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13Mirch

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  1. Hindu scriptures and the Koran are notorious for emphasizing fabrication. With the amount of right wing fundamentalism injected into India, Hindus are making some absurd claims.
  2. Akali Dal has betrayed the Panth since inception. The Sant was well aware of this fact.
  3. Why Sant Jarnail Singh Ji did not trust the pseudo-Sikhs of the Akali-Dal or the S.G.P.C https://tisarpanthdotcom.wordpress.com/2016/12/23/friends-and-foes/
  4. Is this site, Tisarpanth, right in saying this? https://m.facebook.com/Tisarpanth/photos/a.296605053810306.1073741828.296603627143782/857033257767480/?type=3&notif_t=like&notif_id=1480825807964917&ref=m_notif A https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=855210191283120&id=296603627143782
  5. Some exceptional excerpts from a rare interview with Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Manochahl (BTFK):- Q. Is there any hope of the militants joining Akali leaders? A. Frankly Akali Dal leaders are irrelevant and most of them want the militants to be exterminated. Those who speak for us, do it only out of for fear of the bullet. Q. But Simranjit Singh Mann has been speaking for the militants. A. Mann is mentally bankrupt and keeps contradicting himself, which could be due to his torture in jail. I have met him and I have been disappointed. His bankruptcy is indicated by the people in his group. One of them sells opium and another used to refer to Sant Bhindranwale as a Chambal dacoit and Congress(I) agent. Yet Mann claims to uphold the ideals of Sant Bhindranwale. He thinks no end of himself just because he spent four years in jail. Read more at: https://tisarpanthdotcom.wordpress.com/2016/11/05/from-the-killing-fields/
  6. Tisarpanth??? They focus on the more sociopolitical side of things though.
  7. Might as well add, 'get stoned at the same time; quite literally! '
  8. Most of those guys are on job search visas though. We can take only but a few of them.
  9. Anyone looking for a job in Auckland, New-Zealand? We are offering a 48 hour week (12 hours, 4 days); you will be required to load, stack, optimize and convey timber for a frame and truss company during this time. Physical fitness is a must and a knowledge of IT a bonus. This is a hands on job which requires concentration, dedication and a good work ethic. If interested please PM me and we can go from there. Competitive pay rates are part of the package and progress equals a pay rise. One Singh already works in the factory. More are required.
  10. Not everyone lives in a perfect world. Ground realities for each locus are different.
  11. Was the demand for recognizing Amritsar as a holy city indicative of Sikh secessionism? We think not. Even prior to Indian independence the British had recognized the city as such, and the Sikhs were only demanding a revival of this circumstance. The following article would be quoted in the January 1984 edition of 'The Sikh Review:' 'The sacred "Guru ki Nagri" the town of Guru Ramdass, may well rejoice today that the benign government has sanctioned the removal of all liquor shops to outside of the city walls of Amritsar.' -'The Tribune,' September 7, 1915.
  12. This is actually from Bhangu's Sri Gur Panth Prakash. He never says the Guru uttered it, he only provides it as a piece of personal advice.
  13. Gurughar used to get them work visas. Dr. Lal might know someone....
  14. I have a book at home written immediately after the Sant's shaheedi. It was written by a supreme court Judge in Singapore. He states that Atwal was the officer who had cleared the Sant of any wrong doing in the Mehta Chowk firing case.
  15. Right wing Hinduism does not help much. Caste retards any recognition of talent outside the apex castes; exceptions exist but are only a few. Smearing cow excrement on yourself only gets you so far.
  16. Forgive me. I haven't reached the heights which you so apparently have. From here on forthwith I bow to your decision. Care to note down my address or give me yours? I wish to book an examination appointment with you Baba Ji.
  17. From my understanding it is from Akali Bhai Mani Singh Ji Shahid's milieu. As it is an exegetical saroop it probably does include parables and allegories on the more salient Banis.
  18. Such exegetical saroops have always existed within the Panth. The B40 manuscript is one such example where Bhagat Bani has been demarcated from the Bani of the Gurus, Bhatts and Gursikhs to explain the history behind it. Baba Ji's Saroop is also one such Saroop. We cannot accept it as Gurbani, Per se, as it is exegetical but this should not be made into a reason to cast doubt over it. The presence of Sri Raagmala is enough to indicate that Purataan Sikhs actually accepted this Bani unlike the AKJ of today. I am posting a picture of a similar saroop as well; this one is a combined recension of both the Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Where the Raagmala concludes, the Sri Jaap Sahib commences. The need for such saroops, in the past, is quite self evident if one was to pursue Sikh history from unbiased sources i.e. devoid of the ramblings of white-clad "Babas." 'Now we have printing presses which produce Birs in hours, but historically Birs used to be prepared by hands. It would take years for such manuscripts to be made and only those Singhs acquired them who could prove that their regions were safe and sound. The last thing any Sikh would tolerate, then, was mistreatment of Maharaj. They had a spirit which is lacking in today's Khalsa.Now with not many Birs available, Baba Binod Singh Ji (1st Jathedar of Sri Budha-Dal) formed a new stratagem. Acting as the pontificate Jathedar of Sri Panth Khalsa he announced that for those Singhs who possessed the Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Sarabloh Guru Granth Sahib Ji, they could be venerated in the same way as the Ad Guru because they too were Gurbani. Secondly, if none of these three Granths were available then 5 Shastars, as stipulated by Guru Sahibaan, could be placed upon a thara or manji and paid obeisance to. Is this idolatry? No because Shastars, combined with Gurbani, instruct us in the conduct of a Siphai. The Khalsa is both Sant and Siphai. This has been since Sat-Yug and will be until the end of time. Just as the Khalsa pays obeisance to the Guru's Shastars at Nanded, so too did the Singhs when Sirhind finally fell to them in 1763 A.D. They constructed a Thara and atop it placed Shastars and in this way honored the younger Sahibzades and their martial spirit. The fact that Punjab was undergoing rapid military and political changes did not give them time to acquire a Bir. Due to one reason or another this situation lasted until the 1800s. Every time the Poojari Singhs requested a Bir from their patrons, they would be put on hold until they finally relinquished all hope of acquiring one. In 1844 A.D. the Maharajah of Patiala, Karam Singh, begin the construction of this present Gurudwara of Sri Fatehgarh Sahib. But it would be Narinder Singh, his son, who would finish the project. In agreement with the Nihungs and other sampradas it was decided that a Bir would be acquired once the Punjab had settled down under the British. But one thing led to another and no Bir graced the Gurughar. Finally the twenties arrived and with them the rumblings of dissent. Those who were present told me, in my youth, that members of the Akali Party soon arrived at the shrine and begin harassing the Singhs. "This is idolatry!" they proclaimed upon seeing the Shastars arranged in all their glory. Events took an ugly turn and soon the senior Singhs on both sides sat down to talk. 'Brothers,' began our Singhs, 'please just listen to us.' At this a few of the Akalis begin lobbying cries of 'Hindu,' 'Brahamane,' (of the loins of a Brahmin) at them but silence soon prevailed. 'This arrangement is a facsimile of Nanded,' our Singhs informed them. 'We desire a Bir but please provide us with one. We emulate Nanded in our conduct and will do so here. On one hand we will honor Shabad and on the other Shastars.' But the Akalis wanted none of this. They went to Bhupinder Singh, and through the agencies of Lt. Gen Gurdial Singh and Col. Raghbir Singh they took control of the Gurughar. The beloved Shastars, of our ancestors, were thrown out acrimoniously and our Singhs beaten and ejected for being in tow with the "Mahants." The Akalis rejoiced at having "liberated" the shrine. I ask you. What sort of a liberation was that? You bring the Guru here after breaking his sacred Rahit? That Rahit which was given to us at the Sri Akal-Takhat and Anandpur! Fie to such individuals who consider themselves as "Khalas" (pure) after committing such atrocious blasphemies! And afterwards this same SGPC would commission a book reiterating their canards. Read it and see.' - Interview with Doctor Swarup Singh Ji.
  19. Are there any good Shastar makers out there who produce high quality products, at a reasonable rate, and also deliver overseas? If so, please post their details here. Thank you very much.
  20. https://tisarpanthdotcom.wordpress.com/2016/07/17/of-bhindranwales-war/ 'The present day Sikh disillusionment with Indian politics, and their ever expanding anger in the Punjab, is a portent sign of events yet to manifest. Astute observers have often noted that the Punjab, in North India, has always been a hotbed of passion and political variation. Stretching back to the days of the initial Aryan Invasions, the residents of Punjab have often manifested a distinct and divergent course of action from that of their counterparts. (8) The Sikhs, a product of this turmoil, have only recently in the 80’s lead a deadly and crushing militancy which attempted to sunder the nation. The callous attitude adopted towards their demands, and the present day attempts to suppress their voice in the world’s largest democracy threatens to re-ignite the militancy of the 80’s and this time in a more volatile form. It would do well for the incumbent mandarins of the modern Indian state, and their regional cronies, to leaf through a few pages of Sikh history and understand that despite being oppressed the Sikhs can never be effaced. Those who have attempted to do so have been repaid back in their own coin. Whether Islamic rulers, representing the best spirit of their Prophet, or Hindu Caste Supremacists; all have fallen before the sword of the Khalsa and it’s current dormancy does not necessarily indicate it’s defeat.'
  21. It doesn't matter what it looks like you; obviously you have some sort of a prejudice against anti-S.G.P.C/Akali sentiments which clouds your perception whenever they are criticized. It is a penetration caused by a spear, what do you expect? Big bold words written on top saying "Jonny, this is a spear mark! Believe us!"
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