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  1. can sum1 please explain to me how posting facts about a religion from there holy book is an insult? So anything said about sirsa leader is an insult? if sum1 is pushing jhoota sauda why can't we respond with cut or paste or repeat in order to extract an answer that people don't know how to answer? why isn'y there freedom of expression provided we don't say hatred towards innocent people? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br9cUP8A_Uo
  2. thats the thing chatanga veer. if we post quotes from the Quran that gets reported + peeps get blocked+banned by mods because posting quotes from the quran is deemed an insult. despite one billion plus muslims believing in whats posted similarly if jhoota sauda dude does a rape we can't say anything as that would be deemed as hatred or insult of sirsawala
  3. Should Sikhs be aloowed to post any facts about Sathya Sai Baba or Jhoota Sauda or Narkswami? Or should we just shut up because someone will call that an insult against their religion? By posting direct quotes from Sathya Sai Baba or Jhoot Sauda or Dera wale how does that insult them? It exposes them yes but just by posting quotes from them doesn't insult them, surely? It we exposes bad things done by founders of dera or religiions, is that an insult? Can mods highlight to sangat a single thing which they consider as an insult? People can't expose Devi worshippers doing Havans or Laxmi Puja. Those posts get trashed. People can't expose Jinnah for wanting all of Punjab's Gurdwara's in Pakistan. Those posts get trashed. People can't expose Dhunda and Ghagga as heretic atheists. Those posts get trashed. People can't expose Gurinder Dhillon and Radha Swami. Those posts get trashed. People can promote Mormonism but when a rebutttal from the Book Of Mormon, those posts get trashed. Tomorrow people say something against Indira Gandhi, i expect those posts will get blocked. After that it will become a crime to insult Suraj Mani or Tytler or Sajan Kumar. Then the goons who burnt up SGGS Ji in Sahnewal will become holy cows as criticising them will be deemed an insult. Then saying anything jhoota sauda, narkdhariwale, bahnariasaala or even Satya Sai Baba or David Koresh will be a crime? Laying bare the truth is not an insult or is it? Not a single thing was said against any innocent follower. Most know that followers aren't as bad as the rapists and pedophiles they follow. But by posting quotes from their own religions then that no way is that an insult. If the truth offends then there must be something wrong with the truth of the lifetime of the God-Man involved. I welcome any1 that hates Sikhi to posts any ang of SGGS Ji and then show that as an insult. Let anyone in this world show any link between the Guru's and slavery, rape, murder, pedophilia, wealth and empire. Is there a critical difference? The internet is about freedom of expression. Especially when based on facts
  4. mitt romney once said that dinosaurs were a Tv hoax by peeps who just wanted to diss the Abrahamic faiths (and the words of god, joseph smith, jesus, moses, muhammad + abraham couldn't all be totally wrong)
  5. Ok Mod Veer Ji, i suppose i get too hot headed when i feel that Sikhi is being challenged. Sorry But it would be cool to know what all the members think about dinosaurs and women's rights in different faiths
  6. Ok Auzer bro let's brush Islam's contradictions under the carpet + how about u teach us in this intellectual section a comparison of women's rights in Sikhi as compared to Islam? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-JaFagZ3xU Also bro inferiority complex refers to when peeps think they are inferior to sombody or something. I assure u that all those don't believe in circumcision and Muhammad-ism do not feel there belief systems are in any way inferior to Islam **MOD NOTE** PANTHER- If you want to debate Islamic practices, then merely make a thread and ask why does Islam do this or why do they do that. See how not many can reply to what you're saying? That's because you keep repeating yourself. I'm not saying what you're copy pasting isn't true, but at least be specific and objective. Make a new thread if you want to post it.
  7. It's true the human body was naturally created with hair and a foreskin. Those that believe Allah does not make stupid mistakes choose to keep their hair and foreskin as a sign of there submission to Allah. Those like Muhammad who were fashion conscious and had an ego decided to shave there upper lip as it was a fashion trend like the Muslim in the video Best answered by proactive above but should humans be allowed to eat other humans they kill because we have the biological ability to digest other humans which presumably Allah gave us. Anyways i thought Islam did not belive in Evolution or Dinosaurs and claimed that Adam was born around 6,000 years ago according to the ancestry of the Qureshi caste traced back to Adam via Ishmael that Muhammad accepted. Basically Muhammad and Islam believe in the Bible's theory of how humans appeared supposedly 6,000 years ago with Adam & Eve near Israel rather than where all the world's scientists say proactive clearly explained that no contradiction but in the meantime could u explain the contradictions listed below **MOD EDIT** Don't copy paste the various contradictions in Islam. If you want to, you can start a new topic and mention specifics. Copy pasting doesn't achieve a debate. Leave this out of the intellectual thread please. Thanks.
  8. Bro if u believe that zakkah tax and jizya were equal then pigs might fly and Muslims might be allowed to eat pork. Jizya was ten times higher than taxes paid by Muslims and thats why all the rich castes were actually the first to convert to Islam. Who needs Sufi's when discriminatory taxes and forced conversions did the main job of converting Punjabi Hindu's pretty effectively? Imagine if African Americans all paid 25% tax and WASPS paid 2.5%. Pretty soon every town+village would have hundreds of Michael Jacksons. And then they could claim they straightened there hair and had nose ops not due to racism but due to the influence of Sufi's
  9. Auzer bro, imagine if white America ethnically cleansed all of its African-American population off in the year 1947. And by 2012 only 0.01% of Americans were black. Would it matter how such a tiny minority lives + what they say? The tiny population of Sikhs still trapped as a powerless minority in Pakistan know better than to open there mouths as thats the only way they survived since 1947 by staying under the radar. The best way educated Punjabi Muslim brothers can help Sikhs is in the following way. Pakistan is the only glue that holds India together. The minute Pakistan becomes an independent Balochistan, independent Sindh, Pakhtunwa, literally Azad Kashmir and independent West Punjab ... then India will disintegrate overnight ... as people will see that there is no united Islamic threat called Pakistan any more ... just that all peoples only want freedom to self-rule and speak there own language. So long as Pakistan stays united and Urdu potentially one day destroys the Pashtun, Baloch, Sindhi, Kashmiri + Punjabi languages in Pakistan ... then that means India will try extra hard to stay as one central state due to the threat of Pakistan The ball is in your court Bro. Thanks for educating us how great Pakistan is and how much it has done for Sikhs since it launched its extermination program against Sikhs in 1947 .... but now your job should be to splinter Pakistan ... in order to help us Sikhs. As a disintegrated Pakistan comprised of smaller independent states will help bring Khalistan, independent Gujarat etc closer. Whether Khalistan should include western Punjab up to Sri Nankana Sahib + all our historical Gurdwara's etc is another topic i suppose
  10. Chatanga Veer, Nawaz Sharif wasn't Arain he is from a family of Kashmiri Brahmin converts. Just like Allama Iqbal was also from Brahmin family + was instrumental in creating the idea of Pakistan. Zia was Arain who called himself a peasant's son, compared to Bhutto who was Rajput that Zia hanged Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan wasn't Pathan but was from the Hazara caste. As the Pathans totally hate the hazara caste for there oriental features. Khan means King in the Mongolian language so all castes have adopted it as a surname in Pakistan. Pathans who are Aryans even adopted it. Plus all Punjabi Muslims as Khan sounded more royal than there Hindu surnames. There are Jatts called Khan, Rajputs called Khan, Gujjars called Khan etc, etc so it doesn't have anything to do with Pathan
  11. Cool bro my family are from Jalandhar too. I'm really sorry that due to Jinnah's demand for Pakistan your family had to migrate to Pakistan. Yeah General Zia was also from Jalandhar. Cool that u are actually from his same Arain caste. As you're Arain did your family by any chance migrate to Faisalabad? As my brother has an Arain friend whose family went there. People from the Arain caste are very good people i know that. I read in this book that by the 20th century over 95% of Arains had converted to Islam and only 2% were still Hindu and 3% had become Sikh as its a famous Punjabi farming caste that converted en masse to Islam during the time of Aurangzeb thanks to a famous convert soldier in Aurangzeb's imperial forces. The reason for the onion jokes is that the Arain caste were apparently the best caste in Punjab at growing vegetables. That's cool that your family converted so long ago in history and that oral history is still passed down the generations. These stories are sad
  12. But Jonny Veer if jhoota sauda wala or Satya Sai Baba or enemies of Waraich pind wale do something that is well documented then by pointing it out the truth it doesn't mean its an insult. Just because people reported how Waraich Gurdwara was smashed down its not insult against the founder of Swami religion. If we post from NarkSwami or Jhoota Sauda holy book and NarkSwami or Jhoota Sauda katha's its not an insult The Truth can never be considered an insult Veer
  13. Maaf karna mods and i will try to calm my hot nature
  14. Also Auzer can i ask when your family's history changed from Hinduism to Islam? In what century was it? And i take it that u are Rajput given your knowledge of war history? Where were your family from in the Indian side of Punjab? I want u to also sincerely know that no Sikh is ever proud of any innocent Muslim's death from 1947. Peace
  15. That's the thing Auzer bro. Sikhs believe in one God. Muslims believe in one God. We Sikhs look up to Guru Nanak Dev Ji, Guru Arjan Dev Ji, Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji and Guru Gobind Singh Ji to cite 4 examples of perfect truthful living spreading worship of 1 God, peace, brotherhood, opposing slavery and pushing gender equality. You Muslims look up to Prophet Muhammad, Caliph Abu Bakr, Caliph Umar and Caliph Ali as four examples to look up to and we all know these four great Muslims all owned + traded slaves as the Holy Quran permits Slavery within Islam. To us Sikhs Banda Singh Bahadur and Sardar Hari Singh Nalwa were great warriors for justice and equality in our eyes. To our Punjabi Muslim brothers Jahangir and Aurangzeb are great names that u revere and proudly name your children after. To each his own i suppose! Hence why Pakistan and Sikhs are on 2 sides of a border. Salaam bro
  16. Panther, Please don't reply to hate with hate. All further posts calling you what you find to be offensive will be deleted, but at the same time please try to remain at least slightly intelligent and carry yourself in a bit of a classy manner. A lot of people view these boards. Look at some of the posts in the few threads and see how they were able to make similar points you were making, but without insulting anyone. If you wanted to have a constructive debate, then do your own research and pose a question in the form of a question or a claim without adding needless ad-hominem attacks. You will find it will make your argument stronger and if the other individual can't properly answer them, then the 3rd person reading will automatically see who the right person is. I hope you understand Panther
  17. Well i don't blame u for trying to cover up Prophet Muhammad's age and Aisha's when the marriage was consummated. But u can't stop people googling the age of Aisha when her marriage with the Prophet was consummated can u? ROFLMAO. Pure comedy Auzer. I gotta hand it to u. Pure genius to tug at the heartstrings of the mods by claiming that some poor innocent Muslim young man who wants to turn to Sikhi might see quotes from the Quran and Hadiths and be so shocked by those Muslim sources that Panther somehow damages Sikhi by posting quotes from the Quran. Don't blame me Auzer Ji. Blame the author of the Quran. You know the great Arab Prophet himself.
  18. Haha now we're getting somewhere with u Auzer. So the reason for your little trip to sikhsangat was to do your little bit for the great Islamic Civilisation's takeover of the whole world LoL. U claim that there is no "shame of truth" but u are scared to debate quotes from the Quran! LoL Muslim Slavery and Islamic Sex Slavery Question: Does Islam condone slavery? Does Islamic teaching allow Muslim men to keep women as sex slaves? Answer: Islam neither ignores nor condemns slavery for the Holy Qur'an explicty upholds Slavery. In fact, a large part of the Muslim Sharia Law is dedicated to the practice of Slavery. Muslims are encouraged to live in the way of Prophet Muhammad, who was famously an active slave owner and slavetrader. He bravely captured multiple slaves in battle and reaped and raped the profits thereafter. He had sex with his slaves as the Holy Qur'an supports in its divine verses. And he instructed his believers, the Muslims, to do the same. The Holy Qur'an actually devotes more verses to making sure that Muslim men know they can keep women as sex slaves than it does to telling them to pray five times a day. The Qur'an: Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is one of several personal-sounding verses "from Allah" narrated by Muhammad - in this case allowing himself a virtually unlimited supply of sex partners. Others are restrained to four wives, but may also have sex with any number of slaves, as the following verse make clear: Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..." This verse permits the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Qur'an (70:29-30). Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Even sex with married slaves is permissible. Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them." Qur'an (24:32) - "And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..." Breeding slaves based on fitness. Qur'an (2:178) - "O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female." The message of this verse, which prescribes the rules of retaliation for murder, is that all humans are not created equal. The human value of a slave is less than that of a free person (and a woman's worth is also distinguished from that of a man's). Qur'an (16:75) - "Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means;) praise be to Allah." Yet another confirmation that the slave is is not equal to the master. In this case it is plain that the slave owes his status to Allah's will. (According to 16:71, the owner should be careful about insulting Allah by bestowing Allah's gifts on slaves - those whom the god of Islam has not favored). From the Hadith: Bukhari (80:753) - "The Prophet Muhammad said, 'The freed slave belongs to the people who have freed him.'" Bukhari (52:255) - The slave who accepts Islam and continues serving his Muslim master will receive a double reward in heaven. Bukhari (41.598) - Slaves are property. They cannot be freed if an owner has outstanding debt, but can be used to pay off the debt. Bukhari (62:137) - An account of women taken as slaves in battle by Prophet Muhammad's men after their husbands and fathers were killed. The woman were raped with Prophet Muhammad's approval. Bukhari (34:432) - Another account of females taken captive and raped with Prophet Muhammad's approval. In this case it is evident that the Muslims intend on selling the women after raping them because they are concerned about devaluing their price by impregnating them. Muhammad is asked about coitus interruptus. Bukhari (47.765) - A woman is rebuked by Prophet Muhammad for freeing a slave girl. The prophet tells her that she would have gotten a greater heavenly reward by giving her to a relative (as a slave). Bukhari (34:351) - Prophet Muhammad sells a slave (human being) for money. He was thus a slave trader. Bukhari (72:734) - Some contemporary Muslims in the West, where slavery is believed to be a horrible crime, are reluctant to believe that Prophet Muhammad owned slaves. This is just one of many places in the Hadith where a reference is made to a human being owned by Prophet Muhammad. In this case, the slave is of African descent. Muslim 3901 - Prophet Muhammad trades away two black slaves for one Muslim slave. Muslim 4112 - A man freed six slaves on the event of his death, but Prophet Muhammad reversed the emancipation and kept four in slavery to himself. He cast lots to determine which two to free. Bukhari (47:743) - Prophet Muhammad's own pulpit - from which he preached Islam - was built with slave labor on his command. Bukhari (59:637) - "The Prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, 'Don't you see this (i.e. Ali)?' When we reached the Prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, 'O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?' I said, 'Yes.' He said, 'Do you hate him, for he deserves more than that from the Khumlus.'" Prophet Muhammad approved of his men having sex with slaves, as this episode involving his son-in-law, Ali, clearly proves. This hadith refutes the modern apologists who pretend that slaves were really "wives," since Prophet Muhammad had forbidden Ali from marrying another woman as long as Fatima (his favorite daughter) was living. Abu Dawud (2150) - "The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Qur'an 4:24) 'And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.'" This is the background for verse 4:24 of the Qur'an. Not only does Allah grant permission for women to be captured and raped, but allows it to even be done in front of their husbands. (See also Muslim 3432) Abu Dawud 1814 - "...[Abu Bakr] He then began to beat [his slave] him while the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) was smiling and saying: Look at this man who is in the sacred state (putting on ihram), what is he doing?" The future first caliph of Islam is beating his slave for losing a camel while Prophet Muhammad looks on in apparent amusement. Ibn Ishaq (734) - A slave girl is given a "violent beating" by Ali in the presence of Prophet Muhammad, who does nothing about it. Ibn Ishaq (693) - "Then the apostle sent Sa-d b. Zayd al-Ansari, brother of Abdu'l-Ashal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons." Prophet Muhammad trades away women captured from the Banu Qurayza tribe to non-Muslim slave traders for property. (Their men had been executed after surrendering peacefully without a fight). Umdat al-Salik (Reliance of the Traveller) (o9.13) - According to Sharia, when a child or woman is taken captive by Muslims, they become slaves by the mere fact of their capture. A captured woman's previous marriage is immediately annulled.
  19. Wow i gotta hand it to u Auzer. U got cajones to push such lies that u are cleverly promoting on here. It's entertaining read them in a weird way. LoL but what's even funnier is that when i posted quotes from the Holy Quran u report me to mods in order to get my posts blocked. That shows u lost the whole argument right there. If you are so scared to debate undefendable parts of the Holy Quran then that means u already admitted defeat. Yeah under the threat of sword people accepted Islam. But its 2012 and Truth will be victorious as people examine the pure evil promoted within certain so-called holy books and by historical figures. Partition violence wasn't orchestrated? LoL get real dude. Btw i'm deeply sorry that your Taya Ji suffered along with 1 million other Sikh, Muslim + Hindu deaths as a result of Jinnah's desire for a kingdom to call his own. The Pakistani state was built upon the blood of Sikhs who were ethnically cleansed off the land. Like i said to u if 9/11 had killed 60 million Americans, the equivalent of what Pakistani state did to Sikhs in 1947 then do u seriously expect America to say the Taliban are there best buddies? If Jews are now 0.01% of the Germany population do u expect Jews to hear that Germany is the most pro-Jewish country on the planet? Of course not. Next we'll be hearing that Delhi is the most pro-Sikh city on earth because the Prime Minister is a Sikh and there are more Sikhs in delhi than in other non-Punjabi cities. The craziest suggestion from u above was where u expect Sikhs to be grateful to u Pakistani's that u didn't ethnically cleanse us out of East Punjab. Read about Jinnah's Direct Action Day that started the partition violence that sadly resulted in your Uncle's loss. For your info Jinnah wanted all of Punjab in Pakistan and bitterly complained that he was getting a moth-eaten Pakistan due to those rotten Sikhs. You have Jinnah, Prophet Muhammad and Islam to thank for your Uncle's suffering. One day you will realise that if you leave Islam. Oh i forgot leaving Islam would mean u get killed. And when u get a chance would u mind telling the mods that u are not afraid of debating parts of the Holy Quran and so Panther should be allowed to re-post them. After all the final message of Allah to mankind shouldn't be something we're scared of discussing should it just because it upholds slavery and discrimination against women, non-muslims etc in it Lastly, It was the muslims who were afraid of what that Zakaria dude had to say: http://www.jihadwatc...et-part-ii.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvIsai-KkDA
  20. Pakistan is so pro-Sikh that they kindly killed off 400,000 to 500,000 Sikhs in 1947 which was 20% of Sikhs living there killed. If any people was to do the same to Pakistani Muslims today it would be the equivalent of killing 40 million innocent Pakistani's People thought 9/11 was bad but imagine if 60 million Americans were killed in 2001. That's what Pakistan did to Sikhs. Do you think the Jews will all go to Germany and saywhat a wonderful pro-Jewish country that Germany is? Get real dude! In 1947 around 25% of the population of then West Pakistan was Sikh and Hindu. Now Sikhs are 0.01% of the population. Ethnic cleansing of Sikhs, rape of Sikh women, removal of Sikhs from there land was done by Pakistan as state strategy. Now that Sikhs in Pakistan are a powerless 0.01% minority u act all friendly to Sikhs in the hope that u can use Khalistan for drugs transit No matter how much Sikhs hate the government of India every Sikh knows that the Prime Minister of Pakistan will never be a Sikh and never will the head of the Paskistan Army be a Sikh. The head of the Indian Army is a Sikh. All your bs actually highlights the difference. The dude cleaning shoes, respect to him. But for every one like that are about a hundred sexual groomers that try to convert kaffirs to there religion. Everyone knows how many hundreds of Gurdwara's were destroyed in 1947. Ask any of the millions of Sikhs who were ethnically cleansed from Pakistan in 1947. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlq2JgdUaHU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxeuV1di8Iw&feature=related
  21. ^^Jonny Veer nowhere have I insulted Islam. I have merely exposed truths about Islam that over one billion Muslims accept. The Quran's support of slavery was written by Allah so how can posting quotes from Quran be an insult? By posting direct quotes from the Quran which support slavery, how does that insult Islam? It exposes Islam yes but just by posting quotes from The Holy Quran doesn't insult it. If the Muslim Hadiths that reveal the age of worldwide famous 6 year old child bride of Prophet Muhammad called Aisha are posted then that doesn't insult Islam. Or are you saying that one billion Muslims that accept Sahih Bukhari are insulting Islam? It only exposes a discrepancy in the founder of the called global martial civilisation. Can u highlight a single thing which u consider as an insult? It's the Muslim Hadith of Sahih Bukhari that states the Prophet was 54 and Aisha 9 when the marriage was consummated (not me). Is the Qazi in the youtube clip insulting his own faith Islam? People can't expose Devi worshippers doing Havans or Laxmi Puja. Those posts get blocked. People can't expose Jinnah for wanting all of Punjab's Gurdwara's in Pakistan. Those posts get blocked. People can't expose Dhunda and Ghagga as heretic atheists. Those posts get blocked. People can't expose Gurinder Dhillon and Radha Swami. Those posts get blocked. People can promote Mormonism but when a rebutttal is given from the Book Of Mormon itself, those posts get trashed. Tomorrow people say something against Indira Gandhi, i expect those posts will get blocked. After that it will become a crime to insult Suraj Mani or Tytler or Sajan Kumar. Then the goons who burnt up SGGS Ji in Sahnewal will become holy cows as criticising them will be deemed an insult. Then saying anything jhoota sauda, narkdhariwale, bahnariasaala or even Satya Sai Baba or David Koresh will be a crime? Laying bare the truth is not an insult Jonny veer. Not a single thing was said against any innocent Muslim. I know that there are 100 million Punjabi Muslims like Auzer. But by posting quotes from the Quran and there Holy Hadiths then that is in no way an insult. If the truth offends then there must be something wrong with the truth of the lifetime of the Prophet involved. I welcome any1 that hates Sikhi to posts any ang of SGGS Ji and then show that as an insult. I won't be insulted. Let anyone in this world show any link between the Guru's and slavery, rape, murder, pedophilia, wealth and empire. Jonny veer do u see the critical difference? The internet is about freedom of expression. Especially when based on facts.
  22. http://www.thehindu....icle3842674.ece Note that Jaspal was called Jaspal Ram before the agencies out to defame Sikhi got him to grow Kes like the Black Cats. But with Vikas Sehgal + Yadav the agencies got caught out because the local police caught them with there identity papers. Bhai Jagtar Singh had nothing to do with it so don't believe the report above totally as we all know Bhai Jagtar Singh only ever tried to save innocents. The terrorists murderers deliberately went to the same area where Bhai Jagtar Singh residence in order to falsely implicate him - which is why Bhai Jagtar Singh pleaded NOT GUILTY. By making him look like Batman cinema shooter these agencies want to make kutha Beanta look an innocent victim! True Khalsa will never kill innocent victims deliberately. Poohla was a Nang friend of Muhammad Izhar Alam "The four men apart from Hawara pleaded guilty of conspiracy to commit offences against the State, attempt to murder, and culpable homicide not amounting to murder under the Indian Penal Code."
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