Tejvir

yep,

check this youtube vdeo out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMKeos3EU40

has anyone heard of Baba Kahandas?

just wanted to know a lil bit about his history

funny how he's jumped on the band wagon, especially when promoting or taking smack, anything for maya hey?!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX4rWLeTDWM

and then there's manmohan waris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8WRuFlOZCg

i remember when, i had to leave darbar sahib, and i was walking backwards, and i stumbled over those wooden lil desk things (don't know what their called)

So I've stopped walking backwards and faced the way I walked out of no disrespect to Maharaj.

i think the same can be said for all people in these times...

'Don't be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind'

ermmm so can we have more details about the amrit sanchar in Southall on Saturday?

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can you install the pda version on some phones? like the n73 ?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ke Fateh.

Just wondering if anyones used Google Map before? And if anyone knows of a google map with all the Gurdwara's, and if not lets start our very own sikhsangat one.

Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa

Waheguru ji ke Fateh

the attached images cannot be seen on my browsers. am i alone ?

this reminds me of that uproar the muslims had about the illustration of muhammud, its a similar stunt

Thank you so so much. :wub:

our enemies are the 5 vices

Yes 5 vices are our enemies...but they are our inner vices and they have been the vices of every individual since beginning. But apart from that there are some worldly enemies too.

Like we had mughals, turks, afghanis, pahari raje etc but that doesn't mean we didn't have 5 vices as our enemies then they existed at same time with every individual's 5 vices. Likewise apart from our 5 vices there are a lot of other enemies who have nefarious designs aimed for inflicting damage on people's lives.

I understand what your saying bhaaji, by me saying enemies are 5 vices. I was trying to say lets sort out whats going on within ourselves and our community before flaring up feelings of hatred. I, as many lads, would read such blogs, and feel stirred up feelings towards other people who appeared to be a enemy, but not all people who appear to be the enemy are the enemy.

our enemies are the 5 vices

i find your blog very right wing, and could see that youth with very little foundations set in sikhi, to take this blog to flare up their emotions and then landing themself in trouble.

Calls to Re-establish Sher-e-Panjab Leadership!

Original Sher-e-Panjab Headhunters speak out against Inter-Sikh Fighting!

Full story: www.SarabhaPanjab.blogspot.com

^ without violence - and bloodshed - Unfeasible

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahegure Ji ki Fateh.

Yesterday I was talking to the guys from punjab at my uni, literally about all these issues hitting punjab.

1. Punjab Infustructure - No jobs (especially I.T) these guys have to go to Bangalore.

Jobs which are available in punjab are mostly in Chandigarh, and the people who get the jobs are usually connected with ministers and pay money under the table to get them. So the guys who work really hard don't always get the best jobs. The private jobs which are available are not paying enough, around Rs5000 a month, which is nothing.

2. Petrol prices Rs70 a litre i think(don't qoute me, might be the price of a full tank). and the only reason the prices went up was because of the war on iraq, India and Iraq had a good relationship and hence oil was cheaper.

3. This Baba, who says he can make the 7 setaray.

4. All the young people of punjab coming into foreign countries. Rather than trying to make changes in their own country, they HAVE to come to other countries to provide for their families. With the lack job oppurtunities, and labour jobs paying hardly Rs100 a day, how can they feed their families. And even the jobs priority is given to the stoot castes. I understand that in Sikhi their is no Caste, but surely a job should be offered to you on your abilities.

5. Drugs are a major major problem in punjab, nearly 80% of the guys left in punjab on on drugs. be it Smack, Heroine. The amount of off licences opened in punjab have qudrupled. So much so that it was cheaper to buy a four pack of beers than water.

Drugs such as smack are in so much demand that even the pharmacies sell them. Them drugs sell more than the medical drugs. I asked the student from punjab, doesn't police do anything. they laughed. They said their the ones selling them, if they don't sell they go out of pocket. This was a problem which really had me worried. even got me researching into anti drugs campaigns. And didn't find any major clinics. I saw an article from one of the sikh websites. but have forgotten which one but it was written about one clinic where they shave the addicts hair including eyebrows, so they will now run away. The article also spoke about it not being right and not the gurmat way. This is one place in which we can help our punjab, even if we can set up a campaign or anything to counter anything. But then my reluctance came into play and thought that all these drugs where do they come from. My thoughts only turned to the government, and the fat cats of punjab.

6. Their are so many educational institutes in Punjab now, that colleges are finding it hard to enrol students. I s'pose its not bad, but some of these colleges do not have many recognised boards. So if a student wants to come to the UK the college they attend would have to be apart of a certain board for them to be eligible for their application to be accepted.

In the next ten years most india's population is going to be under 20's, which is the only shown promise that the young population will be educated and changes will come.

p.s. forgot about the water issue.

I'll be going, and i'll help do anything i can get my hands on,

waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh.

Sangat ji, i've been reading that topic for about half an hour, and some thing in my mind keeps me thinking, keep ya rehat maryada, and look to the future.

waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh

inspiring phaaji

Vaheguru...

well I guess since I started this topic I should tell my story as well...

lets see... k....

well ... i was by no means born into a Sikh family... my dad was (and still is) an alcoholic... he cut mine and my brothers hair when we were really young (we started off keeping our kesh)... all 3 of us were basically 'forced' to live the punjabi lifestyle i.e. partying every week, eating meat, bhangra etc... etc... newayz, we were all headed down the wrong way really fast, since we grew up in the ghettos of toronto.. growing up we were all into the 'thug life'.. our family started coming to sangat when i was in grade 5, which is when i actually started keepin my hair.. at that point i was forced to keep my hair... but a year or so into it my dad cut it again... and then my momz froced me to keep it again... the next few years while in juniour high i started fallowing the gangsta lifestyle like everybody else around me... i started chillin wit older peepz who were also on the wrong track, most of them my brothers friends.....newhoo.. in high school... continued the wrong lifestyle... even though i still went to sangat... i dunno, at that point i REALLY loved goin to sangat... loved doin kirtan, playin tabla n stuff.. but didn't have the discipline or nething.. i continued keeping my kesh... my older brother turned his life around a couple of years earlier... he took amrit and all that good stuff... but me and my oldest brother were still on the OTHER side... in high school i got involved with gangs, girls n crime n all that stuff... all my friends were either drug dealers or in jail or something.. at this point my mom was really into sangat too... after a while... my dad wouldn't let her go to sangat... he was 'anti-sikhi'/'anti-sangat' kinda thing... main reason he didn't want her goin to sangat was 'cause it made her HAPPY... and bein an INDIAN MALE... he COULDN'T let that happen... rite?... ... newhoo... my momz basically stopped goin because of him, but us 3 brothers continued to go... as i got into grade 11 i kinda started changin my wayz... at that point sangat really started rubbin off on me.. as well we had a LOT of family troubles at home between my parents... my dad, from grade 8-12, left home on n off... through the years the problems just got worse... would abuse my mom n stuff... i had taken amrit jus a while before that, just basically outta nowhere... however, through my stupidity i didn't keep it and respect it...

newayz, i started gettin serious wit my life... changed schools... got 'decent' friends ... they weren't into the whole thug life... they were actually a positive influence for me... at this point i started focussin on my sikhi and studies more n more... from then on up until now, I became closer and closer to some singhs in Sangat... even though i still kept wit a lot of my 'old ways' they were still a HUGE inspiration for me.. basically taught me almost everything i know about sikhi (i'm not sure if they want their names mentioned, so i'll keep them gupt)... about 3 years ago we moved from the GHETTO to the suburbs of Toronto (Brampton).. at this point my parents were separated, but it was a good thing, 'cause it allowed all of us to focus on our sikhi and allowed my mom to go to sangat... we were all basically happier ... Living in Brampton, where bout 80% of the population is punjabi (hehehe) we basically started a new life for ourselves... this was a HUGE thing for everybody in our family... living here there's ALWAYZ some kirtan program or sangat goin on somewhere... i slowly got into goin to gurdwara for simran and started goin to other programz in the area... also, i got to attend the Sikh camps we had here... about a year after moving i started to meet MANY chardi kalaa gursikhs living here (which i would have never met livin back there)... they helped influence me to follow my sikhi (at this point i had already broken my amrit, but was keen on goin for pesh, admitting my faults and retaking it ... i was older now and was gettin serious bout my sikhi)... i told myself i didn't wanna make the same mistake... with the help of my brothers around me, i started keepin up wit my amrit vela, attended regular kirtan programz durin the week, and got focused on my studies (which were REALLY behind before i moved here)... i cannot express HOW much the singhs around me really inspired me... gursikhs like those, man, wow... i can't express in words how grateful i am to Guru Jee for directing them towards me...

... as time went on, all i could think of was going back to Guru jee... EVERY day I would think bout taking amrit... i started reading more Bani and it was all gettin clearer to me... everything kept pointing towards Guru jee, and me taking amrit... i alwayz thought to myself... if i die tomorrow then my whole life is wasted... i tried to become more disciplined and faitful towards my Guru... in that time a few amrit sanchars had already gone by.. one thing that was really hindering me was the fact that i had a girlfriend... she was actually very positive towards me takin amrit and actually helped me in some sense... however the attachment for both of us was really hindering this step... i had way too much kaam ... after a while i told her that i would be taking amrit soon, i didn't know when but i WILL be taking it, whenever Guru jee calls me to his door... and basically we stopped everything... it was hard lettin go, but i thank her beacuse she kinda pushed me too.. she was very positive about it so that helped me out...

time went on and i couldn't wait no more... i told my mom that if i died that day then my whole life would be wasted... in July there was a Calgary sadh sangat Samagam... i actually wasn't going to go to this at first because i couldn't afford it... but somehow my ardaas was answered... i booked my ticket on a seat sale and i got a really good price that i could afford... the second i hit 'SUBMIT' on the website after purchasing my ticket i KNEW, okay this IS the sign... i knew there would be an amrit sanchar there that samagam... and i had made up my mind way before about this...

calgary samagam came and i was so nervous and scared about goin for pesh.. but i talked to some singhs who put me to ease.. they really supported me... for me it was WAY overdue.. hehe.. i thought back to the first time i took it, and for me it was like spur of the moment... it seemed like 'the thing to do'... 'cause everywhere i looked people were taking amrit, all the sangat around me was amritdhari.. i felt left out... but this time... it was a decision made by my body, mind, and soul together... Saturday July 2, 2005 i was reborn a SIKH... i thank Guru Jee with all my heart for giving me another chance... i thank all the sangat around me for being there with me... from then up until now, i have been at peace... tha day i came back home i told my mom, if i die tomorrow i'll die happy and with guru jee... tha's all i ever wanted... (being a mother she didn't wanna hear me talk about death, but she was so happy to see me happy and with Guru Jee)...

i know without Guru jee sending me to them, i'd probably be in jail, dead, or somewhere in between... without his grace, and his hand on my head, i wouldn't have got anything... i still don't even realize everything he does ... but it is a life task (seva) to devote myself to him...

that being said... i still have A LOT to learn and am far from where i should be.. and i hope i can learn a lot from all of you... i hope you can all continue to inspire and educate me... i hope i can continue to be in the sangat of chardi kalaa gursikhs... i know i must've done somethin right in one'a my previous lives to have your guyz darshan...

'Bin Bhagaa, satsang n labai.... bin sangat mail, bhareejai jeeo'

challo... SHUKAR HAI!!...

i'm sorry for writing a whole essay... hehehe... hope i didn't waste anybodys time...

Dhan Vaheguru....

bhul chuk maaf...

Vaheguru Jee Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Jee Kee Fateh..!!

a glass of dhaal after a great work out beats any protein shake!

when's it gonna be complete, i think we should organise a good ol' sikh sangat pilgrimage!

I'm proud of being british and all that, but our guru deh khar, shouldn't be associated with any other organisations, like recieve money from the government, they are always usually formed by the kinds hearts of the sangat. so to put the union jack and the Nishan sahib, it wouldn't sit comfortably with me.

not to pick on you, but you have a khanda with an overlay of a union jack. what's the difference between that and flying a british flag along side the nishaan sahib? nishaan sahib is religious, not political like the union jack, and vice versa. It should be lower, but I don't see any real problem with it. I know there's a situation out in california where they wanted to put up the nishan sahib, but the county or something had an ordinance that said that the u.s. flag had to be the largest flag on a property, so they can't legally put up the nishan sahib. In that situation, I can see that it's wrong to do that, but if there's no ordinance saying that in British law, what's the problem? Just fly a lower one underneath.

Sorry for the late reply, when I posted my post, I know I was gonna get asked that.

The khanda has the british flag within it, to represent british people, the Khanda is a one symbol for sikhi, with deeper meanings. This represents the people or the sikhs, rather than a gurdwara, Which is a Guru da Ghar, We have nationalities, weather it comes before religion or be nationality is another arguement but since when did Guru ji have a nationality, never, which also brings on another arguement should we have nationality, isn't our nationality the Khalsa, i'm getting confused

Bhul chuk maaf karni ji!

I'm proud of being british and all that, but our guru deh khar, shouldn't be associated with any other organisations, like recieve money from the government, they are always usually formed by the kinds hearts of the sangat. so to put the union jack and the Nishan sahib, it wouldn't sit comfortably with me.