The Khalsa Fauj

Prof. Gurtej Singh also got honored by Akaal Takht. These guys disrespect him 24/7. No one asks these guys. Yes, I agree with Akaal Takht marayda that Waheguru is Gurmantar. When did I say it is not? He bashed me by calling me some kid from some University. General Dyer or O'Dwaye whatever his name was also got honored by AKaal Takht. As for BHagat Farid being Farid Saani, read his bani and you will know. I can post the tukhs from his Bani to refute those claims but I want you to read the Bani and not post tukhs. s133k_s1kh, I understand what you mean but Panth is more important to me than 1 Jatha or person. If I need to expose someone and put someone down for Panth, I will. Even if I have to put down a family member for Panth, I will. I cannot accept those people who launch their own maryada against the Akaal Takht one. Doesn't matter what their status is. Many people are Gurmukhs at the beginning but one of the 5 doots takes over and destroys them. If I launched my own maryada against the Akaal Takht one, then blame me and I will stop posting here. When the person asked for rehat, I reffered the person to the Akaal Takht one while these guys kept dissing it saying it is false and stuff. Then how can this person question me on the Akaal Takht maryada? Did I ever post before in a thread about Gurmantar and say it is not? I don't questions Gurmantar. This dude made false allegations on me so I just budlaa lia by saying Randy Singh to Bhai Randhir Singh. This person doesn't follow Akaal Takht maryada, however picks and chooses when he needs to and then says that those who don't agree with Bhai Randhir SIngh aren't Sikhs. There is an issue. I ain't a stupid baman who will get disrespected and just sit down. Babbar Akali here. Nothing to do with ego but to do with Self Respect. There is no more debating properly here. He doesn't listen. He doesn't read Gurbani and brings some scholar into it. Read all the Shabads/Sloaks of Bhagat Sheikh Farid Ji and then say if he did Jaap of Waheguru or not. Reading and understanding Sidh Gost is also important. There were 22 munjis before. Now there are more that 5000. Some are big fish and some are small. Take down the big fish and small ones will vanish themselves. Who is responsible for the loss of faith in Sikhi in Punjab? Deras and jathas preaching their own thing. Who was responsible for these deras and jathas? The starters of these jathas. So did they do more harm or more good? Everyone is making their own maryadas and people are losing faith as they are confused and then they say forget it. He says Ibrahim Sani used Farid because was descendent of Sheikh Farid. What does that mean? That means he was follower of Sheikh Farid. Thus it has nothing to do with Guru Nanak Dev Ji. And if he realized the truth when he met Guru Nanak, then why did he use Farid? People like Singh132 are bust promoting Sarabloh and Bhai Randhir Singh while nihungs and saads are busy holding smagams to give Suruship to Dasam Granth which includes tria chariter which is kanjar kavita. What can be done about these types of figures? I don't get milk by posting here and spending my time. I can be reading Gurbani and doing better things but Panth is more important to me. Singh132, can you fly to the roof? How about feed me live roti from Ottawa? Leave the Pakhand. I know my statements seem like those of an egomaniac but it has nothing to do with ego. If I were to promote myself, I would just go to Punjab, wear a white chola, forget about the pajama/pant. Tie and white Dastar, collect some people, make them act as chelas, tell them to promote me, and make cash and boost ego. Ever heard of Baba Harnam Singh Kamagatamaru? He knew Bhai Randhir Singh very well, they were together in jail and knew each other very well. They were even honored by the indian government together after 1947. Three persons were honored: They were: Harnam Singh Kamagatamaru Bhai Randhir Singh Nidhaan Singh And Baba Harnam Singh Kamagatamaru = My dad's grandfather. Bhai Randhir Singh didn't show up the meetings to make the maryada so what does that tell about him and what does that tell about his loyalty to Panth? As for Bhai Kaan Singh Nabha. He was present at the first meeting but he died in 1938. If he had lived longer or if Prof. Gurmukh Singh or Gyani Dit Singh had lived longer, maybe some of the issues that aride today would have been solved completely to not rise again. I posted the birth dates of Bhagats, now find out their departure dates and see if who followed who makes sence. As for the PM from you s133k, i made a mistake and should have looked up the exact tukh before posting. I admiited the mistake and changed the post. I never said I don't make mistakes and I don't try to justify mistakes by going against fact.

Do you treat her properly? If no, this could be due to that.

Are you sure? Who taught you Gurbani viakaran? Did you get it from SGPC run Shaheed Sikh Missionary College? No point got refuted. Sheikh Fareed is still there. Other Bhagats are still there. If you had spent time reading Gurbani instead of Randy Singh, you would know better. Also, I recommend cutting down on the Mantar jaap and focus on Gurbani. When did I say don't Jupp Waheguru? I said not to say it is to be done 24/7. It says do it in the morning also. Not 24/7. Do you even understand what the marayda says? Are are you flying and clinged to the roof? They are called Kakkar because they start with Kukka. If you don't like the word kakkar, then you can use Nishanee. Also, I am calm and cooling. However, me, you can't be fooling. I prob. got more inside info on Bhai Randhir Singh than any of you guys here.

What do you mean the list of Bhagats doesn't make sence? Those are borth dates, not death dates dude. Why don't you just admit the facts? Other than that, I don't give 2 cents about derawalas. They are not even Sikhs according to us. Rehat marayada says repeat Waheguru in the morning and doesn't say how long. I have posted this before too that it is good to recite Waheguru to get the brain going in the early morning. If you need to repeat one word all to to get you brain going. Your brain isn't working. Get a medical checkup. According to you guys: Prof. Sahib Singh = excommunicated Prof. Gurmukh Singh = excommuncated Giani Dit Singh = excommunicated All of Shaheed Sikh missionary College and its associates = excommunicated Ever wonder why it is called Shahhed Sikh? You guys ask where were missionaries during 84? They were arrested tortured and killed. However, where were you derawalas and jathawalas when mahant narainu was doing his gundaa activities? They were there and did nothing because they were buddies. Even now, what are your jathas doing against Ashutosh or Bhunaarawala? Singhs from Khalsa Panchayat were promised by mehta chownkians that they will support them against ashutosh but backed off in the morning. Khalsa Panchayat guys were the ones who took the bullets. Parwinderpal Singh Buttar is the guy in that GursikhiJeevan.com video Lets analyze what he says: # 1 He says there are rehatnamas by GurSikhs which tell us what to do so there is no need for rehat maryada. - Maybe he didn't know or is deliberately trying to fool the innocent Sangat into his mumutt propaganda. There is no credible rehatnama, some rehatnamas say to kill non Sikhs. Some say not to wear red. Some say not to wear green. Some say it is okay to drink alcohol. Some say it is wrong to kill a cow. The bottom line is that the rehatnamas are not original and have been infiltrated with or were written later. It is very possible that the copier included his views in it too. Maybe he doesn't know but all rehatnamas say no kuttha. According to him, since rehatnamas are there, why did his dera have to make a maryada? #2 He says Bhai Kaan Singh Nabha wasn't present at the meetings. Bhai Kaan Singh Nabha was busy completing his work and doing other things. Also, he died in 1938. The list given by SGPC is very big and it includes Bhai Randhir Singh. Everyone doesn't have to show up to every meeting. Panth implemented the marayda as it is. Everyone must accept it. Read on Bhagats and see when they were born and when they died and when mira bai came along and stuff. It is good to read writers other than SatGuru Randhir Singh. Rehat marayda says about 5 Kakkars and some Kakkars. Rehatnamas, Hukamnamas, and history mentions 5 Kakkars. If you want to point a finger at 5 kakkars to prove Randhir Singh right, then your choice. All these writers and scholars and saads were after fame and looks like they got it. What happened to the Gurbani Viarakaran when it comes to Waheguru Gurmantar Hai? Wahe has a sihaaree. You know what that means?

Paapi yaar aarth gult kuree jaana! Wahe (Great) Guru (Guru) which is Gurbani is the Gurmantar. Rest you got right. Paapi yaar aarth gult kuree jaana! Wahe (Great) Guru (Guru) which is Gurbani is the Gurmantar. Rest you got right.

THose battas are huge becuase they have to provide for all the nihungs in the Dal and any visitors. I hate hindi movies now. Can't stand them. Garbage and promoters of serious munmutt.

Simran = remembrance. Kirpal and AKaal are different names but are used for the same entity. Same thing there. When you study for exams, do you also go Waheguru Waheguru with your mouth? How about Bhai Randhir Singh? When he was writing his books, was he jupping Waheguru Waheguru? If not then, there is no way possible to jupp Waheguru 24/7. Thus no kirtee person can follow this. Like I said, Guru Nanak Ji also said to naam jupnaa. Show me one place in Gurbani where Guru Nanak Devi Ji used the word Waheguru. If not, then I will accept that your Guru is Bhai Randhir Singh. So what should I do? Read Bani or do mantar jaap of the word Waheguru? What was the need for all the Gurbani if we are to just Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru? Guru Sahib was wrong? Bhai Randhir Singh was right? He knew more than Guru Ji? Here is a list of Bhagats long before Guru Nanak Dev Ji's time period. Bhagat Sheikh Fareed 1173 Bhagat Ramanand 1366 Bhagat Namdev 1270 Bhagat Sadhna 1180 Bhagat Jaidev Early 1100s Bhagat Trilochan 1267 Bhagat Ravidas 1378

No I will post some Shabads which clearly say to do Jaap and Veechaar of Gurbani. ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਸਖੀ ਅਨੰਦੁ ਗਾਵੈ ॥ gurbaanee sakhee anand gaavai. Gurbani is naam: ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਬੋਲੇ ਗੁਣ ਬਾਣੀ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥੪॥੫॥ jan naanak bolay gun banee gurbaanee har naam samaa-i-aa. ||4||5|| Naam is jupped through Gurbani: ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵਹ ਭਾਈ ॥ gurbaanee gaavah bhaa-ee. ਓਹ ਸਫਲ ਸਦਾ ਸੁਖਦਾਈ ॥ oh safal sadaa sukh-daa-ee. ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਇਆ ॥ naanak naam Dhi-aa-i-aa. ਪੂਰਬਿ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਪਾਇਆ ॥੨॥੧੭॥੮੧॥ poorab likhi-aa paa-i-aa. ||2||17||81|| ਧਨਾਸਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ॥ Dhanaasree mehlaa 3. ਜੋ ਹਰਿ ਸੇਵਹਿ ਤਿਨ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਉ ॥ jo har sayveh tin bal jaa-o. ਤਿਨ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਸਾਚੁ ਸਚਾ ਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਉ ॥ tin hirdai saach sachaa mukh naa-o. ਸਾਚੋ ਸਾਚੁ ਸਮਾਲਿਹੁ ਦੁਖੁ ਜਾਇ ॥ saacho saach samaalihu dukh jaa-ay. ਸਾਚੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਵਸੈ ਮਨਿ ਆਇ ॥੧॥ saachai sabad vasai man aa-ay. ||1|| ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਸੁਣਿ ਮੈਲੁ ਗਵਾਏ ॥ gurbaanee sun mail gavaa-ay. ਸਹਜੇ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਮੰਨਿ ਵਸਾਏ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ sehjay har naam man vasaa-ay. ||1|| rahaa-o. ਕੂੜੁ ਕੁਸਤੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ ਅਗਨਿ ਬੁਝਾਏ ॥ koorh kusat tarisnaa agan bujhaa-ay. ਅੰਤਰਿ ਸਾਂਤਿ ਸਹਜਿ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਏ ॥ antar saaNt sahj sukh paa-ay. ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਭਾਣੈ ਚਲੈ ਤਾ ਆਪੁ ਜਾਇ ॥ gur kai bhaanai chalai taa aap jaa-ay. ਸਾਚੁ ਮਹਲੁ ਪਾਏ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਇ ॥੨॥ saach mahal paa-ay har gun gaa-ay. ||2|| ਨ ਸਬਦੁ ਬੂਝੈ ਨ ਜਾਣੈ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ na sabad boojhai na jaanai banee. ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਧੇ ਦੁਖਿ ਵਿਹਾਣੀ ॥ manmukh anDhay dukh vihaanee. ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਭੇਟੇ ਤਾ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਏ ॥ satgur bhaytay taa sukh paa-ay. ਹਉਮੈ ਵਿਚਹੁ ਠਾਕਿ ਰਹਾਏ ॥੩॥ ha-umai vichahu thaak rahaa-ay. ||3|| ਕਿਸ ਨੋ ਕਹੀਐ ਦਾਤਾ ਇਕੁ ਸੋਇ ॥ kis no kahee-ai daataa ik so-ay. ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਰੇ ਸਬਦਿ ਮਿਲਾਵਾ ਹੋਇ ॥ kirpaa karay sabad milaavaa ho-ay. ਮਿਲਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਸਾਚੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਾ ॥ mil pareetam saachay gun gaavaa. ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਚੇ ਸਾਚਾ ਭਾਵਾ ॥੪॥੫॥ naanak saachay saachaa bhaavaa. ||4||5|| ਸੂਹੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਬਚਨ ਸਾਧ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਜਪੈ ਤਿਸ ਕੀ ਗਤਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਤ ਰਸਨ ਬਖਾਨੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਕਲੀ ਕਾਲ ਕੇ ਮਿਟੇ ਕਲੇਸਾ ॥ ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਪਰਵੇਸਾ ॥੧॥ ਸਾਧੂ ਧੂਰਿ ਮੁਖਿ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਲਾਈ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਉਧਰੇ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਰ ਸਰਣਾਈ ॥੨॥੩੧॥੩੭॥ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸੇਤੀ ਪਿਰਹੜੀ ਕਿਉ ਗੁਰ ਬਿਨੁ ਜੀਵਾ ਮਾਉ ॥ ਮੈ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਆਧਾਰੁ ਹੈ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਲਾਗਿ ਰਹਾਉ ॥੮॥ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਤੰਨੁ ਹੈ ਗੁਰੁ ਤੁਠਾ ਦੇਵੈ ਮਾਇ ॥ ਮੈ ਧਰ ਸਚੇ ਨਾਮ ਕੀ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਰਹਾ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਇ ॥੯॥ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਇ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਨਿਤ ਨਿਤ ਚਵਾ ਬਲਿ ਰਾਮ ਜੀਉ ॥ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਸਦ ਮੀਠੀ ਲਾਗੀ ਪਾਪ ਵਿਕਾਰ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥ ਸਲੋਕ ਮ ੫ ॥ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਬਾਣੀ ਅਮਿਉ ਰਸੁ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਉ ॥ ਮਨਿ ਤਨਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਉ ॥ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਤੁਮ ਗੁਰਸਿਖਹੁ ਸਚਾ ਇਹੈ ਸੁਆਉ ॥ ਜਨਮੁ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ ਸਫਲੁ ਹੋਇ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਲਾਇਹੁ ਭਾਉ ॥ ਸੂਖ ਸਹਜ ਆਨਦੁ ਘਣਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਜਪਤਿਆ ਦੁਖੁ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਤ ਸੁਖੁ ਊਪਜੈ ਦਰਗਹ ਪਾਈਐ ਥਾਉ ॥੧॥ ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਾ ਜੇ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਾਵਾ ॥ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਸੁਹਾਵਾ ॥ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਚਹੁ ਕੁੰਡੀ ਸੁਣੀਐ ਸਾਚੈ ਨਾਮਿ ਸਮਾਇਦਾ ॥੩॥ ਗੁਰ ਸੇਵਾ ਤੇ ਕਰਣੀ ਸਾਰ ॥ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਾਖਹੁ ਉਰਿ ਧਾਰ ॥ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਵਰਤੀ ਜਗ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਇਸੁ ਬਾਣੀ ਤੇ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਾਇਦਾ ॥੩॥ Is there need for more tukhs? Do you have any faith in Gurbani or just your ego? According to the aarth done by you, Gurbani will contradict itself, which is unacceptable. I am a GurSikh of Guru Nanak and not a Sikh of Bhai Randhir Singh. So, I don't care when you say I am not a Sikh. Holla back anytime you know star! To say that I don't believe in Gurmantar or Naam is just falsee allegations which in nindya which is maha paap. Just becuase you don't understand what naam is and what Gurmantar is, is it my problem?

If you look at that tukh and go past the aik ukhar line, you will see updais chau burnaa kao saanja. Updais is the Shabad. It is not wise to use one line to justify something. Whole Shabad has to be read. Aarth done by Prof. Sahib Singh is the same. Did he even mention jaap of one word when doing aarth? Again, your doing the aarth of aik properly but can't go deeper than that. You must go deeper. What is that aiku akhar? Gurbani. Gurbani the the word. Guru Ji has placed aunkar so that brhamans don't fool Sikhs and get them to start jupping one word from their books. ਸਲੋਕੁ ॥ ਆਏ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਰਨਾਗਤੀ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਨਿਧਿ ਦਇਆਲ ॥ ਏਕ ਅਖਰੁ ਹਰਿ ਮਨਿ ਬਸਤ ਨਾਨਕ ਹੋਤ ਨਿਹਾਲ ॥੧॥ Here there is no aunkar. So do there is more than one 1? No. Here the same thing applies. Aikh Akhur (AKaal Shabad). Lets see arrth done by other vidvaans. Bhai Manmohan Singh. Slok My Merciful Master the Ocean of Compassion I have entered Thine sanctuary. Nanak, he in whose mind the Unique Imperishable Lord abides becomes mightily pleased. Pauri. Prof. Sahib Singh. ਅਰਥ: ਹੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ! ਹੇ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਦੇ ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨੇ! ਹੇ ਦਿਆਲ! ਅਸੀ ਤੇਰੀ ਸਰਨ ਆਏ ਹਾਂ। ਹੇ ਨਾਨਕ! (ਆਖ) ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਮਨ ਵਿਚ ਇਕ ਅਵਿਨਾਸ਼ੀ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਵੱਸਦਾ ਰਹਿੰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦਾ ਮਨ ਸਦਾ ਖਿੜਿਆ ਰਹਿੰਦਾ ਹੈ ॥੧॥ Faridkoat wala teekah ਜੋ ਪੁਰਸ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕੇ ਸਮੁੰਦ੍ਰ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਕੀ ਸਰਣਿ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤਿ ਭਏ ਹੈਂ ਏਕ (ਅਖਰੁ) ਨਾਸ ਤੇ ਰਹਿਤ ਹਰੀ ਦਯਾਲੂ ਤਿਨ ਕੇ ਮਨ ਮੈਂ ਬਸਤਾ ਹੈ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਹਤੇ ਹੈਂ ਵਹੁ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ (ਨਿਹਾਲ) ਨਿਰਦੁਖ ਹੋਤੇ ਭਏ ਹੈਂ ਵਾ ਹਰੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਤੀਪਾਦਕ ਜੋ ਬਾਵਨ ਅਖਰ ਕਥਨ ਕੀਏ ਹੈਂ ਇਨ ਬਾਵਨ ਅਖਰੋਂ ਮੈਂ ਸੇ ਏਕ ਅਖਰ ਕਾ ਉਪਦੇਸ ਕਰਕੇ ਜਿਸ ਪਰੁਸ ਕੇ ਮਨ ਮੈ ਹਰੀ ਬਸ ਜਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਨਿਹਾਲ ਹੋ ਜਾਤਾ ਹੈ॥੧॥ Sant Singh Khalsa Shalok: O God, I have come to Your Sanctuary, O Merciful Lord, Ocean of compassion. One whose mind is filled with the One Word of the Lord, O Nanak, becomes totally blissful. ||1|| Doesn't mention anywhere to repeat one word. God's word is Gurbani. For the GurSatgur Ka Jo Sikh Akhaa-aye Shabad Again, there is no mention of repeating one word. God can be remembered anyway. I will only post aarth done by Prof. Sahib Singh. You check check the other ones yourself. ਪਦਅਰਥ: ਭਲਕੇ = ਨਿੱਤ ਸਵੇਰੇ। ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਸਰਿ = ਨਾਮ ਰੂਪ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਦੇ ਸਰੋਵਰ ਵਿਚ। ਉਪਦੇਸਿ = ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦੀ ਰਾਹੀਂ। ਕਿਲਵਿਖ = ਪਾਪ। ਸਾਸਿ = ਸਾਹ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ। ਗਿਰਾਸਿ = ਗਿਰਾਹੀ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ। ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ = ਹਰ ਦਮ। ਅਰਥ: ਜੋ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਦਾ (ਸੱਚਾ) ਸਿੱਖ ਅਖਵਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ (ਭਾਵ, ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ ਲੋਕ ਸੱਚਾ ਸਿੱਖ ਆਖਦੇ ਹਨ) ਉਹ ਰੋਜ਼ ਸਵੇਰੇ ਉੱਠ ਕੇ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮ ਦਾ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਹਰ ਰੋਜ਼ ਸਵੇਰੇ ਉੱਦਮ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਇਸ਼ਨਾਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ (ਤੇ ਫਿਰ ਨਾਮ ਰੂਪ) ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਦੇ ਸਰੋਵਰ ਵਿਚ ਟੁੱਭੀ ਲਾਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਦੇ ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਦਾ ਜਾਪ ਜਪਦਾ ਹੈ ਤੇ (ਇਸ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ) ਉਸ ਦੇ ਸਾਰੇ ਪਾਪ ਵਿਕਾਰ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ; ਫਿਰ ਦਿਨ ਚੜ੍ਹੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਦਾ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ ਤੇ (ਦਿਹਾੜੀ) ਬਹਿੰਦਿਆਂ ਉੱਠਦਿਆਂ (ਭਾਵ, ਕਾਰ ਕਿਰਤ ਕਰਦਿਆਂ) ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਸਿਮਰਦਾ ਹੈ। ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਦੇ ਮਨ ਵਿਚ ਉਹ ਸਿੱਖ ਚੰਗਾ ਲੱਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਜੋ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨੂੰ ਹਰ ਦਮ ਯਾਦ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ। Plus what you got to say about sikligars jupping Satnaam? Why do sikligars jupp Satnaam? THey aren't educated and don't have access to Gurbani. Do you not have access to Gurbani or are uneducated?

Which Guru or Bhagat composed that Shabad? How is it Shabad kirtan then?

ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਕਛੁ ਸੂਝੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਚਤੁਰੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ਪਾਂਡੇ ॥ गिआनु धिआनु कछु सूझै नाही चतुरु कहावै पांडे ॥ gi-aan Dhi-aan kachh soojhai naahee chatur kahaavai paaNday. You know nothing of spiritual wisdom and meditation, even though you call yourself clever, O religious scholar. ਪਉੜੀ ॥ पउड़ी ॥ pa-orhee. Pauree: ਹਉ ਕਿਆ ਆਖਾ ਇਕ ਜੀਭ ਤੇਰਾ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਕਿਨ ਹੀ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ हउ किआ आखा इक जीभ तेरा अंतु न किन ही पाइआ ॥ ha-o ki-aa aakhaa ik jeebh tayraa ant na kin hee paa-i-aa. What can I say with only one tongue? I cannot find your limits. ਸਚਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ਸੇ ਤੁਝ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥ सचा सबदु वीचारि से तुझ ही माहि समाइआ ॥ sachaa sabad veechaar say tujh hee maahi samaa-i-aa. Those who contemplate the True Word of the Shabad are absorbed into You, O Lord. So I will not do 2 hours of jaap of 1 word when Gurbani says to contemplate on Guru Shabad. Those who are lazy to read Gurbani can do whatever they want. Maybe you didn't know but sikligars have been jupping Satnaam since Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji went to give them updais. The word Waheguru was not used before Bhutts so there was no jupping of Waheguru before that.

Anyways, I am out. I got a lot of work to do. Naanak Unday Seo Kya Kahee-aye Kahay Naa Kaheyaa Boojay! ਨਾਨਕ ਅੰਧੇ ਸਿਉ ਕਿਆ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਹੈ ਨ ਕਹਿਆ ਬੂਝੈ ॥ नानक अंधे सिउ किआ कहीऐ कहै न कहिआ बूझै ॥ naanak anDhay si-o ki-aa kahee-ai kahai na kahi-aa boojhai. O Nanak, what can be said to the blind people? They cannot answer, or even understand what is said. ----- 1289

GuruShabad is singular because only Bani parvaan by Guru Ji is Guru. You have understood that when there is aukarh, it is singular so that is good. Your defintion of naam is different from mine. Your definition of naam is 1 word. My naam is all of Gurbani. What is better? One word of Gurbani? As for Fareed, it is Sheikh Fareed not Farid Sani. Show me one Gurbani tuk where he says Farid Saani? Also the Farid Saani you talk about, his name was Sheikh Brahm (Ibrahim). All Sakhis and Nanak Parkash mention Guru Nanak Dev Ji meeting Sheikh Brahm. As for the new pseudo scholars, they say whatever they want. There is no control over them. As for the descendents, it doesn't matter who they say. Descendents don't always tell the truth. Read on all Bhagats and see what you get about their life times. Also the questions posted above, they are the main things. Do you follow them? If not then why you preaching karam kaand? They can sing the Shabads that aren't in raags. E.g. Sloaks and vaars. Guru Sahib also told us to listen to Kavishers and Dhadis, do you do that? Do you follow everything that Bhai Randhir Singh says? If not, then which things that he said don't you follow? You still didn't answer the question about Nagar Kirtans and plates and glasses and the use of doonas.

Some other questions. Do you only listen to raag kirtan? Do you agree to the khunden of kirtan by chanting Waheguru Waheguru in the middle of a Shabad? (This is serious beadbi of Gurbani) Do you listen to proper raags at proper times? Using Vaaja isn't puratan either. Why do you use it then? How about toothpaste, don't use it since it has meat in it.

Why do you keep bringing the kakkars into the issue? You don't like them? As for the statement about Bhagat Farid, it is Bhagat Sheikh Farid. It is not Farid Sani. To cover one lie, no need to incent more lies. Read Bhagat Sheikh Farid's bani and see what he is saying and then tell me if he was here during the time of Guru Nanak or not. I know you are a student, that is why you are after me. Trying to establish that you are the greatest University student alive. Haha! Why again did you bring the kakkars into the horse issue? Why are you trying to go off topic and change this topic into a discussion on kakkars? Who is questioning kakkars here? No one is. Maybe you. Kakkars are mentioned everywhere in history, rehatnamas, hukamnamas, and Gurbani. Aside from a couple of karam kaandee rehatnamas, sarabloh isn't mentioned anywhere. To say that Bhagats were stuck in Karam Khund before Guru Nanak Dev Ji shows the amount of anti-Gurmat hatred and shows the lack of gyan. It is a direct disrespect of Bhagats to say that they were stuck in Karam Khund before. Shows you or your dehdhari didn't have too much gyan of Gurbani. Even a Sukha addict who reads even a little bit about Bhagats will know that some of them came before Guru Nanak Dev Ji. As for the comment related to Raam Raam Kurtaa, you just wrote what I wrote. Guru Shabad veechar. Waheguru isn't the only Guru Shahbad. Guru Shabad is Gurbani. Wake up! Looks like you have been brainwashed by tapoban. I live on Goreway too, if you ever want a meeting. Another question, are you getting mad? Have we met before in person? I don't know. Which University do you go to?

If you agree that the rehatnama is adulterated, then you must use Gurbani to prove your stance. Please do so using a Gurbani tukh which says to eat in Sarabloh? I see one simple tukh: Baba Hoar Khaana Khushee Khuaar Jit Khaaday Tunn Pee-rreaye Mun Meh Khullay Vekaar. As for Bhagats keeping 5 Kakkar. Panth wasn't established at that time. Guru Nanak stated the Panth and kakkars have been part of the Panth since then. So don't even go there. Maryada say to keep the Kakkars with us. Also, when sleeping, 5 kakkars stay with us and same goes for when doing isnaan. When doing isnaan, you just keep them with you. 5th Kakkar was given during Guru Hargobiind Sahib Ji. Guru Gobind Singh Ji just finalized everything. Didn't start a new Panth as you and some others like to believe. As for calling me someone kid from Ryerson. At least I got more education than most of the money collectors. I go to Ryerson because Akaal has given me a brain which works. Why are you so jealous that a student can preach Gurmat? What is the issue? You need a tissue? In the puratan times, it was kirti Sikhs who preached Gurmat. Not some money collecting, property makers. Read a book called Santa Day Kautak. Tell me this, where is Bani does it to stay hungry? Where does it say to follow a nunga saadhu? Where does it say in Bani to stand on one leg and do bhugtee? Where does it say in Bani to use magical or yogic powers to levitate? Yes, Sarabloh is considered uttam in Panth but not to the state you guys take it. Ghor Paap. Singh132, why don't you just accept that your Guru is Bhai Randhir Singh Ji? Bhai Randhir Singh said that the Bhagats never got to Sachkhand and that they are stuck in Karam Khund. Then he shows how he got Darshan of Sachkhand. Is he trying to portray himself over Bhagats? Don't tell me that all Bhagats met Guru Nanak Dev Ji and became Sikhs because Bhagat Farid was gone long before Guru Nanak Dev Ji came. Same thing goes for other 3-4 Bhagats. Raam Raam kurtaa Sabh Jug Firray, Raam Naa Paaya Jaa-aye. What does that mean? Isn't it reffering to mantar jaap of 1 word? Also, why did he run away from the rehit maryada committe? Didn't want to unite the Panth under 1 maryada? As for getting up at Amritvela. Who starts work at 5:45 in the morning? Just a cheap shot artist. Don't get mad and angry. Keep it cool and relax. People might have been fooled before due to lack of resources but now Gurbani and Gurmat is available widely. Thanks to printing machines and computers. Guru Ji also rode a horse and used tora walee guns and used no electricity. Why don't you do the same and live the same way? Why Sarabloh was used and is used within the Panth has been stated many times. If you or your gang fails to understand, tough loss. Ask Vedanti to issue a hukamnama and say Sarabloh is mandatory. I will accept it. Until then, don't preach a guy's marayda here or go to akj.com to preach it change the name of this website to akjsangat.com.

Bhagat Kabir was made in Sarabloh? He first used the word khalsa. Don't misuse the word Khalsa. What is your point about the necklace and kirpan? Of course it is karam kaand to wear a necklace kirpan. Do you agree with the following points from the so called Bhai Daya Singh Rehatnama? The points are: 1. Godess Durga appeared and 5 pyaras gave attention and then other devtas appeared 2. Mistan (sweet product) was given by Inder 3. Kaal (Shiv) gave knife (not khunda) 4. Chundi gave kesh to fight in war 5. Hanuman gave kashera 6. To make Karah parsaad (Vishnu gave shukker, Mahadev gave atta, and Brahma gave ghee) 7. The Amrit Sanchar banis are the following in Daya Singh Rehatnama: Japuji, Jaap, Chaupai (which one?), 5 Swayas, 5 Pauris of Anand Sahib 8. WahGuru Je Ka Khalsa WahGuru Ji Ke Fateh (not Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh) 9. Satnaam is the Gurmantar 10. It also only says not to eat meat killed by muslims. It doesn't say kutha or halal, it says meat from muslims 11. It says to recite Gurbani all day and not tota rattan of one word. 12. Don't read arbi or farsi (How do we read zafarnama then?) 13. Don't read saastras because you will start following brahmans. 14. It says that go to Abchalnagar (Hajur Sahib) to get your family saved. 15. Don't eat from the hands of a woman 16. Don't live in a city (run away, go to a pind now) There are a lot of flaws with this rehatnamas. It contradicts a lot. At the start it talks about how devis and devtas gave kakars and stuff and then it says not to belive in them later on. Preparing food in sarabloh is mentioned 2-4 times. This rehatnama wasn't written by Bhai Daya Singh from 5 pyaras. There are reasons and flaws. Things don't make sence. Which ones, know yourself. Is this the rehatnama you are using as a source? Or is your Guru someone else. I don't want to offend the great guy but it seems like your Guru is him and not Guru Granth Sahib Ji. You guys just pick and choose. If you want to pick and choose, base it on Gurmat. Followers of humans are Munmukhs. Following Guru is the way.

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What are you asking for reference about? Reference is there. Bhai Kaan Singh Nabha. That quote is from the book "Hum Hindu Nahee" That book was taken to court and debated on. When I post a legitimite link, you want actual reference. You post some web link and it is legitimite. Make up the mind. Evidence is there. Everything is there. Also, if eating in Sarbloh was important even 1-bit, rehat maryada committe would have atleast recommended it. There is no recommendation. If you look at the reference that Bhai Kaan Singh Nabha has given from puratan granth, it has no mention of preparing food in Sarabloh. It just says to prepare food with love to feed Sikhs. God was stupid to create other materials that we use as food? Accept that the Khalsa Raaj is everywhere, there is a meeting where 20,000 people are to attend. THey need to be provided food for, bring 40,000 + Sarabloh dishes? Lets talk about Nagar Kirtans. We have Nagar Kirtans and we use disposable foam cups and trays. Who is going to take and wash 100,000 trays and 100,000 cups? How about the space it will cover and take? In Anandpur Sahib during Nagar Kirtans, doonay (big leaves folded into leaves) are used for food and Karah Parsaad. That is puratan tradition which has continued so logic that it is puratan and has to be followd in mumutt. Exact reference is given for the book. Go look into it. Go buy Mitihaas Kosh which is published and distributed by Punjabi University. Read what it says. Wise people accept and move forward while _____ just try to pull backward. You want to eat in Sarabloh, you like it, go ahead but don't say it is Guru Ji maryada because it is not. Please don't offend my Guru and make him look like a karam kaandee. Sarabloh and 5 Kakkar aren't related. You attacking 5 Kakkar by saying that they can be labelled Karam Kaan shows the lack of understanding of 5 Kakkar. Kesh is part of your body, there is no karam kaand involved. Kara is to remind to do good deeds, no karam kaand involved. Kashera is to remain in jutt sutt, no karam kaand involved. Kanga is to comb kais, no karam kaan involved. Kirpan is weapon, no karam kaand involved. If you do think you have to do Japuji Sahib paath if kanga drops while combing hair, then it is karam kaand. If you think you have to pesh because the Kirpan came out of the gaatra and fell, then it is karam kaand. If you think you have to wash wood before burning, then that is karam kaand. Did Shekh Farid or Bhagat Naamdev keep Sarabloh bibek? Even the word bibek is misused. Bibek means pure. Nothing is pure. Everything is jhootha except Bani. There were reasons why Singhs kept Sarabloh utensils in old times. There were some reasons: 1. It was cheap to buy. 2. Someone rarely stole it. 3. There were no glass or foam made utensils. 4. Couple other reasons. Some other questions: Is the soap or shampoo you use made from Sarabloh? Is the toothpaste packed in Sarabloh? Is your toothbrush made from Sarabloh? Is the mujj, whose milk you drink, made from sarabloh? Does the mujj make the milk in sarabloh? Were you made in Sarabloh?

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Hahahahahahahaha! No one can kick me out of Panth! I don't want to cause fight okay! Relax! I just preach Tat Gurmat. Who is going to kick me out of Panth? No one is! What will be the false allegation? ShareenKaur Ji! It is not nice to make false allegations. No one here belongs to the opposition party. As for that Bhai Mani Singh Sakhi, it is all over history books. Saadh babas talk about it a lot. I don't write anti-panthic stuff, derawalas do. They shalt be excommunicated when time comes!