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But what was the point of having dinosaurs? Humans are the only species that can contemplate God so why not have them here earlier?
Why create so many billion empty planets with no life?
Why have black holes?
These are questions that no one has answers to.
Everything happens according to the timeless one's will he has created millions upon millions of stars, planets , lifeforms,. perhaps the dinosaurs and plants were needed to create the fossil fuels, and black gold that we plough in the fields ...is it necessary to waste valuable breaths on speculation just live in this breath .
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Ik chuperd marke bus karna chahida see but they went on and on ...they should have seen the kids was terrified and remorseful and changed tune by explaining with piare that gulti phir nahin karna . I did happen to see it before the original poster started the thread it made my stomach turn as it was in the same flavour as some shiv sena types beating up two muslim guys for transport cattle in their truck.
Khalsa are supposed to be like Guru ji not tyrants ...what's going on?
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Been very interested in religious and spiritual matters a while now and I have been on a quest to find what life is all about.I was brought up Roman Catholic but only recently I have been trying to find out all what it entails. Although I believe Jesus to be a very good man I don't think he was the son of God. For me Sikhism is the religion that touches on the truth as it goes directly to the divine. Iam glad I found out more about this religion as it certainly has enriched my life for the better
there are a lot of resources out there
Vids which give some base in the faith and its belief :
basics of sikhi and sikh2inspire are two good starting channels on youtube as they have a lot of stuff explained in english
for sikh current affairs/recent history rajoanaTV on youtube too
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Sikhi = ACTION/ Karna Sikh = those who stopped existing as humans busy 'being'...they have transformed into humans busy 'doing'
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A few lines in the paper does not define ones character, our souls are forever evolving. Lets pray that he is blessed with the wisdom to overcome the challenges that are presented to him on this show.
It never hurts to remember Waheguru but I am sure this guys is not going to learn anything of true value there ...
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Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ka Fateh
The petition is still up on change.org however it has been posted by a mystery man this time, not the guy that originally posted the petition who took it down.
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There are 400-500,000 Sikhs in the UK, less than 1% of the world's population are Sikhs. The turban helps us to identify Sikhs. Upon establishing turban as a Sikh identity Guru Gobind Singh Ji said, “My Sikh will be recognised among millions”.
Since Sikhs believe God to be present everywhere, they cover their head not just in church but everywhere else as well.
We should look at the wisdom ,knowledge and the education and experience of the person rather than his beard or what show his on.
You are Sikh if you follow the teaching of our Gurus. Guru Nanak did not set any example of keeping hair and so on. Most important is to help family, neighbours, no killing, no stealing and earn a living by right way of working and stay away from drugs, do not hurt anyone, be a friend etc, and you will be on the right path to being a good man.
Isn't this what all human beings strive for, regardless of how you look?
We must not forget Pav is a western Sikh boy that represents many modern Sikh boys living in the UK, Now amongst 68 Million people in the UK, with diverse cultures at play, we are all constantly adapting to our environment he still stands for many of qualities that are present in the modern Sikh man of today.
I'm for one am very proud that he is on the show, it takes courage, it takes something special than just words to put yourself out there without any fear of what people may think or say.
I urge all the committed Gursikhs who we look up to, to come from compassion and love, Pav will only bring out either the good in us or the bad in us, the ultimate question is who are you being in reaction to it.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
Accha Veer ji,
then if he gives the stereotypical sharabi kabeebi misogynist Punjabi image to SIkhi in the Uks minds you'll be happy and still proud ... I read the blurb in the mirror about him and some of things he said made me cringe and I've seen plenty messed up people.
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oh no not BB - SINGH DONT SCREW UP
too late he's said he's gonna show the world that Sikhs are liberal and fun-loving ... and that he's looking for love ...he wont mind marrying for love and he doesn't mind what religion the girl is
get ready for girl chasing and boozing... sigh
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Too many immigrants programme tonight on bbc1 at 9pm
It's my little bhabhi ...trying to sneak it past people in the family apparently LOL
Apparently her episode is tomorrow, sorry to disappoint .
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Compare that with 1947 where Sikhs ensured that the Muslims of Malerkotla were left unharmed only because Sher Muhammad Khan protested against the killing of the Chhote Sahibzaade. It shows that Sikhs never forget their friends or enemies for centuries. Indians on the other hand, especially Hindutva loving fanatic Hindus see everyone who doesn't agree with them as a foe. India right now has an element which is called by some columnists as the "Hindu Taliban".
And every Diwali gift your Hindu friends with a huge frame carrying this picture
I wouldn't wait for the phoola da haar :biggrin2:
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sorry to sound out of it but what has a SECULAR agency got to do with setting up a religious organisation? ...
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So what you're saying is olden day's Hindus were nice decent people whereas today's Hindus are uncouth barbarians ?
By 'volatile' I take it you mean mentally unbalanced ?
The man didn't discuss history just for the sake of it. There's a Gurdwara significant to the history of Sikhs laying down their lives to save Hindus. Today, Hindus attacked that Gurdwara. If that falls within your definition of 'just for the sake of it' You obviously have a different definition of the word 'relevance' to the rest of the world.
Apart from the fact that much of Hindu India today is intolerant, hateful, ungrateful and, in your own words 'volatile' and we Sikhs are much better off and safer away from such barbaric people what more is there to learn ?
How about making sure we do COMMERATE Guru Teg Bahadur ji's SHAHIDI gurpurab in a massive way worldwide ...so the whole world learns the truth of Sikhi's heroes
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You're blessed if you can dream. Atleast you hope/expect to see good for the qaum.
Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh,
I honestly feel that building a future for the kaum is more important than wasting time, effort and money chasing a justice that will never be forthcoming from mortals. They want to know a good 1984 project to invest in ...project 1849 ...Free Tanti saaz Raag kirtan scholarships to get a generation of Gurmat sangeet Parampara Kirtaniya in the kaum throughout the globe . Let's bring back our kirtan to what it should be and get to the point where no harmoniums need to be used in Guru's Hazoori
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petition time anyone ?
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Waheguru ji KA Khalsa, Waheguru ji Ki Fateh,
Honestly suing the gov't is a waste of valuable resources how about putting the money into Sikhi parchaar, Raag kirtan scholarships Santhiya camps and classes, self-defense classes for the kids instead? Or am I too much of a dreamer?
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Those who have already decided that they would cut their hair at the end of week and keep on doing beadbi of sikhi sarrop but also would like to do some religious activities does not mean they become true dharmic and They can never be dharmic atleast according to the Sikh principles.. and yeah they can be good human being but can never be sikh..and being sikh is the next level of Being good human being..
I don't blame my jeeja too much, his father died when he was very young and his mother was too influenced by Hindu neighbours , their family is just Mother and two sons , the older one is my jeeja he had to support folks in India and was in Saudi Arabia ...I don't think he had much SIkhi Influence it's more Bollywood nonsense influencing him . Waheguru Kirpa Karan
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SO you are now complete Gursikh and your kids? and what about your Hubby? he became Gursikh too now? and how did you marry ?
Those who have already decided that they would cut their hair at the end of week and keep on doing beadbi of sikhi sarrop but also would like to do some religious activities does not mean they become true dharmic and They can never be dharmic atleast according to the Sikh principles.. and yeah they can be good human being but can never be sikh..and being sikh is the next level of Being good human being..
When we married I didn't consider myself khalsa but sikh and as he had accepted Guru ji so we had anand karaj ceremony and civil at the gurudwara.
I wear my dastaar and panj kakkar I do my banis but I know I can't have amrit alone (that's the killer) so I am waiting on Angelo , I know his family frames it as a family betrayal to become Sikh but he is his own man ... My three teenage boys are amritdhari and my daughter is six so a little young but we do banis together so she is learning.
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Turban guy, I respect your views. I am not intending to convert or change or give up my religion. There is no concern about it. My boyfriend totally and 100 % respects my religion as well. If white men like sikh girls, then the same goes for sikh boys liking white girls. As long as the religion is not harmed and hampered with, there should be no inequality between the two examples right?
Is it appropriate to ask for conversion as per Sikhism principles? I understand for anand karaj, a sikh needs to marry another sikh. What about in general?
You can ask , I did but he wasn't ready although he kept his word and brought up his children in Sikhi and supports their rights wherever we are and even puts his folks straight about it. I understand it can be an intensely emotional subject but it's best dealt with before marriage .
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Jvk ji your husband is not of Indian Origin which is very rare.
Am trying to help mass readers (pappu's),
Mom-dads boys/girls who will never marry out of caste leave aside race/colour.
Nobody is perfect, at least they are marrying a Sikh.
How can you blame them when parents are the decision makers.
Call it tradition or Gods will but frankly not many get to choose their life partners.
I am curious to know why didn't you marry a Sikh by birth & how did you persuade your parents ?
My little brother married an Indian Sikh woman of same gott , he was introduced through family via my Mum . When I went over to India with him, my Husband and my son they came to see us in the pind and the rest was arranged by our Nanaji . Mum was consulted and she was worried about it but it still went through as my Brother said it wasn't right to make an engagement and then break it on such a flimsy thing. They got married in India in 2000 ,they are happy have two lovely sons. My Vadi Bhabhi is more into Bollywood stuff and would prefer her sons were monay but my Brother wont let her touch their gurroop. Their family is more like the average Jatinder type family go gurudwarey on family programs. Keshadhari but not really aware of sikhi. I suspect Bhabhi knows more than she lets on but it doesn't suit her to let on.
The baby of the family married a UK singhni she's not amritdhari but wears dastaar and does her bania and has encouraged him back to a more Sikhi-centric life which is wonderful as he was more susceptible to western influences. They married in 2009 and have two lovely girls .
My little sister married last she's in between the two brothers she met a punjabi munda online working in Saudi Arabia and went with Mum to India , they met, Mum OK'd it and they married on that trip it was out of caste whatever that means and they are also happy here with their daughter. They do their banis and are learning together about sikhi . They are what you would consider 'monay' family but they are more dharmic than the brother just younger than me.
I am curious to know why didn't you marry a Sikh by birth & how did you persuade your parents ?
Nobody is a sikh by birth Guru ji's updesh says so ... we all have to have give our heads to Guru ji before we can be accepted . My own feeling is it was Angelo's fate to become closer to SIkhi because to know him and his thoughts and actions he is not the same as family it's like night and day . An incident happened in my life when I was very young and naive and from then I had decided I would rather be alone , pay my own way in this world and perhaps spend it doing sewa instead of getting married .
That's why I studied at university and that's when Angelo met me and also when the culprit of the incident tried to come back into my life . Angelo was a study buddy and a friend and could see I was in distress so I told him why , he offered to deal with it for me but I told him NO my fight is my fight . So I dealt with that nasty scum and Angelo was there as moral support when I finally came clean with my family about what had happened , they did the whole Punjabi melodrama thing . But I was firm I'm not going to expose myself to prospective in-laws and I'm not lying, no amritdhari guys going to be messed about by my actions. I realised that I was spending a lot of my time thinking about what Angelo would say do etc . then I realised I was in risk of being unfaithful in terms that Guru ji has put before us 'to even think of someone other than your spouse' there was no way I could marry another person in good conscience . So the ardas came please Waheguru ji save me from this situation ... I listen to Guru ji and told Angelo what was going on , he was surprised but agreed that going to my folks would be the best thing to do.
My Dad was in India visiting his sis so Mum was the first to meet Angelo with my brothers and sister...she could see that he was a decent , respectful human being but she was non-committal. Then Dad got back and met him too same... once Angelo left, Dad said that I shouldn't fall for the first person who shows me kindness I listened and understood where he was coming from so when he said you guys need to wait a year before getting engaged I was fine with it . I carried on with my life , found a job lived at home the usual ...when the year was up and Angelo was still around they did the engagement in front of Guru ji with his parents there . We then had to wait another year before they would consider a date for the marriage, in the first year Dad had consulted with Sant /Avaasta wale Baba in India about our situation and bachan was that Angelo would become a Gursikh so he OK'd a date.
By the time we married we had known each other over 6 years and although people have been waiting for us to fail we are still together over 18 married years now. When Dad passed Angelo joined in fully, bathing him and preparing him , supporting Mum, doing sewa in the house during the paat ,in fact my Mum said that he did more for her in that time than her biological sons. He has learned how to love in the sikh way and realises how blessed he is to have a Sikh family.
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Extracts from Wikipedia that should raise alarms (make up your own minds!):
Caffeine is a bitter, white crystalline xanthine alkaloid and a stimulant drug. Caffeine is found in varying quantities in the seeds, leaves, and fruit of some plants, where it acts as a natural pesticide that paralyzes and kills certain insects feeding on the plants, as well as enhancing the reward memory of pollinators.
In humans, caffeine acts as a central nervous system stimulant, temporarily warding off drowsiness and restoring alertness. It is the world's most widely consumed psychoactive drug, but unlike many other psychoactive substances, it is legal and unregulated in nearly all parts of the world.
Caffeine overdose can result in a state of central nervous system over-stimulation called caffeine intoxication (DSM-IV 305.90).[44] This syndrome typically occurs only after ingestion of large amounts of caffeine, well over the amounts found in typical caffeinated beverages and caffeine tablets (e.g., more than 400–500 mg at a time). The symptoms of caffeine intoxication are comparable to the symptoms of overdoses of other stimulants: they may include restlessness, fidgeting, anxiety, excitement, insomnia, flushing of the face, increased urination, gastrointestinal disturbance, muscle twitching, a rambling flow of thought and speech, irritability, irregular or rapid heart beat, and psychomotor agitation.[56] In cases of much larger overdoses, mania, depression, lapses in judgment, disorientation, disinhibition, delusions, hallucinations, or psychosis may occur, and rhabdomyolysis (breakdown of skeletal muscle tissue) can be provoked.[57][58]
Extreme overdose can result in death.[59][60] The median lethal dose (LD50) given orally is 192 milligrams per kilogram in rats. The LD50 of caffeine in humans is dependent on individual sensitivity, but is estimated to be about 150 to 200 milligrams per kilogram of body mass or roughly 80 to 100 cups of coffee for an average adult.[61] Though achieving lethal dose of caffeine would be difficult with regular coffee, it is easier to reach high doses with caffeine pills, and the lethal dose can be lower in individuals whose ability to metabolize caffeine is impaired. Chronic liver disease is one factor that can slow the metabolism of caffeine.[62] There has been a reported death of a man who had liver cirrhosis overdosing on caffeinated mints.[63][64][65] Drugs such as fluvoxamine or levofloxacin can have a similar effect by blocking the liver enzyme responsible for the metabolism of caffeine, thus increasing the central effects and blood concentrations of caffeine five-fold.[58][59][60][66] The exact cause of death in such cases is uncertain, but may result from cardiac arrhythmia leading to cardiac arrest.
Treatment of severe caffeine intoxication is generally supportive, providing treatment of the immediate symptoms, but if the patient has very high serum levels of caffeine then peritoneal dialysis, hemodialysis, or hemofiltration may be required.[56]
Addiction and toleranceMain article: Caffeine addictionWith repetitive use, physical dependence or addiction may occur. Also, some effects of caffeine, particularly the autonomic effects, decrease over time, a phenomenon known as a tolerance. Tolerance develops quickly to some (but not all) effects of caffeine, especially among heavy coffee and energy drink consumers.[67] Some coffee drinkers develop tolerance to its sleep-disrupting effects, but others apparently do not.[31]
WithdrawalWithdrawal symptoms – including headaches, irritability, inability to concentrate, drowsiness, insomnia, and pain in the stomach, upper body, and joints – may appear within 12 to 24 hours after discontinuation of caffeine intake, peak at roughly 48 hours, and usually last from 2 to 9 days.[68] Withdrawal headaches are experienced by 52% of people who stopped consuming caffeine for two days after an average of 235 mg caffeine per day prior to that.[69] In prolonged caffeine users, symptoms such as increased depression and anxiety, nausea, vomiting, physical pains and intense desire for caffeine are also reported. Peer knowledge, support and interaction may aid withdrawal.
Caffeine withdrawal is categorized as a mental disorder in the DSM-5 (the 5th edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual published by the American Psychiatric Association).[70] Previous versions of the manual included "caffeine intoxication" but not caffeine withdrawal.
Energy drinks such Redbull and the like which are high in caffeine and taurine can create respiratory system distress and when combined with alcohol as is popular amongst the pub crowd is a recipe for a heart attack or stroke so warn your nearest and dearest if they do the added step ... and those who don't as both things are pretty bad.
Thanks
ps. don't do what my chota khalsa veer did and drop the tea ....then start the coffee ... I had to smile at that one :happy2:
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"Amritdhari guys are asking their wives to be like gorey mems instead of Guru Gobind Singh ji's daughters and kicking them to the kerb if they don't ."
really? so far I have seen the majority of non amritdhari sikh guys and even monas want their wives to cover their heads and wear decent cloths to avoid skin show off..These are the sikh girls who fight for the sake of fashion and trends..
The guys you are talking about may be considered but everybody knows these are exceptional cases and can be ignored easily.. and in my opinion exceptional cases should not be considered.
"je aaj goriyaan mema nu Gursikh munda pasand aun lag pya te ide wich kasoor gursikh munde da nai a.." These are good qualities of any Gursikh guy that are liked by every girl if she is genuine woman..."
btw you look from london and I don't think I should tell you what sikh girls are getting over here......."name and shame" both..
and one thing more, go to any Gurudwara sahib ji or get any newspaper or go to any sikh matrimonial site. and see who demands and requires more, sikh girl or sikh guy?and also see sikh girl or sikh guy, who wants us to separate from Guru Gobind Singh ji ...for sure you are gonna get your answer...
khud changiyaan hundiyan ta Guriskh munde naal vyaa kron nu thavadia linaa lagiyaan hunyian c...supne Guriskh de aune c naa ki justin beiber de... changaa bhalla munda sardara da mangta bnaa ke rakh dita te gallan karooo.........
the most famous line in our punjabi families is sung by sikh girls """ mummy mummy main sardar munde naal vyaa nai krona ,munda mainu cleanshave chahida".. so do the sikh guys sing a song something like that? naah nahh...
Veer ji
I was just pointing out that all humans are suffering from the same Maya ... my husband works in the city and he would come home and occasionally share how he was flabbergasted and shocked at the Hijabwali bibian's behaviour , now he's from a country where basically nange lok phirde on the beaches so I can only imagine what he has seen. As he says they want to be judged by the look of modesty and be respected but then the clothes are tight, face is caked in makeup and then they come to see their boyfriends and grind up on them in public. it is pure hypocrisy, same at schools and uni the kids say one thing to Ma Pio then go totally off the rails when out of sight. The guys need to behave too it's not just the girls.
I believe when you watch Bollywood movies/serials in your home you create a rod for your own back especially if you are not installing Sikh values in your kids ... I don't have any of the channels, I also restrict the influence of hollywood as much as possible and my kids so far operate in Sikh mentality, they are questioning the results of what they see around them in life in terms of Sikh values , I am supremely thankful to Waheguru that they do engage their brains . Most family members who watch those filmi things don't think of anything on a deep level it's all superficial in my experience.
Those people who keep giving headspace to jaat paat are giving their valuable thoughts to Hindu mat rentfree. They are probably the same people who need to get their chanda sewa recognised by calling it out in ardas, insisting on having partysharty on gurudwara premises at the weddings too etc etc
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I know that my husband found my sikhi a definite megaplus , it gave him a place to be his true self not act up to being some kind of stereotypical jack-the-lad , it allows him to talk about spiritual stuff his family doesn't process or discuss possibly those gorian who like Gursikhs are like my husband they need a true partner. There is no doubt in my mind that Gursikhs are very attractive they are clean-living, spiritual, full of chardi kala and compassion what's not to like ? Unfortunately you can't legislate against stupid and that what these girls and guys and their parents are who more worried about fitting into filmi stereotypes than having true meaning in their lives
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My observation, given a choice punjabi's will most likely marry kids in their own caste.
So why be a hypocrite ?
Only in love marriage things like caste, race, class etc are ignored.
No in an true khalsa Anand Karaj it is so
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Thanks for sympathy. Yes its real hard to find real saint.
But we have one saint which is eternal THE SHABAD GURU.
When you have that avasta you don't seek the limelight you seek Akal Purakh only ...those who don't push their own agenda but spend their time in bhagti and encourage others to do the same quietly are more likely to be what you are seeking in terms of candidates for panj sewa. You are forgetting Bani is the true Amrit, the Panj are just a respresentation of Guru Khalsa Panth and this takes place in Hazoori of Sri Guru Granth Sahib. The sanchar is between Guru ji and you. While it is true your Panj's avasta is important because they give of themselves during the sanchar it is not the be-all and end-all you have to work too . You have only been enrolled into school now comes lessons and study... then your practicals Good Luck.
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You might be mature by age but have a lit to learn when it comes to life and making right choices.
This fantasy of everything is greener on the other side of the fence has ruined many punjabi girls lives. 99% of white people have no ground to stand on. They are swayed and act as the world wants them. I dont like you anymore....you are not fun anymore...lets get a divorce. They literally live in the moment and dont care about long term commitments. That little boy toy you have is living in the moment and will get bored of you in time and who know what he will do to leave you.
Say by a very slim chance he has the ability to take up good punjabi values. What about his parents. What are they like? Are they moral people according to punjabi and Sikhi culture. Can you leave your kids with his parents? Can they be trusted? When two are married the two side of the family literally have to get along and like each others behaviors and morals. Huge disputes take place and I can see this erupting in a split second. Sorry sister but you are being naive and not looking at the whole picture.
White people have very low standards when it comes to what is clean, right, and moral. Majority are like this as they lost their biblical backbone two centuries ago. Punjabis are heading down the same road but aleast for the time being majority are standing on some ground.
When people get ugly, old, and boring then white people run for the hill and dont look back. Todays pretty face is tomorrow's used meat.
Veer ji ,
kaam di bimaari duniya nu laghia not just gorey that's why it called kalyug ...these days even Khalsa are divorcing... and supposedly Amritdhari guys are asking their wives to be like gorey mems instead of Guru Gobind Singh ji's daughters and kicking them to the kerb if they don't . There is one bibi who posted something about her fiance recently like that on the forum, another is suffering because her husband can't stay in the marriage ... where is the idea of one team, for life, to obtain life's goal Jiwan Mukhti ? Most people are busy chasing shadows, very few are holding naam da diva to see what's real.
I can understand the difficulties of a mixed family as my in-laws are gorey Brasilians(they live in Brasil) they are the type of people who have fallen headfirst into maya's illusions and they are poles apart from my family yet their eldest son was a 'black sheep' in terms of spiritual values, he is very much in agreement with Guru ji on how to live life and treat people, he goes gurudwara, listens to kirtan , joins in with sewa happily, he makes sure his kids stick to their guns as trainee Khalsa (they've had amrit), he stopped all meat etc when he married, he has made Guru ji his support in life but he hasn't got to the point yet of taking amrit, he has kept his beard and hair uncut for the past 16 years much to his folks chagrin. They think I am controlling him but truth is I never say do this and do that because he is Guru ji's to command.
My advice to Bhaine ji is be truthful to yourself, the guy and your folks :
Is it infatuation ? because you admit you have not spent that much time with him face to face to judge his character?
Is he aware that if he gets seriously involved with you what that would mean for you and your family?
That once engaged it has to be seen through to the end ? Some guys (ours too) do use girls by getting engaged and mucking them about.
That marriage in our culture is seen as a one-time only deal?
Are you prepared to let him go if asked to by your folks ?
Are you prepared to tell your folks properly about him and introduce him?
Is he prepared to go through that 'trial' of physical meeting with your parents? If he tells you to elope , my advice is break ties then and there and if you feel like running away it's never going to work . it has be based on the truth to be worth something.
I would suggest doing an Ardas for Guru ji who knows what is in our best interests to make a decision one way or the other quickly and carried on with your normal life - I did this and left the rest to Guru ji it went towards marriage. My friend who was Muslim had a similar situation a few years later asked me for advice I told to do the same and within two weeks the white guy peeled off by himself ... so she got her answer, she now is happily married to someone her parents and she had known from before through friends and has two wonderful sons.
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I want to cut my hair
in GUPT FORUM
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Mate kiton da sardaar Mooli di khet di ? avdi Guru da Bakshia taj sitt ke kud nu Nigurey bhekari saabat kita .
I can only guess what kind of girl came with that ... sorry for your loss-es