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  1. can you do me a favour, and ask Harjinder to start doing kirtan in their proper raags and to help restore Raag vidiya to the Sikhs.

    If he can tell him, Guru Ji will give his grace to him,If he cant tell him, this will be his last tour of the UK that you organise.

    Harjinder?? is that how you address a kirtania of the Gurus Darbar? ....... Bhai Hajinder Singh Jee, He already has Guru jis grace. he lives a very Gurmukh life and are an example of a Gursikh, they are also well versed in Raag. You talk about Raag vidiya? first focus on your jeevan, then when you actually learn something talk about raag vidiya. I hope you will realise that you will never ever be able to stop Kirtania from doing Kirtan in Guru Jis Darbar. Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji is the one who is in control, always has been and always will be not you. The countless number of people who connect to Guruji across the world , all those who have took amrit listening to bhai harjinder singh doing Kirtan, all those who have been inspired to walk on Gurus path and here you go giving threats ?

    And having said that, no one can ever eliminate Raag either. Gurbani is in Raag, it will always be part of us, and will always be practiced. Kirtania will sing what the sangat requests, so lets educate the sikhs about Raag first. Lets request the jatha to start bringing back kirtan in Raag , its a guarantee that they will not refuse this request...

  2. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

    Dear Colleagues,

    Re: Attendance to demonstration about injust decision to hang Bhai Balwant Singh Rajoana on 31st March 2012. 9.amin Central Jail, Patiala

    Reminder: We urge everyone to do their utmost in joining the demonstration tomorrow (20th March 2012) outside of the offices of Indian High Commission London between 12.00-2.00pm to highlight the injustices and the opposition to the death penalty.

    Also: If you have not already done so we request that you urgently print 200-300 copies (or more if required) of the attached letter and get members of the local Sangat to sign asap. Please get members of the Sangat to add their name, address and postcode and sign the letter.

    All completed letters to be collected and addressed to relevant MPs and/or MEP’s according to individual’s postcode by visiting:http://www.writetothem.com/, and add the MPs and/or MEP’s name use the following link:http://www.europarl....=GB&webTermId=7,

    These letters high light the differential treatment the Sikhs receive and create a pressure from the international community for Sikhs to have justice. As a reminder we are re-attaching them once again to this e-mail.

    The letters must be grouped in one envelope, with the relevant MP and/or MEP address on top and send to:

    House of Commons


    SW1A 0AA

    Note: The MP/MEP will be obliged to respond to each letter. This can only be done with your help as it is essential we have a very high volume of letters sent to MPs and MEP’s as soon as possible.

    Further Important Note: A peaceful protest will take place outside of the European Parliament in Brussels on Wednesday 28 March between 1-3pm. Please make travel arrangements for this protest.

    Kind Regards

    Gurmel Singh-Secretary General

    Sikh Council UK

    Just got the above email.................but no mention anywhere...........was it publicised on any of the channels?

  3. dont worry, just keep doin as much simran and bani as you can.................... the phase your in regarding not wanting to talk to anyone that will pass and change a number of times over the years, its absolutley no problem........you dnt need to go out looking for friends or ppl to socialise with or talk to, or boys to talk to or anything, just do what you sed your doing and make time to sit in the sangat and sing kirtan

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  4. nno one should be going around door to door collecting money, if they are genuine, then send them to your local gurdwara who can then decide to appeal on their behalf.

    9 times out of 10 these ppl are cons. all i can suggest is, keep a base ball bat behind your door ..... if you dont do anything then they might end up pushing ther way into a little old ladys home, or your sisters, or your daughter.... wake up singhs!

  5. We keep going about this and i think we should let it be - it was bad what happend we all agree , but we sometimes sound like kal'e that keep going on about the slave days ..

    Lets all move on it not nice to hold grudges .. love and peace people love and peace ........:feelingfree:

    ok, it seems like you have good intentions but you dont have a clue mate. i dont think we should ever....EVER! forget 1984. first of all justice has not been done, the organisers of the mass murders and rapes of innocents are still walking free. Every human right organisation would agree that until justice isnt done then we cannot move on, until laws dont change, until governments dont provide sikhs the rights, we cannot just forget. Regardles of that, go ask those who lived to see their families get murdered and their mums and sisters raped by groups 5, 10,15 animals and then left for dead!!!there brothers and fathers burnt alive for just being sikh. There was so many innocent people who died, and here you are telling us to forget it? you should ask Guru for forgiveness, we aren't hating or expecting singhs to go and be violent and hate hindus etc, but that doesnt mean we forget!

    Never forget 84 ....................NEVER forget any of the Shaheeds. Sikhi is built on shaheedi, we will remember every single martyr forever. Our Gurus gave shaheedi, akal takht gave shaheedi, the Gurus sikhs, the sahibzade , we must always tell our youngsters of our history and our struggle so that they never ever forget. We must remember death, we must remember that situations can change at anytime, we must remember to be tyaar bar tyaar all the time.

    Always remember the shaheeds of our panth......

  6. Yes Culcuta Music House is reputable and alot of people buy from them, unfortunately they will still rip you off. They may not rip you off as badly as other places if thats any help.

    You either need a raagi jatha singh or some one who plays kirtan to go with you thats the only advice, once i had to bribe a kirtania singh and I said I would buy him any vaja he wanted, n when we went to the shop he got a good deal and a good vaja, then I said give me two please :D.....

    but take someone with you otherwise you will be conned no matter how sweet, innocent, young and old the person looks!! it doesnt matter, you just cant trust em..., even if you take someone local they wont know about the type of vajas.... this may sound harsh but its just the way it is.

    you may be better buying of a jatha who is visiting abroad from india, even if you pay em a little extra at least you know your getting a vaja which is really good, because jathay use good vajay. get in touch i mite be able to help.

  7. looks like a holy women, many women from pinds in punjab wear a range of colours and their clothes also cover their body maybe you dont see that in the west as much, in fact I have seen many very spiritual women who are sikhs who would look like that

    ok teekya they aren't wearing a dastar but the picture makes me think of a motherly figure, royal and majestic and yea like a singhni

    there is so much you can take from that, one could be all those bibiyan who sacrificed their children for sikhi

    rather than fight on here we should do one chaupai.....(including myself)

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  8. Vjkk vjkf

    please forgive me, I am going to give a general reply.... please dont take offence, I am your younger brother...

    my advice would be for you to take amrit. We have been given this human life after to many life forms. Maharaj says, heerai jaisa janam hai, kaudi badlai jaaee. This precious life is like a priceless jewel, but it is being lost in exchange for a mere shell.

    baajh guru dubbha jag saara - without the guru the whole world is drowning.

    Dhan Guru Granth Sahib ji says

    bin gur outt n hor ko , sachee outt n kadhae binaasee - there is no shelter without the Guru, the gurus refuge is never destroyed.

    If you do paath then thats good and indicated you have faith in Guruji. Its good you don't drink and eat meat..try to work on your relationship with Maharaj. Start treating Maharaj as hazar nazar, he is here and always with us.

    Life isnt just about getting married. If you want to make something of coming to earth you need to start following the hukam of the Guru.

    Guru jis hukam is to take amrit. Taking amrit means giving your head, it means living in rehat - in a disciplined life.

    You have to give your head to the guru - Maharaj says Phela maran kabool, jevaan ki chaad aas - first accept death, and give up any hope of life!!! then Maharaj says - ho sabna kee raenkaa, tho aaoo hamarai paas - become the dust of the feet of all!! and then you may come to me. Read over and over these words of the Guru, Maharaj is talking to YOU!

    So go before the panj piyare and beg at their feet, and beg that they bless you with amrit di daat. If they think you are worthy they will give you amrit. Then you develop your relationship with Maharaj.

    amrit gur parsadee paaeai - with the Gurus Grace, they receive this amrit.

    Maharaj even tells us ...

    sur nar mun jan amrit khojde, so amrit gur thae paaia - the angels and sages seach for the ambrosial nectar; this amrit is obtained only from the Guru

    We are very lucky as this amrit is only obtained in this human life. the angels , the devi devte are begging for Amrit! this is one thing you were born to have, but you have been given free will to make the choice, you can beg for this amrit or you can suffer for countless more lives in the cycle of reincarnation and suffer in the law of karma....

    paaeaa amrit gur kirpaa keeni, sachaa man vasaaiaa - this amrit is obtained when the Gurus grants his grace he enshrines the true Lord within the mind.

    Out of the billions of people on this world, you have been shown this path..... Maharaj says ..

    amrit ka ras virlai paaeeai satigur mael milaaeai - only a few obtain the sublime essence of amrit, they are united with the true guru.

    But sometimes we have so many questions, so many doubts, we think we cant do it....... why? Maharaj knows this and says....

    sang manohar amrit hai rae bhool bhool bikha khaaee!!!!!

    Dhan Guru Arjan dev ji says the enticing Amrit is with you! but YOU ARE DELUDED! , so deluded that you eat the poison.

    meaning you dont realise the meaning of sikhi, you are falling prey to the poisons of the world, the five evils, they hide the true path from you, not letting you make the choice. You have to over come this, that is something which has to come from you...

    If you give your head to Maharaj and take amrit, you belong to the Guru, the Guru resolves all your affairs, the guru is responsible for everything, the Guru will guide you, he will hold you hand and save you from the deepest hells. The Guru is the one who will bring you happiness and peace and contentment. The Guru will show you your destiny written on your forehead, he is the one who will give you a wife, a job , and everything else but you need to make the sacrifice this is the difference between karma which the world lives in , and dharma which the gursikh lives in.

    Make your choice.

    Lets look at what Gurbani says

    Gur raakhae sae oubaree hor muthee dhandai thag - those protected by the Guru are saved; all others are cheated and plundered by deceitful wordly affairs.

    try to understand this is not me making things up, this is written in Gurbani, the Shabad Guru - the Word of God, this is the creator telling us!

    kott jathanaa kar rehae, Gur bin thariou na koe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Guru sahib tells us, trying millions of things , people have grown weary , but without the Guru , none have been saved.

    I would like you to read the following very carefully.

    eiknaa no har laabh dhaee jo gurmath theevae - the Lord bestows His profits on those who become Gurmukh.

    Think are you a gurmukh? have you taken that step?

    in the next line .....

    thin jamkaal na viapee jin sach amrit peevae - the messenger of death does not touch those who drink the ambrosial nectar.!!

    how amazing, how powerful!! then Dhan Dhan Dhan Guru sahib says!! ...

    Oue aap shuttae paravaar sio thin pishai sabh jagath shutteevai -

    they themselves are saved, along with there family and all those who follow them are saved as well.

    If you take this step then I think you will experience the change in your life. You will see how much love Maharaj has for you, how much he cares about every little thing in your life, create the same love for Guru ji, for God.

    But be quick before it is too late, you must act now as Guru ji says to us.........

    aoudh ghattai dhinas rainarae , man gur mil kaaj savarai!

    This life is diminishing day and night! Meeting with the Guru , your affairs shall be resolved!!

    Even if you didn't remember the Lord for 27 tears dont worry, if you have true love for God now then the Lord will have mercy on you........Maharaj says..

    mihar karai jis miharavaan thaa karaj avaii raas - showing his mercy , the Merciful master shall resolve you affairs!

    Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji says to us;

    Keetaa loreeai kam so har pehi aakheeai - whatever work you wish to acomplish - tell it to the Lord

    Kaaraj deh savar sathigur sach sakheeai - he will resolve your affairs , the True Guru Gives his guarantee of truth!!!!!!

    What more do you need! Please my brother, if you don't want to read this, at least think of those who have walked on this path. Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh ji himself took Amrit from the 5 Piyare! ,Singhs like Baba Deep Singh Ji! the Sahibzade! Bhai Mani Singh, Bhai Taru Singh! I dont even know where to start! all the Sants, Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh, Sant Kartar Singh Ji, Sant Jarnail Singh Ji, Sant Baba Nand Singh Ji, Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji! so many more ..............

    gharee mukath ke chalanaa dhil samajh thoon bhi pehchu - in a moment or two we shall depart, O my heart understand that you must go aswell!

    sometimes we dont realise how precious time is, every moment that passes is lost, our time is getting nearer, my friend told me once THE ONLY THING THATS GUARANTEED IS DEATH. But we take it for granted.

    Dont lose this chance!

    I will leave you with this shabad, it is what changed my life , read it over and over. The Gurus sangat is always here to help you, and support you. Guru ji will help you on your journey, if you think you will find things hard, dont worry, help will come to you, anything is possible. You need to make a decision whether you are loyal to the Guru or not.... Please read below...

    har saachae thakhath rachaaeiaa sath sa(n)gath maelaa a

    The Lord God established the True congregation of the holy as his celestial throne.

    naanak nirabho nira(n)kaar vich sidhhaa(n) khaelaa a

    Guru Nanak illuminated the Yogi Sidhs with the true form of the Fearless and Formless One.

    gur simar manaaee kaalakaa kha(n)ddae kee vaelaa aa

    In His Tenth Form, the Guru entreated the Shakti, the Integrity by bequeathing the nectar through the double edged sword.

    peevahu paahul kha(n)ddaedhhaar hoe janam suhaelaa aa

    Drink the Amrit nectar of double edged Khanda sword, accomplish the worth of your birth.

    gur sa(n)gath keenee khhaalasaa manamukhee dhuhaelaa aa

    While the egocentric remains in duality, the Khalsa - the pure ones, enjoy the association of the Guru;

    vaah vaah gobi(n)dh si(n)gh aapae gur chaelaa || 1 ||

    Hail, hail (Guru) Gobind Singh; He, Himself, is the Master and Disciple too.

    I apologise for any mistakes, forgive me

  9. It is a matter of concern for all right thinking sikhs.It is not something that relates to those who have raised question

    about his role in attending World sikh convention arranged by anti panthic elements.

    We all should be asking him about this. Singhs asked him this question in A Gurudwara sahib in Brampton , Canada earlier

    this year.Baba Hari singh randhawewale was also present.Baljit Singh daduwal had no answer.

    It is very straightforward issue. Did he go there or not? We all know now that he did go.It is for him to come out with an explanation rather than someone probing him for this act.Those who claim to be preaching for panth should act in the interests of panth.Integrity of a gursikh is of paramount importance.

    GPS from reading this thread, all i see is you doing nindiya and you silly attempt to deface someone. have a break and do something positive with your life

    i think the sangat shud ignore the gps guy


    Baba Baljit Singh is doing good parchar, cant wait to go to a divaan

  10. I want to ask that if a person doing Akhand Paath says some words to some other person nearby like "call that aunty ji " in a low voice , does it invalidates ( bhanng ) the Akhand paath ?

    I did so because I was wanting an aunty ji to continue with Akhand paath as I wanted to go urgently for something else.

    So , I called my mum ( by waving my hand in air ) and told her to call the aunty to carry on with akhand paath . I felt so stupid because I said something else while doing Akhand paath .

    I am feeling so stupid now .... sad.gif ,

    bhul chuk maaf ji

    veer ji no matter what happens, when you are with Guru ji and doing Akhand Paath seva then nothing should matter.

    Nothing is no longer urgent. The time spent doing this seva is more important than anything else in the world.

    If you can help it then don't stop reading, or engage in any conversation.

    I know some gianis keep a bell to get the attention of others when they need to leave. im not sure what the marayada is, but I have been taught that when your doing seva, nothing matters, even if you have to do 1,2,3.....extra hours, this extra time is a blessing and will take your kamai a long way

  11. We cant say that Maharaj is coming to come back , he didnt go any where

    Maharaj is always here, he takes form of a human and takes form of anything or nothing. he is ang sang, in the future he will be here as much as he is now

    and he is here now as much as he has been in the past.

    whatever form Maharaj takes, he is still everywhere, and if he takes human form it does not guarantee his darshan.

    i think it is only if we live in the Rehit will we be blessed with Guru jis darshan

    but the comment, will he be back in human form is not really possible to be discussed, as Maharaj hasnt gone anywhere , he is no more or no less here as he has or ever will be......

    its just out understanding.

    if we come into the rehit and live the true jeevan then maybe we will be blessed with darshan in Human form as refered to in the shabad

  12. normally the rally is the first sunday after june 4th?, i think we should stick to that every year.

    so veerji says that due to some reason it is not possible this year due to an event on the 5th? are you 100% sure its not possible? can anything be done to make it possible?

    However I trust that you will have done what you can regarding this and if you've went ahead and printed posters well i guess its too late too change this date. whether or not that was the right thing to do....

    so if its not in our hands, then let the rally be on the 13th june, that is the sensible decision. How about on the 6th june the gurdwaras across the UK can do their own thing, but the 13th June EVERYONE could go to london. like i mean lets get all the sangat involved and get every Gurdwara to represent themselves at this event.

    maybe it is wise for all the organisations and jathaibandis to over look their differences and come together in the name of the Shaheeds of the Panth, and in the name of Guru Gobind Singh jis Khalsa Panth and represent a step towards ekta.

    By coming together for this event, i dont mean you have to give in on your views, by all means you have a right to your views, but for this one time tell all the sangat that are with you to attend this event.

    if all these groups and their 'leaders' can come together for once, then the Panth can have hope, end of the day you do represent sikhs in one way or another no matter how small, how big, how powerful (or how useless in some cases - no offence)

    But we can use this event to make a big impact on the future, if we turn up to the event as One Panth, the world will recognise us, it will help give us voice in the UK, it makes us powerful.

    There is never an opportunity for the Panth to get together in this country, but this is the sort of event where you get attendance from sangat from all over the UK each year, but there is potential to make it even bigger and better.

    This is a great opportunity if our leaders can just think about the Panth. It doesnt matter if one group has went ahead without your consent to organise this event, or if one group is going to take the credit. Maharaj knows all the seva everyone does, and im sure Maharaj will be very happy to see us get together......

    The Future Generations really need us to take this step, lets think of them.

    A benti to all those who attend. Put your differences aside, dont wind up other groups, and equally dont get wound up by others. Theres a lesson for us all to learn, we can all take something from this.

  13. like veers have implied, the purpose isn't numeric, obviously the more the better

    why not try doing one mala properly, with full attention and focus....... if your mind wonders try again.......... keep trying........ do it for the 40 minutes or however long, but dont worry about how many times you do it

  14. one chardikala singh told me a story about the development of committees , ill share it with you,

    he said that committees were created in the Gurdwara to gain charitable status allowing access to benefits or services associated with registering as a charity. The intention of sikhs wasnt that these committees would run the gurdwara but allow for the benefits attached to having a charitable status.

    however very quickly it became obvious how easy it was to set up the whole committee thing and before you know it every gurdwara had a committee and the 'panj piyare' became part of the committee, in some places they even replaced the panj piyare and in some cases the panj piyare were nominated by the fact they wore a gatra and not by jeevan..... now its embedded into sikhs that this is the way to run things.

    The true way i think is to have 5 rehitvaan gursikhs, who make decisions for the gurughar and the involvement of the sangat, and obviously most importantly the decision of maharaj by taking a hukamnama.

    one gurdwara without a committee is south shields, Khalsa Mero Roop Hai Khaas, its run by sevadars and any person who goes there will see the difference from any other place in the world

  15. how come sikh channel have not had them on yet?? unless i missed it?

    haha i was wondering when someone would ask that, nah you didnt miss it cos they werent on it, but lets no go there.....

    Chardikala jatha are an inspiration, the programs have been amazing, the sangat have loved the kirtan, im sure video recordings will be up soon too

  16. We have/had alot in common!

    Guru di kirpa naal, from the sant and mahapurakh i have had the blessings to talk to, they have told me that regardless of our situation, never delay a step in sikhi.

    my understanding from them has been that..

    you should take amrit now!!! :D :D

    there are going to be many amrit sanchars in the uk over the next week. Infact theres some singhs from north east are going to a amrit sanchar next sunday, do you want to speak to someone or discuss anything let me know and i will give you a contact.

    regarding the work you do, do ardas everyday to Maharaj that he bless you with sachi kirat. go to gurdwara, ask the gianis to do it. Make sure you go to the gurdwara and spend time in the sangat and meditate, take your family too.

    you will find a way out from your current work. it might seem impossible, but there are many ways to earn a living, selling alcohol and meat etc is only adding karam and is against the principle of sikhi, the older generations were not into sikhi and had no problem with it, but the fact you are taking this step shows that Maharaj is with you and blessing you, and welcoming you into his darbar.

    purpose of life is not to make money, and certainly not add to your karam. we can here to love Vaheguru and jaap his naam, instead we get atttached to this world. it is a test for you.

    sometimes it takes time for family to change and understand, but Maharaj works miracles, there is no doubt, nothing is impossible.

    you are right, you need to marry an amritdhari bibi, and your 33, so lets not wait any longer lol

    if you want to go to india to learn about sikhi, obviously the family wont be happy. you will know what the right choice is, whether you want to move there or not. but one thing you can do is, go for 6-8 weeks (or longer) every year, even if you need to get extra staff to help run you business.

    dont live in guilt, you were born into your family for a reason, Guru ji has blessed you to save your family and probably generations to come. by doing seva and having a sikhi jeevan your destiny changes, what was written on your forehead will change, and with the Grace of Guru ji you will be blessed onto the path of Khalsa.

    human life is precious, lets not waste it away.

    ਜਉ ਤਉ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਖੇਲਣ ਕਾ ਚਾਉ ॥

    jo tho praem khaelan kaa chaao ||

    If you desire to play this game of love with Me,

    2 Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek Guru Nanak Dev

    ਸਿਰੁ ਧਰਿ ਤਲੀ ਗਲੀ ਮੇਰੀ ਆਉ ॥

    sir dhhar thalee galee maeree aao ||

    then step onto My Path with your head in hand.

    2 Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek Guru Nanak Dev

    ਇਤੁ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਪੈਰੁ ਧਰੀਜੈ ॥

    eith maarag pair dhhareejai ||

    When you place your feet on this Path,

    3 Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek Guru Nanak Dev

    ਸਿਰੁ ਦੀਜੈ ਕਾਣਿ ਨ ਕੀਜੈ ॥੨੦॥

    sir dheejai kaan n keejai ||20||

    give Me your head, and do not pay any attention to public opinion. ||20||

    3 Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek Guru Nanak Dev



    Parwinder Singh, I will be in the UK (London) from 6th April - 14th April and I would like to come to the Rainsabhaee. Let me know how which busses/trains I should take to come to Newcastle.

    Thank you in advance.

    Vjkk Vjkf Penji

    how are you?!

    hope you enjoy your time in the UK

    If there is any arrangements by sangat from London then ill let you know.

    There are coaches from Victoria station to Newcastle, but i think it takes around 9 hours :(

    The trains run from Kings Cross to Newcastle in only 3 and a half hours, tickets can be expensive tho

    No one in the south likes coming to newcastle, cos we are so far away :(

  18. I think it is pure ignorance to make conclusions on what people say and make opinions on such matters.

    this thread has been discussed many times before

    everyone has a right to their 'opinion', but i think we are not in a position to judge, look at your own jeevan, many probably do more paap with their eyes and mind alone, do you not know the punishment of slandering?

    everyone knows about the picture, and the allegations, so its not like we need to keep bringing it up.

    Haven't people got anything better to do, why not inspire people towards Maharaj, why do we always like to highlight and get a kick out of the bad things in the panth, if you want to make it a principle of informing the sangat of everyone who meets a bad person or highlight what someone is 'accussed' of , then Sikhsangat will need a massive server.............

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