uk_khalistani

That site has really gone down hill...... I think the admin should really think about it's future because it's not really not doing Sikhism any favors having non-sikhs posting their garbage and Sikhs retaliating.

Does the computer boot up? with information coming up on screen? If not The theres too possibile reasons 1) Software.......Virus (probably boot sector one). 2) Hardware.....could be your Power Supply Unit (PSU) is busted. Best to get ti checked by a specialist if you still having problems.

I get your point. Our so called leaders waste money on the most irrelevent of things. But still, we need to make sure these websites are kept running. Better we start planning how to do this than complain and feel remorseful once they close down.

This is no work of a Sikh group .... I mean bombing just cause of a film...I dont think so.... 38 Sikh men were gun down downed and murdered next to the walls of gurdwara in kashmir back in 2000 and no Sikh group avenged the killings. Bombing the cinema's over a film just looks silly no Sikh group who wants to be taken seriously would think of such of a lame reason to attack. This is the handiwork of either the ISI or RAW.....

Thats sad to hear.... We should really start a fund drive at gurdwara's to keep these important Sikh resources alive. Too many have closed down one that comes to mind is sikhcybermuseum.com which was an excellent website.

I take offense to that. I have tons of muslim friends who treat me as an equal. Heck, some of them sometimes visit this site through my blog and they're always like "oh, your people hate muslims don't they?" and then we laugh it off, but it's still stupid. Don't blame the religion for the people that follow it and warp it. :doh: 99105[/snapback] sorry you take offence but maybe if you lived in the UK you would realise why I have these views. You live in the states where theirs relatively few muslims and most of them are well integrated into the society and have open minds whereas here in the UK we have the worst kind of muslims (mostly from pakistan and bangledesh) who have very anti-sikh views and attitude. You might have heard of many incidents of violence commited by muslim youths on Sikhs. If not I suggest you search around on the web. And I am speaking about ISLAM in general not ALL muslims.......in particular wahabbi and sunni version of Islam which I believe has no place in the modern world. To these people anyone who isnt muslim is deemed equal to an animal and I take offence to that. You cant confront brain washed Islamic fundamentalists with rational thinking and arguments because they lose and restort to violence every time to get their own way. The only way you can defeat such peoples is to use equal or greater force.

Generally speaking I've found the Shia's sect of Islam are much more tolerant of non-muslims as opposed to the Sunni's. Iranians / persians have a lot in common with Sikh's than any other country apart from India or pakistan. Such as their language, their historical symbols (lion and swords).

There is no justice in islam for a non-muslim as history has shown only the bomb or the bullet can deliver justice against such zealots.

I remember wristbands and arm bands being introduced in 2003 to raise awareness of horrific events of 1984. All Sikh youths who brought one were urged to wear it for a week to show solderity to the families of victims who still to this day have not recieved peace or justice.

My main concern about such a film is portray all Asian / Sikh guys in a negative light. It will re-enforce a stereotype that ALL Asian / Sikh guys are wife beaters to the non-Asian non-Sikh audience it will be yet another reason to be racist about. I think this film will cause a lot friction....because it centers on a case were a woman murdered her husband, after years of abuse, but at the end is made out to be some kind of hero and a champion. How can that be? say if the tables are turned and a woman was the aggresser in the relationship and the man snaps one day and kills her cos of years of emotional or physical abuse do you think he should be hailed as some kind of hero and given awards? I agree domestic violence is a big issue and does need to be tackled but do these kind of films really help?

Aishwarya Rai to play abused wife in British film 14th May, 2005 Details of actress Aishwarya Rai's next British movie were revealed at the Cannes Film Festival this week. Titled Provoked, it will also feature Buddha of Suburbia actor Naveen Andrews. The project is based on the true story of Kiranjit Ahluwalia, to be played by Rai, who left India to marry her husband in London. After facing domestic abuse for years she eventually retaliated by dousing him in petrol and setting him alight. Ahluwalia was convicted of murdering her husband in 1989 and sentenced to life imprisonment. Her cause was taken up by the group Southall Black Sisters and the sentence was eventually quashed in 1992. The court accepted her plea of manslaughter on the grounds of provocation. The case not only raised awareness of domestic violence, it also made British legal history in changing the way such cases were interpreted by law. She later received an award from Cherie Blair for her courage and wrote an autobiography, Circle of Light, on which the film screenplay is based. It will be directed by Jagmohan Mundhra who has made two films; Kamla and Bawandar, both about real stories of traumatised Indian women. "Provoked has to be made correctly, only then will it be effective," Aishwarya Rai said in an interview last week. "I think Jagmohan Mundhra is the right person to tackle the subject." She said it was part of his "trilogy of tributes to Indian womanhood." The actress was in UK for Paul Berges and Gurinder Chadha's latest film Mistress Of Spices when she was approached with the idea. "I immediately consented. Within two weeks everything fell in place," she said. "It's the first time I'm playing a real-life character, so you can imagine my excitement and nervousness." Producer Sunanda Murali said: "It's amazing how so many people relate to the story. So many people know about the story. It's satisfying to be involved in a project like this that has so much value." Naveen Andrews will play the husband and Indian actress Nandita Das, a member of the jury at this year's Cannes, will play an activist working for Southall Black Sisters. Rai and Andrews were both recently in Bride and Prejudice. British actor Robbie Coltrane will play Rai's barrister while Miranda Richardson will be an inmate who helps her in prison.

“Ramgarhia Sikh Temple” Slough Allows Bollywood Filming Sunday 15th May, 2005 Fauja Singh - Panthic Weekly Staff Slough, UK (KP) – It came to light last week that the shooting for a Bollywood Hindi film took place in Gurdwara “Ramgarhia Sikh Temple.” On Friday 6th May, filming for a new film took place in the darbar sahib in presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Khalsa Press had learnt from eyewitnesses present that filming took place of a wedding scene in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib Ji parkash in the Gurdwara Sahib in Slough. Eye witnesses went on to say that Laavã (Sikh marriage ceremony) would take place half way in which the director would shout, “cut.” The committee has been firm in claiming “no beadbi (violation) took place...How can it be possible that we would allow Guru Ji’s beadbi, it is unbelievable to even think such a thing.” In an exclusive interview with Panthic Weekly a member of the Gurdwara committee said, only the first Laav (marriage vow hymn) was read completely, the four Laavã were not read. Panthic weekly questioned a committee member asking, “In films the director says ‘cut’ and the scene has to be repeated – did this happen while reading Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?” Bhai Sahib said, “This happened one or two times at most. However, on a few occasions I went downstairs to the Langar Hall, so I can’t comment on whether it happened more than one or two times.” From what we have learnt from reports given by eye witnesses who expressed their disgust at the beadbi, this happened many times. The Laava(n) would begin and the director would call “cut” half way through. It has also been revealed that most of the staff working on the film were of Madras origin. “It has been claimed by members of the public who contacted Panthic Weekly that the film director sat on a chair in Guru Ji’s hazoori (presence), is this claim true or false?” asked a Panthic Weekly reporter. Bhai Sahib responded, “This is false. How can we allow anyone to sit on a chair in Guru’s hazoori? If someone mistakenly did sit on a chair not knowing, the committee then would have told them to remove the chair from the Diwaan Hall.” It was also claimed that Amitabh Bachan was being filmed in the Gurdwara. Bhai Sahib responded, “No, this proves to show how people who were not even there have made up stories. Amitabh Bachan was not there at all.” Bhai Sahib said that they were not told the name of the film which was being made. However Bhai Sahib said, “I don’t know much about actors or Hindi films, but the young lady actress was Aishwariya Rai, and the boy being played was a local boy, I think from Kent.” When asked whether the boy acting to get married was a Sikh or not, we were told, “he was mona (clean shaven man).” It is unclear whether the Hindi film is depicting the marriage of a Sikh couple, which is very unlikely, or the marriage of a Hindu girl and boy. However, according to the Panthic Sikh Rehat Maryada, only a Sikh girl and Sikh boy are allowed to be joined in wedlock with the Anand Karaj marriage ceremony. In response to a question with regards to who was performing the Laavã ceremony Bhai Sahib commented, “A Singh from the Gurdwara Sahib’s Hazoori Jatha read the Laav...the Raagi Jatha sang one or two shabads, but they only sang the first one or two lines…. The raagi jatha sang only the first Laav in Kirtan roop to what I saw, that’s it.” When Panthic Weekly put forward the claims of some members of the public that the Gurdwara Sahib is using Guru Granth Sahib Ji as a toy and disrespecting the Shabad Guru, Sri Guru Granth Sahib, Bhai Sahib responded: “Anyone who says this is the one who is doing the disrespect of Guru Ji. How can Guru Ji be a toy? Anyone who even thinks that for instance is no better than being dead. Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the Haazar Naazar Jyot (forever present living light) of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji. How can the Gurdwara Sahib allow beadbi of Guru Ji?” Bhai Sahib added, “We had a meeting before allowing the filming crew permission to use the Gurdwara. In the meeting we discussed all angles. Giani Ji, who was the president before the recently new elected Gurdwara Committee, is a Pooran Gursikh, who strictly believes and follows the Rehat Maryada. He strongly opposed any filming being allowed in the Gurdwara. He said no way can filming be given permission. However, in the meeting it was discussed and argued that films are made in Gurdwaras like Sri Darbar Sahib ji. Whether the filming is in the Parkarma or inside, it is of little difference; there is filming happening. Also there are films that are made which show snapshots (not full) of anand kaaraj like the religious film ‘Nanak Naam Jahaaj Hai’ film. I personally watched the film two [or] three times. If it is okay in those films and filming is allowed in Sri Darbar Sahib, Amritsar, then we decided that it should be okay for our Gurdwara Sahib to also allow filming.” When questioned with regards to the marriage parties being Sikh or non-Sikh, Bhai Sahib responded, “The janeth (marriage party) consisted of local people and people from Kent I think. They were Sikhs, including Sikh ladies.” When questioned on supervising of the film crew by the Gurdwara Committee, Bhai Sahib responded, “Yes, the whole Gurdwara Committee was present and supervised and ensured everything was going okay.” On questioning with regards to any monetary gain in allowing the filming to take place Bhai Sahib responded, “I have not asked nor do I know. You will have to ask the President himself.” It is interesting how the Gurdwara is able to justify their decision of allowing filming to take place. Is performing Laavã half way not beadbi? Is the fact a false marriage taking-place in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib Ji parkash not the same as beadbi? It is interesting also how the committee has not come out themselves and defended their stance as eyewitnesses brought the issue in the limelight through the media like Panthic Weekly and Panjab Radio. Panthic weekly has received numerous reports with regard to this filming and the disgust of the general community at the actions of the committee of this Gurdwara Sahib in Slough. It seems the state of Gurdwaras and their management in UK is worse than first thought. Beadbi of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is being allowed to take place openly. Only recently there was a case on the national news that a Panjabi lady from Hillingdon, London was convicted for arranging bogus marriages and filming fake Anand Karaj’s in Guru Ji’s hazoori. Is it not time for Gurdwara “Ramgarhia Sikh Temple” to make an apology to the Panth and admit that doing Laavã like this was blatant beadbi of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji? =========================================== I think this is the same film that will show Asian and Sikhs in a very negative light. With stereotypical theme of Asian men being wife beaters/abusers. It centers on a case where an UK asian woman murders her husband after years of abuse. I believe Aishwariya Rai will be playing the character of the woman.

A good idea would be if you guys can set up a stall and sale the cd's at this years vaisakhi celebrations in Trafalgar sq London on Sunday 24 April 2005, 11.30am-5.00pm. Plus you can do a little PR with the major media outlets that will be covering the event.

I agree it's pathetic....... anyone who supports castism might aswell call themselves hindu let's face it theres nothing Sikh about being castist. What caste are those who embrace sikhism? like western black, white and hispanic Sikhs? They dont have one because thats the way it should be....... it's high time Sikhs from Indian subcontinent ethnicity did the same if we are true Sikhs. I went to a wedding 2 years ago were my cousin got married to a jatti....after dating her for almost 5 years. You would think that her family would have been relieved she got married to a fellow Sikh and not run off with someone outside the religion... but no most of her family didnt attend the wedding. Any how they are happy married and have recently had a baby son. I think inter caste marriages are the best way forward in cracking this man made barrier.

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA!! VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!! Let me get this of my chest. Who ever in the community made arrangements with the police in southall to block the traffic on broadway deserves a kick up the backside totally ruined the flow of traffic and made our journey 10 timers longer to get to gurdwara. Apart from that........HAPPY VAISAKHI ALL