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Bro, the guy who posted the thread goes to Aston university, hence Birmingham. Hence what I post is greatly relveant. Exceptionally one of the art Wing Chun I practised for over 10 years with the Uk wingchun association. HQ is based in jewelery quarters and they run good classes at Birmingham Uni, Also Brother if you read my post I mention more than four other martial arts teacher, that I know or have trained directly with in Birmingham. I have spent more than 15 years in Birmingham and know the place, expecially the martial arts community. Not to be arrogant I do consider myself to be a seaoned martial arts, even b4 shastar vidya came down the line. When you say it unsubstantiated nonsense, I have written out the full lineage of the akara in the thread for linages please take a look. No other singh or anyone has posted to the request of that singh. Cult-like mentality of his followers, "pot calling the kettle black". It's not gatka, where one singh told me their are 10 levels, at level 10 you can start training with real weapons, learn to ride a horse. However to get to level 10 you have to take Amrit lol. There is no cult like mentality, I'm a mona I like the historical side of what Niddar Singh says, but I train with him because hes a exceptional martial artist. Also theres no one who teaches classical sword fight as he does. All other arts tend to do kata (forms) or drill techniques like robots. If want to discuss martial arts I train at the london akara, come down. I think I have answered all your questions, no please answer mine: 1)So what do you base your conclusions on about Niddar Singh? It's seems a lot of singhs have a problem with shastar vidya, even when top martial artist not just from UK but globally rate it. Also many museums such the V & A in london and many more hold Niddar Singh to be a expert in the field. 2) So what is your expertises in martial arts and sikh history? 3) So how many years have you been training in the martial arts? When you talk about lack of repect we show, please read the posts on this forum, expecially yours. Will be very interested to see your replies to my 3 questions.

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Guru Da Chella, in my background if some one can't give the lineage, then you have to assume...... Gatka is and always will be the illegitimate child of shastar vidya, extremely bad child. So what do you call a Gatka person, who is shamed of telling his lineage, you got it one. By the way a lot of the Gatka guys in UK learnt from Namdev in Germany. He's a gora singh, but been a singh for over 30 years. Funny thing is he now studies under Gurudev Niddar Singhji. Here's our shastar vidya lineage. :fight: 1. aba Darbara Singh (who also learned from Akali Nihang Guru Gobind Singh Ji) 2. Akali Nihang Baba Budh Singh Ji 3. Akali Nihang Baba Sukha Singh Ji 4. Akali Nihang Baba Lakha Singh Jie 5. Akali Nihang Baba Sawan Singh 'Bangroo' 6. Akali Nihang Baba Mangal Singh Ji 7. Akali Nihang Baba Giana Singh aka 'Rabb Ji' 8. Akali Nihang Baba Mohinder Singh Ji aka 'Katapa Singh' 9. Nihang Niddar Singh Ji (present 'Gurdev') Genius you do Gatka I apologise if I said anything wrong, if you can give me your real gatka lineage? Also the nihung singh's you keep on going on about who know the real stuff, you must know there lineage? Before starting any vidya in traditional akara the Gurudev states all his Guru's, you have to show respect to the ancestors. Thank u. Jai Hind!

Vaheguru ji ka Khalsa Vaheguru ji ki Fat-heh Here's my Bio. I've practice Wing Chun for 16 years, with James Sinclair: & thai boxing, also eskrima (weapons) and Brazilian jujitsu coming up to 11 years. I also had a look at kalaripayat with Paul Whitrod and back in India with the biggest Kalaripayat organisation in Kerala. I also have trained with Sifu Abide (Birmingham) + Sifu Zab (Walsall) for over 10 years, until I left for Uni, hence I was kid. Not practising now. Brazilian Jujitsu- Brings out the Punjabi in me, I train in London, last 11 years, continuing practising (playing) as it's a good sport. I did Silat (seminars & instructors course) with Richard Debordes (google him), and attended seminars with Maul Mornie and Steve Benitez. (Steve Benitez is missing, he close up and moved, last I heard he's in Indonesia, might be back in the UK. I also popped in and out of Ninjitsu, as my friend teaches at Birmingham University. All are very good. I also know Sardar Singh Khalsa (teaches WC + JKD) not personally, met him at a martial arts show, a few months ago. Nice bloke. Unlike Hari Singh, Sadar Singh, when I said fateh he replied in kind. Sardar Singh Khalsa also respect what Niddar Singh has achieved and is no way hostile towards him. If you have the chance go and try out his class. On the topic of Hari Singh, I've heard he spent years doing eagle claw. Don't know if he's any good. He and his crew does the dragon dance at the Birmingham martial arts show. I have beaten up one or two of his boys that came down to my Wing Chun class ages ago in Birmingham. This is before I started shastar vidya. To me Harry Singh has a problem with Niddar Singh I don't know why and really don't care. But how rude is it to say fateh to someone and they don't respond. I expected better from the guy. Even if your dushman says Fateh you respond in kind. Also 19 year old kid came to the akara, he showed us a nice looking eagle claw form that Hari taught him, then we asked questions, basically the chinese would say his form is empty, i.e. lacks knowledge of application. Then Gurudev showed eagle pentra , with application wow. In 2004 my attention turned to Shastar Vidya after picking up martial arts illustrated. Interview was from Krishna Godhania, eskrima guy based in Warwick. He's a nice guy look him up, I think he might also teach in Birmingham. To me if you live in around Birmingham, there is only one place to train that's with Niddar Singh. Honestly the guy is world class. He recently did a seminar with Pat O'Malley, go to any martial arts forum on kali and SE Asian arts, you would know what a big name Pat is. Pat heads up Rapid Arnis, and is also developing programs for Us law enforcement. There are also people trying to set up a seminar with Pat, Maul Mornie and Niddar Singh. The martial arts you mentioned and I mentioned above are all good. But shastar vidya is our own art. You could say Gatka is our own art, but there's no science behide it, real martial artist will take the mick. Unless your doing Real Gatka, ask Genius about that. Gatka is actually a Islamic sword dance, I think you can utube it. I spent over 2 decades (started young) can say without any hesitation that Shastar Vidya is not a art that Niddar Singh made up. It's impossible. Shastar Vidya covers all bases that all modern arts cover: Ground fighting stand up grappling striking pressure point weapons Stuff that normally is not covered in other arts: Battle formation Fighting as a group Swordsmanship (Niddar Singh, truly is one of the last classical swordsmen teaching openly. There are others but they either don't teach or they got partial knowledge.) Group attack So would you like to start shastar vidya? If your a singh, you will learn to use your kara, and how kesh and dastar can be used as a weapon. I see you going to Aston University. There are two singh's at the Birmingham Akara who got 1st class in pharmacy, and there are many professionals at the Akara. This comment is not here or there. But it shows the calibre of the people you will be training with. If you talk to gadda you will not get anywhere, except a lot of rubbish about different styles. If your a singh you need to think how can my kesh, and how your roop as a singh be used in combat. You will not get that in any art except for shastar vidya. You sound like an intelligent guy, think about it, shastar vidya evolved for people who wear a Dastar and have beards. I ask again, Would you like to start shastar vidya? Or there is a singh who teaches classical sikh martial yoga in handsworth leisure centre on Mondays I think. Very good for fitness. Jai Hind.