 ]

Awey Aink jnm BRim srxI ]

auDru dyh AMD kUp qy lwvhu ApunI crxI ]1] rhwau ]

igAwnu iDAwnu ikCu krmu n jwnw nwihn inrml krxI ]

swDsMgiq kY AMcil lwvhu ibKm ndI jwie qrxI ]1]

suK sMpiq mwieAw rs mITy ieh nhI mn mih DrxI ]

hir drsn iqRpiq nwnk dws pwvq hir nwm rMg AwBrxI ]2]8]12]

Jaitsree, Fifth Mehla:

After wandering through so many incarnations, I have come to Your Sanctuary.

Save me - lift my body up out of the deep, dark pit of the world, and attach me to Your feet. ||1||Pause||

I do not know anything about spiritual wisdom, meditation or karma, and my way of life is not clean and pure.

Please attach me to the hem of the robe of the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy; help me to cross over the terrible river. ||1||

Comforts, riches and the sweet pleasures of Maya - do not implant these within your mind.

Slave Nanak is satisfied and satiated by the Blessed Vision of the Lord's Darshan; his only ornamentation is the love of the Lord's Name. ||2||8||12||

vahiguroo vahiguroo vahiguroo vahiguroo vahiguroo vahiguroo vahiguroo vahiguroo vahiguroo vahiguroo vahiguroo vahigurooooo

Hmmm cant we still have all the baani from last week aswel???

:sleep:

Stay on topic, no personal attacks, otherwise, topic will be closed.

Hmmm i think we should do our selected baani for 2weeks, then we can always choose a different baani we would like to do, or stick to the original one. Yeah add more baanis up, also can you add a box called 'other' so if someone wants to do a baani which isnt on the list they can check the 'other' box.

So are we all starting again this week then?? :Re:

vahiguroo

gurfateh jee.

vahigurujikakhalsa, vahigurujikifateh.

So how did this week go for everyone?

Did everyone manage to complete their baani, or even do any extra? Im going to admit, i missed some :cry: and will have to catch up :umm:

Would be nice if you could share with the sangat, what your thoughts are having done this extra baani, is it something you are prepared to stick to or perhaps you'd like to do more as part of your nitnem?

Who's up for next week :BL:

vahiguroo

vahigurujikakhalsa, vahigurujikifateh.

TOMTOM......................cudnt live without it :vaheguru:

just make sure ur siblings dont change the language to japanese when your lost in the middle of nowhere <_<

I think we always talk about the outer rehit, becuase personally i think its easier. How hard is it hard to wear your panj kakkars and keep the roop of a gursikh outwardly? Then think how hard is it to go a whole day without lying, without thinking bad of anyone, without speaking harshly.......... how hard is it to concentrate on naam, continuosly repeat it, do ur nitnem wiv full concentration... to have deya, nimrata, gareebi............. u get the idea? Speaking from experience, and through gursikhs i know, once we drop rehit, even if its outer, then the inner rehit suffers too. You need both, with mahrajs kirpaa...its possible..

gurfateh jee

8 people?? Come on guys, all of u lot hu spend most of ur tym arguin with other members on here, u cant take 5mins out ur day to do a bit of extra baani? Thats all it takes to do one chaupai sahib, 5mins!!??

I dont wanna be seen as if im preachin here, but come on, it would be great if we ALL took part in this. how many mebers are there on SS, well over 8 im sure!!

:D

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