jaswinder singh

plz also start adding 100every day auto every day,for my son (japjit sing)

not having separate id on sangat

fateh

*Will do *

What i have presumed is that Guru Sahib ji Showed to the Aurangzeb the hypocricy

of the ruling class. He wrote in zafarnama that Though Aurangzeb describes himself

as the person against idol wrship (but shikan) , still he is taking help of and helping

the idol worshippers ( the pahadi Rajey ) against Guru Sahib ( who himself is against

the idol worship)

Hence all the talk of the ruling class is always double talk , they say something and

in practice do something entirely opposite . Which is even today true and relevent ,

Do I need to elaborate? the baani of the guru is relevent always

I think we should know the difference between BUTSHIKAST AND BUT SHIKAN

WJKK WJKF

we can read baani any time , but nitnem are prescribed for morning and evening

evening baani is rehraas & night it is sohila , its better if we stick to evening

time for rehraas , but for practical difficulties , there is no bar, we can do the paath

anytime before going to bed , when we are supposed to recite Sohila .

Further it is only matter of making it a habit, if we want to stick to the right time

reciting rehraas only takes 15- 20 minutes. I remember my childhood days

when we all brothers after the playtime would perform panj ishnana and

one of us (there were turns datwise) would recite rehraas and all would listen

including our mother who used to prepare food alongside after the ardaas

our fathe would return back home from work( he used to recite on his way back)

then all would eat togather . thus the food prepared while reciting bani has made

unique effect on the family ( the rest is left to the readers imagination)

It is only a matter of habits and the upbringing we get from the parents

I see in the 1469 the same spirit of gursikhi and salute his PARENTS for

the sikhi spirit in them and their child

I ALWAYS THANK GOD WE GOT SUCH FABULOUS PARENTS , THEY BOTH IMBIBED

IN THEIR KIDS THE SIKHS VALUES SO STRONG THAT EVEN FOREIGN LAND COULD

NOT POLLUTE OUR IDEOLOGY

just browsing thru, pl add 19 to round up *added Waheguru Jeo *

plz add 1000 for bkb23 and 500from another sis from local sangat

fateh *Waheguru Ji, Dhan Guru Ke pyaare Added!*

My son - it does not take more than 30 minutes FOR ALL THE PANJ BANIS

once you remember by hearteven reciting from gutka takes nor more than

40min , its just a matter of making a habit .

When we were school going, our mother didnot give us

breakfast till we completed our nit nem , so by the time we were in our

teens we could recite by heart, After bath we would start and by the time

we were all ready with dastara and the uniform the nitnem was over.

It is not difficult , it's just a matter of making it habit

Plz give it a TRY tHE gURU WILL SHOWER HIS BLESSINGS AND YOU WILL

FIND ITS VERY EASY

WJKK WJKF

I bow to those (who are so close to The Almighty)whom He always listens

i wonder why someone did not pay attention to such a nice commentary in almost

4 years since posted . Very nicely prepared & well explained

congrats for devoting time , it really shows the level of devotion & study .

can we do something right at the forum and otherwise to encourage participant

gurslkhs and the sangat? I suggest publishing names of top 10contributors along with the

daily count(plz exclude me & bkb23) further we may deliver some gursikhi gifts to

the top contributors , our family would be pleased to perform the sewa to despatch the same

from here India

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

the post of LATE K S Deep ji leaves nothing unanswered.

As far the paath on digital media, Gurbaani in any kind of media has to be treated

with utmost respect & regard , all other maryada may be followed as we are

reciting gurbani from Guru Sahib ji

Well i do not think one can make patase at home, The patasa makers in market (who also make revdis & gachaks ) make thick chashni with little of mitha soda(bicarb) which cleans sugar of impurities and gives fluffy looks too ; and then make small droplets of chasni on white muslin cloth spread on floorthe soda in the chashni makes it fluffy during the cooling & drying , it is an expert's job not even a chef would be able to accomplish .

better buy from market .

Read carefully & absorb the meaning , any piece of Gurbani is really inspiring

plz add 500 extras for yesterday , I hope our family (of we all sons &daughters of Guru Gobind singh ji & mata sahib kaur ji)

picks speed and the goal is reached really fast

Wahe guru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

*Mod note: Waheguru Waheguru ji Waheguru Ji, added jeo!*

handplcked jathedaars and pradhans will never be able to do the needful . only

commoners with convition have done so in the past and so it will happen in

future too . Gurdwara sudhar movement was started and run by the commoners .

Guru Gobind Singh ji very well had the clear picture about this , and so he never

put faith in aristocracy (hindu rulers) and the intelligentia( the priest class ) of

his time . We should take cue from guru ji's life and do something like wise

this is not a general note , it has appeared in the paper Dt 7 may , with the heading:-

SHRIMANI CMITTEE WALLON CHAPE "PANTH PRAKASH " WICH KUFAR DA SIKHAR

APPEARED ON PAGE 7 , can be seen on website of the paper ,rozana spokesman.com

the news is attributed to charanjit singh of Amritsar

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further , what i mean is , while enjoying our own freedom of expression , why someone

should try to gag others, instead of starting healthy debate .

Does freedom of expression means my freedom only? Does every body has to agree with me

on all points? othewise it blasphemy , is this kind of thinking not talibanisation ?

any society masches forward by dropping the outdated and accepting new ideas,

(not dropping the eternally true values) through discussions, but criticising others in such

foul language is real ly disgusting

the real question is why sikh youth has been going away from heritage?

answer :-

the parents have no time to spend with them, just forget the quality time

the parents have themselves little or no knowledge (barring a few)

of the rich heritage

The elders do not know how to give covincing logical answers to the queries

and questions of the youth & teenagers regarding religion and spirituality.

The study of religion , spirituality (and philosophy ) is not encouraged (

Actually discouraged) by the parents , thinking that it is intrusion in regular school

curricula.

We have a news in Punjabi Spokesman criticizing publication of "Prachin Panth prakash"

written by Ratan singh bhangu(sometimes aroung 1860-1870) .The contention of the writer

of the news article is that it contains derogatory and anti Gurmat ideas attributed to Baba

Banda Singh ji . Ihave read the book from 1st to last page , the comments ascribed are to

an extent true, but (I) the SGPC has been publishing the book since long the preface clearly

describing that the book is completely unabridged ie no part has been deleted , the editing

of only matras and missing letters in mss have been undertaken which means that the editors

and the publishers have tried to put the book before public as it was written by the author.

the author hailing from the family of Bhai Mehtab Singh (who was part of the duo who killed

Massa Ranghar in Darbar Sahib ) was a good source of sikh history during his lifetime,

agreeing some of the incidents described by him may not be true, he may have personal bias

against some sects (as the Spokesman team too has), but we cannot dismiss every word

written by the author.

most of all , like Joginder Singh , Kala Afgana and likes , Ratan Singh bhangu too had the right

to speak, write and express what he thought correct.Is not it the double standard being shown

by the people named above ? they dismiss all the historic works of sikh history , be it Suraj

Prakash , Guru Mahima , Mahima Prakash, Guru Bilas , Panth Prakash . Even I myself do consider

some of the incidents described in these books incorrect, but cannot deny the importance of these

books as valuable source of sikh history.

Does these guys at work in The Spokesman think that they are the only learned people (past

present and Future ) born in Sikh Families?Do any work to be published about sikhism needs

only their prior approval and we do not have right to read what this gang does not like?

Sorry if some one finds my views offeding

KIDDAN BLETIYOH, KI HAAL AA PARLIAMENT THEY, TANGI GAYI(ITS HUNG)

KINNE SING HBHEJEY PARLIAMENT WICH?

BEST OF LUCK

Today we have a news in Punjabi Spokesman criticizing publication of "Prachin Panth prakash"

written by Ratan singh bhangu(sometimes aroung 1860-1870) .The contention of the writer

of the news article is that it contains derogatory and anti Gurmat ideas attributed to Baba

Banda Singh ji . Ihave read the book from 1st to last page , the comments ascribed are to

an extent true, but (I) the SGPC has been publishing the book since long the preface clearly

describing that the book is completely unabridged ie no part has been deleted , the editing

of only matras and missing letters in mss have been undertaken which means that the editors

and the publishers have tried to put the book before public as it was written by the author.

the author hailing from the family of Bhai Mehtab Singh (who was part of the duo who killed

Massa Ranghar in Darbar Sahib ) was a good source of sikh history during his lifetime,

agreeing some of the incidents described by him may not be true, he may have personal bias

against some sects (as the Spokesman team too has), but we cannot dismiss every word

written by the author.

most of all , like Joginder Singh , Kala Afgana and likes , Ratan Singh bhangu too had the right

to speak, write and express what he thought correct.Is not it the double standard being shown

by the people named above ? they dismiss all the historic works of sikh history , be it Suraj

Prakash , Guru Mahima , Mahima Prakash, Guru Bilas , Panth Prakash . Even I myself do consider

some of the incidents described in these books incorrect, but cannot deny the importance of these

books as valuable source of sikh history.

Does these guys at work in The Spokesman think that they are the only learned people (past

present and Future ) born in Sikh Families

Sorry if some one finds my views offeding

WJKK WJKF

plz add 540from bkb23, to pick the target upto gurprab of Guru nanak dev ji maharah

we have to be fast , I request all to speed up and add more contributors , request

gurmukhs around you,

wjkk wjkf

*mod edit: Waheguru, Waheguru, added jeo!*

balley England walleyo, kiddan ? botaan pa' tiyan? best of luk

baba mehar kare thodde candidate jhande gaddan

best of luck RAAJ KAREGA KHALSA

please add 500 for bkb23 , i again repeat my ydays request

We are going very slow, request all members, specially regular contributors,

please spread message among the local sangat for the holy purpose . please

publicise during haftawari kirtan and sukhmani saheb path programmes

please try to motivate all nears and dears , the goal is not very big

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

*mod note: Tudh Aap Vichoerea, Aap Millaaeyaa Waheguru Waheguru, added jeo!*

my father used to sing a beautiful poem at prabhat feri (when I was young)

refering this sakhi , i want to share IT with sangat

Guru jihdi lorh hovey guru wi ajeha hovey Jaise Dashmesh Mata Gujree de laal ji.

Amrit da soma hovey tappian nu thaar dewe santan da sahai hovey piariyan di dhal ji.

Saari raat pehra dewey aap chowkidar bankey paap agg wichho lenda singh nu nikaal ji.

waar pariwar charey bachchiyan kuhai dewey desh kaum khatar kurbaan waal waal ji

GURU JIHDI LORH HOWEY GURU WI AJEHA HOWEY

JAISEY DASHMESH MATAA GUJRI DEY LAAL JI

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

We are going very slow, request all members, specially regular contributors,

please spread message among the local sangat for the holy purpose . please

publicise during haftawari kirtan and sukhmani saheb path programmes

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

Che was not a weakling, he was a determined person committed fully to the ideology of his choice,

did not like to immerse himself into comforts of life, even when he got them, till the end of his life,

struggled for the spread of the communism . such committed persons are very rare , are real heroes

and we can learn from him what the commitment means (ON establishment of communist rule in Cuba

under the leadership of Castro, he was offered the rank of Minister in the Govt, but he chose to

venture into south american land and work for spread of communism there, he was caught by the CIA

and tortured to death .