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Sangat Ji. Don't you think its about time that we stop crying foul, and start defending ourselves. I mean everywhere you look you see a story about a Sikh getting assaulted, or beaten. Even in Punjab, in every fight against the DSS followers, the Sikhs got their butts whooped. Even in England, there no longer a Shere Punjab. Now the Muslims usually just beat on the Sikhs without any retaliation. Our Guru's taught us not to start any attack, but also not to back down. I am ashamed at some of the stories I see. Only place where Sikhs hold any sort of respect for being tough is probably in Vancouver, but most of those guys are drug dealers. What is going on here. We were once people had enough nerve to fight 125,000 vs. 1. We use to defend the Hindus who did not have enough courage to fight against the moguls. Now I think we need to ask for some help. I may be wrong here, but most of the tough Sikhs I see now don't wear turbans. Most of them wear earring and have tattoos. Don't think I am one of those, this is from my personal experience.