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interesting but m sound cannot be made without moving lips or tongue only ng like in nganga so has to be au ah ng ...NOT au ah m some tenuous points made to make the case for AUM which is the code for hindu trinity. M also resonates primarily in the mouth and lips whereas ng goes to the bones of the skull, the ears and upper nasal chamber and thus third eye and dasam duar. I've never heard anyone say oankar (ohankaar) in practice only onkar/ongkar(ohngkaar)

no i meant the original line up muslim, jew, christian .... i think hindu and sikh views will diverge very very quickly after ongkara since we don't deal with mythologies like the churning of the seas , ganga's arrival on the earth etc

don't worry i get it , my Gs look like modified 8s apparently maths just seeps into subconcious

vadde bhag gursikh ki ...

also this is why gurbani says dev lok are envious of true gursikhs because they are trapped in tregun maya without mukhti unlike gursikhs who can merge with akal purakh and come out of joons

point is they must have asked permission as the gurdwara is too small ...so why this stupidity that people are miming gurbani this is not some theocratic state where now singhs and kaurs have to mime act their kirtan for fear of offence)

ooooohhhh coding symbols but bhrava ussin left to right large to small normally list karde han tahin samaj nahin aaii

the other thing also adi shakti made Maya/kaal which created asura as well dev lok that's why asura could never be conquered without dev lok asking for shastra from akal purakh ... the true mahakaal as it is only by his hukam kaal can be destroyed

this is the same place where they banned azaan for muslims ...see a pattern?

talk about suppression of faith, the whole point of a kirtan darbar is the joint experience of the sangat and their singing of gurbani

bro gurbani has the hierarchy the other way ika mai jugat viaaie tin chele parvan ....adi shakti creates maya acting on and through the three chele brahma, vishnu and shiva , given that indra comes after them surely he is subservient especially since he could not destroy the demons himself and had to call on adi shakti through chandi to get the job done.

which confirms what guru ji has said that they are just as subject to panj chor /maya as others

no don't think so because sunny is doing the shaft hairstyle to look intelligent and distance himself from sikhi (yeah haha on both counts) and yet he cannot stop yapping about things that have nothing to do with him .The liberal media love it and lap up his pronouncments like he knows something but all he does is undermine his own parent's community for the people who would have them converted or six feet under.

he went because of hukam, he suffered to finish his lena dena ...he accepted it as Akal Purakh's will try not to ascribe superstitious nonsense as a causation , because as gurbani tells you jis ka sahib dada hoe , tis nu maar na sakke koe

I suspect three faith who have a common creation story would have been a pointless exercise ...

they have also been infiltrated don't be complacent ....

what is the english translation author because it is not that accurate , the second line is not relating to the gurmukhi at all taken from searchgurbani.com; ਹਮ ਤੁਮ ਸੰਗਿ ਝੂਠੇ ਸਭਿ ਬੋਲਾ ॥ Ham Thum Sang Jhoothae Sabh Bolaa || False is all his talk of me and you. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੨:੧੦ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੧ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਪਾਇ ਠਗਉਰੀ ਆਪਿ ਭੁਲਾਇਓ ॥ Paae Thagouree Aap Bhulaaeiou || The Lord Himself administers the poisonous potion, to mislead and delude. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੨:੧੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੧ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਨਾਨਕ ਕਿਰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ਮਿਟਾਇਓ ॥੨॥ Naanak Kirath N Jaae Mittaaeiou ||2|| O Nanak, the the karma of past actions cannot be erased. ||2|| ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੨:੧੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੧ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਪਸੁ ਪੰਖੀ ਭੂਤ ਅਰੁ ਪ੍ਰੇਤਾ ॥ Pas Pankhee Bhooth Ar Praethaa || Beasts, birds, demons and ghosts ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੨ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧਿ ਜੋਨੀ ਫਿਰਤ ਅਨੇਤਾ ॥ Bahu Bidhh Jonee Firath Anaethaa || - in these many ways, the false wander in reincarnation. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੨ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਜਹ ਜਾਨੋ ਤਹ ਰਹਨੁ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ॥ Jeh Jaano Theh Rehan N Paavai || Wherever they go, they cannot remain there. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੨ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਥਾਨ ਬਿਹੂਨ ਉਠਿ ਉਠਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਧਾਵੈ ॥ Thhaan Bihoon Outh Outh Fir Dhhaavai || They have no place of rest; they rise up again and again and run around. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੪ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੨ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਮਨਿ ਤਨਿ ਬਾਸਨਾ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਿਸਥਾਰਾ ॥ Man Than Baasanaa Bahuth Bisathhaaraa || Their minds and bodies are filled with immense, expansive desires. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੫ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੩ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਅਹੰਮੇਵ ਮੂਠੋ ਬੇਚਾਰਾ ॥ Ahanmaev Mootho Baechaaraa || The poor wretches are cheated by egotism. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੬ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੩ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਅਨਿਕ ਦੋਖ ਅਰੁ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਸਜਾਈ ॥ Anik Dhokh Ar Bahuth Sajaaee || They are filled with countless sins, and are severely punished. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੭ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੩ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਤਾ ਕੀ ਕੀਮਤਿ ਕਹਣੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥ Thaa Kee Keemath Kehan N Jaaee || The extent of this cannot be estimated. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੮ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੪ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਪ੍ਰਭ ਬਿਸਰਤ ਨਰਕ ਮਹਿ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ Prabh Bisarath Narak Mehi Paaeiaa || Forgetting God, they fall into hell. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੯ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੪ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਤਹ ਮਾਤ ਨ ਬੰਧੁ ਨ ਮੀਤ ਨ ਜਾਇਆ ॥ Theh Maath N Bandhh N Meeth N Jaaeiaa || There are no mothers there, no siblings, no friends and no spouses. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੧੦ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੪ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਜਿਸ ਕਉ ਹੋਤ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲ ਸੁਆਮੀ ॥ Jis Ko Hoth Kirapaal Suaamee || Those humble beings, unto whom the Lord and Master becomes Merciful, ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੧੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੫ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਸੋ ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪਾਰਗਰਾਮੀ ॥੩॥ So Jan Naanak Paaragaraamee ||3|| O Nanak, cross over. ||3|| ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੩:੧੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੫ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਭ੍ਰਮਤ ਭ੍ਰਮਤ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਰਨੀ ਆਇਆ ॥ Bhramath Bhramath Prabh Saranee Aaeiaa || Rambling and roaming, wandering around, I came to seek the Sanctuary of God. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੫ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਦੀਨਾ ਨਾਥ ਜਗਤ ਪਿਤ ਮਾਇਆ ॥ Dheenaa Naathh Jagath Pith Maaeiaa || He is the Master of the meek, the father and mother of the world. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੬ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਪ੍ਰਭ ਦਇਆਲ ਦੁਖ ਦਰਦ ਬਿਦਾਰਣ ॥ Prabh Dhaeiaal Dhukh Dharadh Bidhaaran || The Merciful Lord God is the Destroyer of sorrow and suffering. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੬ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਜਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਤਿਸ ਹੀ ਨਿਸਤਾਰਣ ॥ Jis Bhaavai This Hee Nisathaaran || He emancipates whoever He pleases. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੪ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੭ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਅੰਧ ਕੂਪ ਤੇ ਕਾਢਨਹਾਰਾ ॥ Andhh Koop Thae Kaadtanehaaraa || He lifts them up and pulls him out of the deep dark pit. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੫ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੭ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਭਗਤਿ ਹੋਵਤ ਨਿਸਤਾਰਾ ॥ Praem Bhagath Hovath Nisathaaraa || Emancipation comes through loving devotional worship. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੬ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੭ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਸਾਧ ਰੂਪ ਅਪਨਾ ਤਨੁ ਧਾਰਿਆ ॥ Saadhh Roop Apanaa Than Dhhaariaa || The Holy Saint is the very embodiment of the Lord's form. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੭ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੭ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਮਹਾ ਅਗਨਿ ਤੇ ਆਪਿ ਉਬਾਰਿਆ ॥ Mehaa Agan Thae Aap Oubaariaa || He Himself saves us from the great fire. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੮ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੮ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਜਪ ਤਪ ਸੰਜਮ ਇਸ ਤੇ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ Jap Thap Sanjam Eis Thae Kishh Naahee || By myself, I cannot practice meditation, austerities, penance and self-discipline. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੯ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੮ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਆਦਿ ਅੰਤਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਅਗਮ ਅਗਾਹੀ ॥ Aadh Anth Prabh Agam Agaahee || In the beginning and in the end, God is inaccessible and unfathomable. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੧੦ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੮ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਨਾਮੁ ਦੇਹਿ ਮਾਗੈ ਦਾਸੁ ਤੇਰਾ ॥ Naam Dhaehi Maagai Dhaas Thaeraa || Please bless me with Your Name, Lord; Your slave begs only for this. ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੧੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੯ Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ਹਰਿ ਜੀਵਨ ਪਦੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਮੇਰਾ ॥੪॥੩॥੧੯॥ Har Jeevan Padh Naanak Prabh Maeraa ||4||3||19|| O Nanak, my Lord God is the Giver of the true state of life. ||4||3||19|| ਮਾਰੂ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੯) ੪:੧੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੦੫ ਪੰ. ੯ Raag M

malevolent spirit life form , one of the joons in shabad kosh.com they describe as spirit/demon/goblin ...they exist

as far as i was told it prevent gurbani in the house , disturbed people's sleep, scary dreams and things would turn up broken, there was only masi ji and masard ji about and both of them worked outside ... when she did this paat she would hear scary noises and face off distractive attempts but she doubled down onthe paat. On the fortieth day as she completed the paat she heard a massive noise like a thunderclap inside the home and afterwards never had a single problem like that.

you can read it at night but you will have to continue reading until dawn , it is the vidhi of doing chandi di vaar at that time, during the day you can stop after one recitation if you wish . This is the method told by shaheed Singhs to Baba Harnam Singh ji Rampur kede wale when he made the mistake of stopping after one recitation in the hours of darkness. it is written up in Se Kineiya when my masi ji did it for forty days to battle against strong effects of pret on her home she was told to sit on clean white chadar after keshi ishnaan (which you would do anyhow for nitnem abiyaas).

listen and read this shabad whenever you feel that way , you born 1 in 400 thousand trillion chance , you were sent here it was no accident and your being a sikh isn't either . Rely on GurPita ji in your low times and He will see you through it: Ja Tu Mere Wal Hai Ta Kya MuhChanda || When You are on my side, Almighty Waheguru, what do I need to worry about? Tud Sab Kich Mainu Saunpeya Ja Tera Banda || You entrusted everything to me, when I became Your slave. Lakhmi Tot Na Aavai Khaye Kharach Rehnda || My wealth is inexhaustible, no matter how much I spend and consume. Lakh Chauraasih Maedani Sabh Sev Karanda || All your creation is looking after me and serving me. Ehe Wairi Mittar Sabh Kitia Neh Mangeh Manda || All my enemies have become my friends and no one wishes me ill. Lekha Koi Na Puchhai Ja Har Bakhsanda || No one calls me to account, since the Almighty is my forgiver. Anand Bhayea Sukh Paayea Mille Guru Govinda || I have become blissful, and I have found peace, meeting with the Guru, the Lord of the Universe. Sabhe Kaaj Sawariye Ja Tud Bhavanda || All my affairs have been resolved, since You are pleased with me.

maybe it was just a troll drop-off because i did ask for clarification what 'she' meant - no answer

too many cereal box licences out there...

certainly better than turning the air blue ,,,especially when getting cut up in traffic

don't worry bhain ji , when it is popping up on your tongue , its just your body continuing simran at the back of your mind and the occasional one comes forward into your convo. if your friends are so sensitive maybe they should sit and think why , presuming they are Kaurs and need to be doing naam jap to help themselves . i also say Waheguru when sneezing, surprised, sleeping and turning...i think the cutest thing I've seen is sangat sleeping at an Akhand paat (downstairs) and sardar and his sardarni taking turns doing subconcious waheguru jap in response to hearing the other . if we remember our support, maker and love what is the problem ? nothing...so be happy