Jai Tegang!

Some immediate steps our villages can take:

1. Stop purchasing gujjar milk

2. Pass village (panchayat) resolutions to prevent anyone from leasing/selling land to gujjars in the future

3. Terminate current leases with gujjars 

4. Offer to purchase back lands sold to gujjars

5. Push to get police raids done on their deras to rescue mentally challenged and trafficed people and FIRs on the culprits

6. Stop selling fodder to the ones who don't have land

Some long term plans:

1. Advocate to have land purchase laws similar to Himachal Pardesh to prevent non-punjabis from purchasing land in Punjab

2. Ban the gujjars from wild grazing. This is a huge problem as they take hundreds of their cattle and use public land to graze them on the roadsides. This also ends up damaging huge amounts of adjoining farmland crops. This public grazing also casues many many accidents and anyone that objects to them gets attacked by their whole kabeela.

17 hours ago, SikhKosh said:

Impressed by this mona brothers speech. Pretty clued up for a Punjabi from back home. Watch it at 1.5x speed though.

 

So glad to see a young brother clued up on not just the local sistuation but also on what starts in the UK and ends up in Lahore's hira mandi.

Also Waris Punjab De's Amritpal Singh Sandhu is a ray of hope for the youth.

These gujjars have spread all over punjab and wherever they can purcahse land to permantly settle, that essentially means there won't be sikhs there in 20 years. One of the two gujjars killed had taken his <banned word filter activated> out and threatened to rape the sarpanch's womenfolk was only 18 and had 4 kids already. I've seen their deras aswell. It looks like a nursery. Plus, these are no soft muslims. They are natorious for keeping loads of aasla (weapons, guns) and kidnapping mentally challenged to salve away at their deras. They traffic them within their network of deras to prevent any tracing.

This is [was?] the perfect time to drive out these milk spitters back into jammu and kashmir.

16 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

When the gianis and parcharaks of Punjab have spent most of my lifetime (of what I can recall) calling these devils, "Sadhe Musalmaan bhai" whilst sitting across from Guru Granth Sahib Ji - because these religious smooth-brains think they're sticking it to the Hindu political machine - the repeated enactment of this policy which was formulated at the very summit of modern Sikh religious institutions tends to convey a tolerance of Islam and its followers: more than tolerance in fact, a desire for a very close relationship.

In recent times, in this social media age, this pro-Islam directive that was disseminated on the stages of Sikh gurdwaras in India, has started to bear fruit in not just religious circles but cultural ones as well. But it's not bearing fruit for us; it's actually poison for our people. How it's bearing fruit is that we've signalled to Muslims that we're their subordinates. We've spent so much time and effort "presenting" ourselves (if there's any wildlife / nature enthusiasts reading, you'll know what I'm referring to) that Muslims have finally taken us up on our offer.

I made a post a few years about how that one careless Instagram post of a Sikh holding an umbrella over a praying Muslim is a monumental cultural error that will probably go down as a visual marker for (one of the many reasons) why we lost Punjab. I never mentioned it at that time because I assumed I was jumping the gun, but now it seems like an inevitability, and I wish I hadn't second-guessed myself: when they start "handling" our females in our own land, there's no turning back from that. That's as politely as I'm willing to put it. Because it won't all be rape and activities under duress. Some of it's going to be choice. I hope that will finally lead to some of us waking up. I don't think it will, though.

Our quom REACTS once the barn door is gaping open and the horse has bolted. We do not PLAN. The time to have started to tackle this issue was around the turn of the century; perhaps definitely around 2005 onward. Unfortunately, any reaction to this will come when our women are being gang-raped by Musleh in our own villages, and our village gurughars are being attacked. You know what these desert devils will say? "You were opening up your Gurdwarehs for us to pray when we never asked you to. Now these buildings belong to us because WE'RE COMMANDING you!" At that point, there's no use in getting gassed and booking an emergency flight to Amritsar and trying to do something. 25 years too late.

Never-mind, though, ey? "Caneda jaana"  to be a f****g Punjabi degenerate.

And I get stick for telling it how it is. I'm not going to stop, because your babeh and your mahapurash have failed you all.

 

Couldn't agree more! Our youth have been let down by these gatekeepers who have essentially turned us into sitting targets from every little <banned word filter activated> that so chooses to f with us. Missionaries, gujjars, rss. These are types we didn't even consider competition let alone a serious threat in the previous century. We were holding our own admist a clossal muslim majority for the majority of the Panth's existence, and it was no umbrella service that enabled that. 

 Deep Sidhu warned us of the approaching danger of Kejriwal and his gang. They have perfected their strategy to fool the masses and consolidate all power through back-door channels and the iron grip on the bureaucracy. They have a truck load of docile incompetent and <banned word filter activated> MLAs who they can quite easily control and herd around. Kejriwal even gave a public warning that he wouldn’t hesitate to remove an MLA found to be “corrupt”. From his history of throwing out all that dare raise their head, we know what “corrupt” means. Bhagwant Maan is the perfect yes-man out of all of the original AAP, hence he survived the purges and got placed as a stooge CM.

As much as Kejriwal likes to showcase his “common man party”, all the power rests with his highly educated and shrewd core group of upper caste hindus, who are anything but common. It serves them well to have a samosa seller or phone repairman chosen by the people as their MLA to give a false sense of triumph of the common man, but the real benefit rests with Kejriwal who gets a head that will never rise.

2 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

I am asking this genuinely: what cause did deep sidhu inspire the Sikh youth of Punjab to take up? As far as I can tell, the cause was protesting against the agriculture laws that Modi's government sought to enact. While I think that is a worthwhile cause, it is not Sikhi. Did he inspire the Sikh youth to move towards Sikhi in any way? If so, how?

I think you haven't followed these events closely and this might be part of the reason you're so bitter about Deep Sidhu. If you're interested I would recommend historian Ajmer Singh's channel, The Sikh Viewpoint, to get a better idea of what Deep was on about. His main thrust was that repealing farm laws should not be seen as the end goal, but a starting point for rallying Sikhs towards greater autonomy and eventual sovereignty. This was the reason  kisan unions, media,  and GOI were villifying and hounding him.

6 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

Why are you guys crying about things like this when you are ready to make panthic heroes out of "ex-Sikhs" like deep sidhu?

 

What a joke.

This bitterness doesn't help you or anyone around you. Deep Sidhu inspired the Sikh youth of Punjab, both kesadhari and non-kesadhari, in a way no one in my living memory has been able to. Give the man his due. Thanks in part to him, Simranjit Singh Maan's Party has increased their votes from a measly 50,000 to a healthy 400,000.

Deep's trajectory, before he passed away, was towards genuine Khalsa Saroop, not just the superficial adherence to the saroop many cling onto for social reasons. 

Have you not encountered any monays that have become singhs in your life? Most of us know someone who genuinely has bettered their life by slowly pacing themselves towards the khalsa life. These types bring great energy into the Panth.

10 minutes ago, proactive said:

The truth will come out, there is no doubt about that. The same state that murdered our youth in fake encounters will not think twice before murdering someone like Deep Sidhu who more than anyone has awaken our youth again. 

I know that when someone great such as him dies, we cannot accept that it happened randomly, after all accidents happen all the time in Punjab and people are killed BUT this 'accident' has all the hallmarks of a state assassination and poorly carried out one at that. Maybe the state did not have the time to perfect the assassination and his murder was planned hurriedly due to the effect he was having on the Punjab elections especially on the campaign of Simranjit Singh Mann. The Indian state's narrative has always been to belittle the Khalistan movement as a movement of a few NRIs abroad funded by the ISI and having no relevance in Punjab. BUT a victory for Simranjit Singh Mann, especially as his previous defeats have  always been presented as evidence that the Khalistan movement has no support from the people in Punjab would show that to be a lie. The Indian state could not allow that. Deep Sidhu's powerful oratory against AAP who I genuinely believe is the BJP's B team, the BJP know that no Sikh in Punjab will vote for them, so they are using AAP as a Trojan Horse to rule Punjab by proxy will have dented their chances to win a majority. Kejriwal's refusal to release Professor Davinderpal Singh Bhullar and his recent statement trying to scare the Punjab Hindus into voting for him by using the threat of a revival of Sikh militancy shows where his loyalty lies. Deep Singh was a threat to the Indian narrative on Khalistan and chance of the BJP's B team to rule Punjab. His video, asking Sikhs to choose between the Kirpan and Jharoo is so powerful, it will probably be the image of the Punjab elections of 2022. It as already become iconic. If AAP fail to get a majority, it will have been this speech that will have scuppered their dream of ruling Punjab. 

 

 

 

Great post!

Deep was the most effective person in denting the image of AAP for the Sikhs. Everyone had been hoodwinked by kejriwal, but this Son of Punjab stood up. The people calling him gadaar have joined up with BJP, while he chose the most neglected party by our kaum. I don't think any one has been mourned by the Panth in recent times the way Deep was. It reminds me of the stories of how the whole Punjab cried when Sukha and Jinda were hanged.

4 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

We keep going over this. 

How much are Panjabis over there doing to develop the economy and thus opportunities? 

 

There is great potential in Punjab for small business and small scale industry. Even in the pinds, the entrepreneurial minded have opened up small shops in the front portions of their homes, or have bought space at more bustling locations of the pind to open small shops. Small mechanics, kariana [general] stores, welding, electric, farm implements, cattle feed, dairy, fabrics/ tailors, sweets, just to name a few. I've seen people move up the social ladder working diligently and comfortably in their own pinds with dignity and actually surpass the more well-off landholders. And you know what, there is potential for more small business that people just don't want to tap into. 

One problem with the education system is that it doesn't align with the ground reality of the local economy. They don't motivate the students to be entrepreneurial and self reliant, to create businesses and build the economy from the ground up. They push through useless degrees that have little demand just to sustain their colleges. 

I observed in Punjab that people naturally get up quite early to take advantage of the cooler hours. By 10- 11 am it gets quite hot and the pind dwellers tend to head back home (if they even worked) and take a 3-4 hour siesta. They get back to their chores in the evening and have dinner by 6 and off to bed by 8 (this only applies to the pind, in the city they stay up late just like in the west). Now, if you have gone to bed by 8 and also had a long siesta during the day, then getting up at 3 – 4 am is no issue. Infact, you will awaken at those hours as your body and mind is more than well rested.

Try to create a lifestyle and schedule that allows you to be well rested for awakening at a time you can maintain. The starting point for your amritvela is your bedtime imho.

Jakhar was super annoyed with Sidhu and Channi for not tweeting on Indira Gandhi's death anniversary. I was appalled at how bold these congressis feel holding such a reverential attitude in Punjab for someone they clearly know we Sikhs will never forgive. The Congress can never disown IG, and for that very reason we should make Congress an unacceptable option for Sikhs in Punjab. For crying out loud, they have the gall to name the canal that steals most of our river waters after her. I just don't understand how Sikhs let this stuff slide. Condemn Indira, then we talk. This should be a bare minimum for Punjab at least.

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

^^^^^

Face it people. Right now, THIS is what we are known for by many.....balle balle

I was in India a few years back and was shocked at the mind-numbing absorption level of bhangra naach-tap, songs, movie by the youth. They have channels dedicated to songs on repeat all day and people have their tvs running like it's some kind of duty. Everywhere you go, crappy songs, crap lyrics, non-stop playing in the cars, on their phones, on tractors, in the shops, in drawing rooms. We were going on a Gurdwara tour and my hosts in the car who were relatives crank up the songs on the way...I was lost for words. The sad part is they feel this type of indulgence is what the world considers "modern". They have a very shallow understanding of what constitutes success, culture, values, art, music. 

12 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Amen bro. We're so blinded by our spirituality and empathy if we are not careful. We're their prime target, and people like us. I never could have wrapped my mind around it fast enough. Without at least one truthful reference point, which HG provides. Now the safe guards and protocols of Khalsa living are all jumping out at me. The advice is already in Gurbani, sometimes it just helps to get spoon fed. And it's preventing me from assuming everyone is good. It has me at least screening for that one in six and avoiding them and people even remotely like them, except those I must interact with. And if that isn't related to keeping Sangat I don't know what is. 

His videos really lifted the curtain from numerous narcs that have fueled off of me over the years. Kindness and generosity really does attract these savages to feast. No wonder Guru Maharaj said Give your Donations with discerning intellect and Help other Khalsas first! He knew the emapthy that bhagati creates can be abused by these types.

56 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

If you can even perceive this you've got some degree of cognitive 'prowess'. But what about hordes of simple minded apnay who don't even get the idea of being mentally colonised, or even how the imperial experience changed us so much to the point where we have some compromised 'Sikhism' that hordes think is the real deal.  

There is great intellectual named Ajmer Singh, an older fellow with communist roots but who later turned towards Gurmat, who really appeals to me in terms of his Punjabi language skills  and depth. He does what you do, but in relation to Indian state and communism. Some great content in awesome Punjabi. If our brothers back home start listening to him, they can start the mind-decolonizing.

3 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Well one in six, or 16.667%..is a narcicist. Society as a whole features a lot of narcissistic people and people with a normal amount of narcissistic traits. Everything about media culture is based on and increases narcissistic tendencies. 

If we actually hold ourselves and others to Rehit, and Gurmat, and identify narcissists, can we keep the Khalsa Paanth clean, and also decrease the number of babies being born to narcissists. By not breeding with them in their hunting grounds of dating, online especially, social media etc. 

Romance, love, as portrayed is their portrayal. Quick dating, jumping into bed, a whirlwhind of emotion is their hallmark for when you're being victimized at first..the golden period...

Those Tudor videos you posted in the other thread really help to understand these people. Everyone should watch those.

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

 

Thx for posting this. Truly door-andeshi soch. Santji could see, Guru-Kirpa naal,  the hazards facing our girls, and the Kaum in general of course. The importance of preserving our collective honour, the honour of our women from both external forces and the detrimental lifestyle choices we are/were making. 

I know people like to label all this naach-taap  as culture, but lets get real, it's anything but. Just look at the changes at our family events in conjunction to this stuff. Complete gandh. We've allowed it to dominate our image and it has been a major route of value-erosion. 

The classic example given to decide what is Truth is the example of the butcher that was chasing the cow. A tapasvi sadhu witnessed the direction the cow was heading and when asked about it by the butcher he falls in Dharam Sankat, dilemma. The truth would be to tell the butcher the direction the cow headed, but the result of it would be all but Dharam. So, the truth in that circumstance is to save the cow by not revealing it's direction.

Vishnu/Krishna is known to have used Chhall on multiple occasions in multiple avatars to uphold Dharm.

We have to use vivek, dicerning intellect, to find the path of Dharm when stuck in a sankat, dilemma. Nothing in life is clear cut. Upholding Dharam in the broader sense should be the guiding path. Sometimes you need to curve the finger to take out the butter.

Sun Tzu's Art of War says warfare is based on deception. Study any war. Look at guerilla warfare. Kharku Singhs taking out targets. Life is messy. War is messier.

Krishna's method is meant to be seen as a yudh-pentra, battle tactic. Krishna is praised in the very next pangti for his victory. Kritastar Singh was splitting heads left right center. He needed a take-down in the classic Cchhalia style.

Powerful adversaries require tactics to take out.

3 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Maybe these Bihari Hindus are aware of how Sikhs in Panjab mock Biharis in Panjab and treat them as second rate citizens ?

The Biharis get treated comparatively well in Punjab in comparison to rest of India. They are fed well and given their dues. The mockery is mild and not to the point of harassment, and not across the board. 

Indian Muslim leaders are actually quite envious of our success in having a full-fledged state in India. They have massive numbers (over 200 million) and the highest growth at 24 %/decade, yet they still can’t be more than vote banks with little to show for. They have Muslim Parties like Owaisi's, but  limited success.

We Sikhs are very strong spirited and require an equally strong leader to gain full loyalty, otherwise we remain fractured. Also, Punjab is not an overwhelming majority for us, so there has to be a more moderate approach if we want to win. There is also the issue of strategic voting in Punjab. Both Sikhs and Hindus practice it for different reasons. Dharmic Sikhs [used to] vote Akali to prevent Congress from winning. Hindus vote Congress to prevent Akalis, except in places where Hindus are a large majority like Pathankot, Hoshiarpur and Akalis used to vacate for BJP. The smaller fringe parties, like the Panthic ones, lose out as they don’t have the winnable factor, or any kind of robust leadership. New leadership needs to be nurtured and allowed to come to the forefront (like Congress does to an extent) instead of outdated leaders holding on till the end. For the Panthic parties, they need to have young, educated, capable people to lead. Who have a vision for prosperity, and not just pounding away at the old issues ad nauseum. 

Really passionate ex-Christian. His josh is overflowing. 

Need to prop up these boys to counter those that target our weaker brothers.

Just like the Jaat brothers that @shastarSingh highlights, we need to find and highlight ex-christians to turn the tide.