Just now, GurjantGnostic said:

A great increase in dialogue is very much in order. It would greatly bolster both communities to collaborate. They clearly need Dharam and we clearly need allies of great numbers and ability in the shared struggle for simple human freedom. 

be prepared to hear how they would rather take up islam as it is not the religion of the slavers , they do not know the real truth that all three abrahamic faiths enslaved their people and justified their exploitation, hinduism would never respect them or even accept them , buddhism might but it would not serve their communities' needs for up liftment , only Guru ji's sikhi has that power and those who are religious in the black communities are slowly shifting towards Guru ji's camp.

Patience and understanding is needed and probably a new system of non physical golak (too tempting in poor neighbourhoods).

10 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Lastly we need to recruit youth from all races and backgrounds, the darker the better. We should be running outreach programs in other communities, once our house in order and providing what it should, and help them set up their own Dharam organizations based on their culture and spirituality, flushed out by Purtan Gursikhi, and converting those that wish to become proper Sikhs. 

Here is where using dance, music, art, and contemporary culture help the most. That and keeping our own youth attracted. 

So yes we need edm and hip hop etc, with strong sentiments, to recruit, retain, and communicate with the outside world, especially those involved in the struggle. 

All the bollywood, punjabi, bhalle bhalle ain't gonna cut it and in fact that music is all working against us. Bhangra done right should have been bringing people into the Paanth not out of it. Music venues are a prime recruiting ground. Our venues have been recruiting for the groomers. They should be recruiting soldiers. 

they suffer from racism towards us too and have this envy becaise in their minds we havent been under the jackboot as much as them . Frankly it is ignorance due to Anglo manipulated history where sikhs are way down on the contributions list to independance fight , most people do not know about the anglo sikh wars including apney it is shameful. If both groups were made aware of the truth of sikhi and its many defences against annihilation from all quarters they will take pause, and in that pause you can drop knowledge on the sikhi way of life and outlook that made us take on the might of empire builders. 

Black people have said in the past to me that I do not understand their plight and we've had the conversation some will come away with new eyes, others will stubbornly stick to their victim mentality as it serves as justification for hating others, and some will be interested and ask further questions . It takes allsorts to fill the world so we shouldn't take the stubborn as a sign to stop trying to dialogue.

44 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Which white man encouraged the Mughals to execute the two youngest sons of Guru Gobind Singh?

The Aryan Hindu Brahmin faction starting with Kashmiri Pandit Gangu through to Suchanand

On 1/13/2022 at 6:59 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

Promote other people do the same. Remember he didn't have to give up his spirituality, he just had to give up his beard. Even if that's against his spirituality right? All part of a narrative to erode Sikhi bro. It has a lot of money behind it. 

Oh sorry it's his faith that he's not giving up on, but he is, he's giving up on the faith in what his Guru told him to do. To be more like these Kalyugis. Assimiliation. 

 

 

10 hours ago, Premi5 said:

What type of dastaar do the men in your family tie?

gol dastar or dumalla

and my mum wears a small keshki akj bibian style

36 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Which book, jee ?

Badges of Bondage : The conquest of the Sikh Mind (1847-1947)

by Guru Fatha Singh Khalsa ( his spelling)
ISBN 9780968265802

  and yes he is a yogi Bhajan influenced dude but the writing so far is pro sikh and anti-raj

please note in his youth he wore his dharda parkash and a gol dastar  but post brainwashing he started wearing the ghulami bhes of Patiala shahi pagg and fixo tied beard and NOW he looks like a typical kenyan sikh with turban  but trimmed beard .

This is a broken man .

what a prize <banned word filter activated> of copying his dad's fixo crunchy dhari styling methods , he could have gone onto any sikh webgroup or even hipster beard grooming tips page and got any amount of advice and help , this is honestly a weak in intelligence person  or he is just a sly one trying to get praise for being a slacker .

Nobody who washes , oils and combs their beards on the  daily, ever spends hours per day doing it , even my Dad in his preamrit days would do the fixo routine and tie up in less than 15 mins .Some major exaggeration going on here because with time and muscle memory times cut down not increase to do dastar or hair style .

The people teasing his beard must be his fixo uncles, dad and cousins  of course we know that he would never mention the truth .  I am reading a very good little book by a white Sikh about how Britons came and forced their ideas including  beard= dirty narrative on sikhs and how their lapdogs started tying beards and starching dastars unlike the dastars of the sikh fauj with their dhardaan 'parkash' and freshly tied dumalla .

It is one thing to be inferior and another to 'feel' inferior  ; this man has ingested his family's lack of spine wholesale for no reason . You can be sure his little one will be even more lax , such a shame

9 hours ago, proactive said:

Looks like they are very suspicious of your email!  There is no doubt there is sexual abuse in our community but these types of organisations are solely founded to create jobs for liberals and their friends. The liberals tried to set up organisations to combat Sikh 'extremism' in the mid 2010s but there were not takers in the government so now we have organisations that combat sexual abuse. The only organisation that actually battles sexual abuse in our community is SAS and Bhai Mohan Singh. This SWA wants us to believe that there is no issue of sexual abuse by paedophile grooming gangs. There are loads of funds available from the government if you can create a niche organisation like SWA. It's all a part of the gravy train. If they had any sense they  would have set up a company and tried to get PPE contracts and they could have retired by now! 

certainly the case that these organisations do little to help but do so much to hinder sikhi getting a fair shake in the media . I mean given we have the sikh press association why would they need to hire another agent to hook them up with press? a cause for thought about their motives - accepting blood money for putting the less prevalent dirty laundry out for all to crow 'see they beat their wives too , it is not us muslims who are the bad guys'    it

now compare it to how SAS and Bhai MOhan Singh ji handled the odd sikh joining in with a grooming gang or family case , no fuss no denial just stated that they are NOT representative of sikh attitude and behaviour  and just cussed down the dirty so and so and got on with it .the response of white, yellow, black and brown folks thank you for just accepting and telling  the truth and then they congratulated sikhs for ostracising the filth of which there are very little compared to most groups. (witnessed spat between regular fans and mussies trying to crow and self-justify)

On 12/15/2021 at 6:57 PM, dallysingh101 said:

I grew up around Irish (and plastic Paddies) in a local pub and work. A lot of them (the older ones anyway) were always very curious and shockingly well informed about 1984 for some reason? More than many Panjabis I've known. Irish seem very politically astute in this respect for some reason?  

if you look at those historians and civil servants who studied sikhi( at time of Raaj ) truly they were either Irish or scottish roots  I think it is because they are in touch with their poetic roots and empathy for man and beast (nature) . So Guru ji's words struck them just right. The germans /french/English were soulesss. 
When I did my famiy roadtrip around Ireland both North and south the historical treatment and methods usd against the Irish were reused against the sikhs in Punjab that's why the Irish and to a lesser extent the Scots will understand our position and our fighting spirit against the firangi .

7 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Always nice to "see" you Bhenji. 

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh little bro good to See you active here too

8 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

Im just syaing that no group is more traditional than others anymore. Most people have lost sharam except maybe muslims(compared to other groups they have more sharam imo).

nah they only seem to have it covered , my two university friends (muslim one singaporean daughter of nepali convert other Pakistani married to bahraini) made it clear to me that most muslim girls are desperate to act out but toe the be respectble line for folks at home , both girls had experience of being molested by men one by her  scripture teacher in her own home, the other when out and about. The second girl corrected my assumption about clothing in homes and under burka/hijab even in Saudi , she was quite clear that the women folk wear westernised clothing also and even miniskirts , shorts etc , latest fashion hairstyles , makeup .
Yes they may have scared the women into submission on pain of death but that really a choice?

36 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

They have many schools in russia where they teach women how to get married to rich men from other countries lol.

and in the west they still do they are called finishing schools  that's what the whole rich girls schooling system was predicated on , being acceptable to rich families , getting  trained up and then announce your availability by being presented at court or attending a debuntante's ball . Apney do the sametraining  but in a much more inhouse drip drip way , learn to homemake, dress nice, speak sweetly, defer to the man etc etc. If you want to compare then apnay are just as desperate to marry into wealth , look at the BS they are willing to put up with to get they progeny married out .