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:wub: ) Non Amritdharis aren't allowed 2 do Naam Simran? who's stopping them?! A LOT of sehajdhari sikhs i know do naam simran and play panj bani paath in the morning in the car on the way to work/uni. Gurbani is universal to all mankind. As for the point on the bhagat contributors to SGGS ji- it's straight forward; they did not take amrit and did many things like hold fasts, pray in the jungle, live their lives seperately from their family (opposed to grehst jeevan), prayed to idols, etc. But at the end of the day they attained mukhti due to factors like ridding themselves of ahunkaar or having a succha heart. The point of taking amrit is that we have a much faster pathway for our spirit to travel by comparison. We can live a day-to-day family life with Gurbani giving us the chance to meet the True Lord Peace

i've seen this occurring at akhand paaths i've been to, if the ban is in place then it is not universally being followed as yet as the french would say- c'est la vie- i'll certainly be making sure this don't go on around me in the future then <_<

Since joining a few days ago i've been trying to suss out how this forum is run day to day. The way this forum is designed and run by the web team and moderated is excellent. This the best moderated forum for all ages as well as being run in a way to promote unity in the naujawan generation. This deserves MUCH MORE praise and promotion than it's currently getting and we should all make sure that every Sikh in our generation no matter what their background uses this resource. FANTASTIC well done :TH:

Guruji's the most forgiving person on the planet, it rightfully makes us feel bad to think how many times we use Him and He's still there for us every single time in our time of need Guruji would forgive us and continue to teach us when our own worldly mother, father and entire society would shun us. Same happened to me, don't worry Guruji isn't vengeant or nothing! However, if you do have some spare time do some naam simran just to show you're genuine because over the years we'll only show our faith to Guruji with action over inaction Peace

brummy thru and thru :wub: went 2 last sikhi camp but ashamedly missed this one. baesharam genuinely couldnt be helped

:wub: thanks 4 making me feel welcome nobody else welcomed me (lapping up the sympathy vote) apologies on the site being down- i deserve a slap sometimes in the way i run the site thanks again p.s. went to the pure punjab site... Very nice ! ! !

superb points made by khalistani & balwinder singh- i have to admit i bowed once when i was little to a baba that came 2 the uk ... i really learnt a lot that day about not following the crowd! less of this and more of besides as the baba walked past he grabbed my gutti like a shaolin monk doing an eagle claw move. i think he was giving ashidvaar but i felt bad as i saw Guruji to my right so i didnt again good point on indhira- just goes to show we show no respect for Guruji when we go Gurdwara on sunday as we sit talking but as soon as someone walks in that has worldly wealth, power or status we all shut up and stare or in her case some probably stood and gave her a salute <_<

http://www.sikhlionz.com/bhagatz.htm B) any gurbani by any of the bhagats or saakhi from their lives we hear much more about the Gurus relatively and i think as a Qaum we should promote and discuss the Gurbani of the bhagats and those saakhis relevant to Sikhi such as Bhagat Dhanna's worship of the touchstone was done with so much of a truthful heart that God took form to help him. These are beautiful saakhis and beautiful Gurbani that always goes to the heart :TH:

agree, the sikhi in the youth generation is sachi so we should stand as one and sort out these Jabronies running these halls :wub: ) we know that gurdwarae have followed the demand for greater halls in the past and now there is a growing demand among sehajdhari community for halls to be nearer to gurdwarae and to be lenient on this issue. But it is up to the committees to remain firm

the question isn't whether you class nirankaris, namdharis, bhatrae as sikhs it is whether they class themselves as sikh and they do. The latter do in their temples have siroops of sggs do they not and have the kfc langar? <_<

tarunjeet could you clarify this for me- concerning the ramgharia temple in brum city centre- is meat/ shiraab allowed in the seperate hall for weddings, etc. ? genuine question - not doing nindia or anything like that as i have utmost respect for the sevadaars there

lets start with the basics in the uk- nirankaris because thats an issue we'll all agree on and are willing 2 sort out London Gyani Joginder Singh Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan Sipson Lane, Hayes, middlesex, UB3 5AG, U.K. 181-7599990 (Bhawan) 181-8970309 (LONDON) Slough Bhag Mal 8, Third Cres, Off. Gloucester Avenue, Slough, Berks, SL1 8AS, U.K. 1753-527532 ® Shri Joginder Singh Walia 6, Buckingham Avenue East, Slough, Berks, SL1 3EA, U.K. 1753-714605 ® (LONDON) Illford Shri S. P. Bhandari 33, Belmont Road, Illford, Essex, IGI 1YW, U.K. 181-4780770 ® (LONDON) Grays Shri Piara Singh 141, Cromwell Road, Grays-Essex RM17 5HQ, U.K. 1375-396224 ® (LONDON) Erithkent Shri Lahori Ram Bhandari 33, Glendale Road, Erith-Kent, England, DA8 1BP, U.K. 13224-40123 ® (LONDON) Gravesend Kent Shri Amrik Singh Tagore 5, Genesta Glade, River View Park, Gravesend (Kent), PA 12 4PR, U.K. 1474-355357 ® 1474-333070 (O) (LONDON) Bedford Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan 94, London Road, Bedford, MK42 ONT, U.K. 1234-21094 ® Shri Gulzara Ram 34, Kemston Road, Bedford, MK42 9DP, U.K. 1234-47528 ® Shri M. S. Khinda 97, Wentworth Drive, Bedford, MK41 8QE, U.K. 1234-215060 ® 1234-21682 (O) Shri Baldev S. Khinda 9 Colchesterway, Bedford, MK41 8BG, U.K. 1234-215705 ® 1234-353495 (O) Shri Sucha Singh 23, Fair Fox Road, Queens Park, Bedford, MK40 4LS, U.K. (LONDON) Hitchin - Herts Shri T. S. Dhillon 5, Molton View Hitchin Hert s England, SG4 0QR, U.K. 1462-455220 ® (LONDON) Oxford Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan 236, Marston Road Oxford, OX3 OEJ, U.K. 1865-240229 ® (LONDON) Luton Shri Narinder Jandu 29, Verulam Garoens, Luton, LU3 3SE, U.K. 1582-752378 ® (LONDON) Chearsley Shri I.S. Johore B.Sc. 13, Brookside, Off- North Court Road Abingdon, OX 14 1PD, U.K. 12345-534537 ® 1865-240229 (Bhawan) Shri Baldev Singh 64, Vandle Man's Lane, Littlemore, Oxford, U.K. 1865-452766 ® Leicester Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan 2A, Prebend Street, Off. London Road, Leicester LE2 OLA, U.K. 116-2550843 116-2897423 116-2661442 Shri Gian Singh 65, Kirkland Road, Brawnas Tone, Leicester, LE3 2JQ, U.K. 116-2241341 ® 116-2338599 ® 1162-665664 (O) 1313-6627100 (O) Shri M. S. Bhamra 35, Sandringham Ave. Leicester LE4, 6GA, U.K. 116-2661442 ® Shri Kewal Singh 171, Catherine Street, Leicester, LE4 6GA, U.K. 116-2239476 ® Smt. Rashida Begum W/O Shri Haroon Bhabha Manzil, 12-Beery Bbut Way, Rutland Road, Stamford, Linces, PE9 1DS, U.K. 1780-51686 ® Shri Om Prakash Joshi 18-Endsleigh Gardens, Sydenham, Leamington SPA, Warwickshire, CV31 1RQ, U.K. 1926-332284 ® (LEICESTER) Rughby Shri B. S. Anand 1-Townsend Lane, Lang Lawford, Rughby, CV2 9DE, U.K. 1788-579656 ® 1788-823062 ® (WEST MIDLAND) Birmingham Shri Amar Singh 2, Broom Hurst, Off Augustus Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham, 15 3NL, U.K. 121-4543746 ® 121-5589188 (O) Shri T.S. Bassan 275, Manmough Drive, Sutton Coldfield, Birmingham, B73 6JU, U.K. 121-3556350 ® 121-5530277 (S) 121-5563501 (Hospital) Shri Balwinder Singh Sidhu 3, Honey wood Drive Carlton, NG3 6ND, U.K. 115-9501926 ® 115-9857915 (O) Shri Vivek Chadha 19, New College Close, B roadway Park, Waisal WS 13 TF, Midland, U.K. 1922-725436 ® 1753-580190 ® 121-5512296 (O) 181-3843367 (O) 797-0510456 Mobile 1922-646882 Fax ukilp@dial.pipex.com (WEST MIDLAND) Smethwick Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan 217/218, Cheshire Road Smethwick, West Midland, B6J 6DJ, England, U.K. 121-5586650 ® Shri H. S. Upashak 11, St. Marks Road, Smethwick, Warley West Midlands, B67 6QF, U.K. 121-4343242 (O) chadds@istellb.demon.co.uk (WEST MIDLAND) Wednesbury Shri Sham Lal Ahuja (Missionary) Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan 24, Walsall Street, Wednesburry WS10 9EL, West Midlands, England, U.K. 121-5560322 ® (WEST MIDLAND) Wolverhamption Shri Iqbal Singh 125, Park St. South, Wolverhamption, WV2 3JG, West Midlands, England, U.K. 1902-560928 ® Shri Bhagwan Dass 36, Kent Road, Wolverhamption, WV2 2BB, U.K. 1902-56092 ® (WEST MIDLAND) Stock-On-Trent Shri Amarjit S. Chera 138, Lundy Road, Longton, Stock-on-trent, Staffs, ST3-3EF, U.K. 1782-323358 ® Bradford Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan 75, Napler Street, Off Leeds Road, Bradford, BD3 8LT, West Yorkshire, U.K. 1274-668397 1274-774184 Atam Ram Ji Shri Jawahar Singh 158, Rochester Street, Bradford, Yorkshire, BD3 8AU, U.K. 1274-661378 ® (BRADFORD) Leeds Shri Raghbir Singh Virdee 30, Barston Terrace, Beeston, Leeds, LS11 8TP, U.K. 113-274802 ® (BRADFORD) Huddersfield Shri Surjit Singh Kanwal 100, Victoria Road, Huddersfield, Youkshiere, HD1 3RT, U.K. 1484-312272 ® (BRADFORD) Derby Shri Harbhajan Singh Oberoi 166, Little Over Lane, Derby, DE3 6JL, U.K. 1332-773114 ® (BRADFORD) Glasgow (Scotland) Shri Tarsem Singh 108, Hatton Gardens Gardonald, Glasgow Scotland, G32 3PU, U.K. 141-8821720 ® 141-4206041 (O) you all ready? then we'll move on to bhatra temples in uk such as in mosely, radhaswami temples- come on if we all tell the truth if we truly opened our eyes we most likely drive past 5 just on the way to work :T: it's a real shame that all this biadbi goes on but it's a fact that we all have share the blame for :wub:

:e: don't mess with the don i'm on the left

i'm a newby baby stupidest Qs are those some gorae sometimes send to the site or i get asked at the bus stop in brum city centre: "does that hat take long to put on?" the best one was where i was at uni and 1 of my lecturers stopped his talk and kept repeatedly asking my friend loudly on the speakers to take his cap off- dude was wearing a patka :wub: that would've been a proper rapunzel moment we still cussing him 2 years later also when people start talking slooooooooowly as if you a freshy or say "you're not from here are you?" & then you respond in the queen's english :TH:

my first post: :wub: as such Sri Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Sri Waheguru Ji Ki Fatheh nuf respect check out http://www.sikhlionz.com/lionzsection1.htm report on the rally is on: http://www.sikhlionz.com/almuhajiroun.htm report on the bnp is on: http://www.sikhlionz.com/sikhsrejectbnp.htm May God Bless everyone on the forum