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gursant in this occasion is justifyed to call out Sikhnet/3HO as Sikhnet pretends to live and preach and give information of mainstream Sikhi. Gursant is known for having a grude with Sikhnet group and got thrown out because of personal issues between the members. So anything he comes out with should be taken with a pinch of salt. But where he is correct is when it comes to sikhi and gurbani. When Sikhnet.3HO are indulging in activities that contradicts what Guru Ji's taught us in SGGS Ji and their janamsakhi's then we should support gursant in his right to speak out.

The master plan is quite simple.... I have talked about this for at least 6-8 years but people didnt believe or thought it was possible. Isis wasnt around back then it was al-aqeda. Its about global control, total spectrum dominance. CIA is a zionist interational bankster owned organisation and CIA is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world which is supplying arms to rebels and terrorists to over throw governments that are not in the banking rothschild cartel. The game plan is to pay saudi and arab sheikhs who in turn fund mullahs who in turn create jihadis brainwashing the muslim youth and cia supplys the weapons to these regimes then they use this jihadi's to attack places they already have prior knowledge of in classified top secret meetings. (eg 9/11, attacks on gadaffi, 7/7, brussels, immigration flood to europe.) The next phase of game plan is to flood europe with muslim refugee's who in turn will cause tensions with non-muslims especially white europeans as their numbers decline and muslims increase. This will lead to right wing nationalist parties to gain strength and lead to move violence between different communities and the plan is to make it hostile for non-white minorities to exist in europe when things get ugly. The seeds are being sown so that the fruits of violence and ethnic cleansing can begin in decades to come. That white Freemason norweigen terrorist andres brevik who murdered over 70 people a few years ago. Wasn't crazy as he is portrayed by the right wing white western media he specifically chose the date 2083 in his manifesto when Europe removes all muslims from europe because the Freemasons have calculated it will be around that decade where civil war will be in full swing when white Europeans will be killing and removing muslims and other non-white communities from Europe.

Globalisation does not work for the poor working classes in the west only the poor of developing nations and the rich elite capitalist globalists. This is why european royal families, Islamist arab sheikhs and bankster zionists via CIA funded the globalist project to entrap the world in their clutches so that only they remain top dog controlling the people and wealth of the earth. If you want to get very rich or want to end brutal oppression of your people you need to suck on their balls and be in their club. You cant do it independently these days through your own hard work and manpower that was and is their master plan because they want to be involved in everyones affairs to benefit themselves either through trade or finance or social policies.

lol what world are you living in?Khalsa cant even free their own akal takht and other institutions yet at the moment how they going to help anyone else. Sikhs need to understand their condition first and the reality of their situation once they realise who is enslaving them and how they can free themselves from foreign rule and occupation and only then can help in world affairs.

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Vote leave if you don't want millions of more muslims flooding the UK when turkey, Bosnia, kosovo and Albania decide to join. They are Muslim majority European countries. If you think its already bad with mass muslim migrations and muslim refugee's in your area you aint seen nothing yet, your kids and your family will defo suffer in the near future being non-muslims.

He is an Islamist turkey nationalist his role models are the ottoman turks of the islamic khalifa empire. Not attaturk the secular turk nationalist who founded the modern turkish state. He hated the religious muslims that had held back turkish society from progressing in the 20th century. Erdogan has blurred the lines between the secular turkish army and the islamist party government he is running. He has also caused genocide of kurds in syria and kurdish regions of turkey because kurds want to be free in their own homeland kurdistan and are more sufi inclined than the salafi sunni terrorist crap that erdogen adheres to via his close link's to waaahaabi salafi saudi government.

SGPC drew up the rehat mayada in heist during 1950s to counter the narrative from hindu orgs that sikhs are part of the hindu fold hence the indian consistution claiming sikhs and others are hindus. The problem is with such a narrow rehat maryada it has led to the split of sikhs into different sects and camps when we were all united under sikhi be it with different understandings of the rehat. The rehat issue has lead to hindu-sikh clashes and ultimtely led to operation blue star. And this is why this issue is so important because instead of making it more narrow and more limited to those who take amrit and carry 5ks. We should make it more border so that it allows vast majority of Sikhs who are sahejdhari's to feel part and parcel of Sikhi instead of a small cult of brahmin like pendu's who look down upon monay sikhs. Khalsa is a military order and not all Sikhs were required to become Khalsa's by Dashmesh pitta ji.... those who wanted to serve in the Khalsa were given a choice... the rest of the sikh population could live their life to carry on how they were before the khalsa.

Whether we like it or not Khalistan is a reality on ground level in punjab and will become a overt reality in the near future in terms of government level. Already Hindu brahmin extremists are crapping in their pants and making all kinda anti-sikh propaganda on facebook and youtube because they know Khalistan is deep within the hearts of most Sikhs so its very difficult to remove even after years of genocides and anti-sikh hate speeches it only increases the strength of Sikhs because persecution helps us to be militant and strong otherwise become liberal and sleepy. A viable Khalistan can easily work within the Indian union as a small regional religious autonomous area with a Sikh government without most of the dangers of right independence carries for both Sikhs and the Union. If however the Indian union central govt in delhi are not wise and chose to block this very reasonable step then when or if war with pakistan or china ever comes. Sikhs will definitely take full advantage by working with the enemies of India and be the rebel army that destroys the union.

There was this really daft ignorant liberal girl who made this picture of guru nanak dev ji with the status caption "before becoming hindu, muslim sikh become human first" and attributed it to guru ji. When in actual fact there is no such quote from Guru ji and the word 'sikh' would have been used in that context anyways because Guru J's followers were known as Sikhs after him and he didnt use that word himself.

Sikhs are very capable of governing Khalistan. The issue isnt will it survive the issue is will Indian agents and its brahminwad forces stop interfering in its political setup? I doubt it because they have been plotting against Sikh raj ever since Sikhs got their sovereignty by banda singh bahadhur smashing the muslim moghuls at sirhind then challenged the authority of the oppressive hindu hill raja's who formed alliances with mughuls to fight Banda and the Sikhs. During the Sikh empire the hindu prime minister and dogra general were complicit in doing secret deals with the british imperialist invaders to break up the Sikh empire. So the agents of brahminwad will always be the evil force trying to prevent azadi but Sikhs must force it through smash the brahminwad chains and get out of the slave mentality which makes some of us think we cant run anything. History has shown we have run kingdoms and empires that rivaled European nations of the time. So why not now?

You do realise that his turkish islamic party is on a islamist mandate dont you?And where am I sounding like a nutjob? because I oppose salafi islamic dogs and say it how it is?

Khalsa raj is a very very very long distant dream you can say its a fantasy. Sant Bhindranwale was trying to make Khalsa raj not Khalistan but indian morons kept and keep accusing him of trying to make Khalistan. However sant bhindranwale did say if the army did come into darbar sahib then Khalistan foundation stones will be laid. So now the fight is for Khalistan not Khalsa raj The Indian establishment didnt want to attack khalistan they wanted to attack Khalsa raj..... khalsa raj is religious concept.....khalistan is political movement. And who opposes Khalsa raj? Its the brahminwad type people who fear their control and rule will slip out of their hands if people become Khalsa's. Khalistan is a very viable concept and can be operational within a year given the right type of structure. It can be a peaceful Sikh state within the Indian Union with its own regional govt, laws, currency and military forces or there can be a bloodbath battle of independence the choice is for the Sikh kaum to make.

Makes sense Seems about right that turkish president eroden is known as an islamic terrorist worldwide he is the one respsonsible for swaping oil for cash with ISIS and funding them with all kinda military resources and attacking the secular sufi kurds. Under that islamic dogs leadership Turkey and turkish people have changed form being quite tolerant and secular people to quite islamist orientated and intolerant of non-muslim non-turkish people. And this is the kinda country that wants to join the EU to flood the european countries with muslim salafi intolerant nutjobs and muslim refugee's into our shores while blackmailing the EU for billions in cash to fund more islamist agenda.

'Salafist' Sikh temple bombers were known to police Published: 02 Jun 2016 12:20 GMT+02:00 There was no way of predicting a bomb attack on a Sikh temple despite two suspects being known to police, North Rhine-Westphalia authorities said on Wednesday. Hanover teen stabbed police officer 'on orders from Isis' (31 May 16) 'Known Salafist' allowed to work at Berlin airports (18 May 16) Church fights AfD for Muslim right to build new mosque (18 May 16) The crime could not have been prevented by the authorities, a report submitted to the state parliament by state interior minister Ralf Jäger stated. Authorities knew that the teenagers were radicalized Salafists who might have wanted to commit property crimes like theft and burglary, Jäger told broadcaster Westdeutsche Rundfunk (WDR). But there were no indications that in fact attacks were planned. Of course we know better today, but at the time we couldn't be 100 percent certain. Three people were hurt in the attack on April 17th, when a bomb exploded at the Gurdwara Nanaksar temple shortly after a wedding party when dozens of guests had left the building. Sikh preacher Joginer Singh points out the destroyed entrance of the Sikh temple following the bombing. Photo: DPA Windowpanes shattered with the force of the blast and the door was ripped from its hinges, while parts of the slate facade were also torn away. Witnesses said that they had seen a masked man throw a round object into the entrance before fleeing, and police found a discarded mask close to the scene shortly afterwards. Police quickly identified three suspects in the bombing as two 16-year-olds and one 17-year-old. All three are now in custody. Mother tipped off police Security authorities had had a tip-off from the mother of one of the teens, Tolga I., that he planned to travel to a Salafist country and join jihadist fighting, the report states. Police in Duisburg revoked the suspect's travel papers and interviewed him twice before ordering him to report to an de-radicalization program. While he claimed to be ready to co-operate, he never appeared at the appointment. The mother contacted officers with a second warning in March after finding an electric stun gun and suspicious drawings among her son's possessions. Police asked prosecutors for a warrant to search the teen's home but they rejected the request, saying more evidence was needed - which police were then unable to provide. Suspicions at school A second suspect, Yusuf T., had been reported to authorities by his school after making Islamist statements and behaving aggressively. While police searched his house in December 2015, they didn't find any evidence that he planned to commit violence. The school reported a second incident when Yusuf showed a video of an explosion on his phone. Police in Gelsenkirchen acknowledged that they had not done enough to follow up the lead. But state interior minister Jäger said that in his view the report showed the police had done all they could in relation to the three teenagers and that the attack was not caused by police negligence. A spokesman for the Gurdwara Nanaksar temple declined to comment on the police report when contacted by The Local. http://www.thelocal.de/20160602/police-had-tip-offs-about-sikh-temple-bombers

It would be better to use pakistan for what it can be used for just as they think they are using guliable Sikhs for their own agenda. Sikhs must be twice as wise as those in pakistani establishment. Lets remember they have fingers in many pies (afghan taliban, pakistani taliban, kashmiri groups, foreign jihad networks). They are no friend to Khalistan or Sikhs. However if the time comes they can supply weapons and there is a another war going on then there can be a mutual benefical relationship.The big problem I have with pakistan is that its islamic hellhole full of intolerant salafi sons of dogs who want to see everyone convert to Islam and live under their 7th century arab bullcrap. This kinda people we cant ever do business with or live with. Sufi muslims however on the other hand those who do not wish to cause our religion and our people harm are ok to deal with. Furthermore general shubegs brother said in an interview few years ago that his brother believed that the pakistani army was going to help if the Indian army ever invaded darbar sahib. He said he had contacts and transmitter or some kinda device where he could request assistance when the time comes and yet when it was pressed the pakistani's did not come to the Sikhs aid. Even if there was a transmitter or not or that it worked or not. The pakistani's knew what was going on, they had contacts with dal khalsa (who were based in pakistan) and could have sent in commandos and fighters across the border and joined the Sikh rebels. It doesnt take a genius to know within a day what was enfolding in indian punjab, they had news reports from radio and worldwide tv networks. Had they crossed the border they would have routed the indian army easily because the population in punjab would have risen against the indian army after hearing darbar sahib was attacked but the pakistani's held back showing their devious nature. They wanted the Sikhs to get massacred they were actively looking for such an incident so that they could use that as revenge for 1947 and 1971. Indians fighting each other without their troops getting killed what could be more sweeter than that.

I personally dont want a khalistan where everyone will be equal in power cos thats a reciepe for disaster a Khalistan needs to be model on the jewish model of israel.A Sikh state a democratic nation that has all religions people and none but the Sikh state will only work for Sikh interests and the demographics will always be majority Sikh so that no non-sikh can ever change the constitution or carry out anti-sikh agenda's against the state. Which is why all hindus and sikhs were purged from pakistan since 1947 because the islamists do not want non-muslims to have any power or say in the land they occupy. And which is why Sikhs are denied any true power in India because it would mean Sikhs can carry weapons and be free agency to tackle the wrongs they see in society whereas now they have to rely on mostly white british imperalist christian anglo saxon laws of indian authorities and courts to decide which can take years.

I personally think Sikhs should stop picking on these hindu leaders and preachers unless they say anything against Sikhi then they are free game for Sikhs to have a pop at. The Sikhs that annoy me the most are those that protest against modi when modi did not have a problem with Sikhs but Sikhs started to suck off indian muslims and jumped on their bandwagon against modi when indian muslims had not protectd Sikhs in 1984 nor helped them since or joined our protests. Indian muslims are gadars and always will be until the day we start to convert them or they are converted back to hindus i do not care for them and they do not care for Sikhs they rather see us victimised they even took part in congress mobs of innocent sikh civilians in delhi. You can find the list of criminals caught by police at the time and quite a number of them have muslim names. We need to recognise our allies and our enemies research who we are helping and aiding. That way we can understand who is really our friend and who we should support in their movements and protests. As for sri sri ravishanker he has only praised Sikhs from the video's I have seen of him and he has even been to Iraq to wish guru nanak's gurdwara rebuilt. So in my eyes he is a good man so far.

If you came across a Sikh and a non-sikh in india who is skeptical about khalistan and wondering why they would need it. What would be your arguments to convience them yes an independent khalistan is a good idea as opposed to them living in the Indian union? India is a major world power now and has a space program. It has long established trade, diplomatic and military ties with countries around the world. The simple and generic argument that sikhs need a country are not really going to help deliver results. People need to know economically they would be better of and how, their rights protected and how, their daily daal roti protected and how, their security protected and how,etc.

One thing Sikhs should learn from operation blue star. Is that demographics and military intelligence is key in winning the next battle. If you dont have enough numbers you can win elections or create a country. And if you don't have military intelligence you cant plan logistics, communication and resources to tackle the enemy at hand.

The reason why pakistani rats support khalistan is because it will break up their arch rival hindu dominated India. But true sikhs true Khalistani's want to break up Pakistan also so we that we can claim lahore as our capital. Even Jagjit chauhan in 1970's claimed that lahore will be capital of khalistan. And since then the pakistani govt and ISI been trying to stir Khalistan towards india only. The Indian Sikhs dont trust pakistan they hate it thus they haven't voted on mass for pro-khalistan party or candidate till date. So until simranjeet mann or his successor say they want parts of pakistan as part of Khalistan then there will be little chance for Sikhs in punjab to vote for them. During 1940s and 1950s the Sikh kingdom rulers especially rajah of faridkot formed jatha's and covert military units to prevent the creation of pakistan so that they could have a united india. The indian congress party leaders and jinnah begged the british imperialist indian troops to enforce the division of india by boundary force. Had the Sikhs rulers back then united to form a big military for Khalistan rather than fight for united India they would have prevented pakistan and created a khalistan already.

Op Bluestar Was Justified, Says Man Who Led the Attack Chandan Nandy June 3, 2016, 3:09 pm Thirty-two years ago on this day, the Golden Temple was besieged by the Indian Army under then-prime minister Indira Gandhis orders to evict and neutralise Khalistani militants led by Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale. One of the military commanders, Brigadier (retired) Israr Rahim Khan recounted the siege for The Quint last year. A day after curfew descended on the Sikh holy city of Amritsar on 1 June 1984, a young Sikh army Captain Jasbir Singh Raina, dressed in the traditional Punjabi kurta-pajama, entered the Golden Temple. He was just one among a couple of thousand devotees and pilgrims feigning paying obeisance at Harmandir Sahib that day. Operation Bluestar was Justified, Army Veteran Who Led the Attack Says He was on a risky undercover mission: to spy on the presence of heavily armed terrorists who had laid siege to the Golden Temple when there was little by way of intelligence on the extremists capabilities and their specific holdouts within the sprawling complex that is the spiritual centre of Sikhism. Patchy Intelligence There was only patchy intelligence from the civilian security agencies. So, once Prime Minister Indira Gandhi issued the order that set in motion a bold and audacious plan of action and Major General Kuldeep Singh Bulbul Brar selected me to lead Operation Bluestar, I sent in Captain Raina, recalls Brigadier (retired) Israr Rahim Khan, then a Lieutenant Colonel commanding the 10th Guards regiment. Captain Raina was followed by gun-wielding extremists wherever he went inside the temple complex. Once he left the temple, his debriefing did not yield much information, save some valuable information on a few of the visible gun positions of the terrorists. Of course, he had no way to find out where Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale and his well-trained comrades were hiding, Khan says, 31 years after he led the attack into the Golden Temple, the Sikh equivalent of the Vatican that scarred not just the shrine but the psyche of generations of Sikhs. Bhindrawale Turned Temple Into a Fortress The ornate and majestic temple had been transformed by Bhindrawale and his followers into a heavily-armed and strategically defended fortress. Brick and mortar defences, reinforced by sandbags, had been put up. And within the labyrinth of tunnels and rooms in the three floors of the temple, the terrorists had made all preparations for gun battle from which they as well as Khans battalion knew there would be very few survivors. The Harmandir Sahib, also known as Darbar Sahib and often referred to as the Golden Temple is the holiest Sikh gurdwara. (Photo: Reuters) The Harmandir Sahib, also known as Darbar Sahib and often referred to as the Golden Temple is the holiest Sikh gurdwara. (Photo: Reuters) 10:30 pm on 5 June was what, in the armys parlance, was HR, the hour when Khan and a small detachment of the battalion he commanded crossed the start line barefoot. Three tanks and two Russian BMPs or armoured vehicles trundled up to the Darshan Deori in the northern wing of the temple complex. Even before we entered through the Darshan Deori, we were under heavy fire from every road, lane, every gullee and every window, Khan recalled as he fidgeted with the antiquated Rolex dangling at his left wrist. Power Supply Had to be Cut It was pitch dark (since power supply in Amritsar had been cut) when the soldiers stormed in. Once inside the complex, the soldiers, armed with small arms LMGs, rifles, carbines and hand grenades found themselves vulnerable in the face of a volley of fire from the loopholes along the warren of rooms on the western and eastern flanks of the Parikrama. The loopholes had been converted into weapons pits. The fire came at low height, injuring my boys below their knees as they tumbled, Khan remembers. What Went Wrong During Op Bluestar? Recalls Army Veteran Who Led it It took a while before Khan, pistol in hand, led his troops up the stairs of the Parikrama, hurling grenades inside the dark recesses from where they could see guns spewing rapid fire. It took almost an hour before the heavily fortified rooms along the Parikrama could be cleared. But my objective was to take the Akal Takht where the terrorists were concentrated, Khan says excitably. Unique, Extraordinary and Fierce Battle By the time Khan reached the Akal Takht, he was grouped with a company of troops from the 1 Para Commando and another company of the Special Frontier Force, a special ops unit of the RAW. As the gunfight intensified, the army opened up with mortars. The marble floors of the three-storied Akal Takht had been dug up to create layers from where the terrorists fired at us. We moved up floor by floor and secured all of them by 2:30, Khan recalls of the unique, extraordinary and fierce battle. When first light broke on June 6, the tanks moved in with their machine guns firing. But this hardly had any effect on the solid structure of the Akal Takht. That is when the decision to use the tanks main guns was taken. The first shell blew a gaping hole in the golden dome and subsequent salvoes silenced the terrorists guns. Later, after isolated pockets of resistance were overcome, we found buried in the debris the bodies of Bhindrawale and his commander-in-chief, retired army Major General Shahbeg Singh, who had thrown in his lot with the extremists, Khan says. The 10th Guards lost 19 men while 51 were grievously injured. Collateral Damage Khan admits that several of the pilgrims fell as collateral damage and that the operation could have been swiftly brought to an end if troops had moved in simultaneously from the southern wing of the temple. The soldiers were stuck there because of a massive ironed gate. A tank had to be brought in to crush the gate before the soldiers could enter and end the resistance there, Khan says. There are no cobwebs in my mind and I believe that it was a justified order on the part of the government, the Kirti Chakra awardee beams, his light grey eyes gleaming. At that time Khan had no idea that Operation Bluestar would culminate first in Indira Gandhis assassination and then a prolonged period of death and destruction across Punjab. http://www.thequint.com/videos/2015/06/05/watch-op-bluestar-was-justified-man-who-led-the-attack-says

Was the radical Hindu plan to march or expose the Sikh youth ~ intelligence agencies having a field day after yesterday's events Having recorded the faces of those who gathered at Beas to face down the fascist radical Shiv Sena and its threat to march through Panjab, the Panjab police has today begun arresting young Sikhs under false charges and cases. According to latest news reports, Panjab Police yesterday arrested two Sikhs; Arvinder Singh (alias Mitha Singh) from the village of Pallia Khurd near Rahon in Nawanshahar and Mandeep Singh from Jagraon. According to police, the two men supposedly belong to the Khalistan Tiger Force (KTF) and Babbar Khalsa International (BKI) and they further allege they were preparing to target different dera (cult) heads, retired top-ranking police officers, and activists of fanatical Hindu organisations. In the past few months, Mandeep Singh who lives in Canada, had returned to India and Arvinder Singh had arrived from Doha in Qatar, where he works. But investigators have also admitted that both men travelled on valid documents and have no history or involvement in any crime. As the police story goes, "Arvinder and Mandeep Singh were further luring Sikh youths with a clean image and no criminal record to fox the security agencies and to launch strikes. Furthermore, police teams are now conducting raids at different places to arrest other members of these 'sleeper cells'. However, experience shows that Panjab police work hand in glove with political agents and these type of arrests and subsequent fabricated charges, are designed by people from 'high above' and used to threaten and terrorise the innocent. The Sikh Relief team are closely following these latest arrests and for further updates see their page at Sikh Relief.

Where are they photoshopped mr newbie with 2 posts? These are real pics from Sikh websites not RSS/Shiv Sena and that pic with dhumma and Mohammad Izhar Alam Khan was taken a few years ago. During a political rally

Back then there would have been a chance to create an independant Khalistan had the Sikhs been organised better militarily. The arms they were getting from Pakistan via ISI and american CIA helped but they had no training in urban warfare or real tactics to impact against the Indian army and government. The reason why I say Khalistan is already a reality in punjab these days is because nearly every Sikh in punjab is pro-khalistan now and khalistan does not have to be outside of the Indian Union it can be within it and be semi-automous. Back in the 80s ordinary Sikhs of punjab werent really for Khalistan they just wanted the discrimination and violence to stop by the government. But now they realise without their own nation state there is no justice or respect for them. They can see the farmer suicides, the river water stealing, family debts, female infanticides, drugs all over the place, the muslim immigrants from UP and bihari taking all the low paying labour jobs, corrupt punjab police, mafia gang crimes,etc People are fed up of lack of fairness in society and want a Sikh state khalistan to furfil their basic needs based on the Sikh religion.