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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:
I wouldn't be particularly keen to see (for example) some hijaban women or a kid being abused or attacked in front in of me.
Yeah, sure, I can go with that. It's hard to see someone getting beat up right in front of you.
But that's not what we're talking about.
This about a Muslim applauding lapdop Sikhs for not saying "We're not Muslims".
Merely saying "Sikhs are not Muslims" does mean we're calling for Muslims to be beat up in the streets. It just means the Muslims have to make their own case and verbally defend their own actions or condemn those of the bombers in their ranks. We have no responsibility to talk about the "background causes" for 9/11 or whatever.
Given some of our history, I feel no desire to take the brunt of blowback for other people in their fights.
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2 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:
LOL i swear majority Sikhs stood with Muslims after
The problem is all Sikh organizations based in NY City, DC, or London which network with all the other organizations (such as the Muslims' CAIR, etc.). They start to think less that they are representatives of the Sikhs to the rest of the country than that they are representatives of the other whining groups (Muslims, gays, feminists) to the Sikhs.
They start to have more in common with those groups than with Sikhs.
And they forget why in the world they are a Sikh anyway.
Ahem, "Valerie" Kaur marrying a non-Sikh.
I mean, if there's nothing special about Sikhi that you would ensure that your children aren't Sikhs, then why can't all the other Sikhs become non-Sikhs and just solve the Sikh "problem" that way?
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On 7/28/2023 at 6:06 AM, ChardikalaUK said:
This is how apne are decorating their houses nowadays, ugly AF in my opinion,
Agreed. This is neither the American/Canadian mega-mansion with a half-acre lawn. Nor is a traditional English-style house.
It's the worst of all worlds!
No character whatsoever.
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On 7/28/2023 at 5:24 AM, ChardikalaUK said:
As you said, as soon as a few Indians move into an area then more flock there leading to white flight and then the Indians wanting to move again.
The gore should have thought of that either when they let us in to the UK or when they invaded our Raj. What does it mean to let people into a country but you can't stand it when they actually move next to you? Then don't let us in, in the first place. Or, even better, don't add us to your empire.
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On 7/28/2023 at 1:04 PM, ChardikalaUK said:
I suspect they are up to some wrongdoings. https://chiswickherald.co.uk/organised-crime-group-with-hounslow-ringleader-dismantled-p17812-95.htm
Bro, when the media says "people-smuggling" it doesn't necessarily mean brining over pubescent girls for sex brothels, like Muslims.
It may very well be nothing more than trying to get our people away from unsafe situations.
In fact, there was a truck or ship container that was full of Afghan Sikhs a decade or so back. If the media favors someone, they are called "refugees". If not, they are called trafficked.
If these Sikhs helped a few people out, what's the big deal? Angela Merkel (former German chancellor) invited a million Muslims to walk into Germany.
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1 minute ago, dallysingh101 said:
I think a lot of what you're saying is true. I think the whole tone of Panjabi is different to Hindi and Urdu. It IS more 'rough'. That's why apnay speaking hindi sound shockingly feminine to me.
But yes, theoretically Panjabi could be spoken in a refined way but many of us are rough ourselves.
Compare the speech of, say Maskeen ji, or other polished kathakars to the average Punjabi on the street. That's what I mean.
It's a matter of fully enunciating words, using fewer contractions, using elevated vocabulary, not swearing, and polished diction.
If you do that, most Punjabis will think you're not authentically Punjabi!
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On 6/23/2023 at 11:54 PM, Guest Guest said:
1. If we have done lavaan and parkash of GURU maharaj was there , is it justified to proceed towards seperation keeping in mind their intention of not revealing the problem beforehand.
Separation in the sense of her going to her parents house and just separating so that you can both think about things is not the same thing as divorce.
It's hard for me to answer your questions #2 and #3.
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On 7/19/2023 at 1:48 PM, dallysingh101 said:
I think back home they are just steadily regressing into their previous Panjabi tribal identities/state, which is dangerous because it means that we aren't evolving along Sikh cultural moorings.
I'll disagree with you to an extent. I think it's OK to have "previous Panjabi tribal identities/state" in the background as long as:
1) It's not egregiously anti-Sikh stuff (like killing girls or mundan of boys)
2) You don't denigrate the "previous Panjabi tribal identities/state" of other Sikhs.
If those two conditions are fulfilled, then the "previous Panjabi tribal identities/state" just exists as a cute little "interesting" thing about someone.
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18 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:
Then he started talking Hindi to me??? I was a bit confused first. Then he did it again, and I said to him: "I'm from malwa, you're from majha, why are you speaking hindi with me??" I don't know what he mumbled in response. Something like "I do both."
One of the stupidest things that some Punjabis think is that Hindi is a more "refined" language than Punjabi.
No, Hindi is not more refined. It's just that Punjabis themselves are not refined.
I do understand that there are variations in the "feel" of languages: say, French vs. German.
But there's barely a difference grammatically and syntactically Punjabi vs. Hindi.
The difference is just that people often speak in a more refined way in Hindi because they are speaking it in refined contexts: A nice showroom in the city. A government office. A reception desk in a skyscraper.
Punjabis could speak Punjabi in a refined manner, too. But they don't.
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2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:
What does that mean long term though, that we up and move whenever these f**kers start turning up? We might as well be nomads then.
Well, it's been going on a long time. I mean, they did "follow" into Punjab hundreds of years ago. Obviously we had something they wanted, that's why they came. Islam isn't indigenous to India.
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On 7/24/2023 at 1:49 PM, dallysingh101 said:
From the context, who do you speculate did it?
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On 7/9/2023 at 12:23 PM, californiasardar1 said:
Today's Punjabis speak a different language than my parents. They use different kinds of Punjabi/Hindi words for certain things than my parents did, and they constantly insert English words into Punjabi sentences
Could you give some examples of both? I am interested.
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On 7/17/2023 at 1:29 PM, ChardikalaUK said:
Southall is mostly a lawless place, people don't follow traffic rules at all and pedestrians are just as bad, just walking into the middle of roads while cars are driving, no one has any patience whatsoever.
So, basically, Pakistan/India with no Vitamin D?
On 7/17/2023 at 1:29 PM, ChardikalaUK said:. However the Afghan Sikhs are definitely involved, using their shops as fronts but they're not the violent type.
Let me ask you something, since you seem to have some knowledge of the situation.
How do the Afghan Sikhs act towards non-Afghan Sikhs?
Me personally, I'd avoid Muslims and their shops if I could. But what about Afghan Sikhs? Even if (some of them) are selling drugs, are they fine to interact with otherwise?
I.e., you just say Fateh and transact your business? Are they friendly enough? (I know they would probably only fully open up with other Afghan Sikhs in the same business, but still.)
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On 7/24/2023 at 6:57 AM, dallysingh101 said:
What about the comment that this is going to lead them into perpetual internal conflicts?
Yeah. Totally.
I mean, to the average lurker on this board, it usually just seems like "Oh, there's Dally complaining again about some random 'landlord' who dissed him 10 years ago."
And yet this excerpt from Panth Prakash vindicates a lot of what you have been saying: Sikhs have small minds. They would rather fight about the dividing line of their 5 acres of land and the neighbor's 5 acres rather than getting a few square miles elsewhere.
It also portrays the fact that the Sikhs are stupid and they don't do what Guru ji wants. And they refuse to accept the blessings Guru ji wants to bestow.
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On 7/5/2023 at 6:24 AM, dallysingh101 said:
To me it looks like this prophesy from Panth Parkash is coming true?
First of all the excerpt from Panth Prakash highlights the desire of Satguru for Sikhs to be strong and manly. Guru ji likes this.
Out of happiness at the Sikhs' physical exercises, Guru ji offers to grant them lands. But the Sikhs ignorantly insist on small holdings around their homes in Punjab instead of world that Guru ji is offering.
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On 7/19/2023 at 2:03 PM, dallysingh101 said:
Anyone into reading Gurmukhi to some extent have any comment on the translation?
The translation is good enough. The original has a great flow.
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On 7/21/2023 at 1:38 PM, Jai Tegang! said:
The radha-soami head baba has pivoted back towards sikhi
Really? Who's the current head and how has he pivoted?
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On 2/11/2023 at 10:08 AM, Guest Singh001 said:
Where can i get a wedding bana/chola with Kadaeh (Embroidery) around the edges/cuffs.?
Bro, you should decide whether you want to wear bana or an aichken.
An Achkan is a tailored jacket that goes to or just past the knees. It's considered formalwear for men in India.
Bana is the uniform of the Khalsa dal (army). It's a plain navy blue chola (tunic).
Because it's a uniform, there's no embroidery. The entire point is that you're a soldier ready to tangle as necessary.
There's nothing at all wrong with wearing an achkan. If you want to wear something dressy, wear an embroidered achkan.
Mixing and matching is like adding sugar to a dal/sabzi. It's like you want the cachet of a bana ("I'm a hardcore Khalsa warrior") and also want to show off.
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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:
Does this mean that Sikhi doesn't acknowledge the potential for some in-laws to be malevolent? Or parents being neglectful of their children?
Well, I mean, come on, bro, we read of the evil father everyday in Rehras:
ਹਰਣਾਖਸੁ ਦੁਸਟੁ ਹਰਿ ਮਾਰਿਆ ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦੁ ਤਰਾਇਆ ॥
haranākhas dusat har māriā prahalād tarāiā .
The Lord killed wicked Harnakhsh and saved Prehlad.Harnakash was a demonic father and Prehlad, his son, was a devout worshipper.
But the fact that Gurbani has both this verse and also those regarding parental respect:
ਕਾਹੇ ਪੂਤ ਝਗਰਤ ਹਉ ਸੰਗਿ ਬਾਪ ॥
kāhē pūt jhagarat hau sang bāp .
Why, O son, quarrel thou with thy father?ਜਿਨ ਕੇ ਜਣੇ ਬਡੀਰੇ ਤੁਮ ਹਉ ਤਿਨ ਸਿਉ ਝਗਰਤ ਪਾਪ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
jin kē janē badīrē tum hau tin siu jhagarat pāp .1. rahāu .
It is a sin to quarrel with him who begot thee and brought thee up. p1200means to me that we're encouraged to respect parents as a default, but don't do what they say if they speak against worshipping God.
I think what they Bhai Gurdas ji Vaar is saying is that son and bride are supposed to follow parents (in-laws) as a default. I know there are "bad" in-laws, but if it's just a case of two parties both wanting the "upper hand", then the bride is in the wrong. She's supposed to live with and follow the in-laws (unless they are actually demonic).
It would be highly rare for in-laws to be just picking fights for the sheer pleasure of it.
Anyways, that's what the texts say.
I know there are problematic situations, but the West has totally destroyed itself making the exception the rule.
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On 9/19/2019 at 2:23 PM, puzzled said:
it's no secret brothers fall out with each other all the time because their wives keep filling their ears. Funny how brothers get on really well before marriage but then after marriage it all changes.
Bhai Gurdas ji says this regarding wives picking fights with father and mothers in-law, but the same kind of thing could apply to brothers-in-law.
ਨੁੰਹੁ ਨਿਤ ਮੰਤ ਕੁਮੰਤ ਦੇਇ ਮਾਂ ਪਿਓ ਛਡਿ ਵਡੇ ਹਤਿਆਰੇ।
The bride then started continuously advising the husband to desert his parents instigating that they had been tyrants.
ਵਖ ਹੋਵੈ ਪੁਤੁ ਰੰਨਿ ਲੈ ਮਾਂ ਪਿਉ ਦੇ ਉਪਕਾਰੁ ਵਿਸਾਰੇ।
Forgetting the benefactions of parents, the son alongwith his wife got separated from them.
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On 9/19/2019 at 2:31 PM, puzzled said:
A man's downfall is when he becomes a slaves to his senses that's when a man becomes weak he loses his dharma.
Guru ji says this, but we refuse to listen. Instead, we listen to Western feminists who have destroyed their own societies:
ਜੋਰਾ ਦਾ ਆਖਿਆ ਪੁਰਖ ਕਮਾਵਦੇ ਸੇ ਅਪਵਿਤ ਅਮੇਧ ਖਲਾ ॥The men, who act as women tell them, are impure filthy and foolish.
ਕਾਮਿ ਵਿਆਪੇ ਕੁਸੁਧ ਨਰ ਸੇ ਜੋਰਾ ਪੁਛਿ ਚਲਾ ॥
The impure men are engrossed in lust. They consult women and walk accordingly. p304On 9/19/2019 at 2:31 PM, puzzled said:Men should also keep secrets to themselves sharing feelings and what's deep inside is also what weakens a man.
It says that in the Rehitnamas: Don't tell the ਅੰਦਰਲਾ ਭੇਦ (internal secret) to ਇਸਤਰੀ (woman).
But some of our Sikhs cope with that by saying that that just refers to female spies that were sent to get information from Sikh warriors.
It saying plainly to keep some things secret from women and yet we still do not want to obey.
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12 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:
Just a 'coincidence' ?
He seems fairly young to have died of natural causes. What was the cause of death?
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On 5/31/2023 at 8:50 AM, Guest Guest 001 said:
Was the 2nd bhai gurdas, who wrote the 41st pada of bhai gurdas kiaa vaaraa, a hindu spy, who wanted to bring bhekhi into sikhi? Please answer in detail, and please tell me about the history behind it please
No, bro!
The 2nd Bhai Gurdas was not a Hindu spy for the simple reason that he was a Sikh!
He did not go around adding his vaar to all of the handwritten copies of Bhai Gurdas ji's 40 vaars. How would he even do that? Most of the handwritten copies wouldn't have had additional blank pages for him to write the 41st vaar.
What happened is that other Sikhs, later on, appended the 41st vaar because it's written in the style of the 40 vaars, it provides additional information about the post Khanda-Amrit Khalsa, and Bhai Gurdas II was sanctioned by Guru Gobind Singh ji.
Bhai Gurdas II was actually Bhai Gurdas Singh, who was a poet at the court of Guru Gobind Singh ji. That's why Sikhs respect him.
Read "ਬਵੰਜਾ ਰਤਨ" by Sikh scholar Piara Singh Padam for information about the poets of Guru ji's court.
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On 6/4/2023 at 12:33 AM, Guest
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If everything is prewritten, what’s the purpose of prayer that asks for things from god. Are we suppose to do such prayers or just stay in guru’s hukam, because i think gurbani preaches both which is contradictory.
You're right. But also wrong.
You're not at the PhD level of Sikhi. You're not at the level of Bhai Gurdas ji or Baba Buddha ji.
You're at the kindergarten level.
At this level, Sikhs are given a simple Rehit: Wake up early, do simran, do Nitnem, and avoid patit actions. And keep reciting and listening to Gurbani.
The rest of the understanding will be granted by God.
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Debating the Dasam Granth by Robin Rinehart
in GURBANI | SAKHIAN | HISTORY
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Could you make the download available again?
Secondly, I personally object to this professor lady or any other non-Sikh butting into our business. "Debating the Dasam Granth" sounds like an Orientalist study of tribals fighting each other. Like, "Pointed Battle: Towards an Understanding of Why Hutus and Tutsis Hate Each Other".
I don't want any white women (or men) studying us like lab specimens.
I rather have it out with a missionary Sikh than have outsiders stick their noses in.