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Dear brothers & sisters on this forum, my name is Naaz khan & I was somehow lead 2 this site & have posted some comments. I also came across a topic here that mentioned a incident where a muslim man was handing out flyers 2 fellow men on how 2 target girls into converting to Islam & on the flyer it stated Khalifa & Khan. The Khalifa meant orders from our leader & khan insinuated towards some man named khan who is promoting this. Pyaarey sanghat, U don't have 2 believe this but please hear me out. I am muslim but THANK THANK GOD I was born in Fiji cause there's too much fighting going on in India, pakistan or muslim countries. The only fights we had in Fiji was with the fijians & it was over goverment leadership not religion & NEVER EVER amongst us indian - who were punjabi, gugurati, muslim or hindu. I NEVER knew that there was a war against mulims & punjabi's until Giani Gurdeep Singh told me - I believed what he said but didn't really intercept it. He also mentioned how forceful muslim men were - where they would just go grab punjabi girls from their houses but I didn't get it. I was searching thru this forum & came across this topic & have 2 say something. Never EVER EVER did our leader - our Huzoor - Khalifatul Masih Masroor Ahmed taught us, encouraged or promoted this evil. We are followers of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed & belong 2 the sect Ahmadi = Ahmadiyya movent in Islam. Our sect teaches us 2 Love one another & NO HATRED, not 2 fight or even hurt another thru words but most of all 2 forgive cause I'm having a hard time with that right now. I know cause thats what they're telling me. They tell me it's Haraam 2 hold Anger & not 2 forgive - most of all 2 control Anger cause once we loose control - it's very hard 2 repair damages or to take back what U say. PLEASE, please know that there is like 70 sects of muslims, YEAH, 70 - so if one does bad in the name of religion - the whole name gets tarnished but I realize that OrangeZeb has done that already. There's like 4 main well-known ones, Ahmadi, Sunni, Shia & Lahori & they have different rules & fight amongst themselves - so don't worry. How they gonna fight against another religion when they can't even stand together in the name of their religion. I can't go pray @ their masjid, they shouldn't come pray @ my masjid , I won't go eat at their house, they won't touch the water from my house - what does that show you or me. And there's thousands of Khans, Ali, Shah & choudri - just because my name is Khan dosen't mean I'm Wazir Khan. There were good ones like Gani Khan & Nabi Khan & look, I'm Nazi Khan , ha ha lol. I know that if someone comes into our mosque interested about our religion, people get happy & hope that they will join Islam but there is no force - REALLY, the only thing bad that maybe I'll say I've seen in my mosque = hounding them with literature & getting them 2 come 2 mosque regularly . Thats it - that kind of force - not this ignorance of converting. I have been going 2 mosque since childhood & here in states but I have NEVER EVER heard of this kind of idiocy. Those rotten men who target girls & trap them into converting 2 muslim is not from Islam - & that saying that they'll get 4 virgins in heaven - the only place they gonna end up is in Hell & they gonna be the Devils maiden !!! These are imposters of islam & they're Hard Core fanatics & we don't agree with any of their lunatic behavior. These are mostly saudi's or Afgani's, not us - these people must be decendants of stupid Orangehead. The priests that we have leading our mosques are from Pakistan & lots of pakistani's in our sect but they are like us, always promoting peace. We have lots of black muslims in our community just to let U know & the priest that we're closest to is black muslim & so Loving but he's moved 2 some another state now so we miss him a lot. U can send one of your brothers 2 go to Huzoor's jalsa - Whoa, sound like Khalsa - sorry I'm off beat here but that just popped up & I see so many similarities in sikh & Islam that I feel it's almost alike. I know I'm gonna get lots of comments about this statement of mines but thats how I feel. I always tell Giani Gurdeep Singh of Toronto & Giani Thakur Singh this - actually I point it out 2 them & they say " we're all the same, Raam aur Rahim." But back 2 the subject, send a sikh there to Huzoor's jalsa or seminar or meeting in London & U will see what kind of men he is. Brother Humkire, have U heard of our sect - Ahmadiyya movement is Islam - tell us what U found about them or their teachings - would be greatly appreciated. Like I said, I'm from Fiji & it's such a peaceful country that I had no knowledge about the war with muslims & punjabi & I was so hurt & embarassed when my AbbaJi - Giani Gurdeep singh told me - I was shocked. The boy who I played with in school in childhood was punjabi, Tasveer - I loved his name & had a big crush him. When we came here 2 states from Fiji, we rented from a punjabi family & right away, my mom & her became good friends & still are - they worked together & even went 2 Gurudwara with her. Manjeet unty & Amma worked 2 jobs together, just 2 let U know how close we were. Also, my moms half sister is punjabi. Again, I apologise to all 4 what OrangeZeb = orangehead / pumkinhead did to your people but I am no way related 2 them or know them- I know my great grandparents were from India but we don't know others before them. We haven't even been to India but one day I hope to so I can trace my roots but mostly 2 grace Golden Temple. I hope 2 God I'm not in any way related 2 them. I don't think so because I wouldn't be talking 2 U right now. My moms brothers names are choudri & Shah so I think we're from a good lineage - hope so.

Yes Humkire bhai, I hear U - I know there's a reason why I was guided towards GuruJi but U have 2 also understand, like my brother says,I lived by the book but I was not religious. So, I have to study my religion also cause I know how to read Quran & all the prayers but I took it 4 granted & just because at my time of need Giani Thakur Singh came into my life & helped me & I fell in love with Gurbani dosen't mean I should convert. So, I leave it up 2 God - wherever he takes me , just like Giani Thakur Singh says. Changing religion really won't do nothing 2 me, it's whats in the heart. LOOK AT, Guru Nanak Dev Ji & Guru Gobind Singh Ji had muslim friends " were Gharah dost ", none of them changed their religion & got along so well = I'm just like them. I not looking 2 change or 2 show NOBODY = GOD knows who I am & thats all that matters !!! BUT Yes, if God tells me I should convert 2 some other religion, then SURE I will. I feel race, religon, sex or color dosen't matter = it's the LOVE of God we should have & spread - if we obey this there will never be no fighting & all religion would get along. I don't know, I'm not in no rush now, I finally have that knowing that I have GOD with me & I'm so Blessed - I just live on him & leave everything up 2 him - he will guide me 2 whereverI should be or need 2 do in my life. Mohammed sahib toh hamarey saath thai - Ab Guru Nanak bhi saath Aa gayey hai. Abhi hum toh dono ke Godh mei baet gayey hai aur dono hamarey sir par haath rakh diya - I feel double Blessed. Religion divides people, spirituality brings us together - I don't like fighting at all = even a little argument at home or with family or friends wreck my day. I need peace around me at all times to function right - I don't think I'm cut out for this world - REALLY !!! U know, after U asked if I had been 2 any Gurdwara's up here & talking about Suleimania, I decided 2 go 2 Gurudwara yesterday cause I did call up & found some around here when I 1st got here. I was ready 2 go couple of hrs before & then a storm hit here - it's Texas so it's such unpredictable weather. I was out shopping with my son & we had 2 rush home cause I don't like driving in this weather. Just had 2 let U know Humkire that I'm 2 steps ahead of U brother !!! And U are right, we are supposed 2 go & listen 2 katha so we can learn - after all, why is God sending all these priests & saints 4 us at our temples - to teach us but it's so true - the more we talk about GOD, the deeper we get ( endless ) & we don't even come near the dust of his feet just like a bhai said on the forum here. I'm starting 2 listen 2 katha now, it's just when I'm in Gods house, whether Gurudwara or masjid, automatically simran & jaap takes me away & I'm in my papa's 'Godh"so I don't hear much. But yes, definitely katha is very important & we should make it a point 2 listen. Anand bheya meri mai - satguru mei paaya, satgurta paya sahaj seti mun vajia vadia Raag ratan parwar paria sabad gavan Aia, sabdota gavoh Hari kera mun jini vasaiya Kahai Nanak Anand hua satguru mei paaya , Eh mun meriya su sadaa raho har nale Har naal raho tu mun mere dukh sub vicarna, Angi kar (u) Oh (u) kare tera karj sabh savarna Sabhna gala simrath swami so kio munho vicare, Kaho Nanak mun mere sada raho har nale U know, I read thru a post reg how some muslim was passing out flyers corrupting other muslim men 2 trap girls into converting to Islam - especially sikh girls cause if it wasn't 4 Guru Gobind Singh Ji standing up to their Barbarism, the whole would would be muslim = I have 2 speak up just 2 let some of the members know that that is not Islam - thats my duty. It's been bothering me ever since I read that post cause in that flyer it says the name Khalifa & the name Khan & everyone knows me as Khan here now so they gonna judge me as one of them. I am NO where near 2 them or associated with them or know them - I HAVE to make that CLEAR !!! And now especially how U say yo sister was coerced & how U dealt with the pressure of being discriminated. And there's a new post of how'" the punjabi - not sikh" girls being converted 2 muslim, not Islam cause Islam does not do all that they're doing, at least not my leaders. Sikh girls know better, they would NEVER convert after knowing how our Guru Ji's died fighting those killers.

Just Kidding Humkire Bhai, nope, I'm not really going 2 Gurudwara here cause I've been running around trying 2 find GOD { with an endless Desire, I kept on searching, sure in time our hearts would meet } & I finally got that he's with me, right inside of me - SO, my heart is content & I'm GOOD !!! & I don't need to go to any temple or masjid cause my body is my temple & I just go within 2 be with me Lord God WaheGuru!!! But I miss keertan, I might sneak away 2 hear that. U guys don't have any idea, the heat that I have 2 take from my family cause I don't go 2 masjid & always at Gurudwara. They tell me " Oh, U jump 2 go 2 Gurudwara but don't care 2 come 2 masjid." My brothers very religious & I go to friday prayer with him every week here in Texas cause I'm staying with him. I just get ticked when people nit pick - don't do this, don't sit here, over here, over there, this way, that way, = drives me mad. I've been going 2 Gurudwara's for 3 yrs straight now - I've got my fill. I'm gonna back up now & just relax cause I NEED it but El Sobrante Gurudwara I can never get enough of - waha ke hawa kuch aur hai !!! = just like Bhaiyya says. U know, I prayed 2 GuruJi 2 find me another Gurudwara close 2 me cause I was so broken hearted that I wouldn't be near El Sobrante anymore. I landed in L.A & Gurdwara was very close & just as good as El Sobrante . Head Priest Kurdeep singh singhs SO Good & I'm hooked 2 his kirtan Arti. I'm LUCKY cause I saw the khazana Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave 2 Pir Bhudhu Shah = they say if U get the chance 2 see Guru Gobind Singh Ji's hukumnama, kirpan & his dastaar, samjho tum Guru Gobind Singh ko dekh liya. So I did & I felt so lucky & even made friends with the owner & went to her house 2 see Guru Gobind Singh Ji's nishani again. She told me to come by whenever I felt like it. Then again, I met Rai Kalla's family that Guru Gobind Singh gave his ganga saagar , his 8th generation of Rai Kalla who Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave his ganga saagar/lota to. I got to touch the lota - how lucky am I ! So Humkire Bhai, I'm good, the search is over & it's my duty now to help others like U say - to share & help in whatever way I can = which is spreading Love & Truth !!! I have 2 tell U this story since I'm here with this little Suleimania we call him & he was like 4 yrs old then. My brothers kids always came over & stayed at my house whenever they visited my dad cause the kids love my son & mines is the oldest so the little ones always follow. The bigger boys didn't care for suleimaan & he started crying & I was just leaving 4 Gurudwara so I took him with me & WaheGuru simran is always playing in my car.. I told him there's lots of friends for U up there & so he was happy to come. I gave him these necklaces 2 give out 2 kids so that he could make friends. He's very friendly so off he went playing while I was meditating @ Gurudwara. He came back with an empty bag & said " fua, I made friends & gave all the necklace away." I said good & then he pulled money out of his pocket - it was like $4. I was like " Suleimaan, where'd U get this money from, & was about 2 ask if he took it from the pallakee" but before I could answer, he could see me so worried & stopped me with his hand & said, " NO fua, the momma's gave it 2 me." I grabbed him & hugged him so tight & told him he did very good. He had a good time & I took him again next day. So, suleimaan wakes up in the morning singing WaheGuru which I didn't know & his elder brother tells me in the car - cause I have WaheGuru simran playing all the time - " Hey fua, so this is where he gets it from, I was wondering what he's singing." I always sing in the car & suleimaan sings with me. There U go Humkire bhai, see I do keertan, alone so that I can belt it out & not worry about who's listening & the background music is perfect all the time. So there U go - I think I deserve a applause. LOOK, I got a little kid hooked 2 WaheGuru simran. I haven't seen them 4 a yr before coming here & Suleimaan hasn't heard the simran 4 2 yrs cause the last times they came, they never sat in my car, we always used their rental. SO, when I came here, Suleimaan heard WaheGuru simran & got so excited & said "HEY, thats my song - I missed that." & my son keeps turning if off & Suleimaan keeps yellling "turn it back on, thats my favorite song." My son keeps turning it off because he's been hearing those 2 simrans for 3 yrs straight also, cause he's always in the car with me so I hope U understand. Look how my little nephew remembers & he sings all of his muslim songs too. He's gonna be close 2 God when he grows up - thank U Lord. I'm trying to teach him to meditate - he's 7 so he dosen't sit still 4 long but he listens. Kids are the neatest things - don't U agree ?

Okay Keerpa, I 'll 2nd that - Satpunga singh is right - WaheGuru prononciation need 2 be more clearer & if U could keep trying 2 make it the best U can - then there U go - it will cause it's 4 WaheGuru & how else would it not be. Keep up the GREAT work, we're just trying to help U as U asked 4 our input & there's nothing negative about it. GOODLUCK Keerpa

Nai re bhaiyya, hum airforce whereforce mei nahi hai, kahi nahi sirf WaheGuru ke dil mein = Dil se re, Dil se. sev karnee palchasaa na vicchu raa jan Nanak, daas tumaare jeo Raam Naam aukhadee dia eku liv laaee U know Shastr, since U mentioned "j". I will tell ya this much = my ex was arrested 4 being a terrorist & his name is Jake & they confiscated him from his work in Berkeley Ca & shipped him to Eloy, Arizona after 911 cause his name is Mohammed Khan cause one of the 'so called' terrorist name was khan. They held him there for 2 weeks & I made 3 trips up there 2 get him out of jail cause the attorney told me if I didn't hurry, they were gonna ship him 2 Guatanamo Bay & torture him. It cost us $10,000 2 get him out & they didn't even have any charges against him but we still had 2 pay 4 all the costs, never got reimbursed .I got him out & he still backstabbed me so people, it's not the religion - it's the person. One rotten fruit spoils the rest of the crop unless U throw him out the basket quickly. I wish it could be that easy for humans Ay. So, everytime we board a plane, they say it's random search but they always pick hindustani or middle-eastern & Jake. WELL, here's the fun part - I got on the plane & the stewardess comes 2 me & asks " Mrs Khan, I don't want 2 sound ....., but are U armed." I just looked @ her & couldn't believe what I just heard - so, I had 2 calm myself down 4 a min cause I'm crazy, U mess with me & I will go off on U like a lion - Rrrrrrrrwwwww !!! So, I looked at her & was about 2 tell her off when she said, " I'm sorry I have to ask Mrs Khan, but it's just regular protocol & I needed 2 know if you're armed since you're on official buisness." Thank God cause I was about 2 turn into a terrorist cause I had "had" enough getting Jake out of that mess. So, I guess we can see the reason why I left him huh, lol. But just 2 make it clear, Jake is no where near 2 being a terrorist cause he never prays or goes 2 masjid. Homeland security was just going around arresting whoever they felt like it cause they had reason to because of 911 - they were targeting anyone who looked like a terrorist & I heard couple of Singh bhai Jaan's who were driving Taxi's got really badly hurt cause they're mistaking turbans with Osama Bin Laden. Nai Shastr bhai, I'm on WaheGuru's force !!

Nope Humkire - I was going to but U guys just broke my heart - being so critical of me - not giving me no LOVE.

Dear Vikram Jit, YES, U are right, sants are Kings sewadars but I don't worship them - I only WORSHIP the ONE LORD Allah WaheGuru !!! but I love all the true Holy pure priests cause they work 4 God & seem Godly 2 me. I think U know that I'm muslim & we don't worship no one but ONE God & our missionaries work just like yours - they work 4 very little money & live on God so I know better & really love them cause the love they have 4 GOD. I wish Humkire & sevadar would post my replies to them here & on there U will see who I worship. I praise them cause I asked a friend on mines who happens 2 be psychic when Santbaba Hari Singh would be coming 2 U.S & what she said really disturbed me. She said "Naaz, these priests they really work 4 God but they're not compensated enough - the committe members get paid more than the priest and look who's doing the preaching - the real hard work." :sad: She said that BabaJi is waiting 4 his visa but that some couple is handling his traveling & that they're mishandling his funds. And look at the reply I got, that BabaJi HariSingh is not visiting Canada because of visa problems. All he wants 2 do is preach & they're even abusing that - stopping him from that. This is why I praise them !!! - they DESERVE IT !!! OKay, so I see here from your post that I didn't do very bad by calling Giani Thakur Singh King - cause U say only Bani is King. See, in my view, a person can be as big as a king but there is one Higher than them & that is me LORD God WaheGuru . And in history, we had kings so this is my perspective - just so U can see where I was coming from. I didn't call Bhaiyya God & I was only praising him but you're right, I GLORIFY GOD 24/7 cause we pray 2 him all the time & do simran & sing keertan - thats Glorifying God right. WaheGuru & Allah-hu are on my lips 24/7 = thats automatic. Aray Bhai, thora der Bhaiyya ke Bharai kar diya toh kya baat. WaheGuru Ji ke bharai toh 24/7 hota hai from everybody - from the whole wide world !!! I thought I had degraded bhaiyya by calling him king, SO - actually I did praise him. Okay, thats a lot better than degrading him. MAN, U guys not gonna let me win huh - if I degraded him, I would be in trouble & LOOK, I glorified him & still got in trouble - give me a break guys - I have nothing but LOVE 4 ya !!! I'm telling you, our cultures are same but the thinking is way off . Anyways, no worries - I'm trying to sikho !

Okay Shastr, thank U - but thats not good news that he won't be coming 4 a while. Shastr, will U email me Thak bhaiyya's phone # to my email @ naazkhan2@yahoo.com so that it's not publicized. I got it from Abbaji Kurdeep singh a while ago but I've moved 2 Texas & misplaced it cause I switch so many purses. It's in one of my purses but unfortunately, not here with me in Texas. I don't want 2 look like a knucklehead asking again 4 same thing. But if not poss, no worries, I'll bother Abbaji.' Shastr, I saw the quote on your post of Raam Ramaa Ramma Gun Gao & this came 2 me - Raam Naam bol , Raam Naam . I heard it playing @ Gurudwara in LosAngeles & can't find that song - I really liked it.

Well, I was in El Sobrante or S.F, ca & then in LosAngeles but now I'm in Texas - Boy, I feel like a priest traveling so much. I'm stuck in Texas right now.

Hello Keerpa, I love the background & music but I'm not clear on what you're saying - is it WaheGuru? Very nice & relaxing beat - keep up the good work, thanks& I love your quote "that all relationships are false except WaheGuru's" . Thats whats been happening 2 me, he's just pulling me closer 2 him even though it hurts so much when the one's U love break yo heart - but good comes out of it & we find our real LOVE = WaheGuru !

How come - why not Shastr & could U please tell us where'd U get this info. I'm gonna call him anyway - I have his old # = got 2 get his new #. I guess they need him in India more.

wow! so very inspiring to know you were pulled out of the well and blessed Gursikhs being sent into your life . how very lucky you have been ! bless . hope you do the same to millions of others no matter their caste or race or colour . may Gurujee use you to spread sikhi even better than Gyani jee who inspired you. .

This reply is 2 Vikram Singh - I am sorry if I disprespected Giani Thakur Singh by putting King before his name but I thought that was Glorifying him but also thank U 4 correcting me - I appreciate it. Please excuse me cause my thinking is so open & different - this is the reason why I don't post but I hope U can understand that even though I'm indian, our ways are somewhat different. I always hear all the punjabi's say Singh is King so I thought I was doing good - I don't get it. U know, just to let U know, in our family, our name is Khan & we always say Khan is King so it gives us prestige & SO.....I thought same for Bhaiyya. The last time I saw Bhaiyya, I was just crying cause I knew I wouldn't see him 4 a long time & he kept telling me " mat roh, Roh Mat, tum sherni hai, sunah." - behave like one !!! Boy, I straightened up right away. I was advised 2 check out these sites like sikhi2the max & sf.org & gurmatveechar because of how much i Love kirtan & so I get attracted to whats being discussed. Okay, o.k. I'll admit I'm nosy - ha ha - this one's 4 U Humkire ! Please, please forgive me & also forgive me if I have said anything wrong on any other posts of mines here on sikhsangat. I don't get why I posted in the 1st place cause like I said, I don't talk much on any forums but as soon as I see my beautiful Giani Thakur Singh's name - I have to comment cause I have nothing but LOVE 4 him & thats what I see on all the posts here on sikhsangat - especially Humkire's - his comments are so Loving & inspiring. Humkire - thank U so much 4 standing up for me !!! U know, I'm gonna stick 2 talking with my priests cause regular people don't understand me - but Giani Thakur Singh & Giani Kurdeep Singh & Sant Baba Hari Singh & Sahib Singh do. Because U know why - regular people wanna be like them & want 2 talk smart but my priests don't have 2 show cause they know they ARE !!! And 4 all others reading this - I will like 2 leave U with this last comment reg some posts on fake Giani's or sants. Rest ASSURED - these Divine HOLY beings that I hang out with, they're a class above others. They don't sit & play around - they work hard 24/7 strictly spreading the truth - "Angels of truth" spreading light & wiping out darkness with LOVE & kindness !!! They associate with only the highest of the High and their mission in life is 2 make my fathers business #1 in everybodys life - the one & ONLY - Me LORD GOD WaheGuru - Bole Sonihaal, Sasriakaal !!! Ik Onkaar, Satnaam Karta purkh Nirbhau Nirvai Akaal moorat Ajuni Saibhang Gurprasad Jab Aad sach , jugaad sach, hai p sach, Nanak ho si p sach U know, I want to say Me Lord God Allah Bhagwaan WaheGuru so that I'm including every religion but then someone's gonna take it wrong AGAIN so I'll leave it as it is. Assalam-Alaikum - Nazi WaheGuru Ji ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji ki Fateh !!!

my dearest vikramjit singh veerji, what you said of course we all know and agree no doubt of course . however,from naaz's perspective ,veerjee you can see how she feels having gone through darkness and finally to have met a Sikh gyani who has sincerely taken her out of mess and is leading her on to Gurujee. i am sure as she gets more exposed to Sikhi,gurudwaras,jethas and gyanis etc etc ,she will realise for herself Gurujee carves out his blessed Sikhs into people with kingly and saintly qualities and powers and that there are many many such around .The sky of Sikhism is studded with such pearls,diamonds and jewels of the mahan panth of Sikhism. vah bhi vah . Dhan Guru ,Dhan Guru Pyareh!!!!!!!!!

Yep, thats me - thank U 4 that jawaab Azaad. Ooowww, U got served !!! - serves them Right for assuming - U should never judge a book by it's cover !!! Even talking on this forum here I notice some assume they know better than me or talk like I don't know much . There's no need 4 me tell everything - only what I want 2 talk about - stop critics .... correcting & just feel & see the LOVE !!!

thanks for a reply, people are still being fartoo cryptic though, i really would like to know more. which sant told him? and what did he say was going to happen? yeppp 2012--someks going to happen. lets wait and watch Whats sumek or someks - please explain ??? Will be greatly appreciated. Thank you

I think separation is good - sensible cause most everybody is not a couple in Gurdwara or any other temple. I'm muslim & they make us sit separately mainly because of distraction & lust - our main FOCUS & concentration Dhiaan should be on GOD - nowhere else, except 4 women with babies or little kids - PLEASE keep a tight eye on them. I saw one running out of Gurudwara into the streets & thank GOD I knew his mother & yelled 2 her or else the child would had easily been lost. God made women exceptionally beautiful & it's only human for men to look at them but it makes it so hard 4 them to concentrate @ Gurudwara or masjid - BIG distraction with their beauty & beautiful clothes SO I'm sure U can imagine what us beauties do to the men - Annnnnd, they're the ones leading the katha's, kirtans & prayers. I mean = I'm a woman & I go to Gurudwara & easily get carried away looking @ all the beautiful Salwaar that ladies wear - it dosen't just have to be lust, the colors are so beautiful that they're mesmerizing. I think this is a very good ritual , especially at temple. Everywhere else, I don't care but I think it makes sense @ temple or masjid so we can concentrate only on GOD !!! What do U think ??? Because I've been to masjid, mandir, Gurdwara & church & the females are checking out males so don't U think males will be looking. I went 2 mandir with my aunt & she's over there eyeing married men & bothering me cause she thinks he's looking @ her & not paying attention at all 2 pooja. I've seen this all over & I think it's an excellent idea. But I must say, I took my son 2 Gurudara with me & he didn't know anything about SIkh religion & didn't want 2 sit alone so I went & sat with him on mens side so I could explain the nightly prayer 2 him - otherwise he would be just sitting there not understanding much about the religion. SO, I say if you're a couple, it should be okay 2 sit together but please follow rules of the temple & don't Naraaz anyone. I know about Gurudwara so I just went ahead & sat with my son but at a new temple, I would ask if it's okay 1st. At El Sobrante, I see some people sit together & no problem - I LOVE our Gurudwara - very easy going & so PEACEFUL - can sit there for hours.

Metaab Singh, U are Right - muslims don't believe in Re-incarnation. I'm a muslim & I know that but I believe in Re-incarnation cause thats the only way life makes sense 2 me. Why would a true loving person who always does good keeps getting dogged ??? I came to the conclusion that it was something from their past life they did . Muslim religion is very religious - not as spiritual as yours - thats what I like about yours. I'm not religious but more spiritual. Our religion also dosen't teach simran & kirtan which is essential & I LOVE kirtan & simran & which these 2 I do the most.