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Bachittar Natak has a very deep meaning. Satguru Sri Guru Gobind SIngh Sahib ji Maharaj is very intelligent and disclosed Naam in many ways. Some take the title Bachittar Natak very literal and say Satguru was writing a drama and its not true events in Maharaj's life; Maharaj is just trying to teach. Speaking to Gurmukhs, they tell us first to learn the meanings of Shabads from Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj from Gurmukhs and then move to learning Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj from Gurmukhs. In Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj we are taught over and over that this world is a play and and Sri Vaheguru Ji Maharaj is the director of this play. When Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj titled his past life as Bachittar Natak it is not to say its a false drama, but it is the drama of the creator that took place. Sri Vaheguru Ji Maharaj placed Maharaj on this universe as himself and played out the world drama, where Sri Vaheguru Ji Maharaj sent down Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj as himself to spread Gurmat.

We want to enjoy life by dancing, chlling with friends, attending parties. But we see doing paat as a chore and find no enjoyment out of it. Three times a day we have to sit down and do paat. But have we asked Guru Sahib what real enjoyment in life is? Here is a challenge, find a shabad from Gurbani that says dancing, chilling with friends, attending parties is enjoyment and I'll stop writing here. Satguru has said there is only one enjoyment and that is doing paat all day and everyday for the rest of your life. Many of you will say this is fanatical and run away from it. But tell me when you love someone to the point of going mad, then you sing their praises (doing paat) night and day and find nothing else important. Here comes the next part, when you love someone this much then you're ready to follow every direction they give you with every breath. Ever wonder why Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj said rehat is more dear to me than the SIkh? Rehat is more dear to Satguru because his (Sri Vaheguru Ji Maharaj) beloved gave him these instructions to follow.

We all have criteria for what we want in a spouse. But have you ever asked, looked at rehat Maryada and said this is what Sri Vaheguru Ji Maharaj want from us because we are his soul bride. We will never accept a person as a spouse because they don't fit what we want in a spouse. So will Sri Vaheguru Ji Maharaj unite with him a soul bride that doesn't even love him; if you loved Sri Vaheguru Ji Maharaj, then you would follow his instructions and actually enjoy doing paat and enjoy following rehat maryada.

But no we defy his teachings and say i want to enjoy life by dancing and doing what i find enjoyment in. Well if this is the case, then your Bachittar Natak will be to come and go in the cycle of birth and death.

So why did you learn english? Basic premise, your parents your self felt the need to enjoy (keyword enjoy) economic profit. Please life is not black and white, and neither is guru sahib.

Dont make that mistake, of taking Gurbani too literally, Sri Dasam Bani contains a lot of mysterious and deeply profound teachings. The natak that Maharaj wrote is Bachitr, simply wonderful.

It isnt written to be acted out on a stage, but to be acted out through living. The living of a Sikh.

You clearly missed the point.

be happy your not gay

and if your a guy who checks out guys be happy your gay.

Can't work against biology my friend.

I can understand your frustration but thats true. According to gursikhi everything beside naam simran is evil. Now thats the ideal case.

You can follow as much you can. if you want to dance and you can't control you can dance a bit

But no, i'm sorry i fail to believe that. Sikhisim is a very progressive and modern religion, there is no hocus pocus.

Let me put it this way....Guru Gobind Singh ji, if he thought plays, dramas etc ( analagous to television) were "evil" he would not have written nataks.

These "Gursikhs" you mention are driving Sikhisim back to the stoneage whilst it had developed as a modern and progressive religion. Life comes once, and i'm sure as hell that Guru sahib wants you to enjoy it...now that does not at all imply drink alchohol and cut your hair, it means that a Sikh is able to live in society without these preconceived notions of "higher then though". Which is exactly the path that forumers are travellilng down.

So dancing is evil, watching tv is evil, walking and enjoying it is evil...<banned word filter activated> are we suppose to whip our selves also...

You have nothing to pesh about, you did nothing wrong.

Goto Police tell your parents. You are in the most difficult period of time right now and need all the support. Call the closest crisis centre, you are not the only one.

if u know da details of the person den send a email to singhrowproductions@hotmail.com and tell them ur story dey will act on that person for you

if u know da details of the person den send a email to the police

They don't have respect for anyone. These shows that crack jokes about religions, should not be watched. By watching them you are literally saying it's okay for them to make fun of Jesus Christ and other religious people and institutions.

which country do you live in? Religion does not matter here in Canada, and is rather a fair target of comedy. And I don't have a problem witht hat.

Read the whole article and the comments and perhaps you might understand what the issue is really about. If Jay Leno called Sikhs Diaper Heads then that could easily be classed as hate speech and action taken against him. I have yet to see that video. The joke he told was on Romney and not on the Sikhs. It doesn't ridicule Sikhs, it just shows that Durbar Sahib was the most valuable place they could find to show how rich Romney is.

If you live in the West then you have to understand the concept of freedom of speech. Calling someone a diaper head is not protected by freedom of speech but the joke on Romney is. It's interesting that three Indian govt ministers and their offices have gone into overdrive to 'defend' the Sikhs against Leno's joke and yet they haven't lifted a finger on issues like 1984 genocide and the Dastar ban in French schools. People need to be aware of how the Indian govt and that arch traitor Manmohan Singh is playing the Sikhs. The plan is to give Americans the impression that Sikhs are against freedom of speech something which a majority of Americans are prepared to even take up arms to defend. Given this impression when a real issue comes to the fore such as 1984 or Bhai Davinderpal Singh Bhullar these same Indian ministers will be dismissing Sikhs as terrorists in the American media.

Could'nt agree more!

People are vastly over reacting, it was a joke, I saw no disrespect of Harminder Sahib. OMGZ he called it someonez homez..i gotta play COD!

Sad to see he is on unnatural products and trimming his kesh on his body, very disappointing. Body building shouldn't be all about aesthetics (should only be a + side point), it should mainly be for health and fitness.

I just started working out again, this is still a little inspiration nonetheless.

why are you assuming he's on "unnatural products"?

Bodybuilding is all about asthetics, search up the defintion.

I personally liked Agnostic view , because they claim that humans are not in a position to determine existence of god or to determine his nature . Sounds a bit like sikhism , to be honest .

Agnostic has to be a humble person , it seems , because an agnostic does not claim to have knowledge of the supernatural or that which is beyond human understanding . Guru Nanak dev ji also criticized those who claimed to know for certain .

I respect agnosticism, as I respect all other religions and trains of thoughts.

But to add to what you said, they also belive that god cannot be proven...so many not exist.

But in Sikhi, beleiving or not beleiving is not the answer, its faith in gurbani and practicing it not just reciting it.

Protein Shakes depend on the quantity of work out. I m not working out past few months but drinking shakes and now have a Big Tidh. I cant see my feet while standing. Dont have shakes unless you work out good.

False! Protein has no correlation to gaining fat, or getting a "big tidh".

Protein contains 4 calories per gram

Carbohydrates contain 4 calories per gram

Fat contains 9 calories per gram

Protein, is the first of these to be metabolized, then excess carbs are metabolized and fat is stored. Your calories are probably higher then your resting rate. You need to check the other parts of your diet, the protien is probably the best thing if your fat.

you actualy asked a question if its ok to do the right thing? and your lucky enough to get paid for it?

Arab Spring: Series of demonstrations in a continent.

Punjab is a province as it stands now which is not part of the Arab world.

It just won't happen, Punjabis and Sikhs are under-educated, if you think learning Sikhi is the type of education that is going to lead forward a revolution you are wrong. Guru Gobind Singh ji said it him self, whilst studying gurbani one must gain a worldly education. Unfortunatley, Sikhs don't carry that authority.

Sikhs are not educated like them Arabs.

Goto University, get degrees, learn, apply.

I dunno, I went to 2 lodhis this year, both were for girls....equality is showing its head, but the funny part was they were both "monah" couples.

freedom in india, everyone gets it.

You need some reading lessons. When you get them and become better at understanding what you reading, perhaps your understanding will improve.

What I have said is the shamelessness of monah who donot have the courage to follow the basic tenents of Sikhism today having the cheek to call

themselves a majority part of the Sikh panth.

When we were growing up, seeing a monah brought utter disgust in our minds. Being aware of our history, our sacrifices of our ancestors, we could

not comprehend how a Sikh could dare disrespect his kesh. The monahs did not go out proclaiming that they are the panth. They were just a part of

the larger hair cut comunity. And look at the affairs today. Because we were born in Sikh family, we can become monah and bacause we are so many

monahs , we are now the Sikh Panth. PATHETIC.

I'm nominating this as the most hankaari post of 2011

amazing

Liberalism and conservatism aside, I think the sister in question needs to have a long, hard look at herself. She seems to have joined the ranks of those females who place the wishes and desires of a man (a potential partner) before her own family and their feelings.

IF the family has given her nothing but love and understanding prior to this incident then she owes - out of common decency - to at least listen to their side of the argument. The fact that the guy openly dislikes her parents should cause alarm bells to ring. If the family are blameless, why would the girl want to associate with a man who dislikes them for no reason than they are not Hindu and therefore not worthy of respect?

Is a man really worth losing your family for? If, however, her family have been like some Panjabi families and considered their daughters to be second-class citizens then I'm not surprised she's confused.

Good subjective response to the issue at hand +1

we have been denied and have had so much baani hidden as well as some sau sakhis mixed that we need to start exploring our baanis again and all the knowledge we can attain

ofcourse, at the same time deciphering what was written by the guru sahiban and what is falsified.

The only reason I ask is because Maharaaj was very fond of nataks, used metaphors to explain life etc. So its important to realize, poetic writing especially 17th centuary poetic writing is not meant to be literal rather metaphorical.

Especially when we consider Sikhi stays away from mystics and magic.

@ kalyugi...... uhh when it comes to kalki its tricky,, guru ji is a magnificent poet whoes saar can never be known.... some say kalki has come...but there is direct info that kalki will come...let me explain..... ok this might be hard but there is a ''world teacher'' and a ''world'' king of our area in space(note i do not remember exactly) they are devte that Waheguru assigns.... in 2012 the age changes and the current ''world teacher'' and ''world king'' will give their crowns and seats to the next world king and teacher... this has been described as the 4 hourses of the ''apocolypse'' by some rishis........ in baani like in karni nama and mangal prakash i find it interesting that it says within kalyug satyug will come as we know within kalyug a satyug comes... in 2012 the mayans never said the world was going to end but it said there god which is the god of natural disasters will come back.... and we know what guru gobind singh ji said that when one age changes and the other starts kalki will come from the sky.......... ufo abductees have also been saying soon we and extra terestrials which would in some cases be devte will live amongsts us.... some know my views on sant ji and if you want to know wht i have found about them message me i wont post it here........................ china and russia attacking india is when you here guru gobind singh ji say kalki will attack china, go north pass manchuria and eventually make the king of the north (russia) fall........ this is the way that china can be taken out of india and sikhs get khalsa raj because india is destroyed and china has also been forced to defeat...............if kalki is to return than the only time he will return is either at this age change becomes satyug comes within kalyug once.... or when kalyug changes as a whole but iv heard about a difference climax and event to happen then

Could it perhaps just be baba ji's fondness of writing nataks? Just a question.

no i can bro, but what is the source? By that I mean which text?

lol i guess than guru gobind singh ji was lying to huh lol....chal koi naa some ppl dont see it happening, doesn't mean its not going to happen...good day everyone; wanted to give my side of info i have studied.........................

dude never said guru ji is lying at all. Where did maharaaj say it? I've just provided information that is of relevence through our socio-history.

first guru gobind singh ji says in baani about russian/chinese forces attacking india ..2nd russa and china are close allies... russia dont like US check this out http://news.yahoo.co...-191114619.html and India is close with US and is buying weapons from them and planes.... CHina dont like india at all and indian govt officials last year accused china of preparing for war at the border.... US is using india and china and Russia are a pact....... US has a base in Australia and china wants to take over all of the eastern sea for oil.... all the countries are preparing for war.... we will get khalsa raj as guru ji says

ਤਬੀ ਰੂਸ, ਚੀਨ ਹਿੰਦ ਮੇਂ ਚੜ੍ਹ ਆਵੈ ॥

ਘੋਰ ਯੁੱਧ ਮਚ ਕਰ,

ਸੱਤਰ ਕਰੋੜ ਸੇ,

ਸਤਾਰਾਂ ਕਰੋੜ ਬਚ ਜਾਵੈ ॥

ਦਿੱਲੀ ਤਖਤ ਪੈ ਬਜਿ ਜਾਵੈ ਗੁਰੂ ਕੀ ਫੌਜ ॥

ਤਬੇ ਸਭੇ ਅਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਪਾਨ ਕਰੇਂ ॥

ਤਾਬੇ ਚਲੇ ਜੋ ਪੰਥ ਕੇ,

ਜਮ ਕਾ ਬਾਣ ਨਾ ਖਾਵੈ ॥

ਨੰਗਾ ਭੁੱਖਾ ਮੰਗਤਾ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਜਾਵੈ,

ਲੰਗਰ ਸਭ ਵੋ ਖਾਵੈ ॥

ਤਬੀ ਕਲਜੁਗ ਮੇਂ ਸਤਿਯੁਗ ਹੋਸੀ ਆਨ ॥ ੧ ॥

a himalyan rishi had also said this 2)In 2013-14 India will be attacked by the combined forces of China, Russia and

Pakistan/Taliban.

Definatly could care less about what a rishi said.

China and Russia are NOT allies. Both perscribe to different political ideologies. Russia and India have a much larger trade ratio when compared to that of India-USA. India and China are mortal enemies yes.

China and the USSR Ties soured between the communist giants after the Sino-Soviet split in 1961. Political differences e.g. de-Stalinization between Mao Zedong and Nikita Khrushchev played a key role in the cooling of relations between the communist allies. At the peak of the conflict, both countries fought a brief border war in 1969 and increased troop deployments at important border regions. Partly due to the perceived threats posed by the Soviets, the Chinese communist leadership began to develop armed thermonuclear capability and diplomatic relations with United States, culminating with a 1972 Nixon visit to China. Tensions between the two communist giants began to ease after the death of Mao in 1975. However relations only improved markedly after the collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s.