Masti

To me this means, your 'amritvela' + my '0601am - 0159am'. You have unknowlingly answerd my question....! :umm: All Time is 'amritvela', but for those who dont have all this time, the Guru out of His Mercy set aside a time when you can 'make your beggings' at The Alighty Creator's door, to get this all the time 'amritvela'. Confused now ? :D

ABSOLUTELY IT MATTERS If the combined writings of OUR GURUS is encompassed in the Guru Granth Sahib, and the Tenth Guru categorically stated that after His Passing 'Only The Guru Granth Sahib' must be listened, read, remembered, consulted, taught, obeyed, practised and honoured (to name a few), then why are Sikhs/Singhs commiting anything to something (kirpan) that doesn't even get a mention in the Guru Granth Sahib ? :umm:

Yes, I have already said that this has justified 'amritvela'. But my question remains unanswered....! :umm:

Sounds like a 'VIRTUAL GURDWARA' to me.....and if all those millions and thousands of Sikhs visiting all those hundreds of Gurudwaras out there, built from mud, brick and stone dont get anything in their 'heads', cant see how this will change it ? :umm:

Still stands.............! Keep thinking :umm:

Cant be done, unless the Guru Himself intervenes in your Life here. And that sadly, is pre-ordained by THE GREAT ALMIGHTY CREATOR HIMSLEF, before your birth here. There is a 'get out clause' in the small print. :D

Good choice of verse, its hard to tell anyone our limitations isn't it........my question remains unanswered then ! :umm:

You have quite rightly justified your post....but you didn't answer my question ! :umm:

Whose fault is that then ? Surely not the Guru's....! :umm:

Did you know that the word KIRPAN doesn't even get a mention in the Guru Granth Sahib ? How can anyone than, do any 'kirpa' with it ?

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Okay......cant I pray any other time of the day or night then, as God goes to sleep from 0601am - 0159am ? :umm:

What gets eaten by the body, gets passed the next day (or two) in a 'thunder bowl'...! :umm: What gets eaten by the soul(sewa=actions), is recorded and you get just reward for it after death ! :D

What about all the beautiful men ? :umm:

Pardon....what is this 'amritwela' ?

My apologies too......I have amended my post, you may delete yours if so wish ! :umm:

BTW Guru Granth sahib Page 795 The word ARDAS is mentioned only 3 times in the Guru Granth Sahib and this sentence tells it all, to anyone wanting know what it really means !

Thank you for having me here bhaji....look forward to spending some time with this good community ! :umm:

Ardas as we know starts with ‘// Sri Bhagauti Ji Ki’ (Chandi //- It comes after Chandi Charitar at p-119 of first part of Dasam Granth). It was originally composed by Guru Gobind Singh Ji. I guess you already know that it recalls the sacrifices made by the our Gurus and many brave Sikhs. The Dasam Granth is not exhibited or recognised by the Sikh (including) Gurudwaras in the majority, as the Tenth Guru himself gave the SGGS his acknowledgement, as the successor Guru ! Those who advocate the use of Ardas are False, and give people who follow It, False Hope !

What's the Truth behind this AMRIT ? It is not water taken in a Gurudwara, 'blessed' by people like you and me with some prayers, who think they can administer this AMRIT to the many millions seeking salvation, is it... ? For those who dont know, believe or have been brain washed by so called 'peers' 'scholars', 'learned', blah, blah, blah into beleiving anything else, here lies the TRUTH. Do I hear, objection your honour...? :umm: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for Heaven & Hell ? Hell Where is that ? Right here where I'm sitting on Planet Earth. In hell there is birth and death for creatures of all kinds and the human beings. These (creatures + humans) can be reincarnated in the millions of forms right here, determined by their actions of good or bad (Sin).. The Court At death your soul is carted away from here in Hell, to have its 'Account' evaluated by the Justice Minister. There you are assessed for a stay in Hea ven or back to Hell again. The coming back to Hell in the many life forms is called reincarnation. Heaven If the Justice Minister, having read your 'Account' judges you a stay in Heaven, then your soul is reincarnated in human form to enjoy your stay there. Could be hundreds of years, could be thousands, could be millions ! Only when one gets there and then are awarded a stay in Heaven, is the length of Time known and given. When this Time runs out, then you have to make a trip back where again, but Hell ! For only in Heaven and Hell do you have a form made from the Material, and anything made from The Material is subject to DEATH. Many gods reside in Heaven (Shiva, Brahma, Indira, Ram, Sita & the like) and they all eventually run out of Time and Death brings them back into reincarnation right here again....!! That leaves the last Realm, THE KINGDOM OF GOD HIMSELF Nothing is born here or nothing dies here....this is EVERLASTING LIFE. Easy as that.......................!! :D

What's the Truth behind this AMRIT ? It is not water taken in a Gurudwara, 'blessed' by people like you and me with some prayers, who think they can administer this AMRIT to the many millions seeking salvation, is it... ? For those who dont know, believe or have been brain washed by so called 'peers' 'scholars', 'learned', blah, blah, blah into beleiving anything else, here lies the TRUTH. Do I hear, objection your honour...? :umm:

Why are you going looking for a Gurudwara everywhere like a 'mad lost child' trying to understand what people are preaching 2 u, when The Guru(s) have already put a 'Gurudwara' inside you ? The only reason you and those like you cannot 'see' the glory behind these words is because you let this happen: The only time these five theives are put under 'your' control is when you sincerely, lovingly and in true prayer, ask The Great Almighty Lord through The Guru(s) prayers to forgive you for millions of sins you have committed, are committing and will commit till death do you part from the World. >What prayer(s) are these ? Here's one a made earlier for you and those like you: And where does one make this prayer ? In the temple of their mind ! :umm: