MrDoaba

Im sure Virgin Atlantic has other vegetarian options. Surely they must have a lacto-vegetarian or vegan option?? I even remember seeing an option for a Jain meal. It must be tailored for specific Hindu dietary requirements, a lot of Hindus dont eat onions and garlic and whatnot.

I don't know anything, which is why I trust Sant Jarnail Singh Khalsa Bhindranwale and the traditions set forth that one must symbolize the Panj Piyare in every way.

There is nothing contradictory to Gurmat in this. Waheguru has no gender and without our bodies, neither do we, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they are Panj Piyare.

Although at the same time there is no gender of Waheguru or our Aatma, there is also masculine and feminine traits. If people should ask such questions, they should do it with humility to accept that they are wrong and accept when someone else is right.

I used to think that it didn't matter, but I've come to think it does.

You can only have five Singhs represent the first 5 Singhs, not Kaurs. It's not a matter of inequality, it's just people creating problems for no reason.

In the time between my last post and this one ive been thinking about it and i think i get why only five Singhs can be Panj Piyare. Its about the keeping the essence of the first Amrit Sanchar and like you said the Panj Piyare must be symbolised in every way.

I hope i didnt come across as rude in my other post Veer Ji.

Some agree with it. I think bottom line is, if there is nothing wrong it it and someone is humble enough to want to take Amrit or be a part of such a sacred ceremony, they will respect that panj mard gave their heads to represent the Panj Piyare.

Again, there is nothing else at all that a Bibi can't do in terms of sewa.

I obviously dont know as much about this as you do but isnt it just circumstantial that the first Panj Piyare were male?? A woman is allowed to be a Granthi but the first Granthi wasnt a woman.

Thanks. Should it be double patti, like the patiala shahi that most Punjabis wear, or single?

Oh, and should the cloth be double patti or single?

Depends on how you want your pagh to look really. Double patti is oldskool, i dont think its as popular with the younger crowd.

Another cycle mechanic comes on camera after drinking half a bottle of desi daaru....

He's picked up the wrong colour scarf....so much for saffron terror! This video is just plain funny.....we should send it to the t.v show You've Been Framed! :giggle:

A Kenyan or African style pagh usually refers to the Ramgharia style pagh and Englandee is the modified version worn by everyone. The original Ramgharia style can still be quite big but are worn much higher and most are small either with hardly any point at all or an extreme point and it doesnt always cover the ears. You see some oldies wearing the really small pointy ones and it looks almost like a Brahmins topee.

Anyway for the Englandee 5-6 metres not meters but metres sounds about right. :smile2:

Let's say some terrorists (Jihadi or Saffron or never mind Khalistani terrorists), occupy/sieze Birla Mandir/Vaishno Devi Mandir/Jagannath Puri/BadriNath Mandir with thousands of innocent pilgrimages inside on the day of Navratre, will Indian Army attack Birla Mandir/Vaishno Devi Mandir/Jagannath Puri/BadriNath Mandir with tanks blowing away buildings of these temples, killing all innocent Hindu pilgrimages inside .

NO, IT WON'T.

Because, they consider these Hindu temples as their own, people inside these temples as their own. But reckon all minority places of worship (Gurudwaras/Mosques/Churches/Buddhist monastries etc.) as places of terrorism and all innocent people inside these buildings as hard-core terrorists.

That is actually a really simple but brilliant way to put it Veer Ji!

hmry dust sBY qum Gwvhu ]Awpu hwQ dY moih bcwvhu ]

hamarae dhusatt sabhai thum ghaavahu ||aap haathh dhai mohi bachaavahu ||

Destroy all my enemies. Give me Your Hand and save me.

I like my raag mala

:nono: lets keep this thread Jathebandi friendly shall we! :D

women doing amritsanchar is seriously against the khalsa maryada - now thats what you call quality control

Im not gonna debate this with you as people just cant agree but ive read some of your other comments regarding women in the past and some of them were ridiculous, God forbid you're ever on the Gurdwara committee.

the vast majority of us have never stayed with white american sikhs we are only being judgemental of them.....however women doing amrit sanchaar is a serious blashphemy of Sikh tenets

No wonder you're on quality control

What about Human Rights Watch, do you think we could get somewhere with them??

Do you know what makes me sad about these videos is that these guys are Punjabi Hindus not just some Phaiyas. I thought maybe Punjabiyat would mean something to them but obviously not.

Bloody hell those healed quickly but of course his injuries would heal so quickly....we're forgetting that Brar is a pehlwan......"I kicked and boxed and warded off the attack" :strong: or...or maybe the plasters he had were really good!

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Who is Rajoana to the world, who is Shaheed Bhai Jaspal Singh to the rest of the world?? The world doesnt care about a few people, to them they're just random people, its not enough to get their attention. We started to make enough noise and GOI realised the best option would be not to go ahead with the execution, why?? Because our cause would have got so much stronger. Many Sikhs believed that Bhai Rajoana Ji needed to become Shaheed, that he needed to give Shaheedi so that the Sikh qaum could awaken the world to their plight and to the truth.

We can only educate the world about the anti-Sikh pogroms now because we have more of a voice then we did back then but dont forget how well its all been covered up, its not easy.

If these attacks do happen we've got the capability to get the truth out there. We just have to go about it sensibly. Look at Syria, its all over the news, imagine if they had an overseas community like we do!

Oh and BBC de golee maar...theres other ways.

if these shiv sena bandars do begin attacking sikhs unprovoked...what options do sikhs of the west have ??

This rubbish obviously shows whos the terrorists and what their real agenda is, i mean they've given a deadline after which they said they're gonna attack innocent people.

Like you said earlier its best we stay on the legal route, it would be our job to inform the rest of the world about all this. If the Indian media is trying show Sikhs in the worst possible light to the whole of India and is saying we condone the so-called attempted murder of one individual who himself is responsible for the murder of thousands then we need to capitalise on any attacks on Sikhs and show the whole world all the lies, all the bakwaas of the GOI and what Sikhs are facing...we need to show them everything!

If these bandars really do decide to attack they wont be able to cover anything up now.

How was the show? I missed it and didn't set up the sky plus properly... Did Sangat TV allow Sarabjt Singh & guests to speak openly?

Yeah it was pretty good and i thought they allowed him to speak openly. Oh and there wasnt any guests. It went deeper then just Brar and his lies.

Did anyone catch the name of the book he was talking about....i couldnt understand what he was saying, i think he said it was by Davinder Singh??

I bloody well hope not but if they do that means they probably got the idea from this post! :ohno:

LOL, so you did see it coming! :D

Hahaha! Of course i did!!

I deliberately didnt post in this topic because i knew everyone was gonna start bashing eachother!!

Both non-Amritdharis and Amritdharis alike have work to do!

I make my own- Sachkhand Party Of Punjab..!!!!!!!! :run: :run:

SPP Zindabaad!! :khalsa2:

Im sure you're probably already aware of the problems with the forum but i thought id still let you know just incase

Im unable to edit any of my posts or use the full editior

Sometimes i cannot view Gurmukhi in topics

In the all the forums it doesnt show how many users are online

When im not signed in all the topics show as read

Hope this helps

/\ /\ which Jathebandi

Oh and just so you know im joking before im attacked!

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!!!! :strong:

I would but im not sure with Jathebandis amrit is better! :confused:

sorry but want proof about waheguru not brahm giani.and i am bit confident that you will unable to find one.it is written that waheguru is kind but it does not written that waheguru loves everyone.because if waheguru loves everyone then he will stop the happening of bad karams by a person before it happens so that ,the person could not get pain due to it.also if waheguru loves all and equally then everyone will be equal to him.even a saint and a nindak.as we know that the waheguru is the all powerfull.then if he loves us then he will also want us and he will also desire that we should be mukt as to be with him.as he can do anything he will then make us mukt in blink of an eye.

Is this janam of yours not proof enough that Waheguru loves you??

ਪਉੜੀ ॥

Pourree ||

ਹਰਿ ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਵਡ ਵਡੇ ਵਡੇ ਵਡ ਊਚੇ ਸਭ ਊਪਰਿ ਵਡੇ ਵਡੌਨਾ ॥

Har Thumh Vadd Vaddae Vaddae Vadd Oochae Sabh Oopar Vaddae Vaddaanaa ||

ਜੋ ਧਿਆਵਹਿ ਹਰਿ ਅਪਰੰਪਰੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਇ ਹਰੇ ਤੇ ਹੋਨਾ ॥

Jo Dhhiaavehi Har Aparanpar Har Har Har Dhhiaae Harae Thae Honaa ||

ਜੋ ਗਾਵਹਿ ਸੁਣਹਿ ਤੇਰਾ ਜਸੁ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਤਿਨ ਕਾਟੇ ਪਾਪ ਕਟੋਨਾ ॥

Jo Gaavehi Sunehi Thaeraa Jas Suaamee Thin Kaattae Paap Kattonaa ||

ਤੁਮ ਜੈਸੇ ਹਰਿ ਪੁਰਖ ਜਾਨੇ ਮਤਿ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਮੁਖਿ ਵਡ ਵਡ ਭਾਗ ਵਡੋਨਾ ॥

Thum Jaisae Har Purakh Jaanae Math Guramath Mukh Vadd Vadd Bhaag Vaddonaa ||

ਸਭਿ ਧਿਆਵਹੁ ਆਦਿ ਸਤੇ ਜੁਗਾਦਿ ਸਤੇ ਪਰਤਖਿ ਸਤੇ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਸਤੇ ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਦਾਸੁ ਦਸੋਨਾ ॥੫॥

Sabh Dhhiaavahu Aadh Sathae Jugaadh Sathae Parathakh Sathae Sadhaa Sadhaa Sathae Jan Naanak Dhaas Dhasonaa ||5||

Am i the only one who cant see the Gurmukhi font?? Its been hapening since the forum update.