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3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I see what you mean. Since they're so available. But it doesn't drone. Which at least the harmonium can..ish..

you don't need the drone so much , at worst you can buy an electronic tuner which can play that note.

10 hours ago, Sikhi4Ever said:

Sangat should know punjabi/gurmukhi. Not granthis/kathakars learning english.

beause sikhi is in the world and our Guru ji is Jagat Guru our parchaariks and Granthis should be able to explain to seekers of truth in that country's language or at least in English which is the most widely known . That's also why homegrown parchaariks are important.

If you read Dasmesh Pita ji's writings it is clear that he is not impressed by the actions or lack of preachings of Mohammed . At a point he mentions that the way it is practised it is the faith of shaitaans

On 2/26/2021 at 1:11 PM, Guest Aman Singh said:

I just wanted to make my first post here because this has been playing on my mind for a while now. I feel like Sikhi Kirtan does not have the same passion I hear from other religious musical pieces, and as a result its not inspiring young people. I feel like the popular Kirtans are easy, dull, follows Bollywood/punjabi tunes and therefore lacks originality/identity/spiritualism. I have been listening to Islamic sufi music, Christian hymns and Hindu Kirtans - which I find all sound different and beautiful in their own way. With Sufi music drawing me in the most - even Bollywood adaptations like 'Kun Faya Kun' sound beautiful.  

With young people, I don't expect Kirtan to modernise, it doesn't need to. Indian Classical Music is and will always remain timeless, if played with passion, dedication and training, then you can draw in anyone no matter where you live. This is why Ravi Shankar and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan broke internal barriers. 

Unfortunately most of the kirtan tunes these days sound like outdated Indian/punjabi pop music

It doesn't help that only Sikhs can play kirtans in many Gurdwaras around the world. Collaboration inspires creativity - isn't that was sikhism was about? Openness to all?

Here is a kirtan I think is nicely composed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHJtedXR5v4  

sometimes I listen to Tanti Saaz kirtan and I feel like did we ever hear true kirtan in our youth?

just a jugalbandi but still so rich :

asa di vaar:

22 hours ago, Guest London jwaan said:

Can you refrain from trying to make a point by quoting idiotic, unsubstantiated claims?

 This is the kind of conspiracy crap that has been circulated about 5G causing coronavirus and bill gates injecting microchips into people with the vaccine.

 Your wild, uncontrolled Googling only serves to demonstrate your lack of rational thought.

waheguru ji ka Khalsa, waheguru ji ki fated

it is not just the opinion of one academic but many plus many environmentalits in Africa, India and anywhere else these schemes have been rolled out sorry you haven't got the ability to follow the money and understand the greed and meglomania of such individuals as Gates, Ambani, Adani, Rothschilds , Rockefellers, Schwab, Soros etc etc it's a few people who want ALL the SAY , OVER land, water food and raw resources

The rothschilds played both sides of the world wars to make mucha mucha dinheiro morals have nothing to do with it , its just business to them

1 minute ago, Kau89r8 said:

This is where i got it from but idk what video unless its edited.

 

seems you misread the quote slightly she is reiterating that to equate us to terrorist wont be tolerated , [terrorism being the government's speciality action] she also distances us from the comrades and liberal agendas as sikhi is different in aim (deg teg fateh)

15 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

Saw a tweet someone mentioned there is a video of her calling Khalistanis terrorists? 

Is this true? 

I've seen her say that they call us khalistani terrorists but we are not ...need to be careful as the IT cells are good  at instigating pangey between our people by pretending to be one of us .

1 minute ago, Ranjeet01 said:

I always wondered at what age does the crusty old Singh period begin?

Is it in the 50's or 60's.

I reckon that there are middle aged people who complain about crusty Uncles when they are of the same age group.

 

yes I am in my fifties but I have thinking like this in my thirties but the grip of these corrupt people was stronger in my then times .

2 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Crusty old Singh uncles hogging the reins of power and the limelight (while getting nothing done), while the kind of person who actually gets noticed (rightly or wrongly) has to make their own way to bring attention to certain issues. Our leadership is pathetic. Absolute jokes.

it's criminal how the crusties are sidelining the youth who actually will have to deal with the outcome of their actions , The most shameful thing was the total abdication of responsibility for the welfare of farmers who got kidnapped and women that got kidnapped by police and tortured in stations and jails. I think the phrase 'ussi youth da teke nahin leha , ohna di rehaie da .'

and she's given a  speech too:

addiction is the symptom of extreme loneliness and disconnect... self-hatred rears its head and the person annihilates themselves through the weapon of choice , they are starved of connection, understanding and love . Your cousins really had the dregs as mothers I would have kicked out the Mums and kept the daughters because at least they had a chance of becoming worthwhile humans.

I would suggest that listening or reading Dr Vandana Shiva's work on environmental issues in India and food /water security is a must for sikhs as it cuts straight to the heart of what is detroying Punjab's fertility and health not to mention future .
https://climateandcapitalism.com/2011/06/08/vandana-shiva-the-great-land-grab-indias-war-on-farmers/

https://williambowles.info/2021/02/05/bill-gates-and-neo-feudalism-a-closer-look-at-farmer-bill/

important point for Indians
'Gates funds Diversity Seek (DivSeek), a global project he launched in 2015 to map the genomes and genome sequences of the peasant seed stocks held in seed banks. DivSeek and Gates Ag One are the tips of his spears, “mining” seed data to “censor” out the commons. In other words — to terminate the public’s ownership claims.'

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Gates’ principal objective is to breed Green Revolution varieties engineered to respond to chemical inputs produced by Gates’ “Poison Cartel” partners: Monsanto, Bayer, Dow/DuPont, CropLife, BASF, Syngenta, Corteva, etc. In short, Gates deliberately robs the seed of its integrity and diversity, erasing evolutionary history and its links to the soil, reducing it all to a simple “code.” In this way, Gates captures our planet’s genetic diversity, rewrites it, patents its code, steals the seeds from humanity and marries them off to the chemical conglomerates.

By centralizing the Seed Banks and manipulating intellectual property laws, Gates has launched a campaign of “genetic colonialism” to rob the world’s peasants and indigenous farmers of their hard-earned seeds and knowledge.'

On 12/27/2020 at 12:49 AM, Guest Guest said:

What’s the difference between the Sikh farmers and the luddites we had in the UK who didn’t want their mills change. 
there were alot of Ludditues who lost their homes but the government decision  saved millions of jobs and improve the economy overall ??

the luddites were protecting their individual familiy's existence and bread  against the cheaper imported cotton of India and the mechanised looms . They knew that it was the loot of farmers just like themselves from elsewhere that propped up the millowners business and the millowners also were demanding their children to work the dangerous machinery . It is always the poor that get exploited to feed the rich's greed

23 hours ago, Guest JoginderSingh said:

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Thank you all for reading this post. I am currently planning on proposing to my girlfriend. I am a Punjabi staying in the UK and my girlfriend is ethnically Chinese staying in the UK as well. She is very interested in Sikhi and we have discussed it many times. We have even decided that the kids will keep joora and learn bani as well. She is humble and compassionate, and reminds me of the qualities of being a good Sikh by her very nature. She does not keep her kesh, and she is learning Punjabi as well in her spare time. Essentially, she is learning slowly how to be a good Sikh, and I do not want to pressure her. 

However, we have been getting alot of judgement and hate from the community, especially with all the chugli and gossiping thats been going around. I do not understand their problem - if anything, my girlfriend is a better Sikh than half of them. Anyone has any advice on how I can look past all this hate and negativity? We are not doing anything wrong

maybe it is just rubbing them up the wrong way because her being an outsider IS being a better sikh than they themselves i.e. it holds up the mirror to their faults . Don't take it the wrong way stay on your intended path and Waheguru ji will help you , don't let naysayers rob your family of peace of mind . I myself have been along your path so know it can get tough ignoring the backbiting but you have to to suceed, they gave us months and we just had our silver wedding anniversary , four kids all brought up in sikhi , it's doable just be a strong and communicative couple . Stay in chardikala

a decent talk and I agree we need to stop listening to those who wish us to think small

3 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

This deserves a closer look in its viability as a workable policy instead of a vague feel-good statement designed to absolve certain groups of responsibility for their ineptitude.

I've been hearing it bandied around as an excuse for our failures since I was a kid. I'll respond to this theory and why I think it's flawed when I have the time.

well what does it take to be a khalsa ? rehit, study of all granths and faiths but full faith in our own, learn as many languages and cultures as possible , be educated and aware of the world, ecologically conscious and protective of the voiceless environment, learn herbal and ayurvedic medicine , shastar vidhiya, learn to play an instrument to accompany kirtan (learn raag) , learn rajniti of others and be strategic thinkers  and that is a basic skill set . If we had huge groups of such people , how could we not suceed?

if people are worried about a country on principles of halemi raj rather than capitalistic/communistic  mess that has tortured the planet maybe they don't realise just how they would be swapping uncertainty for the kknowledge that your community would be working to make sure of  deg teg fateh , their children would have education as a right and of a quality that would include character trait development that will create positive and industrious people for the future.
 

Alcohol and drugs habituation has been the down fall of our panth time and again , we should stick to our Guru's model this time . People will be grateful for freedom from violence , arguments, accidents and infidelities/ rapes caused by alcohol/drug consumption , the world is going to need leaders with different thinking to the neoliberals/communists  why not try it before knocking it ? Just as we don't let outsiders tell us how we have to change Guru Maryada for humans' weaknesses  why would we knock down Guru ji's way ?

14 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

We don't need Khalistan, then. Building up a country's infrastructure using trade, secular sciences, and miri principles is manmati materialism. Let's retreat to a cave, and pray a homeland into existence, or continue to exist under India's benevolent rule. 

Guru ji has sent his children out across the face of this planet and being his children we have spread his good image and effects on local communities , if we can get our good people to join the panth and encourage the bad to rethink and recommit or go , net result will always be positive . Look at the current farmer's protest although it is affecting all faiths it is only Guru ji's chardikala spirit and teachings that have gotten it off the ground and into the world's eyes . We will have Khalsa Raaj but IF AND ONLY IF we become Khalsa proper and keep Guru ji's standards not our own (we are lax) it's been said many times over since 1984

On 2/14/2021 at 7:35 AM, Guest said:

Right now they're asking for a hindu CM for Punjab on twitter. 

Very shameful lot. 

funny since they got trashed in the elections in all seats contested... guess keyboard warrior campaignig is better than catching chittar garama garam from irate aunties ...

22 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Maybe so but nowhere near as bad as in North Africa, Middle East and South Asia. Brown people are the most conservative people.

you mean mainly muslim africa/asia   and conservative chinese/thai/vietnamese/indian???/Srilanka

1 minute ago, shastarSingh said:

yes.

I was told by a Singh that before 1984 attack on Darbar Sahib, beautiful women with revealing clothes were sent to seduce Taksali Singhs and extract information.

hey they tried to do that last month at farmer protests too to malign the farmer youth

Just now, ChardikalaUK said:

Not in South America, it is very common for women in Mexico, Argentina, Brazil etc to have children out of wedlock. No honour crimes there.

they still think of such women as loose and chiritar heen , sure they have kids out of wedlock because the guys have their dalliance then run out on them , most people still expect marriage to be the natural outcome if people are in love