Stoppropogan

Please, Please, Please stop all this nonsense propoganda!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe you are just whipping up people's emotions for propoganda against some individuals, just trying to get some support for a rival conference. So much propoganda has happened over the last few months to divide Sikhs in the UK and I am sick of it. I actually heard the whole conference yesterday. A lot of false statements have been made about this conference, lets get some facts established: - Kulvant Dhesi was not even there. - Yesterdays conference was a complete mix of people. I have listened to conferences since the 1980s, this was definately a large gathering of many different organisations in the Panth. It was definately the largest in recent years. It included Dal Khalsa, some factions of International Sikh Youth Federation such as Bal group, Babbars, supporters of Khalistan Liberation Force (Baba Manochal group), British Sikh Council, Khalra Mission Council, British Sikh Consultative Forum, Akali Dal (Simranjit Singh Maan) all Ramgarhia Gurdwaras & associations in UK, Sikh missionaries, Ravidas Gurdwaras, Deputy Chairman of Punjab & Sind Bank, Singh Sabha Southall committee member, old leaders of SGPC Dharam Parchaar Committee, other old SGPC leaders, Punjab Radio, plus alot of Gurdwara Pardans from UK, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Norway, France, etc. It also had messages of support from Baba Ram Singh - Jathedar Damdami Taksal, Network of Sikh Organisations, the other BSCF group and many other groups. This is what I picked up, but alot more people spoke yesterday. - The nonsense being written by people on this thread is just a cynical stunt to whip up emotions of youth so that as many people as possible attend the rival conference. It is just dirty politics!!!!! Some more facts: 1. There was no ninda of Sant Dhandrian. It was just one pardan from some Board of Gurdwaras, who spoke against him. He gave his personal opinion on sant samaj decision on nanakshahi calender, and he mentioned his name in there. If people did not like that, they can speak to him. 2. The main person who spoke strongly against Dasam Granth was Thekedhar from Southall. If you have a problem with his opinions speak to him, rather than label the whole conference as supporting his view. All this politics has began with barsi programme at Willenhall programme on Sikh channel. Regardless of whether you support Dasam Granth or not, people are very unhappy about anything equal to Guru Granth Sahib. What came out clearly yesterday was that from ramgarhias, to hard core khalistanis, peoples sharda is hurt. They see it as huge disrespect of the Guru Granth Sahib. Many puratan rehitnamas were read out yesterday by old SGPC guys showing why only Guru Granth Sahib can be parkash. I would like to get hold of them to find out more for my own research. People can come here and write as much propoganda as they like, but parkash of just Guru Granth Sahib is in Akal Tahkht Maryada. The DT faction behind the Barsi programme have sidelined themselves, even other Federation people confirmed this practice is wrong, and not done at Chowk Mehta. Alot was mentioned of RSS attempts to confuse sikhs. For example, last year RSS presented a copy of a saroop printed by them to Anandpur Sahib, which was Guru Granth Sahib and Dasam Granth in one binding. One AKJ singh at the end spoke very well against anyone who condemned dasam granth. He explained why it is important to Sikhi. But everyone in the conference said clearly that nothing can be parksah equal to Guru Granth Sahib. There is nothing greater on this earth than Guru Granth Sahib. The Nanakshahi calender issue was supported by all. People completely condemned the actions of Badal, Dhumma and Makkar. The resolution was supported by all those at the conference, and Delhi Gurdwara Parbandak Committee, Haryana Gurdwara Parbandak Commitee, Pakistan Gurdwara Parbandak Commitee, American Gurdwara Parbandak Committee and some International Sikh youth federation groups in Canada. Talk has started of a united front against Badal & Makkar. For the last few months people have become sick of dirty propoganda on forums and on TV. In the UK, Ragi Darshan Singh was mainly supported by Punjab Radio and missionaries. No one else really bothered about him. But the programme on Sikh channel, when Daljit Singh Nirmala guy spoke so much rubbish, he just created a lot of support for Prof Darshan Singh. I do not like Darshan Singh. But when Panthic weekly speak against him, they back it up with evidence. But Daljit singh said he has off-licences, Prof Darshan Singh's family with loads of sangat are now asking him to prove where these offies are? So people at the conference brought up this nirmala guy and his stupid comments and made it into an issue. At the same time, during the Barsi programme, they had 5 singhs doing ardas that Sant Jarnail Singh is still alive. So people speaking against that barsi programe , who spoke at the conference, brought that up. This was done by people from every organisation. The bottom line is there is a lot of politics going on. It is really damaging UK sangat. The old guys will be back together in a few months. The youth are being whipped up and they will fight against each other. Those people behind whipping up youth on these forums, also daljit singh nirmala, certain speakers in yesterdays conference, and people who are doing propoganda for the rival conference today, all need to be ashamed of themselves. WE NEED UNITY, NOT DIVISIONS!!!!! WE NEED YOUTH TOGETHER, NOT FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER!!! STOP SPREADING 3rd PARTY LIES!!!!!

Please, Please, Please stop all this nonsense propoganda!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe you are just whipping up people's emotions for propoganda against some individuals, just trying to get some support for a rival conference. So much propoganda has happened over the last few months to divide Sikhs in the UK and I am sick of it. I actually heard the whole conference yesterday. A lot of false statements have been made about this conference, lets get some facts established: - Kulvant Dhesi was not even there. - Yesterdays conference was a complete mix of people. I have listened to conferences since the 1980s, this was definately a large gathering of many different organisations in the Panth. It was definately the largest in recent years. It included Dal Khalsa, some factions of International Sikh Youth Federation such as Bal group, Babbars, supporters of Khalistan Liberation Force (Baba Manochal group), British Sikh Council, Khalra Mission Council, British Sikh Consultative Forum, Akali Dal (Simranjit Singh Maan) all Ramgarhia Gurdwaras & associations in UK, Sikh missionaries, Ravidas Gurdwaras, Deputy Chairman of Punjab & Sind Bank, Singh Sabha Southall committee member, old leaders of SGPC Dharam Parchaar Committee, other old SGPC leaders, Punjab Radio, plus alot of Gurdwara Pardans from UK, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Norway, France, etc. It also had messages of support from Baba Ram Singh - Jathedar Damdami Taksal, Network of Sikh Organisations, the other BSCF group and many other groups. This is what I picked up, but alot more people spoke yesterday. - The nonsense being written by people on this thread is just a cynical stunt to whip up emotions of youth so that as many people as possible attend the rival conference. It is just dirty politics!!!!! Some more facts: 1. There was no ninda of Sant Dhandrian. It was just one pardan from some Board of Gurdwaras, who spoke against him. He gave his personal opinion on sant samaj decision on nanakshahi calender, and he mentioned his name in there. If people did not like that, they can speak to him. 2. The main person who spoke strongly against Dasam Granth was Thekedhar from Southall. If you have a problem with his opinions speak to him, rather than label the whole conference as supporting his view. All this politics has began with barsi programme at Willenhall programme on Sikh channel. Regardless of whether you support Dasam Granth or not, people are very unhappy about anything equal to Guru Granth Sahib. What came out clearly yesterday was that from ramgarhias, to hard core khalistanis, peoples sharda is hurt. They see it as huge disrespect of the Guru Granth Sahib. Many puratan rehitnamas were read out yesterday by old SGPC guys showing why only Guru Granth Sahib can be parkash. I would like to get hold of them to find out more for my own research. People can come here and write as much propoganda as they like, but parkash of just Guru Granth Sahib is in Akal Tahkht Maryada. The DT faction behind the Barsi programme have sidelined themselves, even other Federation people confirmed this practice is wrong, and not done at Chowk Mehta. Alot was mentioned of RSS attempts to confuse sikhs. For example, last year RSS presented a copy of a saroop printed by them to Anandpur Sahib, which was Guru Granth Sahib and Dasam Granth in one binding. One AKJ singh at the end spoke very well against anyone who condemned dasam granth. He explained why it is important to Sikhi. But everyone in the conference said clearly that nothing can be parksah equal to Guru Granth Sahib. There is nothing greater on this earth than Guru Granth Sahib. The Nanakshahi calender issue was supported by all. People completely condemned the actions of Badal, Dhumma and Makkar. The resolution was supported by all those at the conference, and Delhi Gurdwara Parbandak Committee, Haryana Gurdwara Parbandak Commitee, Pakistan Gurdwara Parbandak Commitee, American Gurdwara Parbandak Committee and some International Sikh youth federation groups in Canada. Talk has started of a united front against Badal & Makkar. For the last few months people have become sick of dirty propoganda on forums and on TV. In the UK, Ragi Darshan Singh was mainly supported by Punjab Radio and missionaries. No one else really bothered about him. But the programme on Sikh channel, when Daljit Singh Nirmala guy spoke so much rubbish, he just created a lot of support for Prof Darshan Singh. I do not like Darshan Singh. But when Panthic weekly speak against him, they back it up with evidence. But Daljit singh said he has off-licences, Prof Darshan Singh's family with loads of sangat are now asking him to prove where these offies are? So people at the conference brought up this nirmala guy and his stupid comments and made it into an issue. At the same time, during the Barsi programme, they had 5 singhs doing ardas that Sant Jarnail Singh is still alive. So people speaking against that barsi programe , who spoke at the conference, brought that up. This was done by people from every organisation. The bottom line is there is a lot of politics going on. It is really damaging UK sangat. The old guys will be back together in a few months. The youth are being whipped up and they will fight against each other. Those people behind whipping up youth on these forums, also daljit singh nirmala, certain speakers in yesterdays conference, and people who are doing propoganda for the rival conference today, all need to be ashamed of themselves. WE NEED UNITY, NOT DIVISIONS!!!!! WE NEED YOUTH TOGETHER, NOT FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER!!! STOP SPREADING 3rd PARTY LIES!!!!!