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i can see color into black and white but not the other way round. but found this... http://www.black-and-white-to-color.com/mainsite/ bhajanpreet thanks for helping, and you too sunny, really appreciate Bhul Chukke Muaff

yeah thats why i asked, i knew they coloured it in. not only did they color that, the UK channel ITV presented "The british raaj in color", world war 1 in color world war 2 in color and of course other things from the raaj over 100 years ago all over the world. although technology can produce films into color, is there anyway of photographic images being coloured (given that the negatives we have are in good condition), and if so, where? just wandering if any sangat knows this, really would appreciate if sangat can tell us. i am sure they can be coloured, but is this technology present in leicester by any chance? Bhul Chukke Muaff

any idea if black and white images can now be edited in such a way that they can now be produced in colour given that we have the black and white negatives? just went through an old photo album (32 years old?), as you have probably guessed, its in black and white. also had another rummage and found the original negatives still intact. so, just wanted to ask sangat, is there any way to get these photos coloured and produced in color given that we have the original negatives? did look at the negatives and they are like in black and red. if so, any idea where abouts in the UK (and if possible, anywhere in leicester?) Bhul Chukke Muaff

nope it says code error, any other way to find out?

WJKK WJKF theres a raag darbar going on which is being broadcasted on alpha etc channel punjabi can any member of the sangat please record this and upload this onto the net? please sangat can anyone from the sangat do this? Bhul Chukke Muaff

ok, some of you may know i have had problems texting over the last few monthes and above now. i cant send texts and everytime i do send a text it says "message sending failed" recently i asked sangat to please help me correct the problem (kurtas, i ttold you my phone was the nokia 6600 and you gave me a code) the only problem is each time i punched in the code it asked for my security lock code (i had no idea i had one to begin with). ive tried pressing 11111 and 00000, but it still says access denied. is there anyway to find out what my security lock code is? and kurtas veerji, please can you tell me the codes to resetting the phone to normal again? Bhul Chukke Muaff

found the disk now, so sab kuch theek hai singh ji, thank you for suggesting the above however!

can anyone please find me the software to installing the "samsung digimax A7 7.0 megapix camera" i really want to put some pics up onto my pc (as we just had a family function) but there is so much stuff around here that (god forbid!) i have lost the cd to instaling the camera. can anyone please put the software up online, i need it fast! bhul chukke muaff

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A benti to the admin to make this a sticky Waheguru Ji Ka khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Gurmukh pyaare Bhai Sahib Sant Singh Ji Maskeen has asked me about what happened on the 5th (implying fifth of June 1984). Sarkar (meaning himself) saw a lot and I have been asked to talk about the 5th. Because on that day at 7.30 I went to Sri Akal Takhat Sahib. There Mahapursh (Jarnail Singh Ji) Khalsa Bhinderanwale, with Baba Jarnail Singh Ji I had his darshan (saw him) and I gave out a bachan (order) as well. The time was roughly 7.30, and there were a lot of bullets flying about. After I met Sant Ji, I went to the inside of Sri Darbar Sahib, to see if the rehraas would be carried out by gurmukh pyaara Singh Sahib Gyaani Mohan Singh. When the bullets had increased even more, he could not get to Darbar Sahib (implying he was at the Akal Takhat). I came down from the Akal Takhat Sahib and at that time a lot of bullets were going off. I saw a few Singhs sitting below as they did a protest and I was able to sit with them for a while. I eventually said to them “Bhai Gurmukho! Please make sure Bhai Mohan Singh is able to pass here safely (Gyaani Mohan Singh at the time being at the Akal Takhat as well).” And they made sure of that. And they also made sure that the rehraas at Sri Akal Takhat Sahib also took place as well. The rehraas sahib at Sri Harimandir Sahib starts five minutes earlier than the rehraas done at Akal Takhat Sahib. As the bullets increased, i realised that Gyaani Mohan Singh could not pass without (most likely) being hit. I ran from Sri Akal Takhat Sahib, in doing so a bullet had just missed me and hit Darshani Deori. I rested at Darshani Deori for two minutes and had a little rest. And the bullets increased even more so I decided to run towards Siri Harimandir Sahib, in doing so, a bullet did hit the Harimandir Sahib. I went and the rehraas had started by me (gyaani Mohan Singh should have done the duty, but he was too late to do so). In doing so, Gyaani Mohan Singh also came at the same time as well (just). Our problem was that there were twenty-two other Singhs inside the sanctorum. In which, there were some pyaara and sewadars with us there (high spirited people). We, when we began to do the rehraas da bhog, the bullets started hitting darbar sahib and a lot of smoke was around as well. From our side, we could not do the swaree of Maharaj and take him outside. We did the sukhasan and took maharaj to the top floor of Harimandir Sahib, and that is where we were. At the time of 10pm did the tanks roll in (first the fight was going outside of the sanctorum, and eventually came in with the help of Tanks). With the bullets and fighting going around, the town was ablaze eventually. We saw from the top of Darbar Sahib that a lot of bullets were going off. We saw a fire engine with the lights blazing on top trying to put out the flames in the town. They took water from the sarover (holy water) to put out the flames. A little time later did it come into the parikarma. First two fire brigades came, and then more and more, in doing so they were putting out the flames that the pilgrims had on them, we heard women crying. The war had finished taking place on the outside of the whole complex with four tanks rolling in and literally setting the complex ablaze. With our own eyes did we see from the top of darbar sahib people who were set alight running into the sarowar to cool themselevs. At 10pm, everything beyond Darshani Deori was under Military Occupation. Then did I see Singhs fighting, I think there were at least fourty or fifty. The other Singhs had their links cut off. They fought so bravely did each a single Singh fight, and they carried on until they became shaheed (matyred) or until their ammunition had finished. Two Singhs doing the Jaikara (Sikh war cry of “Bole So Nihal!) with great prem, only to be greeted by other Singhs with the same amount of Joash (enthusiasm). From 10pm till half four were we on the top floor of Sri Darbar Sahib witnessing all this (along with Gyaani Mohan Singh). We did Maharaj di Swari , did the prakash and took the hukamnama and then did the Asa Di // da kirtan start. The raagi Singhs from that day are no longer with us. Because after they did their duty, they went. Bhai Amrik Singh is probably the only one who survived (as a raagi) but the other Raagi Singhs had got their shaheedi (matyred) outside Darshani Deori. Inside, the jatha of Bhai Randhir Singh, who on that day did the Asa Di //. From that group, Bhai Avtaar Singh had got shaheedi inside the Darbar Sahib. He closed one of the doors and in doing so, he got his shaheedi there. From there on, all four sides of Darbar Sahib were being shot at. One of the bullets hit Dhan Shiri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, in which, this bir is still present. This is a puratan bir given by Maharaja Ranjit Singh. This was the bir that we did the prakash on that day. The whole night passed on like so. Even the next day passed just the same as well. Just before 4pm the next day the army began to throw gas bombs at Sri Akal Takhat Sahib. If they had not done this, it is possible that the Singhs would have carried on fighting all day, and all night. A Singh does the Jaikara with great prem, only to be greeted by other Singhs with the same amount of Joash (enthusiasm). Around the Darbar Sahib did they do all this. At half four, the commander of the Army (Brar) had set up a few speakers near Darshani Deori and asked if there were any survivors (i.e. child, woman, any elderly etc) was around. They did not let one pilgrim away from their site. All were shot. There were probably a few survivors who hid amongst the corpses. At that time, the twenty two Singhs with us had got up (after saying Sat Siri Akal). Me and Gyaani Mohan Singh gave a message to the Singhs to tell the officers that there were still two singh sahibs inside the Darbar Sahib. And if you want to call them, you will have send your troops to get us. A Singh does the Jaikara with great prem, only to be greeted by other Singhs with the same amount of Joash. When the Singhs told Brar about this, he did not believe them. He went on the speakers and said the message three times to the Singh Sahib’s (the two Granthi Singhs in the darbar) to come out with their hands held up in the air. We both came to the conclusion that if we walk out with our hands in the air, and walk towards them, they could well easily shoot us, what’s the point of that? Therefor, we were prepared to get shaheedi in the Darbar Sahib itself and in doing so, we would be well remembered after that. For this, we refused to come out with our hands in the air and walk towards them. So, from half four till half seven did we stay in the Darbar Sahib. Then at 7.30 did two troopers come with a sewadar (helper) to call us. When we came out, that Singh was alive, just after we came he died. We gave them water and then the soldier said it was meant to be (the Singh dying). Me and Gyaani Mohan Singh replied that if we live we will make sure we will think about something against you. Then from there did Brar start speaking through the speaker and said to his soldiers that no-one is allowed to fire at these two. We walked out of the bridge leading to Darshan Deori. And when we came out of Darshani Deori, we saw the Akal Takhat reduced to rubble. We saw some Singhs mangled in the rubble. When we came towards Brar, he said Sat Sri Akal to both of us. He said that he was a Sikh as well and asked what we would like to do. We replied and said we need to get put of here, it had been along time since they had urinated and nor were we able to get water and we are in great pain. We suggested to Brar that he called for two Singh Sahibs to escort us, but he did not agree. So we said at least let us go to the toilets then. That he agreed to that. After going to the toilets, we washed our hands and washed our faces. By that time it was 8pm now. At that time as well, no-one knew about the whereabouts of Sant Ji. When we returned, we were asked “where is Bhinderanwale, we will not say anything, and nor will we kill him.” Singhs now saying “Bhinderanwale Zindabad” We replied “Brothers, we were inside Darbar Sahib all that time. We do not know about Sant Ji. You should know, you have either killed him or you have released him.” The Soldiers then said that on the top of Darbar Sahib were fitted machine guns. We then replied that “Not one fighting Singh entered Darbar Sahib and not one bullet came out of Darbar Sahib during all that time.” They were not ready to believe. They killed a lot of our people and there were a lot of bullets hitting Siri Harimandir Sahib. They wanted proof to our claims, we were more than happy to prove our claims. Five people came with us, one of them being a Singh (an officer) who wanted to observe our claims. When we began to walk, the Singh said (out of the blue) “you go first and we will follow you. If our Jawans (Soldiers) start getting shot, we will shoot you.” We said “Yes fire at us, because no-one here will fire.” They looked at the top of Darbar Sahib and saw no machine gun as first stated by the army. I said to the officer “You are an officer and you said that we fitted machine guns from the top of Darbar Sahib, if there was a machine gun fitted, then sandbags would have been there as well, and you have not even seen one sandbag here, now say if a bullet came from here.” The officer gave no answer and eventually said no bullet came from here. Then the Singh came…. Gyaani Ji interrupted by a Singh, who does the Jaikara with great prem, only to be greeted by other Singhs with the same amount of Joash. And when we came across that Singh, he said that one Singh became shaheed (reference to Bhai Avtaar Singh), we took one of the cloths from Darbar Sahib (chadar) and clothed it around Bhai Sahib Ji. And the whole day passed like that, it was only on the seventh June 7.30 were we permitted to go home. Just when we got out of the complex were we informed that three bodies had been confirmed (Sant Ji, Bhai Amrik Singh and Bhai Shubeg Singh). I asked the Singh officer where they found the body of Sant Ji, and replied that it had been found he had been found between the two Nishaan Sahibs. The other two bodies had been found just behind the Nishaan Sahibs. However, we got a report that Sant Ji’s body had been confirmed elsewhere (I think it says in a room in the Akal Takhat Sahib). They did not show us the body of Sant Ji and no-one else either. At 7.30 we went home. It was only then that the military had called for Singh Sahib Gyaani Sahib Singh (the then head Granthi of Darbar Sahib). They told him the same about Sant Ji’s body, and he politely asked to see the body. They did not show him either, the body. That is why…. A Singh is about to do the Jaikara, but Singhs interrupt him. A small scuffle takes place. If Sant Ji was truly found, they would have asked us to prove if this was Sant Ji. Even when Gyaani Sahib Singh asked to see the body, even then he was not shown it. Gyaani Sahib Singh had asked for the body another three times, and was greeted by a soldier saying that if he went anywhere near where the body is now he would be shot. But they did not show it him. For this, if they truly had Sant Ji’s body, they would have done exactly what they did when they paraded the shasters (weapons). With the Shasters, they would have shown Sant Ji as well. Or, they would have killed another person who did a small talk on this issue and have placed images everywhere in which, the sarkar would have spent some money giving out these posters. The military claim that a few hundreds of pilgrims were killed. The same military said that they lost 100 men in this operation. not hundreds, thousands of pilgrims were killed and the same amount of Soldiers were killed. A Singh does the Jaikara with great prem, only to be greeted by other Singhs with the same amount of Joash. And to that body…. A Singh does the Jaikara with great prem, only to be greeted by other Singhs with the same amount of Joash. They would have posted it and make the Sikh nation look stupid, and always on television it would be paraded. It could be that the Delhi government had the body and kept it for a long while, but it turned out that even then they did not get the body, therefor, it shows he is not shaheed (matyred). Many Singhs do the Jaikara with great prem, only to be greeted by other Singhs with the same amount of Joash. During this time, Gyaani Ji is reminded about something else and eventually goes on to talk about something else. Another thing I must talk about something else. It’s very interesting! Only two minutes more! On the seventh, when we came home. The Head Granthi was with the military. A Jatha (group) of four Singhs were stationed near the Ramgharia Bunga. Here they dug up a trench. These Singhs were still fighting. Three Soldiers from the Army went towards the trench. One of them was a doctor and a captain followed by two military. The four Singhs pulled three of the military people and killed them. A Singh tries to say the Jaikara, only for Gyaani ji to interrupt him and let him finish on what he wants to say. The military gave these orders that they should release the Soldiers (if alive) and these Singhs should come out with their hands in the air. The Singhs wanted another Singh to talk to them (who survived the attack), and then they would come out by a freed Singhs orders. Not otherwise. The military brought me back to the complex to speak to these Singhs. When I came, Gyaani Sahib Singh was there as well. The army wanted me to speak to them. There were two officers with us, one Singh and a Hindu brigadier. I said i wanted them to meet my demands that if I managed to get them out, then they must not be shot upon. The two soldiers said “This we cannot say, but you will have to talk to this man.” I spoke to the Brigadier and he said they would not be killed here. I knew they may not shoot here, but would most likely take him elsewhere to shoot him. This I said to the Brigadier and explained this will be a burden on my head, in doing so I would be leading these Singhs to their death and other kharkoo (brave) Singhs would be after me. i said don’t kill them but instead do what the law rightfully says. The Brigadier answered back and said “three of our men have been killed, find out if that officer/doctor is alive still. Then we will forgive them and we will not shoot them. I began to speak on the speakers and said “Singho! Many have become matyrs and you are still here. Please say what you want.” The Singhs replied with “Whatever order you give us, we will do.” When I asked about the doctor and about three men coming their way and if any of them were alive. The Singh replied that no military person was alive in their dug up. The Brigadier then said to me “Baba ji (old wise man), you may go, we will take them out now.” Even that, all day they fought. The other night they fought, the other day they fought. When Gyaani Zail Singh came, even then the Singh were fighting. The Singhs can be heard rejoicing. Gyaani ji is asking for calm now. And after that I will say Fateh (the Sikh greeting). The Singhs kept fighting even when Gyaani Zail Singh came (the then President of India). Now its getting out of control, Gyaani Ji pauses. so Gyaani Zail Singh was going to come Singhs start getting rowdy and shout It carried on until Gyaani Zail Singh came Here it gets more rowdy, if you listen carefully, you can hear Singh telling Gyaani Puran Singh "Gyaani Na Kaho" (don’t call him Gyaani) in which Gyaani Puran Singh replies with "acha acha" (Ok). Sorry, until Zail Singh came, they stopped fighting. And at that time, some people reckoned that the Singhs had shot Zail Singh. But no, if they knew that their enemy was here, they would have perhaps shot him. But considering the fact the Singhs were in a trench, they obviously did not know. At that time, a Colnel of the military was one of the commandos. I saw with my own eyes he had a gun, which had a battery fitted on top (meaning, he had an Electro gun). Which could fire at night. He tried to shoot, but they took him to the trench. From there, some people began to fire at the bungas (some of the towers around the complex, hoping that the debris would hit the Singhs). But nothing happened. Then the Army began to throw grenades. The Army told me that the grenades were of no use, considering they carried on firing. They compared the bodies of these singhs to how the earth gives out pure water (as in when water comes out from the ground, which is something rare!). Singhs begin to mutter, Gyaani Ji stops. Those Singhs were eventually flushed out with grenades that had with them red peppers. They would light the peppers, throw it towards the Singhs, and throw smoke bombs. This proved very effective on the Singhs eyes. Then one Singh got out right from the trench and was shot (became shaheed), the other three were looking for water as they got out and even they attained shaheedi. On the 10th they attained Shaheedi (matyrdom). There are so many other things I could talk to you about. What I saw myself, I have not told anyone else what I did, this is the first time i have told anyone about my experiences, slowly and slowly i will tell everyone these stories. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

does anyone know how to restore black and white digital photos into coloured pics? i took this pic in black and white and now kinda regret doing that because it should have been in color, is there any way of restoring the pic? its kinda a private photo so i really dont want to put this up on ss, if anyone can restore pics as such can anyone please pm me or say here? thanks Bhul Chukke Muaff

can anyone here be able to record keertan from darbar sahib and upload it onto the net? the keertan is on alpha ETC punjabi (or zee punjabi to other countries) it is by Bhai Sarbjit Singh Rangila durg http://www.gurmatsangeetproject.com/Images...arbjitSingh.jpg can anyone record it and upload it? Bhul Chukke Muaff

Baba Ji is coming tomorrow also (i think that has been confirmed) Bhul Chukke Muaff

ahaha, thank you guys all so much had so many presents aaj as well economics assignment for my economics teacher maths psychology assignments from those teachers oh and media, lets not forget our media just what i always wanted...assignments...YAY! anyway, just joking (but i did get some work from school...come on i got A levels to get through!) other than that i have to admit, had one of the best days of our life thank you sangato, especially SarabLoh paji for the FAR TOO FLATTENING post. Bhul Chukke Muaff

Baba Ji is coming at 5ish confirmed (just spoke to one of the sewadars of welford road), Bhul Chukke Muaff

haha awwww thanks, "dont stress too much..! " haha how can i not when i got 12 exams coming up soon! stay in chardikala

WJKK WJKF baba ji did not come yesterday, however gyaaniji did say he would come, but after ringing them yesterday, they are supposed to come today please take into account baba ji da koi bharoasa nahi huinda and he comes when he wants to come but he may be coming ajj Bhul Chukke Muaff

WJKK WJKF Das is happy to report to the sangat of leicester that sant baba jaswant singh ji khalsa ludhihana wale is set to come to leicester to the ashford road gurdwara (off welford road) from what das has found, he is set to be coming rougly 5-6 ish but it is has been confirmed he is coming today, so benti to the sangat, if you can come, please do come Baba Ji was in southall saturday, coventry on monday and now leicester aaj (not sure if they will also come tomorrow) Bhul Chukke Muaff

i dont know my own stupid code, anyway to find out?

K bhenji thanks a million, Kurtas Veerji... i have the infamous brick... the nokia 6600 (O2 sim)... http://techdigestuk.typepad.com/photos/unc...ont1_lowres.jpg i have no idea all this techincal stuff like text number, i only know how to phone, text, take stupid pics of people...i dont know anything else!!! Bhul Chukke Muaff

oh come on singho! not one of you can say where the topic in regards to activating your O2 texts has gone? kurtas paji im looking at you (i thought you knew the codes?) basically the situation is my phone doesnt let me send texts, and when it does it delays it for a while and even then it says message sending failed. im sure i saw somewhere on this forum last week a code that worked for a singhani and id like to ask the sangat where has this topic gone? Bhul Chukke Muaff

where has the thread in regards to activating your 02 text sim gone off, can someone find it here please? bhul chukke muaff

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thank ju!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am sure 90% he is coming soon, but wanted to know if theres an exact date. Bhul Chukke Muaff

any idea when Sant Baba Jaswant Singh Ji Ludhihana Wale is coming to the UK? i am sure hes coming soon but does sangat know the exact date? Bhul Chukke Muaff