Super_Singhni

it, do what you like.

again, read carefully what i wrote. i apologized for using harsh language not for saying the truth

btw, people like you are the reason we are losing all maryada that guru sahib has given us

No, you said you could care less if you hurt peoples feelings and then offered an apology. That makes no sense at all, and is not much of an apology. Is this how you practice Sikhi????

You call me "It", deliberately and on purpose - see how childish and unnecessaily aggressive you are? Where did you learn to do this? Not from our Guru!

People like me are not the reason we are losing maryada - you cannot blame me for something worldwide. You yourself havent done it, so stop being such a hypocrite! What i am saying is if someone wants to ask a simple question, let them, dont bully and reprimand them.

This is a forum for everyone to learn from each other, not for you to deliberately try to belittle people. Why are you on here then?

What do you think your Guru thinks of you for your behaviour that you have shown? You hide behind the Guru's words and talk of maryada etc but you dont even show the basic principle of Sikhi - tolerance towards others. No wonder people use "Guest" as a disguise for their identity if they cannot even ask for simple help because they will be bullied by the likes of you.

I think you too need an English version of the GGS, you clearly have no idea about how to treat and help people. Stop with the fake words and apologies. Learn your background and stop shaming the Guru's teachings.

fateh

id like to appluad akirtghan for the fact that his post was relevant to the question asked i dnt see hw he belittled the person asking the question, he gave a pretty damn concise answer and he offered a link the fact he is giving us this info is something we should all learn frm . to me summer ji it looks like U r the one looking to stir the infamous "karche". Veer ji has been patient with you and has even apologised for his harsh words, but he has told the truth theis person was hinting that our guru ji was a book that can be traded for money, yes it may happen outside but that does not make it correct again hes correct in saying all should come from the sgpc and the english translations are a bit dodgy! you have provided no information to help, so please if your just on here to hate stop it!

bhul chuk maf :wub:

all i can say is....AMMMMAAAAAZIIINGGG! :wub:

absolutely beautiful!

khalsi

so in the future bibia are gonna say waheguru ji ki khalsi

why not...lets mix it up a little..... :wub: (im joking for those who take things seriously!)

how come none of the people that call themselves Singni in their usernames are not commenting on this?

the question is does it really matter what people call themselves in whatever context? personally i think theres better things in life to concentrate on.....

are you guys kidding me?? who judges what is acceptable or not....you could wear a dastaar and act completely inappropriately. Theres a few Singhnia i know that have worn the Dastaar but several years down the line have taken it off...comments like this which state that patka is unacceptable arent helpful at all.

Just because someone wears a Dastar and act inappropriately, or takes it off later, that does not make the Dastar less compulsory. I am sure those Bibian also wore Kara, Kirpan, etc, that does not mean it is acceptable to go without these also.

actaully i have ssen amrit sanchaars where bibia wear pataks and also dastaar, so i think u dnt know what you talking about. however i do agree that biba should wear dastaar but thats there own personal option and cannot be forced. read my signature and you will understand the basic rehit

Because it happens in an Amrit Sanchar doesn't neccesarily make it right, there are Gursikhs who have also witnessed the Panj arguing between themselves over which Rehat to give in the middle of the Amrit Sanchar! Rehat is not a case of being 'forced'; either something is a Rehat which a Gursikh must follow, or it is not a Rehat which someone does not need to be follow. There are no Rehats which are 'optional' or 'do it if you feel like it' - either Guru Sahib has told us to do it, or he hasn't!

The Rehat Maryada in your signature, quotes Rehatnama written by Bhai Daya Singh as a source on Rehat. This same Bhai Daya Singh Rehatnama says very clearly it is NOT acceptable for Bibian to have their hair at the back of their head, it says that they must have their hair knotted at the top of the head!

I dont disagree with you, yes all panj Kakkara are very important, but they all have different reasons for being part of us....so one could say that wearing the Dastaar has different effects on the person compared to wearing the Kirpan.

I personally feel that you need confidence and pride when wearing a Dastaar...I started off wearing a Patka after my amrit sanchar, i feel that this was an important step to me now tying a Dastaar.

Everyone progresses differently, i dont mean to offend. :wub:

fateh

i think what veer ji is trying to say is that once you have decided to take amrit, that the decision should also coincide with the decision to wear a dastaar as guru ji has told us! we are not judging anyone but if you do decide to take amrit surely you would have thought about the age old patka vs dastaar question. also id like to stress malkit singhs point about gurdwara needing to step up there game, dastaar tying classes whatnot!

bhul chuk maf peepz! :wub:

edit(by me): its not unacceptable as veer ji said above, because its everyones choice but on another point as super_singhni said above people have taken it off in the past, it does nothing to dwell on peoples past mistakes we should look forward and encourage people to go towards gurus word, dwelling on scenarios where people have messed up is not a correct reason to tell people to nt do the gurus bidding!

Kullykhalsa, you say that we shouldnt look at the past, so does that mean we shouldnt look at past successes either?

the past is very important, to a certain extent just as everything is....from the past we learn.

really tho...who cares if culture discourages..do whatever makes you happy...and if thats staying at home with the kids or whatever while your wife works....go for it!

allow the norm! :wub:

lol so ul let your husband be even more lazy then? he doesnt even have to go to work.

dude...who said anything about letting the husband be lazy? are you saying that staying at home, doing the housework, looking after the kids and whatnot is easy stuff?

i agree that everything should be in balance and its up to the individuals involved...so really live and let live! :D

When entering your Amrit Sanchar, and all the time after you take Amrit, your Jurra must be on the top of your head at the Dasam Duar, not at the back like a Bandana/Patka. So a Dastar is a must after Amrit, Patka simply just isn't acceptable!

Fateh.

are you guys kidding me?? who judges what is acceptable or not....you could wear a dastaar and act completely inappropriately. Theres a few Singhnia i know that have worn the Dastaar but several years down the line have taken it off...comments like this which state that patka is unacceptable arent helpful at all.

I dont mean to offend, just my opinion.

really tho...who cares if culture discourages..do whatever makes you happy...and if thats staying at home with the kids or whatever while your wife works....go for it!

allow the norm! :wub:

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm a Dastaar-wearing girl and usually get called a Muslim. Or were you talking about people from Punjab who actually live in Punjab? :wub:

Yeah me too, its funny tho because the other day a muslim woman wearing a hijab asked me whether I was Muslim...thats never happened to me before! :D

Fateh Jio :wub:

1) I use two towels, one for the body and one for the hair...

2) I have a small kanga in my joora (coz i dont have like loads of hair, its just the right size)

4) I think this is ok

hope this helps!

fateh :wub:

wjkk wjkf.

I lived in Reading for a couple of years...and there wasnt really much going on, in terms of Sikhi..

You're best bet is to go to a London Gurdwara if you can.....slough/southall are only a small train ride away...

Good Luck! :wub:

sleeves rule :umm:

Gurfateh!

if you really want to do medicine, then you should no matter what....but you should really consider it carefully as the degree is very long and if you dont enjoy and actually want to do it, then you will have no drive!

Allow marriage plans, what will happen will happen....you might meet someone who doesnt mind that you're studying...it is possible to be married and be doing a degree.

Its not strange at all to start a degree when you're 23...you might even find that your age really helps you focus and progress through uni. On my course majority of people were late 20s/30s and there was even one guy who was 60. so dont worry! :umm:

Fateh.

This Terry Milewski talks about how Indira Gandhi died because of 2 Sikhs....but they didnt give any background or any information AT ALL to 1984....what kind of reporting is this?! its a joke!

you could put them on your mantlepiece, in an urn, suck them up in a vacuum cleaner, some people have mixed the ashes in water and then drink them (its gross, i know...but it happens!)....theres endless ways really....

so does that mean our ashes should be 'disposed' of via mother nature i.e. rivers, land etc

WJKK WJKF

I was just wondering why Sikhs ashes are taken to Kirtpur?

Whats the history behind this?

Thanks!

:ans

Fateh.

I think its the way you percieve things, which is why you think that there is a 'Club Khalsa'......

If you want to help make food for Langar....nobody is stopping you...apart from yourself!

Listening to ....

ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਦੇਖੇ ਨੀਦ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥

Mai bin gur dėkhė nīd na āvai.

Without seeing my Guru, sleep does not come.

...by Bhai Harjinder Singh......amazing.....

Gurfateh Bhenji!!!

That is soooo good....just what i needed!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa,

Waheguru Je Ke Fateh.

Just need to say that I have THE hairiest hands, even hairy than most males that i know....

I see amritdhari girls who have plucked their eyebrows etc but I feel that at the end of the day its the individuals choice. Its personal and its a decision that only the person who experiences the stares etc can make.

Its about you being happy within yourself which also affects the strength of the connection with Waheguru.

P.s auntia at the Gurdwara, have no shame when it comes to telling others about things like hair, spots etc...it happens to the best of us!!

Just be Happy!!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa,

Waheguru Je Ke Fateh.

you think thats bad?

I dont know if ya'll heard of this site called www.facebook.com

it's basically a network for college students around the world! There are thousands of youth sikhs, but you can clearly tell the gursikhs apart.

There are specific groups such as "putt sardara de" that badmouth sant ji and many other great shaheeds! it's so funny because most of the members of that group are mone but they say they are still sardars because of the family ancestry! (jatt, etc.)

I strongly urge the youth that are in colleges or universities to join facebook.com and hopefully set "sikhs" on the right path!

Don't get me wrong there are also great gursikh groups such as "singhs are kings" which kicked out all the mones and kept all the sardars.

:TH:

(I think you can still register if you are an alumni..)

chardi kala

Mone are not bad people. SOme mone know sooo much about Sikhi in comparison to some ''sardars''. Every person is different, and you cant tar them with the same brush.

WJKK

WJKF

I think what you did was right, as Pritam Singh Khalsa said it all depends on the situation. If someone ever touched my dastaar like that I wouldnt be able to let them get away it. Its your besthee that they are doing.

You shouldnt feel bad because its not like you did it on purpose, and your intention was to go over and apologise to him in the first place.

Just remember that we all do things sometimes that in hindsight are not proud of, just learn from them.

WJKK

WJKF

WJKK

WJKF

Hey Lost, just wanted to say that when I was at university ALL my friends were white and did the usual stuff i.e. drinking, clubbing etc and when i did meet indians they were pretty much the same!

There wasnt even a Sikh Soc, so at times I did feel alone but that experience has really helped me in life.

I came out of it a stronger and more confident person and proud of the fact that I was one of very few Sikhs there.

I think that you should concentrate on yourself first and what you really want, because you seem to talk about other girls and boys and how they act, dress etc. If you know that your actions are not right, then you are the only one responsible for changing them.

Sikhi is different for every individual and people find it in different ways. You have to sit down and think about how much you want it, because if you want it bad enough nothing and nobody can stop you.

Bhul Chuk Marf Karni.

WJKK

WJKF