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Read the above again Inder and tell me who is the real pervert and the real nindhak. "ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਬਾਣੀ ਸਚੁ ਹੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਲਧੀ ਭਾਲਿ ॥ : Vaahu vaahu baanee sach hai guramukh ladhhee bhaal ||: Waaho! Waaho! is the Bani of the True Word. Searching, those who have become Gurmukhs have found it (sggs 514)." This True word is Gurbani and can only be found in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee.

Exactly and yet we are busy with other bani besides Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Only Bani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee is "Gurbani". Inder, you calling this pervert? If you are calling the above statement pervert then you are also calling Guru jee pervert and the article quoted pervert too.

I called your logic a prevert. Do not twist my words.That is what followers of kala afghna do. Sikh panth has rehat maryda derived out of old texts and traditions. Read that before posting such statements. That accords recognition to writings of al gurus. If you want a change walk out panth and form a separate sect. Why creating discord. So now you are calling this article pervert ? "This Bir was then taken to Sri Hazoor Sahib, NandeR, in 1708 by Guru Gobind Singh jee. On 20th October, a day before Guru Gobind Singh jee physically passed away, he asked Bhai Daya Singh jee to bring Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee and do Parkaash (ceremonial opening). Guru jee placed a cocunut and 5 coins in front of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee and bowed his head before the Shabad Guru and announced that from now on the eternal Guru will be Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee. Guru jee told the Sangat: "With the directive of the Almighty, initiated is the Panth. All the Sikhs are decreed to acknowledge Granth as Guru. Believing in Khalsa, epitomises the Guru as corporeal. Sikhs desirous to achieve me, (may) search in them."

Exactly and yet we are busy with other bani besides Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Only Bani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee is "Gurbani". The above is a prevert logic fabricated by sex offender kala afghana. Then you are calling Guru Jee a pervert too. I am posting part of an article from a blogpage http://manvirsingh.blogspot.com/2008/10/october-20th-marks-gurgaddi-diwas-of.html :- Quote "October 20th marks the Gurgaddi diwas of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee, when the Tenth Nanak, Guru Gobind Singh jee Maharaaj rested Guru-ship in the eternal Guru of the Sikhs, Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee. Saariaa nu Gurpurb di Vaadhaayee Hove!. .. Resting Guru-ship in the Guru Granth-Guru Panth This Bir was then taken to Sri Hazoor Sahib, NandeR, in 1708 by Guru Gobind Singh jee. On 20th October, a day before Guru Gobind Singh jee physically passed away, he asked Bhai Daya Singh jee to bring Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee and do Parkaash (ceremonial opening). Guru jee placed a cocunut and 5 coins in front of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee and bowed his head before the Shabad Guru and announced that from now on the eternal Guru will be Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee. Guru jee told the Sangat: “With the directive of the Almighty, initiated is the Panth. All the Sikhs are decreed to acknowledge Granth as Guru. Believing in Khalsa, epitomises the Guru as corporeal. Sikhs desirous to achieve me, (may) search in them.”

Exactly and yet we are busy with other bani besides Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Only Bani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee is "Gurbani".

Mai tehnu samjathi. Understand this, Sikhs do need to support either BNP OR SHARIA LAW. Understand this, Sikhs in UK need only abide by British law and live peacefully.

I wont support either. Both are "evil" in their own way. BTW you dont see or hear of the jewish plotting or actually killing UK citizens do you.?

Did you manage to read the shabad?

Please know that no one from here will "force" you to "convert" into Sikhee. The choice will be up to you. However, its a Sikhs duty to inspire others and share Guru Nanak dev jee's divine message for the benefit of mankind and to realise the purpose of life. Please note that I am still learning (rather slowly) and am not extremely knowledgeable in Gurmat. I am still doing a lot of "vichaar" (spiritual inquiry) on Gurbani (as per Sri Guru Granth sahib jee) on my own. Initially I read books but that was not enough. I then realised that to understand Sikhee is make self effort (uddham) to read and contemplate on Gurbani as written in Sri Guru Granth sahib jee. To help me I ask Akal Purakh (Allah/God) for help in this endeavour and guide me to understand Guru jees divine teachings (Gurmat). I ask Akal Purakh to help me, a moorkah , be a "Gurmukh" to realise the purpose of human life. This online sites helps me a great deal "Gurbani.org". This site has recently started a "blog" page on Gurbani vichaar. A shabad to contemplate on: * Do those deeds which the Guru has ordained. Why are you chasing after the Guru's actions? Says Nanak, through the Guru's Teachings, merge in the True Lord ||27|| (sggs 933). Note: Bride in the shabad refers to all of us as "soul brides". If you have any other queries on the shabad in the link above, please do not hesitate to ask.

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Quote from another sikh forum site : "Recently Dr Harshinder Kaur a Punjab Govt Medical Doctor went to the UNICEF at UNO to represent Punjab. She apparently committed three serious offensces..serious enough to get her sacked.. 1. She Spoke PUNJABI- a definite "offense" as "civilised Indians" only speak Hindi/English especially at International Forums.. 2. She BUSTED the MYTH spread by the authorities that PUNJAB "leads" in Female Foeticide..has the largest Male-Female ratio imbalance in India...and that SIKHS are the worlds number ONE GIRL CHILD KILLERS.. Dr Harshinder Kaur was "warned" by an Indian official attached to the UNO (in PUBLIC) to not dispute officla Indian Govt statistics...but she persisted at teh TRUTH..another SERIOUS OFFENSE !!. 3. She IGNORED the rantings and publicly issued warnings of the female Indian Govt Offixial attached to the UNO Mission to stop...or she will suffer the consequences on her return to India...that is another and her last offense...and she realised that this official spoke the "truth" about seriosu consequences..wehn the PUNJAB GOVT issued her a SACK NOTICE on her return to Official Duties.. So Now the Cat is OUT of the Bag....PUNJAB..and SIKHS are selectively at the receiving end of a vicious propoganda campaign...the netire thing about Female foeticide..Punjab being the state with highest female-male imbalance..SIKHS beign biggest Kurree Maars in the world...are all a selective persecution and propoganda campaign to MALIGN."

Message from Achhhhhmed of the UK Sharia hedquarters. I Kill U infidel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go

But when you adopt another religion you leave behind your old beliefs. you go through a ceremony to commit to your new faith. That is what all american sikhs do. Let us leave the name thing behind on your suggestion. What about her looks. Does she look like a sikh. She diplays picture of Gurinder singh from UK who has done his master's in dasam Granth and castigates him for being a mona. What authority she has to preach to others when she herself is a moni ( bob cut). Please do not tell me that having rehat is irrelevant. had she been a conforming sikh she would have some ethics and would not have lied a number of times during my interactions. Religion is not for discussion only . Religion means truth and truthful living. So you admit that she does not look like a sikh. . What aspects of bani > That is there no naam simran , gurmantra and amrit vela in sikhism. Stop picking on other people. Look at your own defects first. That Penji has more Piar for Sikhee then most of us who just go to Gurdwara once in while or only Sundays, bow our head, stuff our faces with langar and go home without even doing Gurmat vichaar. You want to say something about penji, please do it on spn site or pm her directly. Stop acting like a spoilt brat!

So why are you then implying that its ok to do parkash of both 'granths' and that to at the same level of authority. Its Gur maneo "Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee"...and this is supported by Gurbani (i.e. Sri Guru Granth Sahbi jee).

And before Amrit Sanchaar, they were no Sikhs?? Bhai Gurdas jee mentions many time GurSikh or GurSikha.. so does Gurbani and I mean Sii Guru Granth sahib jee FYI I have only looked at one of their topic ie "Amrit Vela". Will look into the others another time.

Its NOT being a BULLY bhenji, THIS is called DISCUSSION, something we NEED to have VERY much in our Panth. Do YOU understand? Sorry bhene I can't stop enjoying this :lol: have you noticed that i am following the uppercase trend. Inder singh is not only a BULLY. he is a BRAT too. There are several brats in this tread who so far have threatened me with slapping, BURNING ME, throwing off a cliff ..... I call them male chauvanist BULLIES!! But i did not make any personal remark against you. Have i? If so show me. Stop diverting attention. Inder singh, tell me if this comment is not an insult against the HIGHEST authority "some id1ots say the SGGS ji is all they need in life......... i imagine most of that life will be spent inside a bedroom then."" You are going on about dasam granth and SPN BUT right in front of you some BRAT has just INSULTED Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee. What are you GOING to do about THIS?

Here is another FINE example of another MALE chauvanist BRAT!! Your MAMA needs to put your over her thighs and give you a got CHITAR.

This is a response from a BULLY male chauvanist BRAT. (Note the use of uppercase as per jarnail singh arshi)

Its NOT being a BULLY bhenji, THIS is called DISCUSSION, something we NEED to have VERY much in our Panth. Do YOU understand? Sorry bhene I can't stop enjoying this :lol: have you noticed that i am following the uppercase trend. Inder singh is not only a BULLY. he is a BRAT too. There are several brats in this tread who so far have threatened me with slapping, BURNING ME, throwing off a cliff ..... I call them male chauvanist BULLIES!!

when are you going to stop threatening me and start explaining? FYI your comment: "some id1ots say the SGGS ji is all they need in life......... i imagine most of that life will be spent inside a bedroom then." I am waiting HSD. Please explain your slanderous comment about Sri Guru Granth sahib jee and those who have total faith in Gurbani. Inder singh - STOP being a BULLY. Gur maneo Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee ...according to ALL the Gurus. NOT Guru maneo dasam granth..

Why only the taliban? Isnt it in the islamic teachings to tax non-muslims. Demonstration should be against the islamic teachings not the taliban as they are simply obeying their islamc teachings.