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veer ji, im not going to argue about what religion she is, but i've been listening to her for over a year now, she has never stated she is hindu or ne other religion. She has also recited teh Waheguru Mantra, does that make her Sikh?? she has also recited Allah Huu, does that make her Muslim. In any case, i was just curious if anyone here has listened or heard of her, because she is curently vising the U.S now. She is holding a Smagam in Houston on the 4,5,6 of OCT. Waheguru.

veer ji, she has no religion. you probably think she is hindu cause she speaks in Hindi. That is only a medium she uses so the majority of the people can understand hindi. She has also done some translation of Japji Sahib, Rehraas Sahib, and Choapai. What do u mean by un-sikhi stuff??? waheguru. B)

but doesn't it feel like something you've done in this life, imean the environment is the same and so are the characters, but its felt as you've repeated this in the same body.... dunno thas how it feels to me... :T:

I took some Tye Kwan Do, for about a year, didn't like it too much, too much kicking. Then i took up some Okinawan Karate, i thought it was pretty good, a well rounded system. Also if you do get into some Tye kwan do, i've noticed that most of them offer too many belts, just so they can make money every time u take a test. Because every test is extra money or it was when i did karate. But Okinawa karate had only 5 belts and did not follow the all of the color spectrum of green/yellow, yellow/ purple, Purple/orange with the striped yellow.....i think u got my point. but watch out for those who offer too many belts. Hope that helps out some Waheguru.

or she was also know as Gurpreet kaur?? www.gurumaa.com Her Katha is played on Sony TV every morning at 6am central!

it is being held at the Sikh Soceity of Sacramento or something along the lines 7676 Bradshaw blvd or rd Sacramento do u know where that is? Waheguru.

its a glitch in the matrix

im not sure exactly where its gona be at, but im sure its gona be a gurudwara. Im flying from Texas to cali, to meet up with my bro so we can go together. if u'd like to know i can ask him for you. Waheguru.

chalo jay waheguru nay Sanjoag bana-ay, so we'll meet. Waheguru.

have you been to the one in Dallas ever?? i've been there for the past 3 times. If so i might've seen you around!!!!

Is ne one going to the one in Sacramento the 26 - 28th of September???

you can't just say that god does not test us. There are tests given to those who are on the path. I agree with both, the test aspect of it and the Karma aspect of life. If you go to sangat for a while and you feel to begin the change happening in your life. A even might occur to test that if you really have changed or not. Now you can either take that as it was meant to be as a fruit of my bad deeds in teh past life. But it was also a test to see if within you the Anger arose or the worrysome aspect of what is going to happen now. If you have passed the test, you have accepted whatever happened as the doing of Karta Purkh. If not you will complain and cry about something which was obviously your own deeds that came to bite u in ur chittar. You are tested to see if you have being to grasp: Dukh Daroo, Sukh Roag Bhai-a Ja sukh taam na hoi Tu karta karna mai nahi, Jo hun kari na hoi hope that helps somewhat Waheguru.

Mkhalsa: perhaps u r right veer ji. As for calling that Kathavachik a false speaker i feel is rather pre-mature, without having a discussion with him about his message that he wanted to present to the sangat. It is very likely that he was misunderstood. I think before ya'll jump to conclusions and talk about slapping him or associating him with kala Afghan, those that were there when he spoke need to talk to him. But i wasn't there so i don't feel right accusing him of something that i did not hear.

so if i sit there reciting Waheguru and my mind is wandering away in worldly things and im looking around at the clock to see when the hour is going to end. My simran having no love or devotion behind it, how exactly is that g oing to help me?? I agree with you on that its better than nothing, but still sometimes even if ur doing simran without the mind, it is next to nothing. You do japp for your mind not the toung and not for god. The mind has to get involved at some point in naam jap. To have the full benefit of naam Jap your mind must be involved and in attention to the naam. Reciting it like a Machine is mostly useless in my opinion. I just don't understand how can something in which the mind is not involved help the mind. I can agree that the naam jap like a machine is helpfull somewhat, but it is minisecule compared to naam japp done with your mind. but i do feel what u mean by having simran playing 24/7, that does help as ur doing ur daiily duties. But i am refering to sitting down and doing simran for an hour.

So he literally said, Don't Do Naam Japna?? or did he try to direct his message towards doing Jap in a monotonic way??? If he sat there and said don't do Naam Jap, im sure the rest of the sangat would've been like Waaaaaaaaht?? and the Bhai sahib of gurudwara would've asked him to explain what he was trying to say. I think its just a misunderstanding. I doubt his intentions were to defer the sangat from Japping the naam. But then again now a days everyone got their own interpetations of what the SGGS's message is.

Perhaps someone here might know where i can download more this bhai ji's kirtan. There is no music, just singning Bani. Im hearing it right now on Sikhnet.com radio and thas the only place i've heard it. Im posting a clip that i have which is not complete. Download here Any help would be helpfull ji Waheguru

hte obvious choice is keertan, but as for the rest of the choices they all are unique in their own way, and it is the interpetation/meaning of the song that matter not what the beat behind it is or how its sung.

it is possible he was referring to in which only the tounge is speaking like a parrot with no feeling. Simply reciting the name will not help unless your mind is not along with the ride. With the mind comes the Feeling of reciting the name with love and devotion. Perhaps u misunderstood what he was saying or he didn't explain himself very well. Waheguru.

Please Define what A Sikh is?? What is Amrit?? And who/what would u consider a Kathapanthi?? sorry that makes it 3 questions :umm: Please TRY to define this thru the SGGS.

A wise man is that which learns from others mistakes, an Average man is that which learns from his own mistakes. To commit a mistake is not a crime, but to repeatedly commit the same mistake over and over again is Moorakhta. There are 2 types of people who pray, those who say that i will not commit any sins so please god forgive me. The other god i will make mistakes because i don't know any better, but when i do make a mistake bless me with budhee to not make that mistake again.

Isnt the fact that Guru Gobind Singh himself got down on his knees and took amrit himself enough for u? it is enough to make me want to take amrit, but it does not answer my question of what Amrit is. I will not blindly take amrit, because im told im suppose to just so i can say im a Sikh. I need to have somewhat of an understand of what Amrit is. Taking Amrit is not and should not be taken just so i can have the lable of being a Sikh, i feel being a Sikh is deeper.

I apologize for being a Brick Wall waheguru ji, i am just a Moorakh Manmukh trying to comprehend which seems obvious to you. It is not that i do not understand what Bhai Gurdas is saying, it is very clear and to the point, but i have been taught a different meaning of what Amrit is thru the SGGS. I present my views from my undestanding of what Amrit is. Simply saying they are wrong does not help me. I feel you are gettin aggitated by me, that i do not want and i sincerely apologize. Your views are without taking the Physical Amrit, you cannot obtain the Amrit of the Shabad, What i've been taught is that you can obtained the Amrit in the Shabad without taking the physical amrit and i am a sikh if i follow the SGGS with my heart and have love for the guru. That his Name is Amrit, no where in the SGGS do i find that i need Physical Amrit before i can acheive the Amrit of his name. Bhai Gurdas's bani is not written in the SGGS, Why not?? Do i follow other Sikh Bhagats bani as well, Do i follow the Dasam Granth and also live according to that?? If my Guru is the Sri Guru Granth Sahib, then do i surrender myself to only him, and no one else?? Do i also follow other books about Sikhi?? Waheguru this is getting me no where. Personally i don't really know why did Guru Gobind Sahib asked for 5 piyarays to take amrit, I've been told different stories..... if it was that important for a Sikh to take Amrit why wasn't it clearly written in the SGGS My GURU, why am i faced with such confusion?? That i cannot seem to comprehend. Sometimes i get tired of thinking and just want to not think nemore, It is pointless for me to think and think only and not be able to act. I am very lost about this Amrit. Im presented with 2 different views, I want to accept both of them but I have not yet fully understood either of them. Is there an ONLINE translation or if its only Gurmukhi of Bhai Gurdas's Bani. If so would u kindly give me the link. My deepest apologies for getting side-track....waheguru. Can someone PLEASE define What AMRIT is?

Did you even read and try to understand what i was trying to say??? I AM NOT AGAINST TAKING AMRIT!!!!!!!!What do u take from this line in the SGGS?? If I am drenched in the Shabad of the Lord, If all i utter is his Bani, all i see is him, Do i still need to t ake the Physical Amrit??? If god bestowed his mercy upon me and i reach that point, i become drenched in Amrit. OR is your answer that i cannot obtain this status until i have taken the Physical Amrit?? i do not have Bhai Gurdas's bani, if u have it handy please do post it or direct me towards it from where i can obtain it. I believe i have taken this thread away from the original question, for that i apologzie. Waheguru

Mr. Khalsa Soulja ji, When did i say Amrit is not necessary. Exact meaning of a Sikh is A deciple, A learner. So if im a Diciple of the Guru ji, would that not mean im a Sikh. I did not state what is required to become a Diciple, whether its wearing a Kirpan or just Devotion with love to the guru, i do not yet know, i've heard many things. But it is something that i must findout for myself. So don't assume im against taking AMRIT. Simply and ONLY Taking AMRIT does not make you a Sikh, there are far more important things that are associated with being a Sikh. so i wear the 5 k's, I am a Sikh according to what is onthe outside, but no one but me and god know knows what resides on the inside. The MOST important part of a Sikh is what lies on the INSIDE, not the outside. The outside is necessary to give contrast, to give others a visible view of what might lie within that GurMukh. There are 2 Amrits, one for the inside world one for the outside world. The outside Amrit is obvious, the inside Am rit is the Bani of Waheguru...the Shabad. You drink the Amrit of the outside with your mouth, you drink the amrit on the inside with your mind. Amrit is not something that is Visible, Amrit is what one utter from his mouth. Amrit is what can be seen in someones eyes. By Drinking the Ambrosial bani of the Shabad , you have drank the Amrit. Before you start to jump down my throat, im NOT against the Amrit of our 10th guru, im simply trying to give contrast between Amrit of the Shabad and Amrit you drink literally.

Sikh = learner The one in whom the desire to learn is born is a Sikh. To Sikh ( to Learn) about God thru the Guru or any other means. He become a Deciple of the Guru, if he is a deciple he is a Gurmukh because he is learning from the Guru, he is putting the guru's word ahead of his. A manmukh (not sikh) is whom the desire to learn is not yet born.