yubacitysingh

why did my thread about having more sikhs join the army get deleted

satgyanpujari send niddar singh yourself and any shastar vidya student to a boxing gym or mma gym or muay thai gym and you guys will get your butts kicked

every martial art has a martial artist that competes and they all have sparring videos put up reason their no sparring videos of shastar vidya is so ppl who are easily brainwashed will believe all these so called claims of shastar vidya's ability even though their lies,and looking at sparring you can see how effective the martial art or not and this also explains why they don't compete cause the teachers of shastar vidya knows they would get their butts kicked

i didn't lie about anything you implied you seen boxers cage fighters and wrestlers defeated by the vidya then after i called out your lie you all of a sudden changed your story that they were sparring and defeated but yea i did a good job exposing your lie next many used boxing in battlefield heck the spartans during their training learned boxing and wrestling if they lost their shield and weapon, its common sence that every soldier learned fist fighting which is what boxing is and what it comes from fist fighting, and most boxing gyms dont' just teach boxing for the sport but also for self defence thats why you get alot of women at boxing gyms, same goes for muay thai its just not a sport its for self defence as well, but shows that you know less then a rock as well profesional boxers arn't allowed to use their fists cause their hands are registered as a deadly weapon, if a profesional boxer is to punch someone in a street fight they will be charged with assult with a deadly weapon reason for this is cause their skill set at being accurate speed and power, and after about 5 years in the gym if you give it 200% you will learn to drop guys twice your size with a single strike ans with muay thai you can break someonce leg with one strike after 5 years, and muay thai is a sport but destroyed every martial arts in standup in k1 pride and ufc and brazil no your not making me look childish or silly but you are trying to cause i keep showing that you know less then a rock and keep exposing your lies if you attend these classes go to class this weekend record sparring session and post it on youtube, or are you going to change your story with another lie about why you won't be able to do this 99.9% of people who understand and know martial arts and combat and military combat would call all your claims of shastar vidya bs and lies

don't know if this guy has any boxing knowledge but he's just using his fists

every sikh and punjabi girl should learn about her ancestors

i just like to finish with anyone can talk the talk but only few can walk the walk so if ppl who train in shastar vidya talk big game then why are they scared to walk it and compete

shastar vidya does not work theirs no sparring videos they don't enter any competitions if its so effective compete theirs so many tournments out their, every martial arts has martial artists taht compete unfortanatly most these martial arts don't work against martial arts like muay thai and ji jitsu and boxing and for weapons they can enter competition like this and theirs so many tournments out their to enter

satgyanpujari *DELETED*, that every martial art has competition and has fighters compete in different competitions accept for shastar vidya every martial art was created for the battlefield and mma all the martial arts in ufc used evolved out of these ancient martial arts *DELETED*, if niddar singh allows fighters to come and spar against vidya fighters why don't they compete the answer cause shastar vidya doesn't work today reason im being rough on you is cause *DELETED*, you have no evidence and anyone with *DELETED*

everything you call a fact is a *DELETED* because i exposed your *DELETED* you are just TRYING to insult me their is no way shastar vidya beat cage fighters wrestlers boxers and please get niddar singh and you yourself post some videos of these so called sparring sessions *DELETED* hadh thorh why don't you explain what this is cause you make it sound so dangerous when i know you are *DELETED* as well im going to *DELETED*, why don't you explain to me how these sparring sessions went with the vidya vs cage fighter explain like a commentator same way a commentator explains a boxing match or a ufc fight explain what the cage fighter tried doing and what the vidya fighter did i mean details, what type of jab did the cage fighter try throwing and so on every martial art was created for the battlefield and all the martial arts used in the ufc today evolved out of these ancient martial arts were they took what worked and left the garbage that didn't work out and inovated them but dude you look like an *DELETED* when you TRY to insult me and i keep exposing *DELETED* and everything you communicate means nothing hence you are *DELETED*and you should feel *DELETED*for being so easily *DELETED*about everything

ksingh5 i train in boxing

im not an expert in any martial art but i do train everyday to get better and better but im far from an expert and as well right now my number one focus is joining the marines

saddly jonny a few guys on sikhsangat and many others have bin scammed and brainwashed by niddar singh and his shastar vidya i want to know why don't these guys compete and why no sparring videos if its so effective its sad sikhs wasting their times on martial arts like these when they should be learning muay thai boxing and finding some israeli commandos to help train them to kill and even take up the army more sikhs that are trained the better off our community is and less ppl who will mess with sikhs

The Times when Hockey used to Singh The times when hockey used to Singh by Col. Balbir Singh Back in the 60's and 70's the foreign press use to think that turbaned gentlemen with the surname Singh must populate India almost entirely. In a team of 20 hockey players who represented India in the Mexico Olympic Games, 15 were Singh's. SINGING SIKHS (SINGHS) At present, India is not a force to reckon with in world hockey, but they have a fine history of global success in the sport. Indian teams have been littered with players of repute and flair and not only Sikhs bearing the name Singh. The Sikh community has provided the highest number of Olympic Gold medallists in Indian history. Sikh took over from Anglo ' Indians as the dominant group in the team after World War II. There have been a number of Dharam Singh and Gurbux Singh's but even more Balbir Singh's ' six in total. The most common, notably in the history of Indian Hockey is the name Balbir. It has been posing problems for all through out the world when they use to play together. The Balbirs who were in the national squad played for Punjab, Services and Railways. There were Balbir's galore in the 1967 Madrid International Hockey Tournament. Four of them played and each of them were, then representing Punjab, Services, Railways and Indian Navy. Another interesting thing about Balbir's was that they played in the forward line with the exception of Balbir of Services who was wing half but was known as the sixth forward who has scored a number of goals in international matches. All the Balbir's came from the Jat Sikh Community. Balbir (Sr.) Dosanjh, Balbir Singh (Jr.) Kular (58 Asian Games), Balbir Singh Kular, Balbir Singh Kular of Services, Balbir Singh of Railways and Balbir Singh Randhawa, Indian Navy. All Kulars came from one family, one street and the same village Sansarpur Near Jalandhar Cantt. Sansarpur has produced 14 Olympians and is known as the nursery of Indian Hockey. Kular’s have won 8 gold, one silver and six bronze medals in the Olympic Games. Besides the Olympics, Kular's have 4 gold, 8 silver medals in the Asian Games to their credit. The name Balbir has a glorious record in Indian Hockey. It finds mention in 5 Olympic and Asian Games and in total have bagged 12 medals. Not all Singh's are Sikh. Jaipal Singh captain of India in the 1928 Olympics was a tribal from Bihar and Kunwar Digvijay Singh Babu; captain of the 1952 Olympics team was from a landlord family of Bara Banki near Lucknow. S Kehar Singh got the honour of receiving the first gold medal in 1928 Amsterdam and in the process became the first Sikh to get the honour. 5th Asian Games Final 19 Dec 1966. Venue Bangkok India won the gold medal for the first time in the history of the Asian Games beating Pakistan by one goal. Balbir Singh of Railways scored the winning goal. In that final, three Balbir Singh's played - one from Punjab at inside-right, one from the Railways at out-side-right and myself at Right half. Strangely, all three of us were instrumental for the winning goal, which come in the second half: I initiated the move, which resulted in that goal. I passed the ball to my namesake from Punjab, who, in turn, passed it back to me. I then gave a through pass to Balbir of Railways, who ran forward a little and hammered the ball home from a very narrow angle. That goal proved to be the match winner. In that final, nine Sikhs played for India against Pakistan. But there is a different record that was set in the Madrid International against Belgium where ten Sikhs except the goalkeeper played for the national team. India won 2-0. The only non-Sikh, the goalkeeper, was G.K. Munir Sait. Full Backs: Prithipal Singh (Capt.) Mukhbain Singh, Rly. Half Backs:- Balbir (Services), Jagjit Singh, Harnekh Singh Forward:- Joginder Singh, Balbir Singh (Pb), Balbir Singh (Rly), Inder Singh and Tarsem. Balbir Singh is the first Sikh to lead an Indian team in the Olympics. Sikh representation has declined over the years. In Atlanta, Pargat Singh becomes the first Indian and a Sikh to captain at two Olympic Games. And finally, a sweet young thing says there were so many Singh's you can make a song about them. Goal Keeper: It is surprising that not a single Sikh has ever represented India in the Olympic Games as a goalkeeper. JAGJIT SINGH There were three Jagjit Singh's out of which two played for India and the third one did duty for Kenya in the 1968 Olympic Games. Jagjit Singh from U.P. was selected as center half and he represented India in the Tokyo Asian Games 1958 where hockey was introduced for the first time. He was not given a chance as center half in the last league match against Pakistan and instead Udham Singh a regular in side left was made to play at that position. Balbir Singh (jr) of Sansarpur was given a chance to play as inside-left since Balbir Singh was playing as center forward. India drew with Pakistan and lost the title on goal average. SANSARPUR: Then two Jagjits, both Kular's and from the same village came on the scene with one doing duty for India in 1964 and 68 and the other for Kenya. 1. Jagjit Singh (U.P) 2. Jagjit Singh Kular SANSARPUR 3. Jagjit Singh Kular Sansarpur 58 Asian Games 64, 68 Olympic Games. Represented Kenya in the 1968 Olympic Games Full Backs: Prithipal Singh (Capt.) Mukhbain Singh, Rly. Half Backs:- Balbir (Services), Jagjit Singh, Harnekh Singh Forward:- Joginder Singh, Balbir Singh (Pb), Balbir Singh (Rly), Inder Singh and Tarsem. Balbir Singh is the first Sikh to lead an Indian team in the Olympics. Sikh representation has declined over the years. In Atlanta, Pargat Singh becomes the first Indian and a Sikh to captain at two Olympic Games. And finally, a sweet young thing says there were so many Singh's you can make a song about them. Goal Keeper: It is surprising that not a single Sikh has ever represented India in the Olympic Games as a goalkeeper. JAGJIT SINGH There were three Jagjit Singh's out of which two played for India and the third one did duty for Kenya in the 1968 Olympic Games. Jagjit Singh from U.P. was selected as center half and he represented India in the Tokyo Asian Games 1958 where hockey was introduced for the first time. He was not given a chance as center half in the last league match against Pakistan and instead Udham Singh a regular in side left was made to play at that position. Balbir Singh (jr) of Sansarpur was given a chance to play as inside-left since Balbir Singh was playing as center forward. India drew with Pakistan and lost the title on goal average. SANSARPUR: Then two Jagjits, both Kular's and from the same village came on the scene with one doing duty for India in 1964 and 68 and the other for Kenya. 1. Jagjit Singh (U.P) - 58 Asian Games 2. Jagjit Singh Kular - 64, 68 Olympic Games. SANSARPUR 3. Jagjit Singh Kular Sansarpur - Represented Kenya in the 1968 Olympic Games Amsterdam 1928Gold Medal Kehar Singh (Punjab)The following is the list of Sikhs who have won medals in the Olympic Games. Los Angeles 1932 Col. Gurmit Singh Kular Sansarpur Gold MedalBerlin 1936S. Gurbachan Singh Gold MedalLondon 1948 Tarlochan Singh Balbir Singh (Sr.) Nandy Singh Gold Medallist Helsenki 1952Gold MedalistDharam Singh (Sr.) Sawroop Singh Udham Singh Kular 'Sansarpur Balbir Singh (Sr.) Nandy Singh Melbourne 1956 Gold MedalistBakshish Singh Balkishan Singh Gurdev Singh Kular ' Sansarpur Udham Singh Kular-Sansarpur Balbir Singh (Sr.) Hardial Singh Rome 1960Silver MedalistPrithipal Singh Balkishan Singh Joginder Singh Jaswant Singh Udham Singh Kular ' Sansarpur Tokyo 1964 Gold Medallist Prithipal Singh Dharam Singh (Jr.) Jagjit Singh Kular Gurbux Singh Joginder Singh Harbinder Singh Darshan Singh Kular - Sansarpur Balbir Singh Kular - Sansarpur Udham Singh Kular - Sansarpur Mexico Olympic 1968 Bronze Medallist Prithipal Singh, Gurbax Singh, Dharam Singh (jr), Harnek Singh, Balbir Singh, Harbinder Singh, Inder Singh, Gurbax SinghBalbir Singh Kular Ajit Singh Kular Jagjit Singh Kular Balbir Singh Kular Tarsem Singh Kular Munich 1972Bronze Medallist Mukhbain Singh, Varinder Singh, Harnek Singh, Harbinder Singh, Harcharan Singh, Kulwant Singh, Ajit Pal Singh Kular ' Sansarpur Moscow 1980 Gold MedallistDavinder Singh, Rajinder Singh, Gurmail Singh, Amarjit Singh Rana, Surinder Sodhi Seoul 1988 Gold Medal Kulbir Bhanwar played for Great Britain Col Balbir Singh is a former Indian hockey player and Olympian. He was also awarded the Arjuna Award. He also coached the Indian women's hockey team and has also been instrumental in bringing the Adivasis to the forefront of Indian hockey when he coached the Services team. Today, he is settled in Jalandhar in the state of Punjab and needless to say is very pained at the state of Indian hockey. Posted in Sports. By Saravjit Kahlon– October 13, 2007

lol nice TRY at TRYING to insult me, as well nice try at trying to accuse me of being a liar what did i lie about? please provide some sparring videos, you said you attend these classes please record and post videos on youtube or on the website of sparring sessions cause you will believe anyone on anything doesn't mean im going to believe you and your so called claims sorry but please ask niddar singh and yourself record and post videos personally you don't know how effective something is till you compete sorry cause your easily brainwashed thats your fault but me i actually question and annalyse facts and with shastar vidya their is no evidence to your claim on how effective it is

oh sweet

bhaisukhsingh i would like to debate you here rather then in private convo's and well keep it friendly cause i dont want the thread to get closed about martial arts and different arts of fighting and keep it educational in the private convo's you said no mma fighter trains in boxing like gsp and anderson silva and proved you wrong their providing a link of freddie roach training these two in boxing and in the private convo you said boxing would never work in a fight and provided a video but what those mma fighters saying that boxers wouldn't last in the cage, now how couldn't you understand that from that video point 1 i asked everyone not to waste their time with shastar vidya and learn things like muay thai and boxing point 2 the reason those mma fighters including me know that a boxer wouldn't last in mma cause ufc fighters are trained in muay thai, boxing, wrestlng, gracie ji jitsu and so on were as a boxer is only trained in boxing and no those mma fighters were not saying boxers can't fight cause they all train in boxing to but what they were saying was a boxer can't fight a mma fighter, they never said a boxer can't figh point 3 i said that if you read my comments in the other shastarvidya thread and if it was really banned that wrestlers muay thai fighters boxers beat all the traditional martial artists in the early ufc days and in brazil and japan when their was no rules fighting and ufc was banned from payperview cause of no rules and ppl fought bare fist, it was basicully street fighting in a cage and thats were the world learned that their our only 6 to 7 effective martial arts in the world today and rest are waste of time point 4 you don't understand the evolution of martial arts and you made that clear in the other thread about if britain banned shastarvidya, when you have competition you have evolution what happends is ppl find ways of getting better and finding what works and making it work better and through competition they find out what doesn't work and dump it hence why mma fighters don't train in things like kung fu competition is what has led to inovation in martial arts and thats what i mean by evolution in martial arts just like how buisnesses compete against eachother to make their products better and lower the costs like tv's, same thing with mma through competition martial arts has gone through great deal of inovation were the moves keep getting more effective and easier to learn and use so martial arts today as in mma kleep getting lethal

is it just me or did sikhsangat change the format on the site today, cause it was totally different this mourning

more reasons sikhs need to learn to fight boxing muay thai weights army

and all martial arts were allowed in ufc and still are and before dana white took over ufc had no rules it was anything goes hence why it was banned from pay per view and guess what all these so called lethal martial artists got knocked out by boxers and wrestlers

Kali, Eskrima and Silat all have competitions and tournaments. And the contestants don't die from the deadliness. So whats with all the bs and why don't shastar vidya have any videos up of sparring sessions and why arn't they competing__________________

now whose lieing cisco_singh or satryanpujari i know both you guys are but lets break something down satryanpujari claimed that boxers wrestlers cage fighters were defeated by niddar singhs shastar vidya fighters at niddar singhs training facility and cisco_singh says shastar vidya is to lethal to be used in competition if that were true then how would cage fighters boxers wrestlers competed against shastar vidya fighters like satryanpujari claims even though he hasn't provided evidence of this but just claims to be eyewitness to this so yea cisco_singh you claim shastar vidya is to lethal for competition and satryanpujari claims that wrestlers boxers cagefighters have visited niddar singh and his fighters and were defeated cisco_singh shastar vidya to dangerous for competition satyanpujari apparantly boxers cagefighters wrestlers came to compete in niddar singh's training facility and were defeated cisco_singh shastar vidya can never be used in competition satyanpujari claims it has bin used in form of competition which was inviting wrestlers boxers cagefighters to niddar singh's facility to compete against shastar vidya fighters both your guys claim can't be true

actually those guys know nothing about martial arts i call bs with all this shastar vidya hype cause they keep making stupid excuses rather then admit their to scared to compete, dude their use to be tournments and promotions which allowed anything goes fighting these urban myth's about this martial art or that martial art being so dangerous like kali, eskrima, silat and many others arn;t dangerous as ppl claim cause they always got beat and defeated buddy but your the moran who thought boxing and wrestling was a waste of time clearly showing that everything that you communicate and say is bs wrestlers beat these so called dangerous martial artists, their have bin many tournments and promotions run by gracie family and others in japan america brazil with guys comming from all martial arts backgrounds including eskrima and so on best of the best from all the so called to lethal martial arts and they got rocked against wrestlers and boxers, name any of these so called to dangerous martial arts like eskrima and you'll find them competing and getting defeated what does uk martial arts magazine have to do with it or open martial arts demonstrations, don't waste your time and train in real combat up to date combat systems i want to see some videos of sparring so it can be properly judged and no coward excuses i want to see these guys compete and ive searched facebook and shastarvidya website and seen the videos thats why i call it a waste of time show some sparring videos AND EVERYONE WHO SAYS THEY ATTEND OR HAVE ATTENDED CLASSES RECORD VIDEOS OF THEM SPARRING OTHERWISE I CALL BS

an when i say it would get destroyed today on the battle field i mean in terms of fighterjets guns and so on reason i say shastar vidya wouldn't last against other martial arts is cause their is no evidence how effective this stuff is, no videos of sparring they never competed or compete in real promotions and tournments all their our is claims how effective it is which sound made up

the other thread is about the history if it was really banned by british but i would like to discuss how effective it is, it wouldn't last on the battle field thats forsure but when it comes to hand to hand combat how effective is it someone describe to me the techniques used, and why arn't their any videos of sparring and proof that this martial art works personally i think a shastar vidya fighter would get destroyed by boxers wrestlers muay thai fighters and the list goes on