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yeah its sad things like this do happen................do things like this happen to men i.e. they cut their hair for women...........nevermind anyway...............this story is a bit old and has been circulating for a while BUT i dont really know if its all true or parts of it are or is it made up to make sikhs angry...............the problems like this is they are never verified so the story has no 'human face' to it if you know what I mean........................the problem is stories like this are covered up by the parents and they dont support their daughters when they want to come back you know..............i read a story like this that happened to a white girl and when she came back to her family her family cried and welcomed her back with open arms and they said it was like the story of the prodigal son returning they were happy to see their daughter the thing is this white girls parents didnt care what others thought of her because their daughter was BACK.................sikh/punjabi parents need to STOP blaming the girls and support them and go to the police.

im not sure if this is right so i apologise in advance:

He liked sikhism and wanted his followers to join sikhism but at that time he argued that sikhs were fighting amongst themselve, i.e. caste, sadly still even like today...............and he said those sikhs were being hypocrites and not practicising what they were preaching so he moved to Buddhism...............shame really :sady:

once again im not sure if what i said is right..................

yeah that is alot of money BUT atleast you will be able to look back one day when they are gone and say to yourself proudly that you helped your parents out WHEN THEY NEEDED YOU............think back how many times YOU have needed THEM............anyway what done is done now just learn from this and be careful about who you give your money to in the future :TH:

guns are available around the world....even in London for £60............but why are Americans so trigger happy?.............

VaahegurooJeeKaaKhaalsaa, VaahegurooJeeKeeFaateh!!

What they mean is gurbani should be read loud and recited with love. Great post!!

SO true

Im kind of curious to now.

maybe its just a personal thing with the music you know after all its her last dying wish.

I read this on another forum and thought wow, what do you guys think:

translated by Bhai Baljit Singh ji

Akali Kaur Singh Jee (a very close friend of Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Jee) whenever they visited Kashmir, they used to stay at the residence of BIBI BAGH KAUR JEE. Bibi Bhag Kaur Jee was a GURSIKH, that is why Akali Kaur Singh used to eat Parshada made by her hands. Bibi Bhag Kaur left a note (Vasayeet - Last wish) to her husband before her death and Gursikhi jeevan reflects from this Vasayeet and is very inspiring. I will try my best to translate it.

---------------------------------- MY VASAYEET -----------------------------

I request my relatives that after my death please follow GURUMAT VASAYEET as written below and if someone does not follow it, he/she will bring pain to my ATTAMA (Soul).

1. When i die, everyone should keep doing SIMRAN, PATH and KEERTAN. No one should CRY.

2. No food or tea should come from other homes; every thing should be prepared at home.

3. After giving bath to my body, please put on it the same clothes which i used to wear when i was alive. No new clothes should be brought in.

4. Put BLUE or KESRI KHADAR (non-expensive) sheet on my ARTHYEE (body). No expensive SHAWLS should be put on my body.

5. Don't decorate my ARTHYEE (CORPSE). No perfumes should be put. No flowers or Garlands should be put.

6. After SANSKAR (funeral is done), Ardas should be done in Gurughar and same day, home should be cleaned and SEHAJ Path should be conducted. PATH should be clearly done in high PITCH (volume). Whoever comes home should sit in GURU SAHIB jee room and listen to PATH and should also recite PATH. No one should sit in a separate place and talk about anything.

7. Guru Sahib jee daa Parkash should be done early in the morning, followed by NITNAME and in the evening SODAR-NITNAME should also be done. Kirtan should also be conducted in the evening followed by Kirtan Sohala path and SUKH-ASSAN of GURU Sahib.

8. After 10 days when Sehaj Path is completed an AKHAND Path should be done at Gurudwara sahib. After Akand Path Bogh, no lectures should happen under my name. My name should only be taken during Aradas and my picture should not be displayed at all, at any place.

9. After 10 days when Sehaj Path is completed, nothing (bedding, clothes, pots or money) should be donated, because the donation is only fruitful, when you have given it yourself, when you were alive. Donating under your name when you are dead serves no purpose.

10. After Akhand Path, there is nothing else to be done. There should be no celebration of 6 months or year death anniversary. This is all FICTICIOUS (ADAMBAR) and should not be done at all.

I am fully confident that my family will fully help in following these rules and help my soul.

Item#3: My body should have 5 Kakars.

well i dont think you should ask the money back from your dad after all he is your dad who has raised you.........i dont know if your married or not or have you got kids............try to maintain a good relationship with BOTH of your parents you will be better off in the long run :TH:

im just saying that today SOME sikhs ARE weak maybe in the past we didnt have this problem but TODAY we do..............

i think it is very good to see a Sikh in the english cricket team. but i just found that ravi bopara is also a Sikh. i thought he was a Hindu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravinder_Bopara

LOL :umm:

sikhi wasnt created for the weak...

laughing at your ownself ? :umm:

i DONT cut my hair nor am i weak!

i know its not a competition to see who converts whom but its a bit disheartening to hear these stories.

just out of curiosity does anyone convert to sikhism anymore? :sady:

then his just as bad as the non sikh guys who take advantage of sikh girls...............those muslim girls may not be our sisters but they are other peoples sisters.............you know what I mean mate.

jokes aside nobody should be treating anyone like cr@p no matter what their religion, every religion i suppose has it male/female hoes

a minority doesnt represent the majority...............

We all should be working on our sikhi first. Its easy to make posts here but the day we are strong in our rehits we might be able to inspire someone.

The problem is not just with sikh girls, its with everyone. I know of muslim girls going out with sikh guys, but the question here is, should these kids to be tagged as sikhs/muslims/hindus? They are no one, they are lost in this mayanagari. KALYUG

First our parents came here to make a good living, forgetting their moral responsibilities towards their children. Now things have gotten out of hands. Who is to blame? If a girl/guy doesn't want to learn about SIKHI we can't force them to shak amrit. can we?

I know of a muslim girl from my university who took off her hijab after her mothers death :sady: . Saying that muslims girls are religious isn't completely correct. i would say muslim girls are oppressed. Sikhi is against this kind of harassment.

Our society is a male dominated society, a male doing something wrong can get away with it. BUT if a girl doesn something wrong whole family is doomed. Is this the SIKHI we are talkin about.

Thats a different story paji. The difference is that these muslims boys are paid to do this convertion, were sikh boys do it as revege.

im sure they get paid loadss to convert a sikh girl.

so what we need to do now is stroll down to Barclays take out massive loans and start paying the sikh guys

Thats the solution sikh women need to run gurdwaras now so that young sikh girls can go to them for advise etc...................sikh guys can handle themselves...well i can lol.

we are our own worst enemies!

first: need to sort out gurdwaras, personally think that women need to run it more.

Second: need to reach out to youngsters..........make the gurdwara more open to youth. not just a place for elders to scorn everyone.

Third: nobody can destroy sikhi, in 1984 an whole indian army couldnt destroy our Guru Maharaj, their ancestors couldnt do it............what makes you think these people with half of thier d!cks cut off are gonna destroy it! NO CHANCE

Real Answer:

Its gonna take a very long time even a generation to sort out our problems i.e. to undo what the elders have done.............look at what they did the fathers who first came to England cut off their hair........from that moment onwards their sikhi died........only the young who know a thing or two about sikhi can save it.

i have a solid answer:

K!LL the people who target our brothers and sisters!!!!!!!!!!

like i said...........well men who do 'bad' things havent got a leg to stand on to argue BUT what about guys who dont smoke, drink etc how do you think it makes them feel........................plus of most these 'sikh' women spit in your face if you say anything to them so the solution is for sikh women to support other sikh women.

i guess we sikh women who dont drink sleep around feel the same when we are attached to this label the same as you guys...........take me for example.............i dress very unconventionally..............people may say shes fashionable or she luks like a <admin-profanity filter activated> but unless the know me, speak to me, im being simply judged on my looks and appearance..........witch in my eyes is wrong.........maybe appraoching she types of women is wrong but by showing our society as being tolerant and supportive maybe these girls would realise that "yeah there is a place i can go to speak to someone about it" rather than thinking im gonna be judged and persectuted..............maybe some of these girls are too frightened to deal witht the consequences of their actions bcos of fear of how they will be treated afterwards so they continue on this path of destruction............if we show we are willing to understand we can bring our women back off this path and get them on the straight and narrow.....

again this is just what i think but i know in reality this is much harder to achieve............. :umm:

I agree with you people can go off the rails and i know this may sound like a bit of a cliché but the only thing that will bring them back is their Guru............we may judge these people even sometimes unintentionally or even out of anger and we may even abandon them because of our own weakenesses but their Guru will never abandon them...........thats what they need to be taught but it shouldnt be used as excuse to do anything you want................just my humble opinion.

ive never called a sikh women a <admin-profanity filter activated>/ho/etc and i do agree that men do get away with more sometimes............

Sorry paajee i wasnt directing my comment specifically at you i just became distressed at some of the comment made by afew of the board members,

your comments are fair and just......me just expressing some of my views so plz forgive me if i have cause you any offence

JustME

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like i said...........well men who do 'bad' things havent got a leg to stand on to argue BUT what about guys who dont smoke, drink etc how do you think it makes them feel........................plus of most these 'sikh' women spit in your face if you say anything to them so the solution is for sikh women to support other sikh women.

ok...........well men who do 'bad' things havent got a leg to stand on BUT what about guys who dont smoke, drink etc how do you think it makes us feel........................plus of most these 'sikh' women spit in your face if you say anything to them

Sorry to be a bit blunt but im tired of hearing the same thing over and over again..................i accept its not only the women but also the men to BUT its always the women who end up leaving sikhi the most.....fair enough...........but then they come crying back when reality hits and ive never called a sikh women a sl*t/ho/b1tch and i do agree that men do get away with more sometimes............BUT the ultimate reponsibility lies with the parents to TEACH but they're usually depressed with their own problems. well thats what I think.