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Jonny Baba has also arrived supporting the farmers
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15 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:
Yeah, they exploited the fact that maybe a few people distributed laddoos in Southall on Indira's demise, to help whip up a frenzy in Delhi. Our lot need to be more astute than this.
But that too was done in response to Punjabi Hindus in Amritsar who distributed sweets to soldiers after the completion of operation blue star. It was like rubbing salt in the wounds of the Sikhs. So Sikhs responded by doing the same when Indira Gandhi died.
Sikhs are never a proactive community who starts the Panga. We only do likewise when our opponent does it first.
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3 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:
On the interview, Barkha Dutt mentions that she is Punjabi, but Deep Sidhu basically told her that she does not know the ground realities of Punjab as a Delhite.
Then she tried to emphasise her credentials.
Deep Sidhu's polite retort was to kind of say ," You have no idea what you are talking about"
I can't understand these types. They suddenly remember their Punjabi roots when it suits them.
She probably can't even speak Punjabi. It's very common among Punjabi Hindus to speak Hindi in their household just like Punjabi Muslims speak Urdu with their family members. While Punjabi Muslims do it due to their inferiority complex that they are ashamed to speak their own mother tongue, Punjabi Hindus do it due to an identity crises. During the early 1900s their leaders who were heavily influential Arya Samaj would argue with Sikhs that Punjabi is nothing but a dialect of Hindi so Hindi in the Dev Nagri script should be promoted. They don't even want to acknowledge a separate ethnic identity of Punjabis.
Sikh scholar Pandit Kartar Singh Dakha wrote in response a book refuting them. The book is available to read on pdl site.
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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:
We should be smart enough to not fall into this trap. I, as an NRI realise the India media are looking for any opportunity to defame us, so why not those people who've actually suffered at the government's hands be careful with their words? We can't keep being setup like this, fall into the trap baited for us, and then get upset about it. Keep Indira out of it. Stick to farming talking points. They want us to clown ourselves, and we do it every time. This hot tempered bravado is present in nearly every Sikh, lol, but it needs to be controlled.
That's just the thing. Sometimes our own people get into Josh and don't think before speaking. Now the state media is using this same video to discredit these farmers. But it's real low level dishonesty on the part of right wing Hindus to discredit genuine concerns of farmers by using lies and half truths. It's because of things like this that they push Sikhs into the arms of Muslims and then they blame ISI and Pakistanis for misguiding Sikhs.
Let's just hope that Modi does the smart thing and listens to the concerns of the farmers, but that seems too far fetched.
As for the original video, Barkha Dutt really got triggered when Deep Sidhu used the term state terrorism. She acknowledges wrongs being done to Muslims by the state but doesn't want to acknowledge state terrorism that was done to the Sikhs that is well documented by all human rights organizations. They're not even open to the discussion as you can clearly see.
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This farmer protest has done one thing, it has exposed right wing Modi media. How they are all trying very hard to portray this farmer protest as a Khalistani protest even though Hindu farmers from Haryana and western UP are involved too. But still they spread their propaganda because one random Punjabi farmer said something along the lines that "we got rid of Indira Gandhi then who is Modi". And they are showing that same video all over on repeat. It's shameless to say the least. At least be honest. They are not even discussing the issue and are just repeating the "this protest is being led by khalistani terrorists" point.
How does one even discuss an issue when the government and their blind followers are so dishonest.
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In this debate which was suppose to be about farmer protests in Delhi this journalist who is a known liberal Hindu of Punjabi background exposes her anti Sikh sentiments. Her name is Barkha Dutt. Just like other liberal Hindus like Shekhar Gupta who displays his genocidal pulse by praising mass murderers like KPS Gill and Gen Brar, she also insists that Deep Sidhu must call Sant Bhindrawale a terrorist in order for her to carry on this conversation. She repeatedly cuts him off, doesn't even allow him to finish his point. While most of us associate only right wing RSS type Hindus to be anti Sikh but these far left liberal Hindus are even worse in some aspects. They (liberal Hindus) have no problem with supporting Muslims or Christians but deep inside they hate Sikhs when Sikhs ask for their rights.
Far left leaning Liberal Hindus should not be confused with average Hindus who don't really care about far left or right wing ideologies. But these far leftists should be identified. Sikh scholar Ajmer Singh is probably the only Sikh vidhvaan to identify these far leftist Hindus as being anti Sikh.
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Keep control of the forum Admin ji. But maybe you can give some younger ones admin duties
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Chatanga ji, you are correct about the Raja of Patiala. He was so loyal to the English. He was staunchly in favour of keeping India united. When it was clear that the British were leaving most of the Rajput Kings of Rajasthan had decided to band together and keep their independence. But the Raja of Patiala along with another loyal Indian Raja threatened them and ruined their aspirations.
Patiala raja was the one leader who had the military might to form a Sikh state but he was so pro Congress and pro India that it was impossible to convince him. His son, Captain is today even a bigger Dusht than the Badals.
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There has been a lot of propaganda against Master Tara Singh. This propaganda was especially flamed by Sant Fateh Singh's group of Akalis who were rivals of Master Tara Singh. Pakistanis hated him because he destroyed their dream of swallowing up all of Punjab instead of getting just their demographic share. Many Khalistanis who grew close to Pakistan after 1984 took up the Pakistani narrative of Master Tara Singh of making him into some sort of Hindu agent to divide Sikhs and Muslims. If it wasn't for Master Tara Singh we would have ended up like the Sindhi Hindus.
After partition his life was a constant struggle to get Punjabi Suba created. He went to jail repeatedly. He never amassed any wealth and lived a simple life unlike today's politicians.
As for Ambedkar, I think his conversion is largely blown out of proportion. Sikhs had welcomed him to convert. A Sikh royal family even offered him the hand of their daughter to his nephew if he converted. Akalis back then opened up a Khalsa college in Maharashtra in participation that he was going to convert. And when he chose Buddhism only a few lakh followers of his converted not millions of Dalits as had been expected.
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1 hour ago, Sat1 said:
Hell is a state of mind. A human can live a demonic psychology. It doesn’t matter what the being looks like, it’s their actions.
I don't know about the Abrahamic 'hell', demoness or female satan. But the Dharmik concept of Nark exists as does Dharm Rai and Jamdoots, chitr gupt, paap and punn.
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It happened because of the female demand of wanting to marry a clean shaven boy that men/teens began cutting their kesh and beard. All though we say all caste are the same but you can clearly see which girls belonging to which caste are demanding clean shaven boys the most. Jattis top the list. Khatri and RamGaria girls are much better in this regard which is why their boys are more Sabat Surat. J&K and Hazuri Sikhs are probably the best of Sikhs. A clean shaven Sikh is almost non existent in their ranks.
Even within regions there is a difference. Doaba is where you will find the most clean shaven boys followed by Majha. Within Punjab Sikhi is strongest in Malwa. Maybe it is due to the high degree of influence of Sants in Malwa
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On 9/8/2020 at 7:41 PM, Sat1 said:
Kali is a demoness who drinks blood. Basically she’s the female satan. I’m not sure why the Muslim guy did that though, very weird.
"Demoness", "female Satan", that's a very Abrahamic way of looking at an Indic concept.
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The guy on the left wearing purple shirt is an open atheist, I remember reading this posts on Facebook. Thinks kudrat is God. Typical Dhandri-Neki soch.
If they don't believe in God then why carry on this Pakhand of pretending to follow the Gurus when they clearly don't.
They don't care about evidence which supports Dasam Bani. They have downgraded the status of Guru Granth Sahib ji by simply calling it a Zaria(ਜ਼ਰੀਆ) to achieve a good life in this world and nothing more.
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4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:
I don't think I entirely agree with this. We shouldn't view this as a Theists Vs Atheists battle at all. While I would never destroy or insult another group's scriptures, I don't care what a Muslim holds dear to his heart when it comes to his religion.
All religions are not equal. Legitimising depraved belief systems in the mistaken belief that we God-believing folk are in the same boat and that we need to stick together, is wrong. My Waheguru is not their Allah. That's not my manmati interpretation. Read the Quran, and then tell me if the Akal Purakh described in Gurbani is the same. Not a chance.
I agree with what you have written. But if you follow what these hardcore atheists believe they don't differentiate between the religions like we do who know not all religions are equal. For people like Nawabi all religions are the same and must be discarded for western atheism. They don't differentiate between Semitic or Dharmic religions. They are just as narrow minded as the followers of the Abrahamic religions.
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We should not be too supportive of these western atheists. I saw a video of this guy Armin Nawabi last week where he tore a page of the Quran and then spits on it before crumbling it. Even though I'm not Muslim but I found that very disturbing. After that he offends Hindus by making an objectifying sexist comment on their Goddess.
For Hindus they call her Maa Kaali. Maa means mother. He says he is doing this to make religious people desensitized to insults to their religion. If he has a valid point to make he should make it but there is no point in insulting other people's religion which they hold dear to their hearts.
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On 9/4/2020 at 8:13 AM, Iqjatt said:What I heard from someone who witnessed the whole event was that It was all Indian students..
The haryanvis got smashed up initially.
Then cops came, then all the Punjabi students ran away.Jassi was then ambushed when he was by himself, someone hit him from behind his head with a weapon of some kind....he was knocked out bleeding pretty badly from wound to back of head.
typical Hindu’s though aye...hit a man from behind...lolz,
first they have the nerve to hit someone from behind and then celebrate that chickenshit behaviour all over YouTube.. should see all the comments on YouTube by these so called Indians celebrating the shameful behaviour.
ahi ta Farah Honda Punjabi’s da and these haryanvi’s or rest of Indians... no honour,
Pith picho ki vaar hunda, it’s shameful.It was a small minor fight. 10-15 guys on either side. I've been in bigger fights when I was in high-school. But what's really surprising is how Hindus all over the Internet promoted this story as if it was the battle of Waterloo itself! Even their major right wing Hindutva news sites like opindia wrote an article about this minor fight between Indian students.
In the group fight itself they lost but by attacking a lone Sikh and that too from the back hitting him on the head with a rod they prove their cowardly mindset.
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This is the new wave of feminism. They see besharmi as something that should be cheered. We have even seen on this forum a Sikh female who says a Sikh woman should be able to dress in a sluty besharm fashion and if we don't support her then we are "sexist" and backward.
Ghor Kalyug. Things will just get worse in this yug
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Punjabis won the fight. They jumped him when he was alone after the fight took place and hit him on the back of his head.
Hindus (especially Punjabi Hindus) are all cheering this cowardly attack by 10-15 haryanvis on a lone Sikh as if it is a huge victory over the Sikhs.
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I have also heard Dhakki wale Sant are really Bhagti wale Mahapursh. The whole place has a very spiritual atmosphere with jungles and animals. Dhakki Sahib is said to have been infested with evil spirits before Baba ji came here to do bhagti.
Our heretics like missionaries, upgrades(dhandri/neki) really hate him and do a lot of propaganda against him.
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Agree with koi. No need to ban him. When he questions our Gurus and is shown a similar parallel within his own religion he never refutes it or it seems maybe he was unaware of it. He needs to study his religion more and acknowledge these things do indeed exists in his religion.
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11 minutes ago, proactive said:Very true. The Muslims have been lying for decades that the Quran is preserved and that every word in every Quran in the world from the 7th century down to now are exactly the same. Now it looks like there are hundreds of Qurans which have both minor and major differences between them. The Quran which a majority of the Muslim world reads was only chosen in the 1920s in Egypt as the official Quran for Al Azhar university and the Saudis then chose that Quran when they wanted to start their <Edited> push into the rest of the world. Just this much is enough to destroy Islam in any rational Muslim.
Mohammad Hijab and Yasir Qadhi together destroyed the credibility of the Quran that all the Christian apologetics could not have done. These two fools shot themselves in the foot. Now they're taking down their videos from YouTube. But it's too late. They opened the Pandora's box. Christians, ex Muslims, atheists are having a field day
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58 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:
Qawwali is not Islamic prayer any more than Bhangra is for you, it was not prescribed by the Prophet as a form of worship for Allah, case closed. Keep trying though Kaur.
If Mohammed was born in India and started his religion here, Azan would probably sound like Qawali or Bhajans. The only reason It just sounds like an ancient form of Arab Yodel is because it was started in the Arab peninsula.
But even you must admit Mohammad banning instruments, hatred for dogs and not being allowed to buy a house on mortgage because of interest is illogical in today's world. And he threatens you with iternal hellfire if you don't believe in these superstitions. Life must suck as a Muslim.
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You never know he could very well be a Hindu. This forum is under the radar of RAW. If he is an undercover Hindu then he's doing a pretty good job in destroying any goodwill forum members had towards Islam. I myself was sitting on the fence in regards to Muslims and even regarded them as potential allies against Hindus. But this guy forced even me to show him a reflection of his religion when he attacks my religion. But he never makes a valid point defending his religion which shows he has little or no knowledge of Islam. He makes strawman arguments by personally attacking David Wood instead of refuting his argument which just means David Wood is irrefutable in regards to his religion.
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12 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:How many of you on this forum lack reading comprehension? I'm speaking ONLY of the Abrahamic faiths here, not Sikhi.
Make a thread on whether any of the Guru's were God or not, from my interactions some of you think they were God and others think not.
But from the Jewish tradition have you ever heard of the followers of David, Moses or Abraham drinking the blood or urine of Jewish prophets? Only the early Muslims did this. You have to admit Muslims like the Christians before them deviated from the Judaic tradition that you claim a link you. All this is available in the Hadiths. Maybe you should study your own religion before trying to disprove others.
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Farmer protest exposes anti Sikh nature of liberal Punjabi Hindus
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