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Starsingh

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  1. thsi reminds me of england in the 60's and 70's hang in their guys , preserve ur identity and u will b fine
  2. as guru ji said never trust a muslim, look hwo bahadur shah paid guru ji back 4 all his help! sent 2 pathans to kill him
  3. If Randhawa is in charge Malhi shud buttout , he throws his weight around as he has MONEYYYYYY!
  4. Controversy works! This is a sad but true reality today amongst our people. I noticed that when I posted topics about Siksh takign themickey about being Siksh for a day durign wedding ceremonies and then cutting their hair b4 reception and how sumting needs to be done, I had a luke warm response and had to keep bumping up the topic to keep it in ur eyes! When i posted a topic about how the SGPC has clearly declared on the 16th Jan that people with cut hair are not sikhs, i had little response. BUT as soon as I post sumthing slightly praising Hindus about the period 652 -1469 ( 900 years approx) before Guru nanaks birth, and about how many brave Hindus must have fought the Muslims after India was first attacked in 652 until guru jis brith in 1469 ( 900 years) otherwise Guru Nanak would have been born a Muslim. I HAD 4 PAGES WORTH OF REPSONSES! I posted that thread sat back and watched..... Why cant we be as passioante about our own SIKHI? and how we are gonna move forward?? Why is always about the so called muslims, hindus etc???? What can we do to move forward without relying on talking abotu Hindus/muslims all the time?? DO I NEED TO BE CONTROVERSAIL TO GET YOUR ATTENTION????
  5. THE ONLY PEOPLE real Sikhs who have made any valid points are traveller and Chhokaranwala and I guess BUNDHA! The rest esp Singhstah whose post i just read fully have written streams of monkey dung! Yeh Singhstah im a RSS agent! lol is that the best u can do? How pathetic. 1. To answer sum 1 elses question, yes I believe being born into a certian religion makes you that religion until u are old enough to decide OTHERWISE! 2. To me I do beleive that Guru Nank started life as a Hindu then chose to form his own Religion/belife system 3. I ASKED FOR SOME PEOPLE with any knowledge to inform me bout the warriors who fought for India between 652 -1469, so that the whole country was not Muslim before guru Nanak was born, because I do feel if they hadnt fought liek they did, guru ji would have been born in a MUSLIM family, as everyone would have been converted! Instead I get all these people posting rubbish bout Hindu this and dat? 4, to answer sum1 else yes I do believe that the Islam invaders agenda was to convert others to ISLAM as they had done the same to MODERN DAY Iran, Iraq, Syria,Yemen, Saudi within 20 years of Mohammeds death. PS : By the time of guru Nanaks birth half of Punjab was Muslim so yeh OBVIOUSLY the agenda of the mulsims was to convert people! Have u 4gotten how they tried to force Guru teg Bahadur to convert too? THANKS TO TRAVELLER,CHHOKARANWALA for trying to provide info botu 652 ad to 1469!
  6. well then singstah u got it wrong then man, as that was not my intention! either I wrote it wrong or u read it wrong. Bhull chuk maafe. Now back to what my ORIGINAL question what happened 652-1469? It would be itneresting to know what transpired druign that period?
  7. 1. I find it very hard to believe that with such a VICIOUS, EVIL Oppressor such as the MUSLIMS any religion could survive without FIGHTING BACK, esp over the period fo 900 years! 2. For the 100th time I was ASKING ABOUT 652 - 1469 NOT what happened after Guru Nanak Dev Ji's BIRTH, DUH!!!! 3. Obviously no one knows botu that period, thats why they keep talkin bout after 1469! THIS I FIND TO BE INTERESTING TO RESEARCH ABOTU AND FIND OUT ABOUT, AS I NEVER DISCUSSED IT B4! PS: Akal Purkh di fauj, dont ever question me botu being sikh, u try being a sikh urself first boy! A sikh doesnt fear asking questions or the answers!
  8. Matheen : 1. At the time of guru Nank Dev ji's birth Sikander Lodhi was King, he was an Afghan not mughal. these peopLe had a very clear agenda to RULE , Conquer and CONVERT The Mughals only arrived in 1520. 2. Chhokranwala said : Other Muslims had been in Punjab under different Turk invaders and Afghans for the previous 400 years at least - (BEFORE Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Birth) AGREED When you look at India at the time of Guru Nanakdevji it was a collection of loads of different countries - Wrong KINGDOMS - NOT COUNTRIES! . West Punjab was mostly Muslim - the eastern side and the Punjab hills were Hindu Muslim states Delhi Sultanate under the Lodhi kings Bahmani Kingdom of the Deccan South India Bengal Gujurat and Malwa Hindu States Rajput Confedaracy under Rana Sanga Vijaynagar of South India Orrisa Assam and eastern India Gondwana It seems going by what u just said the that the Hindus were still in control of the mroe powerful states/fiefdoms in the region?
  9. actually it was the Lodhi Kings who were Afghan in control of the region on paper not mughal. the majority of the region was still Hindu, thanks to resisitance from our punjabi Hindu ancestors Ps im talkin about the pERIOD UP TO Guru Nanak birth 652 - 1469 !
  10. Oh come on yaar, lets ptu our anti Hindu thought aside for a moment at be FAIR ; the truth is : 1. Guru Nanak Dev Ji was born a Hindu in 1469, and thats me , a pretty hardcore SIKH admitting it! Because I understand that you cant change history to suit yourself! He was raised a Hindu until he started sikhi in 1500. 2. No matter what you say, had these HINDUS not defended India so well for 900 years, (between 652-1469), the whole of PUNJAB would have been Muslim by the time Guru Nanak was born, and he himself would have been born a Muslim ,and hence no SIKHI??? 3. These PUNJABI Hindus are our Ancestors, whose descendants later became sikhs. RESPECT
  11. Mods please EDIT my HEADING, as its Guru NANAK not Nanal obviously! its a typo , SORRY
  12. I had very interesting talk with a learned Sikh history working at the library in havelock gurdwara and the conversation basically went like this and ended with a question : 1. India was first attcked in 652 by the Turkhs - Muslims 2. Guru Nanak Dev Ji was born a Hindu in 1469 3. Therefore India was defended between 652 - 1469 ( 900 years) by brave HINDUS, which ensured that by the time of Guru Nanaks birth he was born a HINDU 4. Had these HINDUS not defended India so well ( between 652-1469), the whole of PUNJAB would have been Muslim by the time Guru Nanak was born, and he himslef would have been born a Muslim ,and hence no SIKHI??? 5. These Punjabi Hindus are our ANCESTORS!!! So who were they? I respect BRAVERY from any religion and race so I give these poeple RESPECT! BUT WHO WERE THEY? ANYONE KNOW BOUT THIS PERIOD 652 TO 1469?
  13. Ok I will, but what are you doign abotu it? Why dotn you talk to your local gurdwara members adn get it stopped then? PS : follow my lead in making sure anyone you know is sikh for the whole day, when they get married in gurdwara! Can u get respect for sggs campaing involved?
  14. Ths beautiful sikh identity is being raped and plundered in the West, with all types of weird stubbbled looks, or with a turban plus stubble, turban plus clean shaven look, turban plus sideburns and shaka, Putka with a long taliban style bandana look from the back going to the buttocks, a topi style turban with earring all WRONG
  15. dude when all else fails you have to use the sword or in todays politicalay correct world, a blunt kitchen knife (lol). Look in seriousness he's my cousin and I will tell him in a very serious way to do whats right, and as he respects me he shud comply, or I will have to slap some sense into him in a nice way of course! You have to take a stand
  16. Huggy bear said : get really angry about this , the bride and groom go off to shave themselves and that takes ages, so when you want to go the party after it takes forever for them to come, and you dont get any starters basically until they arrive. makes me mad --------- THATS SO FUNNY! true and funny! U actually get bored waiting for them to come and are so starving u aint bothered bout watchin them, U want the damn food! U also dont recognise the groom??lol Bottom line , we shud ask them to RESPECT Sikhi saroop at least for the whole day, IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? I have decided to very Sternly ask the the next mona wedding i go to ( he is a cousin)make sure he is SIKH Saroop the whole day, otherwise he will be made to suffer A sound THRASHING ( serious beating). Sorry but I have to do this!
  17. but the majority of the oerld sees them as sikhs and infact they see themsleves as sikhs! an official statement is needed banning it for ALL SIKHS
  18. Akaali said : Its not really anti-sikhi if you beleive your true love to be akaaaaaaal purkh vaheguru. I think its pro-sikhi because it makes us remember a gursikh's one and only true love is akaal purkh vaheguru ji. ---------- What? Maybe 4 u, but for 90 per cent of siksh it represents lustful activites and getting a boyfriend/girlfriend Another example of why Christianity and Western thougth is eating away at sikh youth like a Piranha Did you know that the highest rate of converts out of SIKHI are going to Christinaity, even more than Islam, esp in Punjab
  19. JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION : 1. It encourages Pressurises young sikhs girls and guys to have relationships outside marriage like boyfriends/girlsfriends 2. Promotes lustful activites 3. Promotes youngsters focusing on having relationships with eachother, which are love one day and hate another, and dont really mean anything! 4. Teaches youngsters the wrong meaning of LOVE which should be from the heart, pure and for your ONE true soul mate, not a regualr exchange of boyfreinds and girlfriends 5. Many Sikhs concerntrate on Christian festivals like Valentines - getting a boyfriend and girlfriend and Christmas - gettin Drunk , ( BAD EXAMPLES OF Religion) - than on Sikh festivals! 6. Many Sikh girls guys will LIE to their parents to meet their partners and perform wrongful acts in parks, cars and Hotels in the name of Valentines day!
  20. Sunnybond singh its obviosu ur a Sikh,but u just dentying it to make urargument! when i said 20 million sikhs , i meant if Amtiabh had hated sikhs surely many of them would have caught on and PROVIDED real proof of him hating them! THIS IS JUST PROPOGADA AND RUMOURS STARTED BY TROUBLEMAKERS AGAINST AMITABH 4 NO REASON! Amintabhs mum was Sikh and he respect Sikhism adn I have seen him proudly say that on many interviews The SGPC adn people who run the Harmndir porudly let him be a guest of honour when he came with his family to pray, if he was an enemy of the panth they would not have let him in! Anyway here is another reason to LOVE Amitabh Bachan and a mesasge form him to us all ;
  21. Why is it stupid? after the sacrifices our gurus made to keep our kesh , if they cant appreciate that, and show gratitude for the gurus, then wot will they do for fellow sikhs? Wots the point in trusting them and keeping them as friends? I would prefer a proper HINDU or CHRISTIAN friedn who is true to his faith than a FAKE Sikh friend who cant even be faithfull to his GURU. Bhull Chuk Maafe!
  22. I think u shud break ur friendship with him, if he is NOT true or faithful to his RELIGION , he will backstab you too!
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