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Yes that their income. Only Harmandar Sahib has over 2 lac devotees daily, if they even give 5 rupees each it makes it 10 lac a day. And most of the NRIs donate a LOT. Heres an example: They will have to pay for their misdeed but we have got to stop this system, is this any better than the Masand system Guru Ji abolished? Don't donate at Indian Gurdwaras anymore, or donate just a minimal amount. Donate to poor Sikhs/Shaheedi parivaars and organisation working for Panth. Your right. Christianity is dying in (West) Europe, but as you pointed out very much functioning in Northern America and even Australia. Only the other day my friend from Canada was telling how 2 Punjabi Christian aunties went from door to door trying to win converts. I saw a poster some time ago from Australia which had a photo of a Sikh couple converting to Christianity with the title 'from Sikhdom' to freedom' - proper Behzti. The thing is that our communities have different problems all over - we can't just say that one religion is our enemy. We have to defend our beloved Sikhi from all sides.

We already don't have a big majority in Punjab, it was 59% in 2001. If it continues like this within ten years we shall be a minority: 35% Sikh (that too mostly by name), 50% Hindu (bhaiyya influx), 10% Christian (high conversion rate of poorer sections of society) and 5% muslim (gujjar influx). SGPC have an annual budget of over 1000 crore rupees, where do they spend it? They eat half of it, and to fool the masses they (unnecessarily) renovate some Gurdwaras (destroying the original marble etc).

I know, thats why I support Khalsa Aid and there work that prevents poor Sikhs to take such drastic steps. But we keep crying about Hinduisation but forget growing Islam (due to Gujjars - I have heard first hand accounts how some of them spit while passing by Gurdwaras) and Christianity in Punjab? Paneer veer, you got it. They use Sikh appearence and vocabulary to fool uneducated masses. Their pastors usually keep the Sikhi saroop even after converting to fool us. They use Satsang instead of congregation, Satguru for Jesus etc. Then there are the so called lower caste people who also have gotten into this trap and adopted Ravidasia 'religion' instead of Sikhi. One suggestion; When you go India, don't offer more than 100rs while matha tekking. Use the remaining money to give to the poor for education, etc. Afterall Gareeb da Munh, Guru Di Golak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emyJMkPV4fA&feature=related Why are we turning a blind eye to all this? There were 292,800 Christians in whole Punjab in 2001 (census). Now there are 900,000. Thats what they say, exaggerated figures? Yes maybe, but their numbers have atleast doubled. One guy named Harbhajan Sion (in videos too) alone convert 2800 people from his village.

See Bhai Balwant Singh Rajoanas Chardikalaa mukh at 4:49-4:50 Dhan Guru Pyarey

Shahid Kapoor sees Kareena in Gurdwara too in Fida...

Not necessary. They have listed a set of Sabads you have to recite on their site: http://www.gurunanak...ation/guide.htm Full guide is on their site. They say that you have to do it out loud, you yourself have to hear your voice (its stated in the film too). Mangal Singh Dhillon - Bollywood actor who became a Sikh filmmaker.

The Singhs hair and beard was pulled Gutkas of Japji Sahib and Sukhmani Sahib were thrown away. Calendar with Gurus pics were torn.

I don't see why women aren't allowed to do that. Both men and women can marry anyone who is not blood related. Older generations abstained from marrying in fathers, mothers and both grandparents last name. (Only exception in this are some Khatris who do intermarry with blood relations.)

Actually we were to send money via western union, but if many people want to send, it be loss on Sangats parts (all their charges!). If SikhSangat could setup a temporary page where people can donate, and then send Sangats maya to Pak via western union. Check your PM.

Got the news personally from a Singh in Pakistan. The Singh in question confirmed this today when I called him up. Anyone wishing to contact the Singh can get his phone number via pm. He is a very enthousiastic Singh. Despite all hardships he tried to preach Sikhi amongst Hindus of his area. Probably this didn't go down well with those Brahmins. He was on the forefront to start this organisation (altough not much has been done till date - due to lack of volunteers/funds).

Lone Sikh family attacked by Brahmin mob in Tharparker, Pakistan MITHI, May 23: Sikh family was targeted in Pakistan Thar desert, at the hands of extremist Hindus mob led by Brahmins, enjoying unprecedented power encouraged by local police and administration. Sardar Jagjit Singh Khalsa, the head of the poor family was seriously injured by gun-toting and baton-slinging on Saturday night. Fed up of untouchability, caste discrimination and human inequality, Jagjit Singh had converted to Sikhism a few years back and had been and icon of hatred for the local Brahmins since then. Wearing traditional Sikh turban and decorating small sword-like dagger on his vest, Jagjit Singh lived in a quarter of a Brahmin Mangha Ram Sharma, who was convicted of corruption but fled to India ahead of conviction taking a booty of multi-million rupees. Mangha Ram was a Mukhtiarkar in Sindh Revenue Department posted in Left-BankOufall Drainage project and fled to India. On 16-03-2005, Special Judge (Anti-Corruption) Hyderabad had also declared him absconder u/s 512 and issued proclaimation under 87 Cr. PC and ordered to attach his movable or immovable property under 88 cr.Pc. Thus these quarters are government property now. On Saturday night a mob of a few hundred people, mostly Brahmins led by Mangha Ram’s brother-in-law Tulja Ram Joshi, Choith Ram Joshi, Dholo Joshi, Suneel S/O Jagdesh, and Lonio Sharma carrying weapons, axes and batons and fire arms, raided the quarter rented by Jagjit Singh Khalsa, with intent to kill him and severely wounded, but his wife and children saved him by shielding him and crying for help. They threw out his belongings after looting the valuables. Though subjected to murderous attack, the local police is not registering FIR of Jagjit singh,and entire Tharparker district administration stood behind the Brahmins due to their MNA Mahesh Malani, whose family is also preparing to flee from the country and is minting and amassing millions of rupees through corruption in government contracts. The poor Sikh, who was born in a Dalit/Scheduled Castes family, ran from pillar to post for help but no one listened his cries due to the fear of reprisal by Brahmins. Even local media people are shy to report the incident for fear or liking for the local Brahmins. It has become a routine for Brahmins in Tharparker district to occupy plots of Dalits and dislodge them from the homes in Tharparker but no one takes notice for reasons unknown. Jagjit Singh has appealed all the patriotic people including Government, apex court and human rights activists to come to his rescue and announced to hold hunger strike for justice. This Singh is our Sevadaar and the only Sikh (with his family) in southern Sindh.

Typo? lol

They replaced barood (ammunition) with retta (sand) and saron da tel (mustard oil).

We had our Akali Fauj under Gursikhs like Akali Baba Phoola Singh Plus we had the greatest generals like Bhai Hari Singh Nalwa, Bhai Sham Singh Attariwala, etc. Besides that he had a set of loyal Punjabi Muslims, wheter in his army or even Darbar such as Fakir Azizzudeen who was the chief minister of the kingdom. It were the Dogra Rajputs of Kashmir that betrayed our Raaj. They took 75 lakhs from Lahore Treasury and bhought Jammu Kashmir for themselves. Gaddaars.

Thats why veer, even though Gyan Ratnavli may not be written by Bhai Mani Singh and was written lateron in his name, it can include authentic sakhis, or sakhis where we can learn from.

(from another forum) A rare vaar written by the Supreme 6th Masters Dhadis Bhai Abdullah and Bhai Nathmall: Sacha takht Suhaeo Sri Gur paeke Shab barni nahin jae kahon kia gaeke Rav ras bhae maleen sudras dikhaeke Sri Guru Takht beraje prabhu tehaeeke Mir Abdul auo Natha jas kahe banaeke I think some more are available, so please post them here.

Waheguru Nahi veerji, I didn't mean it in that way. It was your duty to inform that this text is not in line with Gurmat, and you did. What I said was just on a small note. Thanks for uploading it DalSingh, and agree with your point of view.

Yes Prabhjot veerji, I know neither Sikhan Di Bhagat Mala (Bhagat Ratnavli) nor Gyan Ratnavli are by Bhai Mani Singh. Yet we can't deny that they were written between 1720s and 1760s, so '''might''' contain any useful info. One small benti, do not mind Prabhjot veerji. You have higher avastha than me, I am just a moorakh, but do not blindly believe everything in Mahan Kosh either. Bhai Kahan Singh did an amazing seva but he did say that Sri Sarbloh Granth was not the rachnaa of Dasam Pita. Please scan the translation Sikha veer.

This is the Vajab Ul Arz section from Sikhan Di Bhagat Mala, an 1700s Granth attributed to Bhai Mani Singh. This section deals with the Rehat for Sahejdhari Sikhs. Can somebody translate these two pages? Prabhjot veerji? Would be much appreciated.

Good job. Ajnala Singhs also protested during Singh Is King movies release and rode a jeep on one inspector who stopped them. Ajnala Singhs are the Singhs who were under Baba Thakur Singh of Damdami Taksal. Sikh Youth Federation Bhindranwala is also mainly run by these Singhs.

Any site, pdf or booklet with brief introduction with the main enemies of the Panth ? Everyone knows about Sirsa, Bhaniara, Ashutosh, Radhasoamias, but there are many other not so known ones. Better to crush these snakes before they get too famous.

here are some pics from their account not really a camp, more of a question-answer session with a few speeches?

The camp was held; From the pics it looks that the camp had only a few children, few Monas and mostly middle aged persons.

There are a lot of there pictures in 'Prabhdeep Singhs' album, so I doubt the camp wasn't held.