MisterrSingh

On 6/19/2019 at 4:50 AM, BhForce said:

Never heard of "Fateh Doe" before this. Why in the world would a man name himself after a female deer (doe)? The lack of masculinity of our Panth just astounds me.

The 'doe' is not a reference to a female deer. It's the street / urban slang equivalent of the word "though" pronounced "dough." It's a suffix used by certain younger generations for emphasis to underline an expression, phrase, or statement. In this context "Fateh Doe" is possibly referring to a fusion of the disparate Sikh and Urban identities the guy feels connected to. You gotta get down with kids, lol. If you can't understand their language, no matter how obtuse and fragmented, you can't make a connection.

That's life under Communism. The only "God" is the State. They can't be having a divine power that's superior to the Party. 

3 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

This needs to be verified but if this true:

https://www.christianpost.com/news/ontario-passes-law-government-seize-children-parents-oppose-gender-transition.html

Canada is f****

I read about this a few months ago. Apparently, the lawmakers seem to be focusing on the families of Christians. This kind of rubbish plays into the hands of the apocalyptic Christian sects who believe the Final Days and the subsequent Second Coming of Christ will be heralded by the subjugation of Christians and their beliefs. 

1 hour ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

and how do you know mein kampf was not a deliberate lie by hitler to gather sympathy from others ?

Read it yourself and decide. Most of his writing is undisputable historical context to his later actions that can be verified by the history books; the remainder is how his controversial interpretation of history informed his actions.

If you're afraid you may agree with at least half of an idea of his, I find that's where the fear to broach the subject originates. Don't be a coward. Read it. It also helps to have a brief overview of the social and political context of Europe and Germany at the time else most of the work will seem rather abstract.

14 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

I'm not hiding behind anything,  look feel free to think what you like, you seem to be full of yourself and ego to be honest.

I talk straight. There's nothing egoistical about that. The friction arises from the perturbation it causes on your end. 

21 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Im not Waheguru  i have no say in the matter,  however i would follow what Guru Nanak Ji did.

You're hiding behind something not because you truly believe in its integrity or its truth, but because it's the path of least resistance that allows you to feel as if you've committed an act of holiness. It's non-participation; a cop-out. You aren't Waheguru, and you certainly aren't Guru Nanak Dev Ji, either... as if there's a difference, which there isn't.

57 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Just got my info pack from Atam Academy , apparently even there the kids will be introduced to Alphabeties and their rights...how about this citizen rights then sikhi attitude to that then just tag on of course alphabeties are also part of society and therefore have same right BUS GALL KHATAM

What did I say previously? Herds and sheep. 

3 hours ago, Redoptics said:

I think the point is anyone can reform,  however that means leaving you past and move forward. 

Some can never reform themselves, and don't have any intention to do so. 

5 hours ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

Ofc this is farfetched. But i dont see any other solution. Unless we join in the anti Muslim anti immigrants policies in our current countries. But this has the danger of backlashing onto usAnd toadying up to racists is degrading.  And really hard to get support of all the liberal sikhs.

 

Lots of great points but this in particular I feel is valid. There needs to be a middle path that acknowledges the myriad dangers ahead if we are to align ourselves with suicidal social and political policies spearheaded by the ruling classes. The answer is not in aligning ourselves with the racists, the homophobes, or whatever else. The answer also doesn't reside on the side of those who wish to structure society according to their deluded worldview of so-called tolerance of the intolerable (whereby the definitions of what's "good" seems to shift further and further beyond the realms of acceptability).

But Sikhs in the West are mentally weak. The susceptibility to what's popular and pleading to one's biases (which are ironically a result of social programming from childhood) and what happens to be the prevailing mood of like-minded people, will always win out over the difficult path of striking out on a fresh path that rejects the current status quo of both sides. Sikhs are incapable of overcoming their herd programming which is further confounded by the emotion based indoctrination of our host countries. Our "follower" mentality will prove to be our downfall in these foreign lands. Thankfully, those of us with nothing to lose are the ones most likely to stumble across that third path. The rest are tied down by so many material and non-material binds that realisation and subsequent escape is a mental and physical impossibility. Adherence to religion of itself without a constant conscious driving desire of external discovery and self realisation is a hollow pursuit. Simply believing in something isn't enough. One must also exist in pursuit of constantly actualising those tenets in practical ways.

There's another great quote from Tzu (I'm guessing it's from the same book) which states, "When your enemy / opponent is in the middle of making a grave mistake, don't interrupt him." I've always loved this line. 

23 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

It's very sad to be manipulated like that, used as a guinea pig for a social experiment. 

The Decline and the Fall of the Roman Empire is a great multi volume work to read in order to understand what we're going through and what's yet to come. It's one of the classic works they teach to the posh kids at private school. 

6 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

By the tone of your post, can't say for sure if you actually mean it or it was a sarcastic attempt.lol

Srsly though, considering that a vast majority of our lot do the opposite in practice to what is taught in principle, it wouldn't be surprising at all if we're a manipulative lot

Haha, you got me, bro. I actually typed out something else but deleted it.

As for your second para, I've noticed we're great at screwing each other over, but when it comes to external enemies we suddenly develop a conscience and begin spouting religious sentiments, lol. What's that Punjabi saying: Ghar di billi kare miaow.

Waheguru. We aren't treacherous! We honourable Sikhs!

53 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

There does seem to be an agenda:

First accept homosexuality. 

Then accept transgenders. 

Now it seems paedophilia is being promoted by certain sections of the media.

This'll upset most of us on here, but it's an uncomfortable truth: the first one was, "Accept immigrants." To borrow a brilliant phrase that you coined a few years ago, we were the canaries down the mine, or at least our elders were when the West opened its doors to the Commonwealth nations for assistance in rebuilding Europe after the devastation of WW2. We were step one of the plan.

Again, it's a truth that might be cognitively devastating for some to accept -- it is slightly dehumanising in a way, and the last thing any advanced sentient being wants to acknowledge is they might be viewed as less (by others) than the image they hold of themselves in their own consciousness -- but it's one that must be acknowledged if we're to be honest and proceed with some brand of plan. Guess who campaigned and lobbied for third-world immigrants to be allowed into the White man's hallowed abode, lol? Guess who owned most of the sea-faring ships that brought over most of the Commonwealth workforce who eventually ended up settling here? They won't teach you any of this in schools or write articles about it on the BBC, lol.

We're as much pawns in this game as the homosexuals and other minority interest groups. We don't REALLY matter. We're just buffers, ultimately, and when there's a struggle or a battle, it's the buffers who are the first to feel the onslaught. 

If all we ever see is what's at the end of our collective nose, and the thought of what lays beyond is considered to be too terrifying a prospect to broach, then we'll continue going around in circles, afraid to confront those terrifying and taboo truths that we've deluded ourselves in believing don't exist or at least don't apply to us. Once we allow our thought processes and our conscience to be censored and controlled by someone, I truly believe there is no point to that person's humanity. That's a living death right there.

8 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

I have noticed homosexuals and Jews have been on this forum a  red herring here since sometime now

Never mind the Christians changing demography in Punjab and converting sikhs to xianity. 

Again, that's you seeing phenomena that isn't mentioned or even alluded to. Why are you stifling debate and discussion on these issues? How is a Mumbai dweller in such an insular part of the world so clued-up and concerned with issues such as European nationalism and the descent into degeneracy in Western lands? Christianity's attack on Dharmic traditions and Eastern mystical paths (including Sikhi) should be your area of expertise, or at least a subject that you should be bringing to our attention.

On 7/3/2019 at 6:47 PM, jkvlondon said:

Even Harinder didn't agree with him on that . Frankly Satpal twisted further than Harinder and used that misinterpretation to back his weird outlook. He's catering to future clients to sell his own brand of sikhi woowoo

In the coming years, in the West, there's going to be many Bhai Jagraj Singh imitators launching similar parchaar initiatives, the difference being Bhai Sahib was on the level whereas these newer personalities will aim to subvert and mislead. Sure, they'll all start out seemingly "on-message" and Gurmat oriented in order to develop a following and get their feet under the table, so to speak, but eventually they'll begin to sneak in corrosive, contemporary Western philosophies into their parchaar. The key question is will they operate of their own delusional volition, or will there be something more sinister and organised at play? Time will tell. The money trail never lies.

12 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think we need to be careful. If we are to grow, it will naturally entail nonPanjabis becoming Sikhs - I think it is dangerous to equate this to the issue you are referring to (which is an important, but a separate one). 

You quoted the wrong person. 

13 hours ago, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ

Although I don't agree with paedophilia, he does make a point that as Khalse we should stand up against oppression. So the main thing is that we shouldn't practice paedophilia but if someone else does we shouldn't hate them.

Do you see where this is going? 

3 hours ago, BhForce said:

Mixed Panj Piyare. It'll be like a diversity parade. Every Punj Piyare will have to have 3 "women" and 2 "men", 1 of them, of course, transitioned to something, or nothing.

1 of them African, 1 white, 1 Indian, 1 Pacific Islander, maybe 1 Punjabi.

In 2089 there'll be a clamour from the trans-human / cyborg population for representation in the Khalsa. There'll be anonymous posts in the Gupt section on this forum titled, "I accidentally used Synthetic Blend Motor Oil to grease my mechanical joints instead of using Vegetable Ghee. Do I need to go to pesh?"

Where will it end?!?

1 hour ago, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:

I don't think gay Anand Kaaraj will ever happen. It's clearly against Rehit Maryada and you can see that everyday people are coming into Sikhi and learning more and more especially the younger generation from Basics of Sikhi and all the other seva organisations so they are more aware about these topics and understand how to deal with them. However we should have more of these worldly discussions in the Gurdwara too so all Sangat what the Gurmat Perspective is.

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ

If Sikhs like Satpal Singh seize the reigns of mainstream Sikhi and repurpose it as a "progressive" vehicle for moral and spiritual relativism -- where anything goes because apparently everything is permissible under the guise of defending and promoting the intolerable -- then there's very little you or anyone can do to arrest those developments without being made to seem as an intolerant bigot on the wrong side of history. 

Believe it or not, decent and just things aren't guaranteed to happen for the Panth or Sikhs in general just because we wish it so. All those Sants and Mahapurakhs who apparently use to avert world wars or apocalyptic scenarios involving worldwide destruction by praying to Akal Purakh, better start cracking on with their bhagti, because there's a Bummageddon on the horizon, and I don't want to be caught with my kacherra down.

Media Sexploitation: The Hidden Implants in the Mass Media by Richard Zakia is an excellent book to understand this subject in a meticulous, logic / rational based manner. 

Ignore voices who serve to undermine any attempt to observe and note these occurrences. They want you to continue to labour under the shroud of ignorance; makes you easier to control so you continue stumbling around in a mental stupor where very little of life makes sense, therefore making you susceptible to all and everything directed at you for the purposes of keeping you asleep.

So, this Satpal Singh. What's going on with this gentleman? Who are his sponsors, associates, etc?

32 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

suggest me some baanis or meditation styles for improving concentration power 

A strong Nitnem routine does wonders. It focuses the mind and clarifies thoughts, although use your powers for good, haha. If you start working against the source of your newfound mental prowess and develop an arrogant mindset, as humans are prone to do once they attain a small increase in knowledge, you will find yourself back at square one. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. 

2 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

ughhh ! how do you observe in such fine detail.

Train your mind to quieten itself by eliminating or at least minimising superfluous thoughts that prey on it and send it racing in various directions. Solitude helps but I appreciate that's a luxury that's not available to most people.

Expect gay and transgender Anand Karaj ceremonies in the near future. No bundha with an ounce of awareness and anakh wants to be associated with a belief system that promotes this type of shite. Soon, Sikhi in the West will be populated by a gaggle of pink-turbanned, bearded, effeminate weirdos, and those who will object will be vilified as being un-Sikh and lacking Gurmat values. This is clown world.