jaswinder singh

The concept of avataar , as accepted in Hinduism has no relevence in Our Faith, as evident in various places in SGGS, specially at Ank 276,278,279 etc in Sukmani sahib , the word avtaar is used to mean rebirth of the Soul - like narak surag fir fir avtaar,(ank 278 ), -sant ki ninda nanka bhur bahur avtaar (ank 279) -Nanak naam bisariye narak surag avtaar (ank 298 thiti gauri) - De De lena le le dena narak surag avtar (ank 1243)

So the concept of avtaars as incarnation of Almighty is not accepted as such in Gurmat, the puranic references wherever used by Guru Sahib ji , are used as examples to explain certain point of view only , without any more importance .

Give yourself 20 slashes with a whip for your insolence.

Just joking , who really cares, it doesnt mean youll get addicted to the perfume, if your worried about it just dont use it as often, I doubt its like chain smoking, i use products with alchohol in all the time like handwash, face wipes etc, doesn mean im into drinking the stuff, i also smother my body in cream containing fish and whale products, doesnt mean I stab em' and eat 'em.

Bro hold yourself first -TOBACCO IN ANY FORM IS TABOO FOR US , USING TOBACCO IN ANY FORM IS TO BE AVOIDED

Second ponder over the addicted guys around you, all addictions start this way only . do you know about an alcoholic saying

no body can make me addicted , ISee i have been drinking a bottle full of whiskey every day , for last 30ysrs , but i couldnot

get addicted( in punjabi - Menu 30 saal ho gaye roz poori botal pinde no , haje tak te adat payi nahi "

It is beter to save ourselves from the vices by bowing to the Wisdom of our Great guru sahibaan

fateh

FIRST - TOBACCO IN ANY FORM IS TABOO FOR US , USING TOBACCO IN ANY FORM IS TO BE AVOIDED

SECOND - ALTHOUGH I DO NOT RECOMMEND TEA , BUT TEA IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF MILD INTOXICANT

WITH NOTHING IN COMMON WITH TOBACCO, YES IF ONE VISITS THE TEA PROCESSING , IT MAY

NOT BE POSSIBLE TO TAKE TEA IN CTC FORM (MOST COMMONLY USED) . IT DOES NOT CONTAIN

TOBACCO ADDITIVES , BUT THE PROCESS OF TANNING (ADDING COLOR) INCLUDES ADDING

MANY CHEMICALS AND KHAIRWOOD SUBSTANCES , THEN LEFT TO ROT, AND THEREAFTER TAKEN OUT

ROTTEN LEAVES TO ROASTING IN SLOW HEATING( TENDING THE LEAVES TO CURL & FORM GRANNULES )

IS HARD TO SEE .

TAKING GREEN OR WHITE UNPROCESSED TEA LEAVES IS NO WAY BADF , AND ADVISABLY PREFERABLE THAN

PROCESSED TEA.

Coming to main topic, if we have consumed tobacco in any form , may be unknowingly , like in perfume , it is better to

go through peshi and do pennance , it involves two benefits - first our own concience is cleared , second many people in

sangat also come to know about how to save themselves from indirect & hidden intake of taboo prducts when we share

our experience(it ia also kind of sewa indirectly though)

Whatever i have written in this post about tea is ,in response to post of Sis Teg Kaur, from what i have witnessed in person

and thought it fit to share with Sangat, it is not any kind of recommendation

FAteh

THANX ALL CONTRIBUTORS , GR8 SEWA

Kalki avtar will be born in a brahman family. He won't create another religion but will show the truth to the rest of the world. Many people will follow him...

Singh , plz inform if you have found any reference supporting the theory of AVATARVAD in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji

Well said.

yeah that's absolute truth

On sangat tv they sometimes show two keertan videos which I think are from the same smagam (sanjha smagam), one is bhai narinderjeet singh (bebe nanaki jatha)singing avoh sant miloh mere bhai +lots of simran and the other bhai amolak singh ji (australia), singing jo deesai gursikhaRa tis niv niv laago paye jeeo

If anyone has either of these, either video or audio please be so kind as to share them with me! thank you

REALLY NICE KIRTAN

ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਰੂਪ ਚੇਰੀ ਕੀ ਨਿਆਈ ਸੋਭ ਨਹੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਭਰਤਾਰੇ ॥੧॥(SGGS jeeo - Ang 1267)

Female form, like a servant have no nobility without Husband Lord. ||1||

Edit: I am only allowing this post so the members of on the forum can help realize the flaw in their thinking.

Would I humbly request , please do not qoute a single TUK , AS IT BECOMES OUT OF CONTEXT,

in the present case , if we read the full shabad, with special emphasis on the RAHAO COUPLET

which carries the central idea of the shabad the meaning can be clear

DEar friend please do the exercise , if there is still doubt , this humble brother of yours will try to explain NEXT time

FATEH

every singh does jaaps of mool mantra daily , plz do some extra if you think routine jaap not to be added , but this time singhs are very slow

plz come on and every body , every member contribute even small number by most members will make big difference

thanx FATEH

please listen to this too by sooraj jogi a rare piece

seems singhs are going slow this time , we suggest to make a deadline , like prakash utsav of Sri Guru Nanak Sahib ji or any other such occassion

pls start adding 250 daily auto for our son Japjit Singh and 1000 auto every day from another Guru Pyare Singh Bhai Surinder Mohan Singh ji from

Jalandhar

REQUEST ALL MEMBERS TO CONTRIBUTE , WHO ARE CONTRIBUTING ALREADY PLEASE SPEED UP ,SIMRAN IS A WAY OF LIFE FOR SINGHS

THANKS

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Apparently, according to Namdhari beliefs, Baba Ajapal Singh was Guru Gobind Singh Ji in hiding and lived up to 1812. I highly doubt that Baba Ajapal Singh was Guru Gobind Singh Ji but can someone verify the existence of this baba?

bABA aJAPAL SINGH JI WAS nagarchi of guru Sahib, lived at a JHIRRI(SMALL jungle )near Nabha,after the demise of guru sahibji , now in nabha city

wher Gurdwara +is situated nowadays , here we can see Nagarras(big war drums) , dresses and weaponsof Babaji , many ppl offer ghoras (horses )

real,replicas, exotic photos,paintings , statues hereafter their prayers are answered , any one visiting nabha city can reach there by asking

GHORIAN WALA GURDWARA to anyone there , Baba balak singh ji , from whom baba Ram Singh ji took primary knolege of sikhi, was in fact student

of baba Ajapal Singh ji , the false story of the lineage and that Babaji was Guru SaHIB JI IN disguise was spread after the death of baba Ram Singh ji,

by the family of Baba ram Singh (his brother and nephew )to claim prominency within the followers of Baba Ram Singh

This is what can be explained in short , for details pl refer the history references

Fateh

i would recomment , download from sgpc site original in punjabi, pdf , Waran bhai gurdas ji

where war 41 is by the Gurdas Singh, contemporary of the 10 th master, while war 1-40

are by Bhai gurdas ji , who was contemporary of patshahi2 ,3,4,5,&6

here i sthe link http://sgpc.net/files/Vaaraan%20by%20Bhai%20Gurdaas,%20Gurmukhi.pdf

FATEH

on the classic side , hereis another from hazoori ragi bhai harcharan singh ji

I am looking for a shabd "Mohe Marn ka chaho hai " by some famous Ragi .Not Bhai Ravinder SinghJi . The one i am looking for is a bit fast

Does anyone have it ?

here you have it by Bhai sarbjit sing at gurdwara dukh niwaran sahib Ludhiana

I DO NOT KNOW SINCE WHEN THE VAIRAGYA SHATAK IS BEING CONSIDERED PART OF GURBANI , ELSE WE WOULDNT SEE IT

IN THIS FORUM

There is a Gurdwara in Dera Ismail Khan (Pakistan) called Gurdwara Kali Devi http://www.sikhiwiki...dwara_Kali_Devi

I want to know if it really is a Gurdwara or a Hindu Temple ? See the following photographs of the Gurdwara taken by me:

I can not read Gurmukhi script so can any one identify if the below is really Gurmukhi. If its Gurmukhi then it would be a Gurdwara. Otherwise it would be a Hindu Temple.

Thanks

this is a temple , seemingly built by some bengali guy- reason

the word is kali bari , which is bengali synonym for kali temple

in Bangla Bari literally means House

Added the following reoccurring Jaaps x2 for today and yesterday

2000 by Jaswinder Singh Veerji and his Singhni Ji +

270 by 270*gupt Veerji +

50 by Kaljugi

Added following japs as well

500 for Tuesday + 500 for Wednesday and 500 for Thursday by Guptt +

108 + 108 by kar4n

Total now is: 160,901

With all due respect I'm sorry if it sounds offensive that was not my aim here. I will change it

thanks for being rightly gursikh by being so considerate , in fact we in our family appriciate a lot

the sewa being undertaken by the administrators , may WAheguru

bless you all

fateh

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Added the following reoccurring Jaaps x2 for today and yesterday

2000 by Jaswinder Singh Veerji and his Singhni Ji +

270 by 270*gupt Veerji +

50 by Kaljugi

Added the following as well.

1300 by lost +

108 + 170 by kar4n +

108 by sunny_love_kirtan

Total now is 154,545

"foofer ji " this id name for for a site and forum like this one looks funny

without any more comments , just a request plz change the id name

sorry if it feels offending , but this site is not meant to be funny

again sorry if it feels offending WAHIGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHIGURU JI KI FATEH

this time sangat is doing it easy & fast , that is good , i feel the double purpose is served in this thread

jaap for a specific purpose and some singhs \ singhnis get into habit of

regular simran, the administrators ands moderators are really deserving

salutes for effort , lets keep up the spirit

fateh

waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguruwaheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguruwaheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguruwaheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguruwaheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguruwaheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguruwaheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguruwaheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguruwaheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguruwaheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru

we all pray for our Sister and her family

recently came across painting based on Bhai Joga singh Sakhi

Saari raat pehr adewe aap chowkidaar ban ke

Agg paap wichon lenda singh noo nikaal ji

this one is nice thanks

I second that! :toohappy: :bump:

Dunno what kinda movies U guys propose to watch, and what 'd be the benefit