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are there any decent MMA clubs in the west midlands coventry/birmingham/leamington/nuneaton areas?

i wish all cities gurdwaras set up MMA training schools

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I have trained in a few martial arts: muay thai, wrestling and BJJ so I guess you could call this MMA. George St.Pierre a UFC champion has commented that he trains with the best of the best (best boxers, wrestlers and BBJ fighters) and then closer to his fight trains in bringing these 3 together.

http://www.simplyshr...es-workout.html

I thoroughly enjoy all 3 of these arts and find that I feel more confident that wherever I end up in a fight I have a skill set that can help.

In reality though I think, as with anything, alot will come down to the individual and how much discipline and dedication you put in to these.

would you recommend BJJ for fitness and self defence? is training with a GI applicable?

whats that?

hi

im planning to start training in brazillian jiu jitsu, i was wondering how people keep their kirpans hidden/secure when grappling/wrestling.

thanks

As far as im aware Flora EXTRA light is unsuitable, normal flora light is fine

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the best advice that i can give is to get to know local gursikh sangat, that will really help you to keep your kesh and not worry what others say/think. remember we are meant to stand out from the crowd

i personally started off wearing a patka/bandana whilst it was growing then after a few months started tying a dastaar. but some people start tying a dastaar right away (use youtube videos to learn).

i agree with rebel singh. we need to use more english in our uk gurdwaras. this is to educate the ever increasing proportion of children from families where punjabi isnt spoken at home, and whos parents dont send them to punjabi school. sure once they have the link with sikhi, they themselves will start going to santhiya/punjabi lessons. our community needs to be more open minded and try every avenue possible to inspire people within our community towards sikhi. If you cant see that the current system is failing miserably then you are blind to what the vast majority of punjabi sikhs in the uk know about their religion, basically very little/nothing. one of my cousins 16yr old kids recently said how he knows nothing about sikhi. if u ever do seva at a gurdwara camp you will be shocked how little some kids know.

its true, that there are now frequently english talks in uk gurdwaras, however only those kids with a link to sikhi will attend them. To reach out to the masses we need regular weekly english parchaar in all uk gurdwaras on a sunday morning peak time. i bet if even just one gurdwara in the uk trialled this for one month they would see a positive result. Now before someone tells me to start doing it, ill be honest that my knowledge of sikhi is very basic still i wouldnt even know where to begin. although i am still considering doing this locally soon. we need katha vaaks to the level of sant singh maskeen ji/gyani thakur singh ji whom speak several languages including english.

quite possibly the best post ever in the gupt section, but unfortunately such posts get very few replies

For a country that brands itself on Gandhi, non violence and cow protection, the death penalty in India and Balwant Singh Rajoana's imminent hanging on 31 March might appear to be an aberration. Not quite so when Balwant Singh's statement in the court is heard. He accepted being party to the assassination of the Chief Minister of Punjab, Beant Singh, on 31st August 1995. In court he said he had no faith in Indian justice and refused legal representation. He refuses to plead for clemency. This puts many Sikhs and indeed Punjabis who don't want a hanging in Punjab in some quandary.

The death penalty is a retrogressive step in Punjab. Before any European countries got around to abolishing the death penalty (Portugal 1867), the Punjab under the Sikh ruler, Maharajah Ranjit Singh (1801-1839), had removed capital punishment. British colonialism restored the death penalty.

India has inherited a penal and judicial system from its colonial past. With the best it has also continued with the worst of laws. Laws and rules that were meant to prop up colonialism, such as prolonged detention without charge, laws against sedition (Scottish leader, Salmon, would have been incarcerated if not hung in India by now) and death penalty among others.

But India went further by enacting laws that assumed guilt until proven otherwise (TADA) and a constitutional amendment (59th ) for 2 years which removed the primary responsibility of the State (Article 21 Indian constitution) to protect life and liberty. Until the UN reminded Indian legislators of the State's Raison d'eter. However plenty other Indian legal cocktails violate human rights.

In court Balwant Singh questioned India's commitment to its own constitution, human rights and the law citing the assassinated Chief Minister's actions. The Chief Minister, Beant Singh, won the election in Punjab in 1992 on a mandate of 9% of the potential electorate. Peaceful Sikh nationalists were detained and banned from standing.

The rest of Punjab reacted by boycotting the elections. India spun this by asserting the boycott was due to threats from Sikh militants. Repeated evidence and subsequent elections show that Sikh populations don't get intimidated by such threats.

Beant Singh's 9% electoral backing was hailed a return to democracy by many western countries and media. In Syria the west would call this overwhelming rejection of the regime! India obviously has a way with the west.

Beant Singh immediately gave the police force free reign to continue a policy of extrajudicial executions, torture and illegal detentions even more aggressively. During his four years, it is estimated that over 10000 young people were killed by police death squads given rewards for 'eliminating suspects', despite India's repeated claims that there were only 300 armed Sikh Nationalists. Question, who were the other 9700 killed?

Balwant Singh, the assassin, said that someone had to stop the Chief Minister. The west mitigated Beant's crimes with words such as 'democratic mandate'. The Indian State gave him constitutional cover. In India, not only religious texts, but even the constitution can have schismatic interpretations depending on who it is interpreted for.

Meanwhile the Indian Supreme Court, priding itself with 'judicial activism for human rights', ostriched itself through this period despite daily press reports of 'encounter's, called 'fake encounters' by Amnesty and UN. India has even acquired a wikipedia page for this 'incredible' activity. In India everyone is equal before the law but the law is not equal before everyone.

Following the Chief Minister's death by a human bomb, Dilawar Singh, Balwant's accomplice, the 'encounters' fell dramatically. Real democracy returned and the police was largely reigned in.

Balwant Singh questioned the court about Indian justice. During the attack on the Golden Temple in 1984 over 3000 innocent pilgrims, mostly children, elderly and women were killed by the Indian armed forces. A 16,000 strong army using helicopters, tanks and heavy artillery called these 'collateral damage' fighting a mere 200 armed Sikhs. The Army Officers got promotions for 'gallantry'. The Indian Army has always been too willing to kill its own citizens. Another colonial habit hard to give up.

When the Indian Prime Minister, Indira Gandhi, who had ordered the attack on the Golden Temple, was assassinated in November 1984, about 4000 innocent Sikhs in Delhi were massacred by a mob fed with addresses of Sikhs, petrol, iron bars and tyres by the political establishment and the police. Burning people alive with tyres around their necks (necklacing) was started by 'Non-violent' India in November 1984 beating South Africa by a year.

Balwant Singh asked the judge what was Indian justice doing about the politicians and police who had masterminded or been responsible during the four days of massacres. In fact they climbed the ladder. Tytler, directly implicated, became Union Minister while Narahsima Rao, then Home Minister, went on to become India's Prime Minister. Rao had failed to call in the army stationed only half an hour away.

Underneath the veneer of Gandhi and cow protection is a State whose mindless cruelty against minorities is baffling to an innocent observer. Perhaps that is the ironic 'incredible' in 'Incredible India' the slogan India uses to promote tourism. Killer police squads and non violent sadhus, all in one country.

India's crimes against its own citizens and the silence of the 'ethical west' do not mitigate Balwant Singh's actions. Like many Sikhs in history, he took full responsibility for what he did. He has refused anyone to plead on his behalf. But he has thrown a challenge to India and the world. 'Show the same commitment to constitutionality, law and human rights when the Indian State, its forces, its bureaucrats and its politicians commit heinous crimes against humanity'.

The removal of death penalty from the penal code inherited from its colonial past could be the first step towards convincing ordinary people that non-violence is not merely rhetorical propaganda but really embedded in the culture of Indians. Or perhaps cows are more sacred than humans in India. 'Incredible India?', of course!

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/jasdev-singh-rai/death-penalty-in-the-land_b_1370903.html

What significant Sikh literature was lost when the sikh reference library was burnt and looted in 1984 by the Indian government

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why hasnt this niddar singh been excommunicated from the panth?

"No Hindu No muslim"- Baba Nanak.

Sri GURU Nanak dev ji.

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i am concerned that i may have accidently had jhoot. I regularly play 5 aside football, and my water bottle was by the goal. although i didnt see anyone drinking from my bottle, it is possible that somebody may have had a few swigs without me noticing during the game. Would i need to go pesh just incase i did have jhoot? or can i just do an ardaas to guruji and then be more careful next time with where i place my bottle.

appears to have vanished the past 2 days, has the channel closed down?

just received a personal message from someone:

Sikh TV will back in a few days

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daas will be travelling to dubai and mauritius soon on a family holiday, and i was wondering what the kirpan laws in these countries are?

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perhaps ask sant ranjit singh dhadrianwale for help?

discussion on sikh channel now about mata sahib kaur academy

i practised wing chun kung fu in the past and would highly recommend it. It was developed by a woman, and so you dont need to be big and strong. Its very direct and applicable to street combat. JKD is supposed to be good however its difficult to know if you are being taught the genuine JKD martial art, the best instructors would be in the USA. from my experience, the martial art is irrelevent, the instructor is what is important. There are some excellent martial arts instructors out there and also some very crappy ones..

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i want to boycott sangat tv, but i genuinely like some of their shows such as derby live and discovery, their live broadcasts of parkash smagam recently in hayes and baba thakur singhs barsi last year were excellent. Has anybody from sangat phoned them to discuss these recent issues and asked for an apology and explanation as to what the heck is going on??

why do people keep setting up all of these different organisations. why must you have some sort of power and authority? our supreme body is akaal takht. In the uk we should all unite behind the sikh council uk. khalsa panth has its leader, sri guru granth sahib ji maharaj no one else

Does anybody know how much of the 1.2million loan had been paid over the past 2 years? Also which gurdwaras are run by gangsters?! ^^^

there was a big drive a few months back for donations to stop this place closing and lots of donations were made in a short period of time from sangat around the uk. There was so many posts on this website by people who attend the academy begging for donations. Why suddenly is it closing down with not a single mention to the wider sangat and how come nobody is doing anything to stop this from happening? what is the reason that this individual wants the keys? what are his plans for the property?

im really shocked, i hope sangat tv gets its act together and starts acting like a SIKH channel.

This is pathetic what are sangat tv playing at as a registered charity aren't their aims to promote Sikhi? There are already lots of islamic channels why are they trying to make one of our channels appeal to Muslims? Sangat needs to speak with them for clarification this is Getting out of hand

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14470772

can somebody please save this video upload it onto youtube.

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