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When Bhai Rama Singh explains his dream about Khalistan, his description of the economy fits with that of communism. Everyone would work for 4 hours of the day and this work/money would go to the state.

Capitalism is all about making more money and greed.

Communism is the biggest fraud on human kind and it is just the mirage which sends man to destruction why we follow failed system as sikhism has given us the perfect system and economy it is question of understanding communism and communists r our enemies which deserves to be wiped out.

I was wondering if you guys thought that sikhism supported a communist economy with a democratic government. Since Sikhism supports equality for all and also that monetary value does not count toward your true life achievements, I believe that a communist economy would work for us. In a communist nation, all the money is given back to the government and then redistributed equally toward all citizens. All citizens would do their work as hard as they can for their country so that It can survive.

Countries like Russia and China aren't communist economy's because some people make more money then others. The only part of these countries that is communist is the how the government works. China doesn't even have elections.

If the Sikhs ever had a nation of their own I think a Communist Democracy would work. The people elect their leaders, the leaders make sure there is no low class or high class, only a middle class.

I know that there is currently no country that works like this because it wouldn't work with selfish citizens. A country needs to supply its people with food. All governments that fall or have rebellions, are ones that can't supply its people with food. If a country has a communist economy, it is possible that the workers won't work hard, because they know they will get paid the same as others. This can cause a collapse in the government system.

I believe if any people could make a communist democracy work, it would be the Sikhs. Have a government that works like America, but then an economy that works as communism. We would need strong citizens and strong leaders.

Unless I'm mistaken in my readings, Bhagat Singh supported have a communist system and was an admirer of Vladimir Lenin, the creator of the USSR.

Thoughts?

Simple ansewer No,Communists don't believe in God we do ,Communists oppose creation of Khalistan

Just because communists don't believe in god, that means its not a good concept. Its not like a religous communism wouldnt work. theirs no difference. Your simply saying that the communists that are in india and elsewhere are a certain way, thats total besides the point. Did you read the whole message? I spoke about a communist economy, not a communist form of government.

No communist system is failure and sikhism gives complete ideology we need only codification MARXISM is mirage which plays fraud upon the people communists of punjab r biggest enemies of sikhs who r involed in killings of sikh famlies only relation with communist pigs is to destroy them h.s sujeet, satpal dang r enemies of sikhs . furhter we have best concept of LANGAR, PANGAT, AND VAND KE CHAKNA why we adopt the failed imported and fraudy system BOOKS OF marxism deserved to be dumped in drains it should be best treatment and their followers in Punjab deserved to be killed.

Tactics and strategy are the key to all fighting, that is undoubtably true. Hawk could you explain the neetiya and sidant that should be applied in a street environment rather then a battlefield environment, you obviously wont dig a trench in the street would you? How should you engage a single opponent in the street, what penthreh and strategies would be employed, and also what fighting concepts are to be used and also what are the key principles in fighting in order to be the victor?

See veer ji u have put up a good question I as a young boy along with my family was surrounded by 500 mob in 1984 I just took my shotgun and aimed at main power lines so that with single shot live wire could have burst and felt on mob killing most of them my target will be to kill all then u can end up killing 100 or so. in single combat karete skills are best along with dobble edged kashmiri kirpans if need be use it in split second every martial art is good but revolver not the pistol is the handy weapon in case of mob or group attacks shotguns and rifles r very useful particular bugshots r good even .22 rifles r simplest and best to use. Even GATKA IS USEFUL recently jhoota sauda men armed with rifles were overpowered by 24 singhs expert in GATKA and dera chief has to run after leaving one of his shoes. BHUL CHUK MAUF EVEN IAM NOT MASTER BUT A HUMBLE SINGH

Police also misbeaved with the relatives and singhs true tribute will be to throw out anti sikh parties such as BJP,CPI, CPM ,CONGRESS from Punjab and blaken the faces of Bhatal, DULLO, comrades , badals ,dhinsas and fight for khalstan . KHALASTAN ZINDABAD ,DHOTI TOPI YAMUNA PARR DEATH TO ENEMIES OF KHALSA. DEATH BHAJAN LAL, SAJAN KUMAR ,SUMEDH SAINI RSS,H.S SURJEET

Jagtar Singh Hawara and Balwant singh have been given death penalties today and police also lathicharged the sikhs and relatives of singhs .This shows facsist face of the state it is high time anti sikh socalled national parties such as bjp congress leftists must be thrown out of punjab and anti sikh leaders like dullo, bhatal hs surjeet should be garlanded with shoes.

Thank you for enlightening me about combat history and skill as practiced by the Indian army etc and yourself, what is your opinion on the art of Kalaripayatu? and Vajra Mushti? I mean its no comparison to “bending bars with your chest” as you stated, but how do you compare these two arts with what you practice?

see veer ji every martial art is good but in order to win the battle u need milatary strategy . I will u the example of battle of somnath in 1026 AD where lakhs of fighters were defeated and mauled by MEHMOOD GAZNI reason who have just 30 thouand troops only were muslims better martial art experts answer is no muslims dug up trenches in planned maaner and kept 5000 reserve troops which attacked in last ,same happened in battle of traian i1192 AD when PRTIVI RAJ CHAUHAN army of 8 lacs were humbled by Mohhamed Gauri army of 1 lac 20 thouand muslims kept 10 thouand reserve and muslims were expert in horse riding and were so expert in archery while riding that while racing they used to shot plenty of arrows unlike hindus these r some of few examples . Now I come to sikh parts GURU GOBIND SINGH JI were first one to introduce milatary exercises and division of troops HOLA MOHAALA was the milatary exercises held annualy for 15-20 days where sikhs were divided into rival troops and practise fighting. But regular exercises were introduced by British general MOUNTGOOMERY when allied forces were facing defeats at the hands of germans despite opposition from allied commanders in1941 . Tactics introduced by GURU JI helped sikhs to defend againist the most powerful enemies. Now there is greater need for sikhs to learn and practice these tactics along with modern tactics in order to survive.

u R MESSING NOT ME NICE U MOVE LIKE LIGHTNIN BUT UR MOVES SHALL BE OF NOUSE AGAINIST A PERSON WHO TWISTS BIG IRON ROD WITH HIS MIGHTY CHEST OR WHO CAN FIRE AT THE HEARING OF SOUND BE CAREFUL

what if that sound is coming from another gun targeting at you, would u shoot wind or shoot from your gun then? :wub:

These r reflexes one learns from specific training u can estimate the enemy correctly even blinfolding u can assemble the weapon in seconds in case of fired upon reaction shall be in splilt seconds try to do it practically then making comments on others it will help u in defending urself.

Why on earth would you want to be blindfolded while assembling your weapon? Does it not make more sense to look at what you’re doing? I mean how many Singhs do you know that went in to combat blindfolded?

see this is part of guerilla warfare or commando training only words differ it will help u in specific situations do not take it to ur heart only persons with milatary training and knowldge can understand these basic tactics u will also comment about survival training tactics like the indian army generals did before kargil conflict that in nuclear age and in hitech age these r outdated but took heavy beating in kargil. Blindfolding assemling will help u enhacing ur understanding of weapons and helpful in operations in darkness u r forgetting that it were singhs who used to strike in darkness and introduced nightfighting in medival times ur post shows ur ignorance of milatary tactics and guerlia tactics which teaches u to remaining fit in each situation these r common to us as I come from the family of legendary singh fighters and very decorated soldiers that is why it is said those sweat in peace bleeds less in war. That is why this is my opinion every singh should be tyar per tyar.during nov 1984 anti sikh killings ALTHOUGH I was young at that time I was repulsh the mob with gun successful learn these tactics than commenting it will help u in selfdefence.

u R MESSING NOT ME NICE U MOVE LIKE LIGHTNIN BUT UR MOVES SHALL BE OF NOUSE AGAINIST A PERSON WHO TWISTS BIG IRON ROD WITH HIS MIGHTY CHEST OR WHO CAN FIRE AT THE HEARING OF SOUND BE CAREFUL

what if that sound is coming from another gun targeting at you, would u shoot wind or shoot from your gun then? :wub:

These r reflexes one learns from specific training u can estimate the enemy correctly even blinfolding u can assemble the weapon in seconds in case of fired upon reaction shall be in splilt seconds try to do it practically then making comments on others it will help u in defending urself.

Why on earth would you want to be blindfolded while assembling your weapon? Does it not make more sense to look at what you’re doing? I mean how many Singhs do you know that went in to combat blindfolded?

see this is part of guerilla warfare or commando training only words differ it will help u in specific situations do not take it to ur heart only persons with milatary training and knowldge can understand these basic tactics u will also comment about survival training tactics like the indian army generals did before kargil conflict that in nuclear age and in hitech age these r outdated but took heavy beating in kargil. Blindfolding assemling will help u enhacing ur understanding of weapons and helpful in operations in darkness u r forgetting that it were singhs who used to strike in darkness and introduced nightfighting in medival times ur post shows ur ignorance of milatary tactics and guerlia tactics which teaches u to remaining fit in each situation these r common to us as I come from the family of legendary singh fighters and very decorated soldiers that is why it is said those sweat in peace bleeds less in war. That is why this is my opinion every singh should be tyar per tyar.during nov 1984 anti sikh killings ALTHOUGH I was young at that time I was repulsh the mob with gun successful learn these tactics than commenting it will help u in selfdefence.

You have to give a definition of each, what does it mean to be Amritdhari, Sehjdhari?

I know what amritdhari is, but does sehjdhari implies someone who keeps hair, does path etc but havent taken amrit? or does sehajdhari means someone who has cut their hair but still believe in sikh way of life.

Those who have cutt their hair r not sehajdharis but PATITS SEHAJDHHARI term has been misinterpreted by rss and communist people sehajdhari as per SGPC ACT 1925 is that person with uncutt hair but without AMRIT.

What are you talking about? Sehajdhari applies to those who don't keep their 5 k's. There is also a term called "keshdhari" in SGPC Act 1925 as well. They're sikhs who wear turbans, but never took amrit. Patit is describe in SGPC act 1925 as keshdhari who trim/cut their hair and amritdhari who commit one of 4-5 sins.

THE SIKH GURDWARAS ACT, 1925:

Sikh “Sikh” means a person who professes the Sikh religion or, in the case of a deceased person, who professed the Sikh religion or was known to be a Sikh during his life time. If any question arises as to whether any living person is or is not a Sikh, he shall be deemed respectively to be or not to be a Sikh according as he makes or refuses to make in such manner as the [Provincial Government], may prescribe the following declaration:-

I solemnly affirm that I am a Sikh, that I believe in the Guru Granth Sahib, that I believe in the Ten Gurus and that I have no other religion

“Amritdhari Sikh” means and includes every person who has taken khande-ka-amrit or khanda pahul prepared and administered according to the tenets of Sikh religion and rites, at the hands of five pyaras or `beloved ones’.”

“Patit” means a person who being a keshadhari Sikh trims or shaves his beard or keshas or who after taking amrit commits any one or more of the kurahits].”

[49. Qualifications of electors.— Every person shall be entitled to have his name registered on the electoral roll of a constituency constituted for the election of a member or members of the Board who is a resident in that constituency and either—

(i) is on the electoral roll for the time being in force of persons entitled to vote for the election of a member to represent a Sikh urban or rural constituency of the [Provincial Assembly], or

(ii) is a Sikh more than twenty-one years of age, who has had his name registered as a voter in such manner as may be prescribed:

Provided that no person shall be registered as an elector who—

(a) trims or shaves his beard or keshas except in case of sehjdhari;

(b) smokes;

© takes alcoholic drinks.]

Notice how sehajdhari are excluded when comes to hair?

http://punjablaws.gov.pk/laws/33.html#_ftnref49

u r just showing unamended act as per new amended act added by in 2001 SEHAJDHARI has been redifined which was challenaged in PUNJAB AND HARYANA HIGH COURT BUT DB LED BY SINGHVI PASSED ORDER IN FAVOUR OF AMENDMENT AND SO BADLY SNUBED THE PETITIONERS AND ASKED THEM IF THEY CONSISDER THEMSELVES HIGHER THAN GURU JI REHAT CANNOT BE ALTERED . SEHAJDHARI FEDERATION CHIEF WITH RSS LINKS WENT TO SUPREME COURT DESPITE THE FACT THAT CASE WAS ADMITTED IN HIGH COURT AND WAS PENDING AND SEHAJDHARI CHIEF WAS ASKED TO GET OUT OF SUPREME COURT AND THEIR ADVOCATE ALSO GOT GOOD DRESSING DOWN BY JUDGES WHICH IS ON RECORD AND THESE RSS AGENTS KEEP ON BOASTING BUT AND 2004 ELECTIONS WERE HELD ACCORDING TO NEW AMENDMENT WHICH DEFINES SEHAJDHARI AS THOSE SIKHS WITH UNCUTT HAIR BUT WITHOUT AMRIT. DO NOT MISLEAD OTHERS BY UNAMENDED ACT NEW ACT WITH AMENDMENT IS AVAILALE IN A BOOK WRITTEN BY ADVOCATE NAVKIRAN SINGH PLEASE GO THROUGH NEW ACT. even old SEHAJDHARI DEFINITION was through act in 90s which created a lot of heat

Dude, don’t type all your letters on caps lock. It is hard to read.

Anyway, you said the act 1925 has been changed? If so, then can you please provide me the new act?

It has been written repealed by amendment of 2001 old definition of sehsjdhari has been of 1925 has been added for details u can search pand h high court website orders were deliverved by judges after going through sikh history now sikhs with uncutt hair r sehajdhari do not carry away by propagation of leftists and rss now in 2004 elctions and future elctions to be held by new amendment sehajdhari federation got good dressing down at supreme court and high court by taking stay on elections otherwise elections were due on 2001. I have mentioned the single line that is amendment if u have any doubts u can ask through this forum my humble request is do not get mislead by anti panthic forces unfoutunately new act has only one book written navkiran singh there is no book on all gurdwara rules in detail.

You have to give a definition of each, what does it mean to be Amritdhari, Sehjdhari?

I know what amritdhari is, but does sehjdhari implies someone who keeps hair, does path etc but havent taken amrit? or does sehajdhari means someone who has cut their hair but still believe in sikh way of life.

Those who have cutt their hair r not sehajdharis but PATITS SEHAJDHHARI term has been misinterpreted by rss and communist people sehajdhari as per SGPC ACT 1925 is that person with uncutt hair but without AMRIT.

What are you talking about? Sehajdhari applies to those who don't keep their 5 k's. There is also a term called "keshdhari" in SGPC Act 1925 as well. They're sikhs who wear turbans, but never took amrit. Patit is describe in SGPC act 1925 as keshdhari who trim/cut their hair and amritdhari who commit one of 4-5 sins.

THE SIKH GURDWARAS ACT, 1925:

Sikh “Sikh” means a person who professes the Sikh religion or, in the case of a deceased person, who professed the Sikh religion or was known to be a Sikh during his life time. If any question arises as to whether any living person is or is not a Sikh, he shall be deemed respectively to be or not to be a Sikh according as he makes or refuses to make in such manner as the [Provincial Government], may prescribe the following declaration:-

I solemnly affirm that I am a Sikh, that I believe in the Guru Granth Sahib, that I believe in the Ten Gurus and that I have no other religion

“Amritdhari Sikh” means and includes every person who has taken khande-ka-amrit or khanda pahul prepared and administered according to the tenets of Sikh religion and rites, at the hands of five pyaras or `beloved ones’.”

“Patit” means a person who being a keshadhari Sikh trims or shaves his beard or keshas or who after taking amrit commits any one or more of the kurahits].”

[49. Qualifications of electors.— Every person shall be entitled to have his name registered on the electoral roll of a constituency constituted for the election of a member or members of the Board who is a resident in that constituency and either—

(i) is on the electoral roll for the time being in force of persons entitled to vote for the election of a member to represent a Sikh urban or rural constituency of the [Provincial Assembly], or

(ii) is a Sikh more than twenty-one years of age, who has had his name registered as a voter in such manner as may be prescribed:

Provided that no person shall be registered as an elector who—

(a) trims or shaves his beard or keshas except in case of sehjdhari;

(b) smokes;

© takes alcoholic drinks.]

Notice how sehajdhari are excluded when comes to hair?

http://punjablaws.gov.pk/laws/33.html#_ftnref49

u r just showing unamended act as per new amended act added by in 2001 SEHAJDHARI has been redifined which was challenaged in PUNJAB AND HARYANA HIGH COURT BUT DB LED BY SINGHVI PASSED ORDER IN FAVOUR OF AMENDMENT AND SO BADLY SNUBED THE PETITIONERS AND ASKED THEM IF THEY CONSISDER THEMSELVES HIGHER THAN GURU JI REHAT CANNOT BE ALTERED . SEHAJDHARI FEDERATION CHIEF WITH RSS LINKS WENT TO SUPREME COURT DESPITE THE FACT THAT CASE WAS ADMITTED IN HIGH COURT AND WAS PENDING AND SEHAJDHARI CHIEF WAS ASKED TO GET OUT OF SUPREME COURT AND THEIR ADVOCATE ALSO GOT GOOD DRESSING DOWN BY JUDGES WHICH IS ON RECORD AND THESE RSS AGENTS KEEP ON BOASTING BUT AND 2004 ELECTIONS WERE HELD ACCORDING TO NEW AMENDMENT WHICH DEFINES SEHAJDHARI AS THOSE SIKHS WITH UNCUTT HAIR BUT WITHOUT AMRIT. DO NOT MISLEAD OTHERS BY UNAMENDED ACT NEW ACT WITH AMENDMENT IS AVAILALE IN A BOOK WRITTEN BY ADVOCATE NAVKIRAN SINGH PLEASE GO THROUGH NEW ACT. even old SEHAJDHARI DEFINITION was through act in 90s which created a lot of heat

Dude, don’t type all your letters on caps lock. It is hard to read.

Anyway, you said the act 1925 has been changed? If so, then can you please provide me the new act?

It has been written repealed by amendment of 2001 old definition of sehsjdhari has been of 1925 has been added for details u can search pand h high court website orders were deliverved by judges after going through sikh history now sikhs with uncutt hair r sehajdhari do not carry away by propagation of leftists and rss now in 2004 elctions and future elctions to be held by new amendment sehajdhari federation got good dressing down at supreme court and high court by taking stay on elections otherwise elections were due on 2001. I have mentioned the single line that is amendment if u have any doubts u can ask through this forum my humble request is do not get mislead by anti panthic forces unfoutunately new act has only one book written navkiran singh there is no book on all gurdwara rules in detail.

fateh ji

khalsistan means - land of the pure

bull chuk maaf

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

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There is a thread about this in the sainsoldiers section.

From memory people reckoned khalis was arabic for pure. Shame really as we are not arabic plus in khalistani if you remove the stani portion you end up with khali which means empty in Punjabi and in arabic/persian it means empty and there is a desert called Rub Al Khali in Saudi Arabi.

Looks like some poeple have corrupted Khalsa to Khalis just for convenience and because khalistan(i) sounds better than Khalsastan(i)

MEDIA and some slave fake sikhs have given narrow meaning of sikh nationalism u may call it by any name IN SRI GURU GRANTH SHAIB CONCECPT HAVE BEEN GIVEN IN FORM OF BEGUMPURA OR CITY WITHOUT SORROW and GURU NANAK DEV JI FOR THE FIRST TIME GAVE THE TERM HALIMI RAJ OR TRUE WELFARE STATE in our prayer we makes the plea of KHALSA RAJ in original ARDASS there is order to sit on DELHI TAKHT and MARTYS TO SIKH CAUSE R GREATER THAN BHAGAT SINGH WHO SACRIFICED THEIR FAMLIES WHILE THERE WAS NEVER HARAASMENT OF BHAGAT SINGH RELATIVES. MARTYS TO SIKH CAUSE ARE GREATEST MARTYERS WHO SACRIFICED FOR HUMANITY FROM MEDIVAL TO MODERN TIMES.

even ADC supported the police which shows that civil administration had equal role . In malout also when police opened fire in2003 on singhs protesting againist NOORMEHIALAS then DC USHA SHARMA PRAISED THE POLICE AND BOASTED SHE WAS BEHIND THIS, BREAUCRACY in PUNJAB has anti-sikh bias. TIME WILL COME WHEN THEY WILL BE AT RECIEVING END AS HAPPENED IN RAJASTAN WHERE ANTI GUJAR DCS AND SSPS WERE CHASED OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND OFFICES BY GUJARS. IN PUNJAB MOST OF CIVIL OFFICERS SENDS THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO ABOARD AND CARRY OUT ANTISIKH ORDERS BUT THEY SHOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT IF YOUNG SINGHS ARE TRATED LIKE THIS THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS GOING ABOARD MAY FACE THE HEAT AS SIKHS WILL NOLONGER TOLERATE ANY HUMILATION TO THEIR KS AND MAY LOSE THEIR COOL SUDDENLY AND ERURPT LIKE VOLCANO PERHAPS GOD WANTS IT AND DO NOT BLAME THE SIKHS FOR IT SLOWLY SIKHS ARE LOSING THEIR COOL .

You have to give a definition of each, what does it mean to be Amritdhari, Sehjdhari?

I know what amritdhari is, but does sehjdhari implies someone who keeps hair, does path etc but havent taken amrit? or does sehajdhari means someone who has cut their hair but still believe in sikh way of life.

Those who have cutt their hair r not sehajdharis but PATITS SEHAJDHHARI term has been misinterpreted by rss and communist people sehajdhari as per SGPC ACT 1925 is that person with uncutt hair but without AMRIT.

What are you talking about? Sehajdhari applies to those who don't keep their 5 k's. There is also a term called "keshdhari" in SGPC Act 1925 as well. They're sikhs who wear turbans, but never took amrit. Patit is describe in SGPC act 1925 as keshdhari who trim/cut their hair and amritdhari who commit one of 4-5 sins.

THE SIKH GURDWARAS ACT, 1925:

Sikh “Sikh” means a person who professes the Sikh religion or, in the case of a deceased person, who professed the Sikh religion or was known to be a Sikh during his life time. If any question arises as to whether any living person is or is not a Sikh, he shall be deemed respectively to be or not to be a Sikh according as he makes or refuses to make in such manner as the [Provincial Government], may prescribe the following declaration:-

I solemnly affirm that I am a Sikh, that I believe in the Guru Granth Sahib, that I believe in the Ten Gurus and that I have no other religion

“Amritdhari Sikh” means and includes every person who has taken khande-ka-amrit or khanda pahul prepared and administered according to the tenets of Sikh religion and rites, at the hands of five pyaras or `beloved ones’.”

“Patit” means a person who being a keshadhari Sikh trims or shaves his beard or keshas or who after taking amrit commits any one or more of the kurahits].”

[49. Qualifications of electors.— Every person shall be entitled to have his name registered on the electoral roll of a constituency constituted for the election of a member or members of the Board who is a resident in that constituency and either—

(i) is on the electoral roll for the time being in force of persons entitled to vote for the election of a member to represent a Sikh urban or rural constituency of the [Provincial Assembly], or

(ii) is a Sikh more than twenty-one years of age, who has had his name registered as a voter in such manner as may be prescribed:

Provided that no person shall be registered as an elector who—

(a) trims or shaves his beard or keshas except in case of sehjdhari;

(b) smokes;

© takes alcoholic drinks.]

Notice how sehajdhari are excluded when comes to hair?

http://punjablaws.gov.pk/laws/33.html#_ftnref49

u r just showing unamended act as per new amended act added by in 2001 SEHAJDHARI has been redifined which was challenaged in PUNJAB AND HARYANA HIGH COURT BUT DB LED BY SINGHVI PASSED ORDER IN FAVOUR OF AMENDMENT AND SO BADLY SNUBED THE PETITIONERS AND ASKED THEM IF THEY CONSISDER THEMSELVES HIGHER THAN GURU JI REHAT CANNOT BE ALTERED . SEHAJDHARI FEDERATION CHIEF WITH RSS LINKS WENT TO SUPREME COURT DESPITE THE FACT THAT CASE WAS ADMITTED IN HIGH COURT AND WAS PENDING AND SEHAJDHARI CHIEF WAS ASKED TO GET OUT OF SUPREME COURT AND THEIR ADVOCATE ALSO GOT GOOD DRESSING DOWN BY JUDGES WHICH IS ON RECORD AND THESE RSS AGENTS KEEP ON BOASTING BUT AND 2004 ELECTIONS WERE HELD ACCORDING TO NEW AMENDMENT WHICH DEFINES SEHAJDHARI AS THOSE SIKHS WITH UNCUTT HAIR BUT WITHOUT AMRIT. DO NOT MISLEAD OTHERS BY UNAMENDED ACT NEW ACT WITH AMENDMENT IS AVAILALE IN A BOOK WRITTEN BY ADVOCATE NAVKIRAN SINGH PLEASE GO THROUGH NEW ACT. even old SEHAJDHARI DEFINITION was through act in 90s which created a lot of heat

veerji I have a humble request Kirpan manufacterers should also manufacture KASHMIRI KIRPANS OLDER VERSION THE DOUBLE EDGED ONES anyhow this KIRPAN is also nice .Biggest quality of kKASHMIRI KIRPANS is that it is also most powerful SASTAR may be I find it that way nowadays older version of KASHMIRI KIRPANS R very rare . I hope my request will be consisdered as some SIKLIGHARS from HAZUR SHAIB R making this KIRPAN but in very small numbers.

u R MESSING NOT ME NICE U MOVE LIKE LIGHTNIN BUT UR MOVES SHALL BE OF NOUSE AGAINIST A PERSON WHO TWISTS BIG IRON ROD WITH HIS MIGHTY CHEST OR WHO CAN FIRE AT THE HEARING OF SOUND BE CAREFUL

what if that sound is coming from another gun targeting at you, would u shoot wind or shoot from your gun then? :wub:

These r reflexes one learns from specific training u can estimate the enemy correctly even blinfolding u can assemble the weapon in seconds in case of fired upon reaction shall be in splilt seconds try to do it practically then making comments on others it will help u in defending urself.

PEOPLLE LIKE SUKHDEV SINGH DHINSA WHO DISTRIBUTED WINE AND SWEETS ON HEARING ABOUT THE MARTYDOM OF BABA MANOCHAL AND CALLED HIM CONGRESS AGENT.

Veerjee.. with what source u can say that?

veerji he openly said in a interview with all indian press like tribune ,indian express and send congratulations to Ajit singh sandhu and said he has nothing to fear and boasted about it in elction campaigning and his son openly used disgraceful language aginist sikh fighters all traditional akalis r cancer on panth which needs to be removed.

I know karete not perfect but can defend myself also a good shooter more than good shot one should know tactics of weapon combat postures while firing and tactics of suprise attacks if u know these even with KIRPANS u can strike fear in enemies minds. Most impotant are tactics if u know GATKA u can over power wellarmed adversery but u should adopt proper tactics and planning.

U seem to know only dancing and dancing like ur user id :wub:

Dont mess with me Bro..Me got moves like lightnin!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2S29gXTUBk

u R MESSING NOT ME NICE U MOVE LIKE LIGHTNIN BUT UR MOVES SHALL BE OF NOUSE AGAINIST A PERSON WHO TWISTS BIG IRON ROD WITH HIS MIGHTY CHEST OR WHO CAN FIRE AT THE HEARING OF SOUND BE CAREFUL

You have to give a definition of each, what does it mean to be Amritdhari, Sehjdhari?

I know what amritdhari is, but does sehjdhari implies someone who keeps hair, does path etc but havent taken amrit? or does sehajdhari means someone who has cut their hair but still believe in sikh way of life.

Those who have cutt their hair r not sehajdharis but PATITS SEHAJDHHARI term has been misinterpreted by rss and communist people sehajdhari as per SGPC ACT 1925 is that person with uncutt hair but without AMRIT.

More disgraceful is the DUSSERRA exibition in calcutta since2003 where they show HARMANDIR SHAIB and kali idol is shown placed there and oganisers openly declare that it is their final goal it is deep rooted conpriacy by fanatic hindus to disgrace the durbar shaib.

Today Jagtar Singh Hawara and 5 other singhs have been convicted but quatum of punishment shall be decided on saturday what is the legal position? under TADA convicts have no right to appeal in high court but can appeal to supreme court it is true that singhs will be in chardikala but true tribute shall be to remove THE CANCER OF SIKHS TRADITIONAL FAKE AKALIS LIKE SUKHBIR AND PRAKASH TRAITOR PRESENT DAY LAL SINGHS AND PEOPLLE LIKE SUKHDEV SINGH DHINSA WHO DISTRIBUTED WINE AND SWEETS ON HEARING ABOUT THE MARTYDOM OF BABA MANOCHAL AND CALLED HIM CONGRESS AGENT.True tribute shall be to remove anti panthic people from sikh politics not to vote for them in return for narcotics.and to boycott these traitors during their visits aboard.

I know karete not perfect but can defend myself also a good shooter more than good shot one should know tactics of weapon combat postures while firing and tactics of suprise attacks if u know these even with KIRPANS u can strike fear in enemies minds. Most impotant are tactics if u know GATKA u can over power wellarmed adversery but u should adopt proper tactics and planning.

U seem to know only dancing and dancing like ur user id :umm:

But fact remains that Autosh is continuing with his antisikh activities along with other deras like RADHASOAMI , SAKHI SARVAR, NIRANKARIS and LARGE NO OF DERAS IN THE NAME OF SOCALLED BRAHMGIANIS WHO CELEBRATE THE GURPURB OF SOCALLED SANTS BUT RARELY GURPURBS OF GURU JIS I also do not argee with some of writings of SPOKESMAN as it speads leftist ideology in hidden manner which is very dangerous to sikhs.

I don’t recommend bowing down; it may spill the poison that so many of us have in our hearts.

This post is totaly without any logic and shows ur big ego

Good for her !

Bhaji,

When Guru Ji says only bow to Guru Granth Sahib Ji, then what is meant here is only bow to ONE Guru, which is Guru Granth Sahib Ji, there is no other Guru. We must not bow down to anyother so called guru as there is only Guru Granth Sahib Ji. But that does not mean we cannot out of satkaar, piyar, respect, adhav bow to a GurSikh - as a Guru Ka Sikh.

If a Gursikh has such an avasta that AkalPurkh has done parkash in him or have pargat in him then would you not bow to this person?

We must understand the views of BHAGAT KABIR JI who said GURU IS SUPERIOR TO GOD I WILL BOW BEFORE THE GURU FIRST. Our GURU HAS SACRIFICIED EVERYTHING FOR US GURU SHOWS THE LIGHT OF GURU GRANTH SHIAB ,IT IS HUMILITY OF OUR GURU JI WHO SAID THAT WHO WORSHIPS ME WILL GO TO HELL I HAVE RESPECT AND DEVOTION FOR GURU JI AS GURVANI IS GREATEST COTRIBUTION TO US AS GURU ALSO SAID I WILL REMAIN ALWAYS WITH MY SIKH EVEN IN HELL IN PRESENCE OF OUR GURU AND GURU YRUE LOVE IT WILL BE BETTER THAN HEAVEN. GURU HAS CONSISDERED GURSIKHS SUPERIOR EVEN TO HIM THIS CONTINUES FROM GURU NANK DEV JI TO DASAM PITA GURU GOBIND SINGH JI. BHUL CHUK MAUF

Today as reported in ROZANA SPOKESMAN AUSTOSH socalled BHARMGIANIS has sent a vedio to the reporter of SPOKESMAN in which demeaning comments has used by the dera againist GURU GOBIND SINGH JI AND CALLED HIM SUBODINATE OF SIVA and called PANTHIC MEGAZINES such as SIKH PHULWARI AND KHANDEDHAR as PAKISTAN AGENTS and claims themselves as true khalsa and also said SECT IS READY FOR FIGHT WITH KHALSA. This is clear challenge to we khalsa LET US TELL HIM KHALSA IS SUPERIOR TO SIVA AND OTHER THEIR DEVIS THEN COMPARE A THE GURU JI. AS FAR AS CHALNGE IS CONCERNED WE ARE READY TO MEET TELL US THE PLACE AND TIME COME JUST FACE FEW SINGHS SEE THE RESULT THEMSELVES. He seems to overestimate himself as BADAL AND CO OR GHADAR AND CO IS WITH HIM. Let us take care of another BABA HARAM DA THE AUSTOSH <admin-profanity filter activated> THE DIRTY PIG who desrved to send back in garbage. I hope other singhs in forum will agree with me. :e: