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  1. read barah maha and find out what is truly befitting and fulfilling in each weather!

    ਮਾਹ ਦਿਵਸ ਮੂਰਤ ਭਲੇ ਜਿਸ ਕਉ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰੇ ॥

    Māh ḏivas mūraṯ bẖale jis ka▫o naḏar kare.

    The months, the days, and the moments are auspicious, for those upon whom the Lord casts His Glance of Grace.

    ਨਾਨਕੁ ਮੰਗੈ ਦਰਸ ਦਾਨੁ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਰਹੁ ਹਰੇ ॥੧੪॥੧॥

    Nānak mangai ḏaras ḏān kirpā karahu hare. ||14||1||

    Nanak begs for the blessing of Your Vision, O Lord. Please, shower Your Mercy upon me! ||14||1||

    ang 136 Sri Guroo Granth Sahib Jee Maharaaj.

  2. Many Thanks for yuor response. It's greatly apprecaited. I do wear the Kirpan over my clothes rather then under the vest.

    Could you please advise where I am able to purchase a kirpan like the one you mentioned and is it known by a particular name? This one I purchased from the Taksali stall was supposed to br Sarbloh.

    Thanks

    The kirpan (the blade and handle) you bought probably is sarbloh as I think all taksali kirpans are, but if might be coated with nickel (you can tell if its just overly shiny), and the decorative metal on the case is almost always steel or some other metal.

    I bought a kirpan like that (sarbloh on the case as well) from cross road gurdwara coventry, though I dont think all kirpans they have are like that

  3. Applications still open. I'm more than happy to help or advise anyone applying or thinking of applying. :D

    Once again I would like to reiterate that I can vouch for the fact that this is a really amazing opportunity. There are so many possibilities... for instance my own trio is working on a documentary for schools, where we got to interview various people of faith. Was such a fun experience and as a bonus adds variety to my CV. I am very keen to see more Sikhs getting involved, it helps you but its also a seva to represent!

  4. wjkk wjkf

    I think we sould respect Balwant Singh Rojana's wishes, he has obviously prepared for this shaheedi.

    Delaying it in my opinion is not desirable for a soorma like Balwant Singh. He knows that with his shaheedi it can only make the panth stronger.

    Of course it is very distressing seeing someone like BALWANT SINGH be given the death sentence. however in my mind by delaying the date it will cause the panth to lose momentum in the cause for justice, for awareness. By his hanging it raises awareness of the hundreds of sikh prisoners still rotting away... thousands of familys destroyed

    bhul chuk maaf

    wjkk wjkf

    Bingo

    I feel that these protests are a good idea, but we are sending the Wrong message. Instead of saying "free Bhai balwant Singh", we would should be saying that "we stand 100% by your desicion Bhai sahib and support it, but this decision by the courts is wrong"

    Double bingo

    It has never been the way of the Khalsa to beg false sarkaar!

    Words of Shaheed Bhai Fauja Singh Ji:

    "The tenth Guru formed the Khalsa by shedding his blood. When this plant gets dried up, it needs more blood. Then the Guru`s beloved ones spill their blood to keep the Khalsa`s flag flying. This cycle comes approximately every 50 years"

  5. The difference between "EK" and "EKA" is that EK refers to one as in number, but EKA is refering to one who, or one who has etc. In english translation the meaning is lost where sometimes just one is entered, and sometimes where "the one" or "the one who" or "the one that" etc.

    ਏਕਾ ਮਾਈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਵਿਆਈ ਤਿਨਿ ਚੇਲੇ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥

    The One Divine Mother who HAS given birth (or gave) to the universe and the 3 deities.

    the example given above by Bhaji Singhstah :

    ਸਭ ਏਕਾ ਜੋਤਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਜੇ ਕੋਈ ॥

    The One Light is all-pervading; only a few know this.

    The line :

    ਏਕਾ - One who is

    ਨਾਰੀ - own woman

    ਜਤੀ steadfast (although people generally refer to Jatti as being celibate, but this is not always the case, out of the 6 jattis, at least 1 was married, jatti actually means one who has his senses under control)

    ਹੋਇ is

    ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ another woman

    ਧੀ ਭੈਣ ਵਖਾਣੈ। recognise as daughter or sister.

    Bhai Gurdas talks about the character of the Sikh saying :

    The one who is steadfast in his woman, recognising others as his daughter or sister.

    The Eka in being singular is not meaning the woman, but the Man who is the center of this line, and nor is Bhai Gurdas Ji or Gurbani anywhere saying that multiple marriages are against Waheguru's hukam.

    Simply because I lack the relevent knowledge of gurbani grammar, I referred the question to bhai kulbir singh who has given the below reply, which makes total sense:

    "The first point is that the word ਏਕਾ is an adjective (perhaps Sankhavachak Visheshan or Sankhayak Visheshan) and is always used with a singular noun in feminine gender.

    In the examples quoted in the first post, this word has been used only with singular nouns of feminine gender - ਮਾਈ, ਜੋਤਿ, and ਟੇਕ. Since this word is used only with singular feminine nouns, we can deduce that in the Pankiti from Bhai Gurdaas jee's Vaar, this word is connected to ਨਾਰੀ and not to the husband.

    The meaning is clear - Gursikh is the Jatee of ਏਕਾ ਨਾਰੀ i.e. his own one woman and he considers all other women as his daughters and sisters.

    Logically thinking, why would a Jatee Gursikh get married to multiple women and have a harem? Can a person who has more than one wife, be classified as a Jatee?

    Chatanga:

    The Eka in being singular is not meaning the woman, but the Man who is the center of this line,

    As mentioned before in this post, the word ਏਕਾ is with ਨਾਰੀ and not man because everywhere in Gurbani, this word only comes with singular feminine gender noun.

    Lastly, we must remember that this Pauri of Bhai Gurdaas jee is for Gursikhs and defines the characteristics of a Gursikh.

    Kulbir Singh"

  6. Bhai Gurdas has written " Eka nari..." . If this was to mean one woman, wouldnt it have made more sense to write "Ek nari..."

    What does the "a" after the ek denote?

    Also why this injunction on males only? Bhai Gurdas has written about eh character of a Sikh, but why exclusivley male Sikh?

    In regards to the quote from Bhai Gurdas Ji Di vaara;

    ਏਕਾ ਨਾਰੀ ਜਤੀ ਹੋਇ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ਧੀ ਭੈਣ ਵਖਾਣੈ।

    aykaa naaree jatee hoi par naaree dhee bhain vakhaanai.

    एका नारी जती होइ पर नारी धी भैण वखाणै ।

    Having one woman as wife he (the Sikh) is a celebate and considers any other's wife as his daughter or a sister.

    3 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੬ ਪਉੜੀ ੮ ਪੰ. ੩

    I have checked with Bhai Kulbir Singh who is extremely knowledgeable in Gurbani grammer, who has clarified that 'eka' still means one, by showing quotes from Gurbani where 'Eka' has been used to mean one:

    ਏਕਾ ਮਾਈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਵਿਆਈ ਤਿਨਿ ਚੇਲੇ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥

    ਸਭ ਏਕਾ ਜੋਤਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਜੇ ਕੋਈ ॥

    ਏਕਾ ਟੇਕ ਮੇਰੈ ਮਨਿ ਚੀਤ ॥ ਜਿਸੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਰਣਾ ਸੁ ਹਮਰਾ ਮੀਤ ॥1॥

    Just because the line from Bhai Gurdas stated a male should only have one wife, this does not mean that women can have multiple husbands. It is this same quote from which we get the principle of men looking at all women other than their wife as mother, daughter or sister, and although the wording is only written from a male perspective, it is also used in the exact same way to instruct women to look at men other than their husbands as fathers, brothers and sons. In the same way we take the principle from this that a Sikh, be it a man or a woman, is to have only one spouse. To try to make it gender specific just because of the wording is really clutching at straws. Plenty of gurbani is written from a male perspective but it is unanimously accepted that the meaning of such shabads applies to both men and women. For example, in bhagat dhanna ji's shabad in arti, bhagat sahib ji requests a wife, it would be ridiculous to say that this shabad cannot apply to a woman because of such wording, or that only men have been given the right to do ardas for a spouse and not women.

    If you say that Guru Gobind Singh Ji is God himself, then you are going against Gurbani.

    2ndly , Guru is the prime example for Sikhs. Whatever Guru Ji did/said is our sikhya. Your argument is one that many Muslims say about Mohammed, who had 11 wives, even thought they are only allowed 4 at one time max. Muslims say that Mohammed was the perfcet man, yet he didnt obey his own God.

    If we are in any situation good or bad, then who better to look to for guidance than our own perfect Guru.To say that we can do this thing because Guru Ji did it, but not this thing becasue even though Guru Ji did it, we dont wear a kalgi, or sit on a takht doesnt really add up to me.

    Guru ji being God is a totally seperate subject, if you didn't like that one point, I have given other points to show actions Guru Ji himself did but Sikhs must not do, eg wearing a kalgi. We have indisputable examples of things Guru Ji did which Guru Ji has not allowed for Sikhs.

    Yes we should look to Guru Ji for guidance, but the way to do this is not to look at everything Guru Ji did and imitate it, but to see which hukams guru ji has given to us and in the act of following those hukams see how guru ji practiced them. Everything Guru Sahib did is not for a Sikh to do, but everything a Sikh is meant to do, Guru Sahib did do to show us how.

    For example, there is a sakhi of Guru Nanak Dev Ji and Bhai Mardana needing to cross over a river, Guru Sahib told Bhai Mardana to jap vaheguru gurmantar, and in doing so bhai mardana ji was able to start walking across it, while doing so guru sahib started chanting something else which bhai mardana then started to chant, at this bhai mardana ji began to sink, when he started to jap vaheguru upon guru sahib telling him to do so again, he came back up and was able to cross over.

    To sum up, Bhai Gurdas Ji Di vaara clearly spell out that a Sikh has only one spouse. Whether or not Guru Sahib had more than one spouse, even if he did it was not for any worldly reason that an ordinary human would do so but for very good reasons known to him, but this does not give us the right to do so.

  7. Songs are most definetly a no no, as for instrumental, I don't suppose they are bad as such but why bother wasting time with them when we will gain real benefit from gurbani keertan? The peace or good feeling gained from worldly music is just something that entertains the mind, it does nothing for the soul, so this peace will never be permanent. Only gurbani can give us true and everlasting peace, happiness, and anand and this is far greater than anything seemingly gained from any other source.

  8. Both parts are AMAZING! Topics covered: How bhai sahib got to sikhi and his whole family changed (including father who used to drink), Curing paralysis and illness through Naam, How to increase love for Vaheguru, Aath pehar naam simran (continuous naam simran day and night), Does reading bani still have effect if you don't understand it?, How can we do nishkam (Desireless) seva? We believe God is in all, so why boycott people like radhaswamis? Living with non religious parents/in-laws, Is vaheguru the gurmantar, what is satnaam? How were people saved before Guru Nanak Dev Ji? And much much more.

  9. This article from www.abhiyaas.blogspot.com covers the topic and your questions very well, starting with a shabad from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj, http://abhiyaas.blog...03/rom-rom.html

    Rom Rom

    (Ang 941)

    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਾਚੇ ਕਾ ਭਉ ਪਾਵੈ

    gurumukh saachae kaa bho paavai

    The Gurmukh lives in the Fear of God, the True Lord.

    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬਾਣੀ ਅਘੜੁ ਘੜਾਵੈ

    gurumukh baanee aghurr ghurraavai

    Through the Word of the Guru's Bani, the Gurmukh refines the unrefined.

    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵੈ

    gurumukh nirumul har gun gaavai

    The Gurmukh sings the immaculate, Glorious Praises of the Lord.

    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਵਿਤ੍ਰੁ ਪਰਮ ਪਦੁ ਪਾਵੈ

    gurumukh pavithru purum pudh paavai

    The Gurmukh attains the supreme, sanctified status.

    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਰੋਮਿ ਰੋਮਿ ਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਵੈ

    gurumukh rom rom har dhiaavai

    The Gurmukh meditates on the Lord with every hair of his body.

    ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਾਚਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ ॥੨੭॥

    naanuk gurumukh saach sumaavai

    O Nanak, the Gurmukh merges in Truth. 27

    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਰਚੈ ਬੇਦ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ

    gurumukh puruchai baedh beechaaree

    The Gurmukh is pleasing to the True Guru; this is contemplation on the Vedas.

    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਰਚੈ ਤਰੀਐ ਤਾਰੀ

    gurumukh puruchai thureeai thaaree

    Pleasing the True Guru, the Gurmukh is carried across.

    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਰਚੈ ਸੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਗਿਆਨੀ

    gurumukh puruchai s subadh giaanee

    Pleasing the True Guru, the Gurmukh receives the spiritual wisdom of the Shabad.

    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਰਚੈ ਅੰਤਰ ਬਿਧਿ ਜਾਨੀ

    gurumukh puruchai anthur bidh jaanee

    Pleasing the True Guru, the Gurmukh comes to know the path within.

    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਅਲਖ ਅਪਾਰੁ

    gurumukh paaeeai alukh apaar

    The Gurmukh attains the unseen and infinite Lord.

    ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਦੁਆਰੁ ॥੨੮॥

    naanuk gurumukh mukath dhuaar

    O Nanak, the Gurmukh finds the door of liberation. 28

    In this Shabad, Guru Sahib makes it clear how the Gurmukh (pure being) lives his/her life, and how one finds the door of liberation. Guru Sahib has also made it quite clear that the Gurmukh meditates on the Lord God with every hair of his body. Daas has heard many stories about meditating with each strand of hair, one of them is when a Gurmukh meditates with each strand of hair one hears the Shabad Vahiguroo in the hair, if one holds the hair close to ones ear. Daas would like to confirm this is not true.

    One has to read the Naam Drug article (http://abhiyaas.blog.../naam-drug.html) to realize that Naam and God is an energy that is contained in every single atom of the Universe. When ones concentration of Naam reaches a certain level one starts to meditate with every single strand of Hair.

    ਬਾਣੀ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮ ਸੁਣੀ ਸਿਧਿ ਕਾਰਜ ਸਭਿ ਸੁਹਾਏ ਰਾਮ

    baanee raam naam sunee sidh kaaruj sabh suhaaeae raam

    Hearing the Bani of the Lord's Name, all my affairs were brought to perfection and embellished.

    ਰੋਮੇ ਰੋਮਿ ਰੋਮਿ ਰੋਮੇ ਮੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਰਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਏ ਰਾਮ

    romae rom rom romae mai gurumukh raam dhiaaeae raam

    With each and every hair, with each and every hair, as Gurmukh, I meditate on the Lord.

    ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਏ ਪਵਿਤੁ ਹੋਇ ਆਏ ਤਿਸੁ ਰੂਪੁ ਰੇਖਿਆ ਕਾਈ

    raam naam dhiaaeae pavith hoe aaeae this roop n raekhiaa kaaee

    I meditate on the Lord's Name, and become pure; He has no form or shape. This line proves god is energy.

    ਰਾਮੋ ਰਾਮੁ ਰਵਿਆ ਘਟ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਸਭ ਤ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ ਭੂਖ ਗਵਾਈ

    raamo raam raviaa ghutt anthar subh thrisunaa bhookh guvaaee

    The Name of the Lord, Raam, Raam, is permeating my heart deep within, and all of my desire and hunger has disappeared.

    ਮਨੁ ਤਨੁ ਸੀਤਲੁ ਸੀਗਾਰੁ ਸਭੁ ਹੋਆ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਰਾਮੁ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸਾ

    mun thun seethul seegaar subh hoaa gurumath raam prugaasaa

    My mind and body are totally adorned with peace and tranquility; through the Guru's Teachings, the Lord has been revealed to me.

    ਨਾਨਕ ਆਪਿ ਅਨੁਗ੍ਰਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਹਮ ਦਾਸਨਿ ਦਾਸਨਿ ਦਾਸਾ ॥੩॥

    naanuk aap anugruhu keeaa hum dhaasan dhaasan dhaasaa

    The Lord Himself has shown His kind mercy to Nanak; He has made me the slave of the slaves of His slaves. 3

    How will one know if one is meditating with each strand of Hair?

    What tends to happen is, ones body through Naam and Dhiaan (concentration) becomes filled with an overwhelming energy - which is felt in the Tenth Gate (Dasam Duaar area). When the concentration and Shabad stay in this area for a certain period of time constantly without the concentration coming back down to the lower energy centers known as chakras, one starts to meditate with every single strand of hair. Once the concentration is poised in the higher energy centers (chakras), most likely the concentration will not come down and should stay there. The reason it should stay there is, once one has experienced this overwhelming, ever uplifting feeling blessed by Guru Sahib one will make sure the concentration level never drops, and constantly stay in single- minded Abhiyaas (practice). One will realize when the concentration level drops, as one will also drop in to feeling down and negative emotions. Every single strand of hair on ones body is also filled with the energy of the universe (God, Naam) which becomes a magnetic force. This state of mind is only achieved by great fortune, blessing, past karam and intense Akhand (non-stop) Naam Abhiyaas.

    ਮਨੁ ਤਨੁ ਧਨੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਭਿ ਦੀਆ ਰਖਿਆ ਸਹਜਿ ਸਵਾਰਿ

    mun thun dhun jin prabh dheeaa rakhiaa sehaj suvaar

    This mind, body and wealth were given by God, who naturally adorns us.

    ਸਰਬ ਕਲਾ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਿਆ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਅਪਾਰ

    surub kulaa kar thaapiaa anthar joth apaar

    He has blessed us with all our energy, and infused His Infinite Light deep within us.

    ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਸਿਮਰੀਐ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਰਖੁ ਉਰ ਧਾਰਿ ॥੧॥

    sudhaa sudhaa prubh simureeai anthar rukh our dhaar

    Forever and ever, meditate in remembrance on God; keep Him enshrined in your heart. 1

    When ever a part of ones body e.g. Arms come into close contact with anything physical, the strands of hair on ones body will physically stand on end and magnetically be pulled towards the physical object. This is a sign of one meditating with each strand of hair. One will automatically know when one is at this stage, as you actually feel the force of this energy in the head, body and hair. Daas would like to confirm this is not made up, it is personal experience; with Guru Sahibs Apaar Kirpaa.

    ਉਲਟੀ ਲੇ ਸਕਤਿ ਸਹਾਰੰ

    ouluttee lae sukath sehaarun

    Turning away from materialism, I have found intuitive support.

    ਪੈਸੀਲੇ ਗਗਨ ਮਝਾਰੰ

    paiseelae gugun mujhaarun

    I have entered into the sky of the mind, and opened the Tenth Gate.

    ਬੇਧੀਅਲੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਭੁਅੰਗਾ

    baedheealae chukr bhuangaa

    The chakras of the coiled Kundalini energy have been opened.

    (Ang 972)

    This is the stage where one is not affected by worldliness at all as one has learnt to accept all in the will of the great lord and let the world be, one has realized ones coming in the world is a mere play/drama; all is false.

    (Ang 294)

    ਸਰਬ ਭੂਤ ਆਪਿ ਵਰਤਾਰਾ

    surub bhooth aap vuruthaaraa

    In all forms, He Himself is pervading.

    ਸਰਬ ਨੈਨ ਆਪਿ ਪੇਖਨਹਾਰਾ

    surub nain aap paekhunehaaraa

    Through all eyes, He Himself is watching.

    ਸਗਲ ਸਮਗ੍ਰੀ ਜਾ ਕਾ ਤਨਾ

    sugul sumugree jaa kaa thunaa

    All the creation is His Body.

    ਆਪਨ ਜਸੁ ਆਪ ਹੀ ਸੁਨਾ

    aapun jus aap hee sunaa

    He Himself listens to His Own Praise.

    ਆਵਨ ਜਾਨੁ ਇਕੁ ਖੇਲੁ ਬਨਾਇਆ

    aavun jaan eik khael bunaaeiaa

    The One has created the drama of coming and going.

    ਆਗਿਆਕਾਰੀ ਕੀਨੀ ਮਾਇਆ

    aagiaakaaree keenee maaeiaa

    He made Maya subservient (lowly, obey) to His Will.

    ਸਭ ਕੈ ਮਧਿ ਅਲਿਪਤੋ ਰਹੈ

    subh kai madh aliputho rehai

    In the midst of all, He remains unattached.

    ਜੋ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਹਣਾ ਸੁ ਆਪੇ ਕਹੈ

    jo kish kehunaa s aapae kehai

    Whatever is said, He Himself says.

    ਆਗਿਆ ਆਵੈ ਆਗਿਆ ਜਾਇ

    aagiaa aavai aagiaa jaae

    By His Will we come, and by His Will we go.

    <a class="dict" href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95">ਨਾਨਕ ਜਾ ਭਾਵੈ ਤਾ ਲਏ ਸਮਾਇ ॥੬॥

    naanuk jaa bhaavai thaa leae sumaae

    O Nanak, when it pleases Him, then He absorbs us into Himself. 6

    One has to read the whole of the above Shabad with great concentration to work out why this life is a mere play. Guru Sahib is saying he controls everything, coming going, liberation everything is under his command. There is nothing we can do apart from accept his will as being sweet. LEARN TO BE.

    Daas would not like to talk too much about this subject, as it is very similar to the Naam Drug article. (Please read the Naam Drug article, as this article will make more sense.)

    Here are a few teachings from Singh Sahib Yogee Harbhajan Singh Jee:

    "When you say I am a God conscious person it means you realize that your mental capacity is infinity."

    "Mind is a unit energy given to you to serve you, be its guide and not its slave."

    "When the one pointed, infinite beam of the mind starts sending the signal into the infinity and the infinity relates to the finite, the unit becomes united and this is called the highest stage of the mind. One will only get to these stages with single-minded loving devotion."

  10. Wrong.

    Coudnt you as a human be wrong?

    Punjabis were only ever having 1 wife? Singher 23, what you have posted is a load of baloney from the neo-sikh know it all camp.

    Since when was Guru Ghar so into elaborate functions?

    Guru Ji had 3 wives as did 6th Guru. There is nothing wrong with having more than 1 wife, and in some parts of india, it is a tradition for woman to be married to more than one man.

    Also what one of you have quoted from Dasam Granth, about not going to the bed of another woman even in dream, is nothing to do with this.

    Sikhi does limit any man or woman in terms of marriage numbers.

    I am not commenting on the number of wives of our Guru Sahib's, but are you saying Bhai Gurdas Ji is a 'neo-sikh'?

    Anyway, even though/if our Guru Sahib had more than one wife (I have no problem with this whatsoever), this does not mean that Sikhs can. Bhai Gurdas Ji makes it very clear in the tuk in my earlier post that a Sikh must have only one spouse.

    If Guru Ji did have more than one wife, there was definetly very good reason for this which Guru Sahib knows, but certainly not for any reason which any normal human being would do so. Guru Sahib also wore a kalgi, sat on a takht, not to mention he is God himself. So to give an example of what Guru Sahib did to say we can aswell is not going to work.

    ਧਨ ਪਿਰੁ ਏਹਿ ਨ ਆਖੀਅਨਿ ਬਹਨਿ ਇਕਠੇ ਹੋਇ ॥

    Dhhan Pir Eaehi N Aakheean Behan Eikathae Hoe ||

    They are not said to be husband and wife, who merely sit together.

    ਏਕ ਜੋਤਿ ਦੁਇ ਮੂਰਤੀ ਧਨ ਪਿਰੁ ਕਹੀਐ ਸੋਇ ॥੩॥

    Eaek Joth Dhue Moorathee Dhhan Pir Keheeai Soe ||3||

    They alone are called husband and wife, who have one light in two bodies. ||3|| (Ang 788, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj)

    Note it says two bodies, not three or four or five!

  11. ਏਕਾ ਨਾਰੀ ਜਤੀ ਹੋਇ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ਧੀ ਭੈਣ ਵਖਾਣੈ।

    aykaa naaree jatee hoi par naaree dhee bhain vakhaanai.

    एका नारी जती होइ पर नारी धी भैण वखाणै ।

    Having one woman as wife he (the Sikh) is a celebate and considers any other's wife as his daughter or a sister.

    3 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੬ ਪਉੜੀ ੮ ਪੰ. ੩

    (Bhai Gurdas Vara)

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