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Ardas shud be done from heart whther ur standing or sitting or sleeping. ulitmately mind concentration is imprtant when doing ardas. It shouldnot be like you doing ardas verbally but ur mind is in Facebook

Kirat Karam Ke Vicchre Kar Kripa Melo Raam, Chaar Kunt Dehdis Prmehe Thak Aye Prabh ki Saam

I wonder who is going to stay on this earth for forever. what was yours may become somebody's elses and what was his might become yours. Thats the HUKAM of AKAL PURAKH

Some Sant Mahapursh are known to everone bcz thats the Hukam of Akal to them to Preach Truth and bring Sinful like me close to SGGSJI, And some sants remain unknown to everyone(Gupt) bcz that is also the Hukam of Akal to them to reamin gupt and Do Naam Bandgi and complete their Life Cycle even though they donot come under endless re-incarnations. They come in Hukam and Go in Hukam.

Real Nishani of Sant is Your Mann and Mind becomes Adol when you are in their Sanagat and True Sant always lead the follower to SGGSJI and Shabad Guru.

Aksantali ji, Tusi Mere Muh Di Gal Keh diti.

Tu Beant Ko Virla Jane, Gurprasad Kao Shabad Pehshane

Brahma originated from the Naab kamal of Vishnu Lord. When vishnu was created by Akal. Vishnu thought of further Creation which led to Creation of Brahma from Vishnu's NAAB KAMAL. From the lotus, Brahma originated. Brahma saw himself everywhere because of his huge size and became ahnkari of himself. Then Akashbani was made by Akal(or maybe Vishnu-Disputed) that there is someoen higher than Him and He has orinated from the Root of Lotus. Brahma Laughed at the Akashbaani and made a mockery that How Could Me of such a huge size born out of this Small root of Kamal. ultimately Akal put him back in the Lotus root where Brahma begged for mercy for thousand of yugas.(ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਮਲੁ ਪਇਆਲਿ ਨ ਪਾਇਆ ॥). He was deluded by Doubt and Maya.

They wroshipped akal purakh only whose attributes are given in Mool Mantar. None of them wroshipped Vishnu who is

one of the trinity of Hindu faith.

Guru gobind singh ji wrote bani on these avtars to tell us that though they were considered avtars but they failed in their

mission and acted just like mortals.

ਆਦਿ ਅਜੋਨਿ ਕਹਾਇ ਕਹੋ ਕਿਮ ਦੇਵਕਿ ਕੇ ਜਠਰੰਤਰ ਆਯੋ ॥ਤਾਤ ਨ ਮਾਤ ਕਹੈ ਜਿਹ ਕੋ ਤਿਹ ਕਯੋਂ ਬਸੁਦੇਵਹਿ ਬਾਪੁ ਕਹਾਯੋ ॥੧੪॥

* If he (Krishna) is said to be unborn and without a beginning, then how did he come into the womb of Devaki? He, who is considered without any father or mother, then why did he cause Vasudev to be called his father? 14.

* ਕਾਹੇ ਕੋ ਏਸ਼ ਮਹੇਸ਼ਹਿ ਭਾਖਤ ਕਾਹਿ ਦਿਜੇਸ਼ ਕੋ ਏਸ ਬਖਾਨਯੋ ॥ਹੈ ਨ ਰਘ੍ਵੇਸ਼ ਜਦ੍ਵੇਸ਼ ਰਮਾਪਤਿ ਤੈ ਜਿਨ ਕੌ ਬਿਸ੍ਵਨਾਥ ਪਛਾਨਯੋ ॥

* Why do you consider Shiva or Brahma as the Lord? There is none amongst Ram, Krishna and Vishnu, who may be considered as the Lord of the Universe by you;

Dasam Granth sahib

* ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਔ ਬਿਸਨ ਜਪੇ ਤੁਹਿ ਕੋਟਿਕ ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਭਲੀ ਬਿਧਿ ਧਿਆਯੋ ॥ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਜਪਿਓ ਅਰੁ ਸੰਭੁ ਥਪਿਓ ਤਿਹ ਤੇ ਤੁਹਿ ਕੋ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਨ ਬਚਾਯੋ ॥……..ਤੋਹਿ ਬਚਾਇ ਸਕੈ ਕਹੁ ਕੈਸੇ ਕੈ ਆਪਨ ਘਾਵ ਬਚਾਇ ਨ ਐਹੈ ॥ਕੋਪ ਕਰਾਲ ਕੀ ਪਾਵਕ ਕੁੰਡ ਮੈ ਆਪ ਟੰਗਿਓ ਤਿਮ ਤੋਹਿ ਟੰਗੈਹੈ ॥

* Thou hast meditated on millions of Krishnas, Vishnus, Ramas and Rahims. Thou hast recited the name of Brahma and established Shivalingam, even then none could save thee…….They cannot save themselves from the blow of death, how can they protect thee? They are all hanging in the blazing fire of anger, therefore they will cause thy hanging similarly. (pg111)

Dasam Granth sahib

Let us not confuse others by stating what is not in our scriptures.

VEERJI TELL ME ONE THING. If Prahlad had worshipped AKAL PURAKH, then why did he recieve the Darshan of NARSINGHA Avtaar(which is the avttar of Vishnu) and protected him from his Father.

If Devottee Soordas had Worshipped Akal Purakh, then why did Shri Krishna came to him in Jungle to Serve him with MILK.

If Bhagat Hanuman had worshipped Akal Purskh, then why did he do Seva and he did recieved darshan of Shri Ram.

What do u mean by sharia mat ? So if its prema bhagti only that matter , then you can justify idol worship also , since hindus worship their idol gods with full bhagti and then can I worship Flying Sphagetti monster as well ( with prema bhagti ) ?

Saach Kaho SUn leyo Sabhe, Jin Prem Kyo Tin Hee Prabh Payeo.

ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਭਗਤਿ ਮਾਨੀ ਸੁਖੁ ਜਾਨਿਆ ਤ੍ਰਿਪਤਿ ਅਘਾਨੇ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਭਏ.

ਕਿਸਨ ਬਿਸਨ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹਿ ਧਿਆਊਂ

It doesnot mean that Guru ji said ਕਿਸਨ ਬਿਸਨ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹਿ ਧਿਆਊਂ ; SIkhs donot have to worship Krishna and Bishn(Vishnu), the above lines simpally means Guru Gobind singh ji worshipped Akal Purakh(Form less Nirankar).

Just asking one question HOW MANY OF US HAVE SEEN THAT FORMLESS NIRANKAR. that Formless Nirankar takes form of Sargun Form by coming in SATGURU, SANT, BRAHMGYANIS, MAHAPURSH forms so that Sin people like me can have its darshan in the Sargun form BCZ we donot have that AVASTHA(Which GURU GOBIND SINGH JI HAD) to reach Formless NIARANKAR; thats way SGGSji says SANTA Kao Mat Koi nindo, SANT RAM hai EKO.

If Guru Gobind singh ji wanted us to avoid worship of Krishna and Vishnu by saying ਕਿਸਨ ਬਿਸਨ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹਿ ਧਿਆਊਂ , then why did the Previoud SATGURUS wrote bani on Krishna and Vishnu.kvl nYn mDur bYn koit sYn sMg soB khq mw jsod ijsih dhI Bwqu Kwih jIau ].

If Satguru wanted us to avoid worshipping Vishnu and Brahma, they would have simpally used Akal or Nirankar Names in the Gurbani...why did they used words like Vishnu,Krishna,Ram etc.

SIKH MAT is all about Prema Bhagti(Love and Devotion) not Sharia Mat.

I'll have to ask someone with more gyan about the use of ounkarh and sihaari. But I assure you that ounkarhs and sihaaris have some meaning in Gubani.

I believe it might have to do with who is being spoken about. For example:

In Japji Sahib, It says ਜਿਨ ਕੈ ਰਾਮੁ ਵਸੈ ਮਨ ਮਾਹਿ ॥ At the time, everyone assumed Ram as Ram, no Akal Purakh, so Guru Ji used ounkarh to indicate God.

In Chaubees Avtar, it says ਕਿਸਨ ਬਿਸਨ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹਿ ਧਿਆਊਂ ॥ In Chabuees Avtar, it is talking already talking about the avtars, so there is no point in adding an ounkarh.

In Kabiyo Bach Benti Chaupi, it says ਕਾਲ ਪਾਇ ਕਰਿ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸਾ ॥ In Chaupaee Sahib, Guru Ji is talking to Akal Purakh. So when talking about Vishnu, there is an ounkarh to show that that is who Guru Ji is talking to.

Note: This is my current thinking, I haven't asked someone with more gyan yet. I'll comfirm once I've done so.

Also, when you say that Guru Gobind Singh ji might have been worshipping Vishnu, it makes me wonder: Are You A Sikh?

Naamdev, Kabir, Prahlad, Dhru all worshipped Vishnu and their names are in SGGSJI and still you are questioning whether they were sikhs

SIKH PANTH WAS ABOUT SANTMAT. I WONDER FROM WHERE AKALIMAT word originated

Dukh Darooo........Sukh Rog Bhaya

One avtaar has leave once His task is over on Matlok, Other Avtar comes and continue his mission by bringing certain Hukamnamas from Akal Purakh (Kalki Avtaar, then MAhdi Avtar) . Very Similiar like Parshuram and then Shri Ram avtaar even though both were avtaar of Vishnu but thier Missions were different.

Not really the answer ! and the aunkad , dulankad matra seems to make no sense at all either !

Or maybe Akal purakh which Guru Gobind Singh ji worshiped was none other than Shri Vishnu ji himself !

So , Is Akal purakh = waheguru = Vishnu (the supreme God ) ?

Plus Ram , Hari , Bitthal , Gopal , Gobind , NARAYAN are all names of Vishnu ! How can we be sure that hari worshiped in Guru Granth Sahib and Dasam granth is not Vishnu Bhagwan of Hinduism ?

Vishnu is not the Supreme Lord, it is the Maha Vishnu or Maha Kaal or Akal who is the Supreme Lord(Formless). All Puran Brhamgyanis, Puran Sant are the form of Maha Vishnu/Mahakal or Akal.

Is Dehi ko Tarse Dev.

Whenever Nirankar or Waheguru or any form of Vishnu takes avtar on Matlok, then Even Devtaas beg for the Darshan and Seva of that Avtaar. So Devtaas beg infront of Akal Purakh to give them Human Body so that they could serve the Satguru or Avtaar in the Matlok and do Naam Jap. They cannot do Seva and Simran in their Devta Form

Gurbani Says Jin Manas te DEVTEE Kiyee, Karat Na Lagi vaar.

Which means Devtee are better than Humans

When we say Akal Purakh had Created Brahma,Vishnu ,Mahesh.; Do you think we should do the Ninda of the Created Ones.

Baday baday mun dayvtay kaiee jug tinee tan taaiaa

Above mentioned lines from Chandi Di Vaar clearly states that TAITHO(You-Waheguru only have created Ram,Krishan[forms of Vishnu]). that means It was the Hukam of Akal or Waheguru to create Durga,Raam,Krishan to establish Dharam in Matlok.

THe Above line is also mentioning that Such Person is One in Milions who conquers 5 evils. just imagine 0.1% truth from 99.9% Lie

Only thru the grace of Satguru, we can achieve and say from HEART, 'Tere Bane SARBAT Da Bhala'(Which also includes your enemies)

I remember One Gursikh walking very carefully in SHRI Harimandir Sahib Parkarma to Ensure that His feet are not touching the Gurmukhi Akshars on the Marble Flooring(Gurmukhi Marble Incription by the Sevadaars).

Then Some one asked him why is he walking in such a Awkward Position. He replied saying,' Gurmukhi is not just a language, It is a Mukh of Satguru''This Language originated from Satguru's Mukh thru which today whole sikh panth bows to interms of Understanding the SGGSji'. I donot want give disrespect by putting by feets over those Gurmukhi Inscriptions on marble Flooring'.

Just think for a second, That Gursikh is giving so much repect to the Gurmukhi Akshars; I wonder what respect he would be giving to SGGSJi.

I think it has 51 paaths of Sukhmanis. that means you finsish one paath of Sukhmani and start with another(Continue) until you finish reading the entire Poothis(51 paaths of Sukhmani)

Chaudan Jame Satgur Hovan Satar Bhagata Dhaar, Chaurasi Jame Pehar Ke Kalyug Karon Udhaar

Sant Brahmgyani Kilewale ji didnot create the new Sect or Panth(Neeldhari). Neeldharis are follwoing the same rehat of Dasam Patshahi. It is also Nihang sngh or Bhujangi Bana;- Wearing of Chakuta, Kamarkasa,Kanga,Kachera,Kes.....so on. They are not wearing Shasters because Sanagat was told that Now the time is to hold Simrana(Rosary) and do naam Jap; Time in future would come to hold shasters and fight(Degh Tegh Jag mein Dhuoon Chale).

If son(Sant and Mahapursh) is getting the respect infront of the Father(SGGSji) means the respect of the father in the other way. Neeldhari name just originated from the sangat becuase of Wearing Neela Bana but it is not not seperate sect. Nor any of the Sants in Neeldhari proclaimed self Guru; instead they bow to Dhan Dhan SGGSji.

No one should follow the Neeldhari group because they do not teach everything about Sikhi according to Gurmat. They have changed things so they are a distincted group, which brings them more members. Follow Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj as the Taksal and Nihang Singhs do.

I think thats the duty of Akal Purakh/ SGGSji to judge not individuals like us. Sometimes One son is far better than other even though they born from one Mother.

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Dude, Loose the Naala of your kachera while taking ishanan instead of dropping your kachera till ur ankles and then doing ishnan. I hope you are not wearing very tight Kacheras that you find it difficult to apply soap.

Ishnan is supposed to be done while wearing the kachera not dropping till ur ankles and then doing ishnan.